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BRL-CAD: define __REG_NOCHAR so that we don't
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BRL-CAD: we're getting conflicting types on
re_comp() and re_exec() on bsd systems. we |
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BRL-CAD: don't use those functions though
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BRL-CAD: leave undeclared. really just needed
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BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r37452
10/brlcad/trunk/sh/tracker.sh: Updated to correctly export DATE
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01:31.20 |
``Erik |
heh, whoa, he committed something |
01:31.32 |
starseeker |
don't faint ;-) |
01:31.51 |
``Erik |
but if I do, then I can hit my head and have a
reason for not showing up tomorrie :D |
01:32.15 |
starseeker |
aw, but then you won't get to see my annoying
marching cubes email |
01:32.30 |
``Erik |
O.o |
01:32.44 |
``Erik |
dare I ask? |
01:33.21 |
starseeker |
probably asking stuff you've already though
about - octrees |
01:33.54 |
``Erik |
for marching cubes? you're probably talking
about an approach to the subdivision stuff I was talking
about... |
01:34.45 |
starseeker |
I think gqa could benefit from the application
of similar ideas, just using volumes rather than the marching cube
face logic |
01:35.03 |
``Erik |
but knowing when to subdivide would be a
trick, there's the risk of geometry passing through a 'cube'
without hitting a vertex of the cube, so the algorithm will assume
there's no geometry in it |
01:35.12 |
starseeker |
we do quad subdivision on nurbs, and octree
subdivision of volumes is the 3d version of that |
01:35.26 |
``Erik |
yes, I'm well familiar with quadtrees and
octrees |
01:35.34 |
starseeker |
I was talking with Ed about that
earlier |
01:35.39 |
starseeker |
have a couple ideas |
01:36.37 |
``Erik |
isn't sure it actually is a
benefit to g_qa, the locality thrashing may offset any meager
benefit |
01:36.50 |
starseeker |
depends on how dense a grid you fire |
01:37.26 |
``Erik |
you're basically guaranteeing a cache miss
every time with the current approach, I think... |
01:37.28 |
starseeker |
or rather, need to fire |
01:37.54 |
starseeker |
gqa's current approach? |
01:38.01 |
``Erik |
yeh, it hops all over the place |
01:38.07 |
starseeker |
mm |
01:38.30 |
``Erik |
and I'd imagine that most of the cost is cache
related anyways... *shrug* |
01:38.38 |
``Erik |
hit it with shark :D |
01:38.52 |
``Erik |
then redo it to just shoot a regular grid and
compare that |
01:39.04 |
starseeker |
well, if you're in tomorrow and have a few
minutes I'd like to outline what I'm thinking octree wise |
01:39.26 |
starseeker |
if nothing else, you get a chance to shoot
down one of my ideas and you know how much fun you have doing
that |
01:39.32 |
starseeker |
:P |
01:39.44 |
starseeker |
almost as good as making fun of me being stuck
in the mud |
01:39.51 |
Nohla |
holas |
01:40.16 |
starseeker |
hola :-) |
01:40.17 |
``Erik |
octrees even lost ground to kd-trees back when
cpu's were much slower *shrug* |
01:40.35 |
``Erik |
they were the rage for outdoor game crap way
back when, though |
01:40.43 |
starseeker |
nods |
01:40.43 |
``Erik |
um, along with ROAM for big terrains
heh |
01:41.10 |
``Erik |
then hoppe did his shtuff |
01:41.46 |
``Erik |
(yeah, I know... wtf, something good from
microsoft? obviously their research facility is on a different
planet hten their product development, corporate, legal, etc
stuff) |
01:41.56 |
starseeker |
has notice that
before |
01:42.07 |
``Erik |
VIPM was nifty at the time, though |
01:42.29 |
``Erik |
s/hten/than/ |
01:42.39 |
``Erik |
evening, nohla |
01:42.55 |
starseeker |
well, don't want to waste time if it's a
useless idea |
01:43.03 |
``Erik |
trapped like carrots, heh |
01:43.07 |
starseeker |
hopes he hasn't forced ``Erik
to explain it to Ed... |
01:43.22 |
Nohla |
``Erik good day, for the hole day :) |
01:43.53 |
``Erik |
well, it'll probably go something like...
<ed> so what's this cliff was saying about octrees?
<erik> that's the adaptive refinement we talked about.
