IRC log for #brlcad on 20100309

00:02.05 ``Erik "is her name really Shih-Ting?"
00:02.16 ``Erik http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1934654 mmmm bacon
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00:56.45 brlcad mmmmmm, that does look good
00:57.41 brlcad made a similar sandwhich like that before, whole pound on one sandwhich
01:07.21 ``Erik heh, heart attack on a bun O.o
01:07.42 ``Erik how's the migration going?
01:24.35 starseeker brlcad: distcheck passes now
01:38.16 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37944 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS:
01:38.16 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: Bob improved the behavior of mged command line options when used in combination
01:38.16 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: - for example, a user feeding in the string 'mged -c -a X moss.g tops would have
01:38.16 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: had a window flash up, then exit and print the tops result - now it ignores the
01:38.16 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: attach option if a command is specified.
02:05.40 starseeker auuuugh. dm-tk fails in X mode on Mac, crashing in a while Tcl_DoOneEvent loop
02:06.59 ``Erik hehehe
02:07.15 ``Erik so that's what that distant 'pop' was
02:11.20 starseeker hopes like hell this doesn't mean more fork magic is called for in the libdm guts...
02:13.19 starseeker well, at least the fb is ok...
02:28.57 ``Erik heh, put a little more water in my aquarium, now my cats are flipping out watching it O.o they must remember when there was a fish in there (however briefly)
02:29.41 starseeker heh - I'll bet they do
02:30.41 ``Erik poor fish only lasted a week or so, been setting the tank, think it's about ready
02:30.48 ``Erik holding at 6.8pH
02:30.59 ``Erik good algae growth
02:34.02 starseeker poor fish indeed - I wiped out a few goldfish when I was a kid trying to keep them in New Mexico water
02:34.17 starseeker was rather upset at the time :-/
02:35.04 starseeker things were waaaay too fragile to stand our water
02:35.13 ``Erik goldfish are pretty robust O.o
02:35.33 ``Erik probably weren't using the right water treatments or something
02:35.36 starseeker well, we had calcium deposits on the fixtures
02:35.43 ``Erik or overfeeding 'em, they'll eat until they die :D
02:35.45 starseeker yeah, treating the water would have been good
02:36.13 ``Erik yeah, calcium isn't too bad, I usually use a pH decreaser and a heavy metal reactant
02:36.22 ``Erik and sometimes some stresscoat
02:36.43 ``Erik <-- likes pleco's, skinned egg laying fish need a slightly acidic water
02:37.07 starseeker has been occasionally tempted to try fish again, but I suspect with the new cat I'd find the whole works bowled over one day...
02:37.37 ``Erik get a larger aquarium with a sturdy top? :D
02:37.43 ``Erik I think this one is 80g
02:37.57 starseeker yeah, it'd have to be a big tank and a sturdy top
02:38.03 starseeker she's a bold sucker
02:38.20 ``Erik but a 10g with a good top would probably do... cats are strong, but 80 pounds is a lot
02:38.21 starseeker freaks out our other cat
02:38.43 ``Erik 80-100... depends on how heavy the glass is, how many rocks ya drop in it, ... :)
02:38.50 starseeker other problem is having it taken care of when we go somewhere - that's the real biggie
02:38.53 starseeker cats are bad enough
02:39.08 ``Erik I bought a 14 slot feeder for that
02:39.22 starseeker hmm
02:39.47 ``Erik http://pet.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pPETS-3758948dt.jpg
02:40.16 starseeker hah, cool
02:40.39 ``Erik takes a single AA battery
02:40.47 starseeker as long as it doesn't malfunction
02:41.01 ``Erik yeah... haven't had it malfunction yet
02:41.19 starseeker 'course, since ours eat dry food we could probably just get one of those top-loading things that spills into the bowl
02:41.28 starseeker water is trickier
02:41.32 ``Erik when I was leaving for a week at a time, I'd slap a fresh battery in
02:43.26 ``Erik when I get a fish in there, I imagine I'll have difficulty convincing the cats to stop staring O.o
02:43.33 starseeker hehe
02:43.42 starseeker well, that keeps 'em from bugging you
02:45.52 starseeker confound it, why does the Tk thing have to crash in the friggin DoEvent logic - only handled 14 events before crashing, while the Aqua version was into thousands without trouble
02:47.20 starseeker glances at the clock and realizes he needs to go home now...
