IRC log for #brlcad on 20100129

00:01.34 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37462 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tkhtml3/src/Makefile.am: Whoops, wrong Makefile.am tweaks. Try again with tkhtml3.
00:28.32 Stattrav what is the problem with installation in ubuntu ? i did face some but the sole reason was the absence of some dev headers
00:28.47 Stattrav i dont remember what it was. it was 2 years ago
00:30.41 Stattrav *what they were actually
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02:46.41 ``Erik mwahahhaa
02:48.58 Nohla ``Erik evil laught?
02:49.27 louipc Stattrav: if you compile from source, it should all be there
02:50.17 louipc oh maybe opengl
02:52.55 ``Erik yes, maloeran is in town, I took him to the local microbrewery and made him drink the 'sampler' of different beers... he was feeling the effects quite a bit when I dropped him off at his hotel :)
02:53.01 ``Erik corrupting the youth and all, mwahahah
02:53.29 louipc sounds fun
02:53.49 ``Erik (he almost never drinks)
02:53.55 louipc how big is the sampler?
02:54.05 ``Erik um, 8 4oz glasses I think?
02:54.11 louipc hehe
02:54.24 ``Erik but he only drank a few, the darker beers were too robust for him
02:55.34 louipc any stouts?
02:56.40 ``Erik there was an imperial stout in it, I stolded it from him
02:57.42 louipc awe
02:57.44 ``Erik come to baltimore, louipc, I'll take ya there :D http://www.duclaw.com/
02:58.08 ``Erik he was more into the blond ale and amber ale... and kinda the lager... the dark ones skeered him
02:58.34 ``Erik filled two growlers while there, will be a fun weekend O.O
02:58.50 louipc that would be sweet. I'll definitely consider it
02:59.33 louipc haha
03:00.56 louipc i'm debating whether I should go to maryland deathfest or not
03:01.21 ``Erik if it's it sonar, it can't be THAT big
03:01.33 louipc I know a bunch of people that are going, and it's a great lineup
03:01.46 louipc yeap sonar
03:02.25 louipc it's biggest death metal fest in north america as far as I know
03:02.38 ``Erik I think that's where I saw, uh, raveonettes
03:04.53 ``Erik iirc, I took 1 pretty much all the way down into the area, and the local roads to the lot... was too skeered and took 83 up to 695 to get out
03:05.13 louipc heheh
03:05.44 ``Erik I must be old and uncool, I only recognize a couple bands on the roster
03:06.49 louipc I only know maybe 1/4 of them
03:07.23 louipc but it's definitely a niche genre
03:08.30 ``Erik I'd rather have stuff a little more laid back with some groove... y'know, clutch, CoC, etc
03:08.41 ``Erik AiC!!! :)
03:09.31 louipc hehe yeah
03:09.56 ``Erik plays harder stuff than he listens to usually :/
03:11.13 louipc It's nice to mix it up I think
04:06.36 Stattrav ``Erik: true clutch is awesome
04:08.02 Stattrav but for me there is nothing like the blues or southern rock/blues rock
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12:56.23 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37463 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/eto/eto.c: horay for multitasking productivity during seminars. rename rt_mk_ell() and rt_ell4() to static make_ellipse() and make_ellipse4() routines.
12:57.12 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37464 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/comb.c: ws cleanup
13:01.05 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37465 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (Makefile.am primitives/generic.c primitives/table.c tcl.c): refactor the 'generic' parsetab routines for form(), adjust(), make(), and get() renaming some from rt_parsetab prefix to all using rt_generic prefix and living in their own file. remove unnecessary declarations.
13:22.38 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37466 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/malloc.c: still need to figure out why windows reportedly crached on the pointer sanity zappo. expand comment.
13:24.14 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37467 10/brlcad/trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
13:24.14 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: remove the unimplemented and barely even stubbed binmime 'binary mime-type'
13:24.14 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: objects. the name sucks as they wouldn't necessarily even be binary, but
13:24.14 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: there's probably a better way to do mime-type style information regardless
13:24.16 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: (e.g., an attribute on 'u c' binunifs).
14:02.22 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37468 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (16 files): convert a slew of XXX comments to be FIXME, NOTE, and WTF labels.
14:02.32 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37469 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/ (38 files in 13 dirs): change a slew of XXX notes to FIXME, NOTE, and WTF, depending on the message. increase default tolerance to 0.0005 though needs improvement.
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14:04.00 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37470 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (7 files in 4 dirs): more XXX conversion to FIXME, NOTE, and WTF depending on the message.
14:22.41 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37471 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tkhtml3/src/Makefile.am: Need some tk stuff in the tkhtml3 build Makefile.am - not sure this is everything but it seems to build on gentoo.
14:23.38 starseeker heads in
15:58.07 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37472 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/move_all.c: Added a -f option to mvall for reading a mapping file.