<ed> ah |
01:44.10 |
starseeker |
heh |
01:45.16 |
``Erik |
unless this demo thingy puts me in a mood,
then I might say "heh, yeah, cliff found an ancient technique we
all ditched and is pretending to be a coder" :D *duck* |
01:45.58 |
starseeker |
sigh - I do feel like that on some
days |
01:46.13 |
``Erik |
hehehe, naw, just different background
:D |
01:46.26 |
``Erik |
you were doing... math... for fun... when I
was studying all the video game fu |
01:46.32 |
starseeker |
heh |
01:46.44 |
starseeker |
I just didn't have access to video games or
computers |
01:46.54 |
starseeker |
shudders to think how messed
up he would be if he had |
01:47.10 |
``Erik |
I mean, proofs instead of quaternions?
srsy? |
01:47.44 |
starseeker |
``Erik: so kd-trees were the successer to
octrees? |
01:48.06 |
``Erik |
they were the successor to b-trees |
01:48.27 |
starseeker |
ah |
01:48.46 |
``Erik |
but 3 kd-tree stages tended to be quicker than
a single octree stage for most video game crud |
01:49.09 |
``Erik |
and what's his name wrote articles about
portal/sector at about the same time, which was teh
awesomez |
01:49.20 |
``Erik |
h-something on, uh, gamedev.net? |
01:49.25 |
``Erik |
havok? |
01:49.32 |
starseeker |
oh, the Id guy? |
01:49.48 |
``Erik |
dunno |
01:50.04 |
``Erik |
shoot, what was the name of that site... black
background and orangish text |
01:50.14 |
starseeker |
are you using kd-trees for the marching cubes
stuff then? |
01:50.35 |
``Erik |
no |
01:50.52 |
``Erik |
first version is going to be regular grid
walked linearly |
01:51.05 |
``Erik |
I'm not sure subdivision approaches would be
acceptable :/ |
01:51.31 |
``Erik |
for the same reason the metaball ray "tracing"
is flakey |
01:51.55 |
starseeker |
missing small features? |
01:52.02 |
``Erik |
yeah |
01:52.21 |
starseeker |
my suggestion to Ed was to use the bounding
box hierarchy of the CSG primitives |
01:52.24 |
``Erik |
the 'small'ness of the feature is the size of
the first sample subdivision |
01:52.38 |
starseeker |
unlike metaballs, we have some extra
information we can use |
01:52.47 |
``Erik |
possibly |
01:53.05 |
``Erik |
but it's all irrelevant until I figure out how
to shove triangles into an nmg :D |
01:53.12 |
starseeker |
octree seemed to lend itself to
that... |
01:53.13 |
starseeker |
heh yeah |
01:53.22 |
starseeker |
that's wacky |
01:53.31 |
``Erik |
the schedule has a wad of time at the end for
exploring optimizations |
01:53.46 |
starseeker |
remembers being scared of
that early on - looks like I was right to fear ;-) |
01:53.50 |
``Erik |
no need for premature optimizations
:) |
01:57.00 |
``Erik |
heh /* implement me */ ... that
helps |
01:57.14 |
starseeker |
don't you love those? |
01:57.23 |
starseeker |
the tk libdm stuff has a few of thos |
01:57.28 |
starseeker |
those even |
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Nohla |
starseeker yesterday I couldnot
commit |
02:44.54 |
Nohla |
Is it work anyway? |
02:52.39 |
Nohla |
does it work :P |
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branco_ |
hello sean |
03:05.21 |
branco_ |
this irc thing is very unreliable ; i'll make
a sourceforge forum message about ubuntu 8.04 and brlcad 7.16.4 -
there I can write everything at once and no disconecting or posting
one on top of the other and clear history and not having to wait
for the answer |
03:13.08 |
louipc |
agreed |
03:14.08 |
louipc |
I prefer mailing lists though. I can operate
from the comfort of mutt. |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37453
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03:35.45 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: Fixed behavior of commands that
invoke an external editor - libged migration of |
03:35.45 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: logic resulted in some of the special
case logic for editors needing a |
03:35.45 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: controlling terminal being lost. Now
MGED generates the required information |
03:35.46 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: and sends it to the libged routine
that invokes the editor - in essence, MGED |
03:35.48 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: now tells libged how it wants the
editor invoked. |
03:41.24 |
branco_ |
ok so now it's posted on the forum - no more
irc for me |
03:41.29 |
Stattrav |
louipc: if the comfort of mutt == comfort of
using it from a command line. there exists irssi which is a non-gui
tool to access irc |
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03:45.46 |
``Erik |
heh, yet another one who's in both #brlcad and
#lisp, odd |
03:56.06 |
Stattrav |
``Erik: i am not good at lisp, i am a novice
:) |
03:56.20 |
Stattrav |
lisp n00b |
03:58.22 |
``Erik |
<-- is under the impression that you quit
being a lisp noob after ~20 years of coding in lisp...