02:49.48 ``Erik ohhhh, she's gonna whup you
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05:05.23 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37945 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob added mged's dedication panel to archer's about page.
05:14.37 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37946 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/mged.c: '-o' shouldn't be used by others so make it verbosely clear
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07:34.28 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37947 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: check for the __int8 type, which should only be available on windows (think cygwin)
07:39.01 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37948 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (common.h config_win.h): (log message trimmed)
07:39.01 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: move the stdint provisions out of our win32-specific private header into
07:39.01 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: common.h so that the stdint types can be guaranteed. the guarantee is necessary
07:39.01 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: if we're to utilize stdint types in our public API (which we're now doing). for
07:39.01 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: now, bundle all of the stdint types together, included with the assumptions for
07:39.01 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: detecting uintptr_t .. at least until it's obvious that a better solution is
07:39.02 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: needed. the defines may very well need some adjustments to work as a public
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11:53.40 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r37949 10/brlcad/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): made libgcv compile with MS Visual Studio (CMake build)
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13:54.37 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r37950 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: some defines were moved to common.h
13:56.50 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r37951 10/brlcad/trunk/include/common.h:
13:56.50 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: MS Visual Studio knows uintptr_t but no int8_t etc.
13:56.51 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: moved the test for _UINTPTR_T_DEFINED to the correct place
14:10.35 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37952 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/ (6 files in 2 dirs): fix headers, add footers, make formatting consistent. more work needed to get shared_ptr foo working cleanly.
14:11.53 brlcad that stuff doesn't even look close to compiling cleanly
14:17.49 ``Erik how's the machine migration going?
14:20.26 brlcad slowly
14:28.46 brlcad yesterday was one of those days where you work for hours and hours on one little thing, and don't quite get it working right
14:28.56 d-lo arg, I hate that.
14:31.28 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37953 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/: ignore loT files
14:44.30 ``Erik dang boy, addin' newlines to my thrash files
14:44.51 ``Erik at least I'm using g-egg as my mule instead of one of the libs :)
14:48.26 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37954 10/brlcad/trunk/include/common.h: make sure the stdint types are provided for C++ apps too, define __STDC_LIMIT_MACROS and include the old inttypes.h header in order to get intmax_t
14:49.29 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37955 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: don't worry about checking for the __int8 type, just key on some other win32 define in common.h header. presently, we key off of _I64_MIN.
14:54.30 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37956 10/brlcad/trunk/include/config_win.h: no longer testing for __int8
14:54.58 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37957 10/brlcad/trunk/include/common.h: oops, typo
14:55.15 ``Erik dang, beat me
15:01.11 ``Erik neat! http://paste.lisp.org/display/96164 (on rhel5)
15:04.34 brlcad those pregenerated lexeryaccers are nfg
15:06.25 starseeker brlcad: sorry :-/
15:06.33 ``Erik yeh, the original tarball fails on rhel5-64, too
15:08.44 starseeker my initial estimate was that it was impractical to get the lex/yacc stuff working on older versions of the tools, but perhaps that'll have to be done
15:09.58 ``Erik starseeker: in today? grumpys O.o
15:10.12 starseeker ``Erik: coming in, but probably not in time for lunch
15:10.20 ``Erik bah, you suck :D
15:10.31 starseeker has to start saving some $$ anyway...
15:11.20 ``Erik takes linux out of his build rotation *sigh*
15:11.41 starseeker ``Erik: I'm ok with disabling the obj stuff in the build until we figure out what to do
15:12.05 starseeker only other run-in I've had with lex/yacc was the step stuff
15:12.19 starseeker it took indianlarry to sort that out, and that wasn't as severe as this is
15:12.29 ``Erik *shrug* I could just, y'know, stop updating and focus on my mc crap in g-egg :)
15:12.39 starseeker heh
15:12.53 ``Erik I have a milestone to meet on friday anyways
15:13.04 starseeker steels himself for more Tk fun and heads in...
