01:24.24 |
starseeker |
O.o Maxima was #14 on the top 20 list of
sourceforge active projects |
01:59.28 |
jack |
amazing, for such an old thing |
03:02.39 |
Ralith |
jack: you're saying this in the BRL-CAD
channel. |
03:06.12 |
``Erik |
heh, maxima has heritage going back to '68,
though |
03:06.22 |
``Erik |
BRL-CAD is '79 I think |
03:12.58 |
Ralith |
close enough >_> |
03:13.24 |
Ralith |
both are far beyond the typical abandonment
point set by commercial software |
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BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r38945
10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt: |
08:30.27 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: avoid the min and max macros via the
windows.h header file (it is a plague even on MS Windows) for the
C++ core interface |
08:30.27 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: they interfere with the std::min and
std::max templates from the algorithms header file |
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d-lo |
Merning! |
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jack |
Ralith: true that :) |
11:32.56 |
jack |
but i knew maxima has older roots |
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BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38946
10/rt^3/trunk/src/alf/CMakeLists.txt: Source files were listed
twice, causing cmake to complain. Removed duplication. |
12:34.23 |
jack |
is all of brl-cad using cmake meanwhile? no
more autofools? |
12:35.05 |
d-lo |
nope, I belkieve portions of the brlcad module
is wired to use cmake, but not the whole thing |
12:35.19 |
jack |
ok |
12:35.31 |
d-lo |
the rt3 module, however, was converted to
cmake a while back. |
12:35.42 |
jack |
:) |
12:36.23 |
jack |
no objections...a cmake setup is as patchable
as an autotools one ;) |
12:36.31 |
jack |
i'm only a packager |
12:36.43 |
d-lo |
..so a pack-man of sorts? ;) |
12:36.53 |
jack |
kinda, yeah |
12:37.35 |
jack |
want details? check http://pdb.finkproject.org/pdb/browse.php?maintainer=jackfink |
12:37.59 |
jack |
no preferences, i package pretty much
everything that comes along |
12:38.27 |
jack |
(and builds, d'oh) |
12:39.19 |
d-lo |
impressive :) |
12:39.48 |
jack |
not that impressive ;) i'm doing this for 3 or
4 years meanwhile |
12:40.19 |
jack |
stuff accumulates rather quickly, and more
than 50% of my packages are practically dead |
12:40.24 |
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BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38947
10/rt^3/trunk/cmake/rt3commons.cmake: Forgot the NonVerbose/Verbose
print logic for library projects. |
12:40.47 |
jack |
ortep3 is fortran code from the
80s... |
12:41.10 |
jack |
i kinda like to pick up such ancient jewels
;) |
12:41.46 |
d-lo |
nice :) |
12:41.54 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38948
10/rt^3/trunk/src/CMakeLists.txt: Remove /src/other deps from the
cmake build. Nothing builds in there anyways. |
12:42.20 |
jack |
as long as the gcc folks keep doing a good
gfortran, nothing gets lost |
12:49.04 |
jack |
i guess i could do a big cleanup when fink
decides to do a new tree (10.7? who knows) |
12:49.13 |
jack |
who needs all that kde3 crap |
12:49.25 |
d-lo |
lol |
12:50.13 |
jack |
all i do nowadays is occasionally check if
upstream did a kde4 version meanwhile |
13:16.45 |
``Erik |
I imagine people targeting kde3 appreciate
it... not everyone just wants the latest greatest for a connected
desktop... isn't kde3 popular with kiosk systems? |
13:23.22 |
jack |
maybe |
13:23.34 |
jack |
but who uses a mac for a kiosk
system... |
13:24.05 |
jack |
almost none of my kde3 things is suitable
anyway |
13:24.30 |
``Erik |
heh, my thought was more the developer coding
on the mac, then doing a linux build for the kiosk
*shrug* |
13:25.03 |
jack |
sure, the libs are all there |
13:25.13 |
jack |
none of them my doing |
13:25.43 |
``Erik |
aaanyways, that might be a reason for not
ditching kde3 from the repo just yet |
13:25.47 |
``Erik |
idle thought |
13:26.17 |
jack |
correct, but removing my kde3-using crap won't
hurt the core anyway |
13:27.00 |
``Erik |
still has gnome 1.4 on a
machine because he hasn't been arsed to port a critical app to
gnome 2.x |
13:27.27 |
``Erik |
(it survived from 0.30 to 1.4, but 2.0 changed
too much) |
13:28.03 |
jack |
wee |
13:28.10 |
jack |
which app is that? |
13:29.11 |
``Erik |
one I wrote O.o :) |
13:29.35 |
``Erik |
around 99 or 00, called 'gems' |
13:30.00 |
``Erik |
Jan 23, 2000 |
13:30.57 |
jack |
haha wow |
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BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38949 10/iBME/: Drop
old branch of rt3 |
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14:56.26 |
mafm |
hallo |
14:56.38 |
d-lo |
howdy! |
15:22.05 |
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BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38950
10/rt^3/trunk/cmake/rt3commons.cmake: Add some more print lines to