16:06.11 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37473 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/bot_dump.c: Added ged_dbot_dump() for dumping the displayed bots and auxiliary data (i.e. arrows, lines and axes) to obj format.
16:23.19 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37474 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/utility1.c: Moved a few variable declarations to the beginning the their respective blocks.
16:40.52 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37475 10/brlcad/trunk/src/rt/ (view.c worker.c): Temporarily disallow lightmodel 8 on windows until there is time to find a windows equivalent function to getrusage().
16:44.49 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37476 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tcl/generic/regex.h: Pull in regex.h changes from trunk.
16:47.00 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37477 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tcl/generic/ (tcl.h tclBasic.c tclDecls.h tclInt.h tclStubInit.c tclZlib.c): The new Tcl zlib stuff isn't playing well with BRL-CAD libz - need a way to sort this out. For now, nuke it, but this isn't the correct long term approach.
16:47.44 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37478 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tcl/unix/ (Makefile.in configure.in): Oh yeah - get the build stuff for Tcl zlib
16:49.12 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37479 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/opennurbs/opennurbs.vcproj: Added move source files to the build.
16:49.22 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37480 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/incrTcl/ (11 files in 11 dirs): Clear out the incrTcl Makefile.in files replaced by Makefile.am - eventually will need to do a more careful review of all this but for now byebye.
16:51.50 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37481 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libanalyze/ (. libanalyze.vcproj): Added libanalyze.vcproj.
17:10.35 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37482 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/move_all.c: Minor change to the usage string.
17:37.41 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37483 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/ (147 files in 39 dirs): Sync dmtogl to r37480
18:00.29 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37484 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tkhtml3/ (Makefile.am TODO): Add TODO file for tkhtml3
18:14.16 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37485 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tk/generic/tkImgPNG.c: (log message trimmed)
18:14.19 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: Hack and slash the PNG support in Tk, which depends on the Zlib stuff removed
18:14.24 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: from Tcl earlier. It appears that the Tcl/Tk solution to the problem we
18:14.28 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: encountered earlier integrating tkpng was to also integrate zlib into Tcl, which
18:14.34 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: means that Tcl itself is now going to conflict with our libz. Earlier compiler
18:14.40 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: errors indicate that libtcl isn't going to be a suitable straight up linking
18:14.46 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: replacement, so there's a situation here. Hopefully it can function enough for
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18:36.06 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37486 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/bwish/main.c: Still need itcl.h when doing BWISH with the new versions, apparently...
19:30.52 starseeker uh oh
19:31.12 starseeker the new Tk uses tkImgPNG behind tkImgPhoto, apparently
19:31.29 starseeker so that'll have to be untangled before even any framebuffer tests can be done
19:31.32 starseeker mutter...
19:35.01 brlcad heh, so they're using what we were using?
19:36.14 starseeker well, what I tried to use with that tkpng thing
19:36.30 starseeker I didn't expect it to be in back of tkImgPhoto - I thought that would be lower level
19:37.00 starseeker but they hit the same problem, solved it by sucking in zlib, and complicated our lives
19:37.31 starseeker plus I can't start MGED - it's not finding tclStubsPtr in libitcl
19:37.36 starseeker growl...
19:38.31 starseeker was hoping to just use rt and check the refresh behavior on the Tk window, but no soap
19:39.34 starseeker wonders why the blippity blip they seem to have duplicated everything in the win subdirectory... almost wonder if I checked it out wrong somehow
19:41.50 brlcad sounds like you might be getting lost down a complexity pipeline with too much duct tape, needing to resolve one issue at a time to completion instead of bubblegumming to the next one :)
19:42.01 starseeker yeah
19:42.56 starseeker I wanted to just zero in on the one thing without doing a full "solve tcl/tk 8.6 integration" process, but now that that's out I'll have to go back and do it right
19:43.34 starseeker figures that the one thing that conflicts with our stuff would be the one thing I need to test
19:45.37 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37487 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/other/tcl/generic/tcl.h: We're using the result slot, apparently one of the tcl TIP recommendations discourges it... need to dig into this one too.
19:45.42 brlcad of course you could just install tcl/tk 8.6 and tell it to use system tcl/tk
19:46.31 starseeker I could, but I would still expect a conflict between the tcl and libz/zlib libraries unless there's some magic foo somewhere I'm missing
19:47.45 starseeker still, might be worth a shot
19:49.03 starseeker readily admits the 8.5 Makefile.am foo might not be mapping well to 8.6
19:51.57 ``Erik *snicker* http://gist.github.com/289467
19:56.25 brlcad heh
19:56.48 brlcad learned something new.. don't think I knew (or at least I forgot if I did) that python has lambda functions
20:06.14 ``Erik amusing, oreilly had a booth at pycon2009 and supposedly the first book they sold out of was 'real world haskell'
20:06.50 starseeker the impossible intrigues people ;-)
20:07.46 ``Erik heh, I had fun doing haskell back in school
20:08.03 ``Erik but sometimes I'd have to switch to scheme to get the program to complete in time...