15:13.11 ``Erik ponders doing svn lock on g-egg.c O.o
15:14.12 brlcad starseeker: there is also lex/yacc foo in src/mged/points
15:15.39 starseeker brlcad: when I looked at it yesterday, Mike seemed to have made use of the reentrant and bison-bridge options
15:15.51 starseeker I'm not sure how fundamental those features are to his design
15:16.38 starseeker but neither the OSX default flex/bison nor the one on Redhat could handle it
15:16.39 brlcad sounds like something important to figure out, how tied it is to those options
15:16.52 starseeker was afraid of that
15:17.07 starseeker I'll give Mike a call when I get in
15:17.24 brlcad should be able to discern it from the code, it's not that much code
15:18.27 starseeker pulls an svn update to his local box...
15:18.36 brlcad could try to just remove that pure-parser decl, and see if the lib still works
15:18.57 starseeker tried that yesterday, iirc
15:19.05 brlcad (not just compiles, but works .. should have a minimal test case handy)
15:19.39 starseeker nods - he's got some test cases handy, I just hadn't integrated them - figured they'd go in as a tool level test for libgcv in regression...
15:31.53 ``Erik ponders doing svn lock on g-egg.c O.o
15:31.55 ``Erik woops
15:32.47 starseeker seems yylval is coming from reentrant and yyextra is coming from bison-bridge
15:36.48 starseeker will have to do some basic reading up on lex and yacc
15:36.55 starseeker really heads out this time
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16:08.45 ``Erik effin'... *sigh* half a wasted morning
16:12.36 louipc how's it going
17:05.29 brlcad keeps pushing for a better stdint fix before wandering
17:36.55 brlcad starseeker: is on_nurb.h still needed?
17:42.15 starseeker urm
17:42.18 starseeker checks...
17:44.17 starseeker doesn't look like it
17:44.23 starseeker nothing includes it
17:44.39 starseeker shall I nuke it?
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17:48.42 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37958 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (Makefile.am on_nurb.h): Doesn't look like we need on_nurb.h anymore.
17:55.10 starseeker has another idea about lex/yacc...
17:55.11 starseeker hmm
18:01.59 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37959 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (Makefile.am pstdint.h):
18:01.59 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: include paul hsieh's pstdint.h header file from
18:01.59 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: http://www.azillionmonkeys.com/qed/pstdint.h as a means to supply stdint types
18:01.59 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: for platforms (like windows) that do not supply it. using paul's instead of our
18:01.59 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: own fellow doug gwyn's work (available at
18:02.00 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: http://www.lysator.liu.se/c/q8/index.html) due to it's relative simplicity to
18:02.00 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: integrate.
18:07.11 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37960 10/brlcad/trunk/include/pstdint.h:
18:07.11 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: apply a variety of mods to make the header work on 10.4 32-bit ppc mac (gcc
18:07.11 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 4.0.0) including fixing some invalid preprocessor concatenation, and protecting
18:07.11 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: the header if it's included before/after the system stdint.h (so we don't get
18:07.11 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: type conflicts). reordered from low to high so that the smalled fitting matches
18:07.11 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: first.
18:20.30 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37961 10/brlcad/trunk/include/pstdint.h: quellage, make sure __STDC_VERSION__ is defined before looking at value
18:31.28 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37962 10/brlcad/trunk/include/common.h: simplify. use the new pstdint.h header instead of rolling our own tests. thusfar, only tested on mac 10.4 so consider it tentative and preliminary.
18:57.30 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37963 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/grid.c: Minor tweak of error string for grid's anchor subcommand.
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21:41.14 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r37964 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ (archer/Archer.tcl archer/ArcherCore.tcl lib/Ged.tcl): Expose the grid via the GUI in Archer.
21:54.17 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r37965 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/ (75 files): massive ws indent formatting consistency update. that's all of the util dir.
23:11.54 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37966 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkhtml3/ (. tclconfig/): Update svn:ignore for tkhtml3 dir
23:13.09 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37967 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tk/unix/: Update svn:ignore for tk dir
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23:25.23 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r37968 10/brlcad/trunk/ (9 files in 4 dirs):
23:25.23 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: Add an option to go with a static compile on the new libgcv obj files if the
23:25.24 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: flex installed version isn't new enough, and enable the lex logic if it is.
23:25.24 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: Uses Tim Toolan's AX_COMPARE_VERSION function. Should probably also check the
23:25.24 CIA-85 BRL-CAD: bison and m4 versions.
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