the verbose cmake setting. Fixed a logic error in the mocc-ing of
qt files. |
15:38.32 |
d-lo |
Linking Question: |
15:39.44 |
d-lo |
if Application C is dependent on libB, and
libB is dependent on libA, technically Application C depends on
libA, right? |
15:42.50 |
brlcad |
strictly speaking, it depends |
15:43.41 |
brlcad |
er, rather .. "it doesn't necessarily depend
on libA" -- it depends on how libB was linked, what platform you're
on, what linker you're using |
15:45.06 |
brlcad |
in general form, though, from a portability
arranagement, you will have to be aware of and concerned about any
subdependency of a library being used |
15:46.13 |
brlcad |
which is one of several reasons why external
dependencies *cannot* be just added without regard to their
maintainability and integratability |
15:46.51 |
brlcad |
particularly with managed dependencies, which
has been our project stance since inception |
15:48.57 |
d-lo |
'managed deps' == deps in our src
tree? |
15:50.01 |
brlcad |
not strictly speaking, it's more the position
that recipients of our software will not have to worry (at all)
about whatever dependencies we've chosen to utilize when
distributing (binary and source) releases |
15:50.17 |
d-lo |
gotcha |
15:51.16 |
brlcad |
making them go get and install things, or
requiring users preinstall things, or only working for package
management systems specific to a given platform, etc .. all passing
the buck off to the user |
15:51.54 |
brlcad |
bundling sources is just one relatively
straightforward way that keeps the effort in our hands and
responsibility |
15:52.23 |
mafm |
yeah, nuke those deps! |
15:52.36 |
mafm |
that way I can create the debian package
cleanly :P |
15:52.57 |
brlcad |
howdy mafm |
15:53.39 |
d-lo |
so should I (eventually) get eh qt source and
put it in rt3/src/other/ ? |
15:53.53 |
d-lo |
s/eh/the/ |
15:55.08 |
brlcad |
d-lo: interestingly relevant suggestion from
Strattav to use awesome as that wm has many of the usability and
interaction concepts I'd like to see realized in the third gen
geometry interface, much shown in the prototype video |
15:56.10 |
mafm |
btw brlcad, any news from the guys that we
sent the patches to? I haven't got any reply |
15:58.37 |
brlcad |
d-lo: eventually we should manage a version
somewhere, but it's noit necessary until it comes time to do
full-on post-beta public releases |
15:59.32 |
brlcad |
the idea is to not pass effort on to users --
passing it on to ourselves is fine |
15:59.42 |
d-lo |
brlcad: kk. I'd like to sit down with you
some time and get learneded in how to wire in an 'internal' deps
build system into rt3 existing build system. |
15:59.45 |
brlcad |
mafm: which patches? |
16:00.57 |
brlcad |
d-lo: becoming familiarized with brl-cad's
autoconf build and how it does things is probably best as most of
the concepts translate to cmake directly, the syntax and commands
just change |
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mafm |
the ones of libjama & co |
16:01.58 |
brlcad |
if you're needing help with the actual
syntax.. that's pretty much the work itself :) |
16:02.14 |
d-lo |
concepts :P |
16:03.20 |
d-lo |
what's the name of the tech that allows you to
run 2+ monitors off a single DVI port? |
16:03.29 |
d-lo |
aka tricks the computer into seeing one large
screen? |
16:03.48 |
brlcad |
xinerama? |
16:04.13 |
brlcad |
http://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/autotools/index.html |
16:04.19 |
d-lo |
was thinking hardware box |
16:04.22 |
brlcad |
that's a good place to start before
talking |
16:04.37 |
brlcad |
dvi switcher |
16:04.49 |
d-lo |
switcher! thats the bloody word. |
16:04.52 |
d-lo |
thanks |
16:18.50 |
d-lo |
nope, thats not the word I was looking for
after all :/ |
16:28.01 |
d-lo |
ah ha! so *thats* what the m4 files
are! |
16:28.13 |
d-lo |
*lightbulb turns on* |
16:29.54 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38951
10/rt^3/trunk/cmake/rt3commons.cmake: Forgot to remove some DEBUG
printing lines. |
16:42.11 |
d-lo |
``Erik: want it? http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=3218816 |
16:56.59 |
brlcad |
heh, first bid $150 .. totally
awesome |
16:57.31 |
d-lo |
that's what I was thinking :) pick up a 1/4
mil genny for $150..... plus transportation ;) |
16:57.54 |
d-lo |
"How to make the HOA mad" |
16:58.39 |
brlcad |
"where in the HOA does it say I can't have a
backup generator?" |
16:58.45 |
d-lo |
hahaha |
16:59.14 |
d-lo |
I figure I could easily sell my neighbors a
few KWH |
16:59.49 |
d-lo |
EcoTerrorismElectricCo |
16:59.56 |
d-lo |
Lancaster, PA |
17:03.43 |
brlcad |
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=3266028 |
17:04.17 |
d-lo |
aweome :) to bad no pictures
though! |
17:04.23 |
brlcad |
yeah |
17:04.38 |
d-lo |
But I suppose the imagination is the best part
lol |
17:04.54 |
d-lo |
I envision many practical jokes with that
thing. |
17:06.57 |
brlcad |
okay, something more practical for the
office...