maybe... |
03:58.44 |
Stattrav |
lol true :) |
03:59.40 |
Stattrav |
in december 2009 i met a person at a scipy
conference who has been a lisp user for around 30 years
now. |
04:00.06 |
Stattrav |
:s/user/programmer/ |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37454
10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g-egg.c: note location of file
format |
04:04.37 |
``Erik |
if scheme counts, I only have ten years
:( |
04:12.56 |
Stattrav |
it does i guess :) its a dialect |
04:45.42 |
starseeker |
kinda like - "Apple - successfully going out
of business for 20 years" it's "$Programmer - Lisp newbie for 10
years and counting." |
04:52.36 |
``Erik |
or bsd, dying since '73? |
04:53.03 |
``Erik |
77? |
05:02.17 |
``Erik |
heh, nifty, (apply #'lcm (loop for i from 1 to
10 collect i)) |
05:02.28 |
``Erik |
2520 ftw |
05:02.40 |
``Erik |
DAMN colbert report for making me
code |
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Open Source Solid Modeling || http://brlcad.org || http://sf.net/projects/brlcad
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BRL-CAD: 03indianlarry * r37455
10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ (4 files): Just update to copyright
dates, somehow got skipped. |
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BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r37456
10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/editit.c: added the missing buffer for
the MS Windows version |
12:58.20 |
``Erik |
indianlarry: copyright update is a
search/replace script, the conv/step files might not be in the
'right' format for the script to see? |
13:00.18 |
brlcad |
yep |
13:00.29 |
brlcad |
DimensionalExponented States
Government |
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brlcad |
DimensionalExponentsed States
Government |
13:00.46 |
brlcad |
someone had fun with a search n
replace |
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brlcad |
the script doesn't think they're ours to mess
with |
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brlcad |
DerivedUnitElemented States
Government |
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Stattrav |
hey brlcad |
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Stattrav |
hey Sean |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37457
10/brlcad/trunk/doc/deprecation.txt: names not set in stone, still
need to think about them some more but the rt timers need to become
bu timers |
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brlcad |
hello Stattrav |
14:32.01 |
brlcad |
i'm on and off today, so there will be reply
lag ;) |
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``Erik |
swank, full build on fbsd now, that regex fix
did it, it'd seem |
20:58.40 |
brlcad |
cool |
20:58.42 |
brlcad |
even 9? |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37458
10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/nastran-g.c: ws indent style
cleanup |
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BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37459
10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/viewpoint-g.c: ws indent style
cleanup |
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``Erik |
my 9 box isn't responding |
21:05.36 |
``Erik |
it may be at a bios 'push f1 to continue'
screen, I'd been dorking with it remotely, forgot to look on my way
out the door this morning, had other crap on my mind |
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branco |
hello - again with the ubuntu problem - noone
answered on the forum so mabe you have more time now ? - brl-cad is
not high priority for me so I don't mind if I get no answer but I
kinda got mad about not being able to compile so I still didn't
give up completely on posting messages about my problem |
22:10.37 |
brlcad |
branco: I read your message, but just have
have been busy yesterday and today |
22:11.25 |
branco |
ok so if you will post a message in the forum
sometimes it's alright |
22:12.34 |
branco |
won't stay longer , bye |
22:13.23 |
brlcad |
bah |
22:15.11 |
``Erik |
should make all responses on the forum to him
a single word :> *duck* |
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alex_joni |
hit&run |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37460
10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/ (12 files in 11 dirs): |
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CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: Ugh. Quick and dirty stab at getting
tcl/tk and itcl/itk cvs versions building |
22:17.01 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: in BRL-CAD tree. Something not right
- tkhtml3 isn't happy - but build at least |
22:17.03 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: gets past those directories. Right
now it wants zlib subdir in tcl/compat - |
22:17.05 |
CIA-34 |
BRL-CAD: need to figure out how to remove the
requirement. |
22:50.35 |
brlcad |
he's a her |
22:51.26 |
``Erik |
it. |
22:52.29 |
``Erik |
:D |
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BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37461
10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tkhtml3/src/Makefile.am: Tweaks
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