21:06.32 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37488 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/mvall.xml: Updated to include a -f option and a sample mapping file.
21:07.06 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37489 10/brlcad/trunk/regress/repository.sh:
21:07.06 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: only look for source files in the src and include directories (so we avoid
21:07.06 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: walking down distcheck dirs and potentially other unknown locations), but even
21:07.06 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: more so, make sure it's a BRL-CAD file before we boldly claim it has a common.h
21:07.07 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: problem. look at the file header to make sure, which helps it skip the lexer
21:07.09 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: generated source files too (which will otherwise fail the common.h test as the
21:07.11 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: lexer adds it's own stuff to the top of the generated file).
21:15.43 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37490 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS:
21:15.45 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: bob implemented a -f option on the mvall command for renaming objects in a .g
21:15.47 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: file based on an input mapping file. this feature relates to sf feature request
21:15.49 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: #2827957 (Dynamic renaming of objects based on mapping tables) from butler (and
21:15.51 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: was a reiterated request by various target describers).
21:16.30 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37491 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/mvall.xml: Minor tweak to the "SEE ALSO" section.
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22:05.41 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37492 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO:
22:05.43 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: mapping file support was added to the mvall commands, so remove the todo option.
22:05.45 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: the idea to also add it to the 'mv' command is interesting, but not nearly as
22:05.47 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: pressing a need to keep the entry around for. instead of adding similar -f
22:05.49 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: options to other commands, a generic batch file command would be better as it'd
22:05.51 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: parallel the search command. it'd also be generalizable to arbitrary automatic
22:05.53 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: file-based processing.
22:31.54 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37493 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_tri_mc.c: pack faces/vertices into the shell
22:33.05 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37494 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball_tri.c: add some minor notes. Change return value to 0.
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22:37.12 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37495 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/move_all.c: Modified ged_move_all_file() to handle comments. It's expected that bu_argv_from_string() will handle arguments with spaces (i.e. "example arg with spaces").
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22:46.29 ``Erik hah http://brlcad.org/~erik/mc.png
22:46.39 ``Erik mebbe I should figure the orientation some :D
22:48.18 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37496 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/mvall.xml: Updated to reflect that comments are now allowed in the mapping file.
22:51.34 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37497 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: Fixed two misuses/typos of lsearch in the cmd method.
22:52.23 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37498 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/AttrGroupsDisplayUtility.tcl: Added exportToObj method.
22:56.39 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37499 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Updated the moveWrapper to bypass the ledger stuff if -f is specified.
22:57.35 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37500 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl: Added a method for dbot_dump.
22:59.01 brlcad bot_sync, bot_flip
22:59.26 brlcad "form bot" will show the parameters for a bot
23:00.10 brlcad get your_bot orient
23:00.18 brlcad put your_bot orient no
23:01.05 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37501 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: Added define for STDIN_FILENO.
23:01.31 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37502 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_tri_mc.c: cope with degredate triangles. calculate face information.
23:02.10 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r37504 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball_tri.c: move region generation into timed segment. attempt to fix normals.
23:02.12 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37503 10/brlcad/trunk/include/dm.h: Added more defines for FONT10 and FONT11.
23:03.20 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37505 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: Added a declaration for dbot_dump.
23:04.57 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37506 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/ (dm-ogl.c dm-wgl.c): Added more increments for automatic font size changes.
23:06.31 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37507 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/ged_obj.c: Added the dbot_dump command.
23:08.42 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37508 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libged/libged.vcproj: Added libanalyze.lib
23:09.21 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37509 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/brlcad/brlcad.sln: Added libanalyze
23:41.29 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37510 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO:
23:41.33 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: flesh out even more details on a batch command. show how it relates to search
23:41.37 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: and show how it could have really powerful stream processing capabilities of
23:41.41 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: awk, sed, and cut. becomes a way to pipe and invoke ged commands without a
23:41.45 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: shell.
23:45.19 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37511 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO:
23:45.19 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: keep a note to one day have a g-gcode exporter, with details on how to do so in
23:45.20 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: the manner that best preserves shapes without relying on point sampling or
23:45.20 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: tessellation. relates to sf request 1191316 and numerous requests from others
23:45.20 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: around the web (that presently go the g-stl or similar route).
23:54.16 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37512 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO:
23:54.16 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: richard implemented the 3-argument scaling factors for sca, so can remove the
23:54.16 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: todo item. also just noticed that this feature was recorded as sf tracker
23:54.16 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: #1206440 (suggestion for 'sca' command) from Karel Kulhavy ( clock3 ) -
23:54.20 CIA-34 BRL-CAD: 2005-05-22; so also closed request that out and let them know it's in 7.16.4.

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