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=3261898&convertTo=USD |
17:10.55 |
brlcad |
oh, bob was talking about buying one of these
just friday..
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=3266153&convertTo=USD |
17:10.57 |
d-lo |
mmmmmmmm dogs |
17:11.21 |
brlcad |
it's in MD, should show him |
17:13.19 |
brlcad |
hah, M35 lunch transport!
http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?id=3238896&convertTo=USD |
17:15.00 |
d-lo |
heh, that's down in Fort Meade :) |
17:15.01 |
d-lo |
nice |
17:15.18 |
d-lo |
hahaha, 28k on the odometer |
17:15.34 |
brlcad |
not too shabby :) |
17:15.49 |
d-lo |
i bet it was a brutal 28k though ;) |
17:15.50 |
brlcad |
imagines parallel parking
that bad boy outside his house |
17:16.05 |
d-lo |
hahahaha |
17:16.19 |
d-lo |
I bet you could fit elle (?) in the back,
easily |
17:16.33 |
brlcad |
hm! |
17:16.50 |
brlcad |
a mobile parking spot |
17:18.18 |
d-lo |
get a big o plow for it and be the hero of the
neighborhood! |
17:21.28 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r38952 10/rt^3/trunk/
(6 files in 2 dirs): Add a thread wrapper for GeometryService
objects. Made GeometryService.h and GeometryServiceDaemon.h public
headers. |
17:31.43 |
d-lo |
brlcad: do you care if I use QT classes in the
GeometryServiceTest code? |
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brlcad |
d-lo: doesn't particularly matter though
personally, I'd avoid it for sake of simple testing isolation until
it provided some specific significant benefit (which is hard to
envision) |
18:00.24 |
brlcad |
networking is the only thing that comes to
mind and even then I see more benefit out of making the protocol
libpkg-compatible given its simplicity |
18:00.39 |
brlcad |
test shouldn't need to be threaded |
18:00.52 |
brlcad |
certainly doesn't need a gui |
18:18.39 |
``Erik |
d-lo: "kvm switch"? |
18:38.39 |
``Erik |
heh, never drop the mic when lipsyncing
O.o |
20:15.50 |
``Erik |
*grouse* |
20:16.20 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38953
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtie/ (tie.c tie.h tie_define.h
tie_kdtree.c tie_kdtree.h): msvc pukes on variable arity macros, so
ugly things up by eliminating the TIE_FUNC macro and wedge TIE_VAL
in instead |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38954
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtie/tie_define.h: use typedef instead
of #define for tfloat |
20:58.12 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38955
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtie/tie_kdtree.c: casting
fixes |
21:23.55 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38956
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtie/tie.c: undef near and far on
windows, 8086-80286 style segments aren't quite...
relevant. |
21:25.23 |
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BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r38957
10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/obj-g_new.c: adding functions to support
direct to bot |
21:29.27 |
brlcad |
shakes his
head |
21:30.09 |
starseeker |
hmm? |
21:33.20 |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r38958
10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (3 files in 3 dirs): |
21:33.20 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: Updated Archer's shift-grips to match
the original as much as possible without |
21:33.20 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: conflicting with the current mouse
mode. Added support for constrained rotations |
21:33.20 |
CIA-73 |
BRL-CAD: and translations. The constrained
behaviors will always be in model coordinates. |
21:38.19 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38959
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (7 files in 3 dirs): split tienet
ugliness into it's own header. Will eventually be replaced with
libpkg. |
21:39.47 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38960
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/load_g.c: this has no need for
pthread.h. |
21:41.02 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38961
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/adrt.h: wrap stdint.h in
HAVE_STDINT_H |
21:47.33 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38962
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/camera.c: wrap pthread stuff in
HAVE_PTHREAD_H, defaulting to single threaded if not
defined. |
21:48.13 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38963
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/camera.c: sys/time.h is no
longer used here |
21:53.32 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38964
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/libtie/tie_struct.h: undef near and far on
win32 |
21:54.08 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38965
10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/ (camera.c camera.h): pthread
wrapping fixes |
22:04.38 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38966
10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/adrt/adrt.vcproj: update link
info |
22:10.05 |
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BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r38967
10/brlcad/trunk/include/bn.h: wrap mersenne twister functions in
BN_EXPORT and BU_EXTERN |
22:12.23 |
``Erik |
hrm |
22:13.30 |
``Erik |
I seem to have a libadrt.dll, but it's not
quite healthy O.o I'll but indianlarry about it tomorrow |
22:14.35 |
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BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r38968
10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl: Minor
cleanup. |
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23:13.33 |
brlcad |
starseeker: weiss manually creating BoTs
instead of using the nmg routine |
23:13.45 |
brlcad |
apparently failing to create valid
nmg |
23:14.07 |
brlcad |
or unable to figure out how to do so |
23:23.42 |
``Erik |
<-- has been pushing him to wrap it up and
just call what he has so far "done" |
23:26.20 |
``Erik |
it's kinda gotten rediculous, time to
re-assess and make new cards if other bits of that importer need
real attention :/ |
23:27.21 |
``Erik |
ls |