IRC log for #brlcad on 20100512

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02:04.44 juub starseeker: thanks for the link.
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10:28.38 d-lo Mernin all
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11:35.24 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39116 10/isst/trunk/ (configure.ac sdl/Makefile.am): add --with-agar instead of hard coding paths
11:39.13 ``Erik huh http://www.wolfire.com/humble/stats
11:40.27 d-lo what's that for?
11:41.31 d-lo wow, 1.1 mil in 7 days?
11:41.42 d-lo Now I really want to start an indie company!
12:00.53 ``Erik was 7 games as a big donation drive
12:01.08 ``Erik http://www.linuxgames.com/archives/15237
12:17.29 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39117 10/isst/trunk/sdl/ (event.c main.c): default to OpenGL context if possible.
12:22.19 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39118 10/isst/trunk/sdl/event.c: 0 key now looks back at geometry
12:24.00 juub wow, that's awesome ``Erik.
12:29.58 d-lo brlcad: just curious as to why QT was picked to pair up with Ogre and not CEGUI ?
12:30.20 juub O.o BRC-CAD is doing something with Ogre?
12:32.12 d-lo yeah, working on an eventual replacement for mged.
12:33.13 juub Interesting. Is there a place where I could read about it in detail? I'm just getting into BRL-CAD, and am still in the Introduction to MGED pdf (haven't gotten back to it in a few days).
12:33.31 starseeker that's not really an intro topic
12:33.49 juub Pardon?
12:33.53 starseeker I'd suggest finishing the intro pdf first
12:34.17 starseeker Qt+Ogre+BRL-CAD is rather... involved :-)
12:34.42 starseeker however, if you're curious, you can take a look here: http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Ralith
12:37.04 juub thanks
12:38.07 d-lo sneaky! Tofu == brlcad ... whodathunk?!
12:38.16 juub :)
12:39.19 starseeker juub: if your video player can handle it, you might take a look at this video to see the current state: http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/g3d.avi
12:39.50 juub wow, look at the humble page on wolfire.com (http://www.wolfire.com/humble), scroll down to the statistics, and switch to the "top" listing: $3333.33, $1337.0, do you think someone found an exploit, or were just that generous?
12:40.49 juub starseeker: will do. Is there any sound, or can I leave my headphones off?
12:40.54 starseeker no sound
12:41.53 juub "Blender camera" --- interesting! I was asking just the other day about the BRL-CAD consensus towards Blender.
12:42.07 starseeker that's just a camera mode
12:42.14 juub I figured
12:42.21 starseeker Blender is GPL, so it's not directly usable as code in BRL-CAD
12:42.29 starseeker and it's a slightly different problem domain
12:42.30 juub nods
12:42.35 brlcad mged "replacement" is totally the wrong way to think about the new gui, it's a comprehensive redesign of MGED's GUI plain and simple, not a replacement of MGED
12:42.35 starseeker but it's impressive software!
12:43.04 juub brlcad: will mged still exist without QT/Ogre?
12:43.07 juub starseeker: agreed
12:43.56 brlcad juub: it depends what you consider to be "mged", the interface or the front-end code or the back-end code, etc
12:44.00 ``Erik I d'no, I could see an open source weenie who made a fat wad in the 90's doing that kinda thing O.o
12:44.25 starseeker ``Erik: hmm?
12:44.47 juub starseeker: probably a response to my ponderance of the dollar amounts in the top contributors to the humble thing.
12:44.48 ``Erik (re juub's comment about the 'top' donators)
12:44.53 brlcad by the time we're done, they won't look at all the same but most of the same functionality and behaviors will be there, the libged and librt libraries are still doing the heavy lifting
12:45.05 brlcad ``Erik: that's a pretty nifty game site
12:45.32 starseeker ah. (the "1337" amount looks quite plausible as a geek donation...)
12:45.36 brlcad the games look pretty cool too, at least slick n shiny
12:45.42 ``Erik lugaru's merc repo seems slighly broken, many 0 length files :/
12:45.51 juub brlcad: you've never played world of goo?
12:46.09 ``Erik world of goo is a good one, some pretty clever puzzle work
12:46.16 ``Erik kinda reminded me of gish at first
12:46.18 starseeker juub: the work you see in the g3d video was primarily to do with integrating Qt INSIDE an Ogre window - that turns out to be not so simple
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12:47.09 d-lo brlcad: just curious as to why QT was picked to pair up with Ogre and not CEGUI ?
12:47.10 brlcad juub: I'm betting I've never played a lot of games
12:47.11 starseeker that's (obviously) not got much to do with how an actual CAD gui would look
12:47.17 juub starseeker: interesting. I don't have any experience with Ogre, other than installing it through my package manager, peeking at some of the examples (not compiling or running them, though), and bookmarking their documentation pages.
12:48.04 juub brlcad: no shame in that. I've only blayed world of goo briefly at a friend's house, on the Wii.
12:48.23 brlcad d-lo: cegui has a variety of issues that made it less than ideal, particularly for long term maintenance and integration
12:48.24 juub s/blayed/played/
12:48.34 brlcad juub: I don't feel shamed :)
12:48.38 d-lo ah, okie :)
12:48.41 juub Didn't think you did ;)
12:49.18 brlcad juub: there's more on the gui design at http://brlcad.org/design/gui/
12:49.22 d-lo Heh, I missed the closing of that xserve by 10 mins :(
12:49.28 brlcad ouch
12:49.37 ``Erik bummer
12:49.43 d-lo I know :/
12:49.52 starseeker d-lo: besides, if I ever convince the Ogre cmake stuff to play nice I'm going to be sorely tempted to try using the Ogitor code base to re-create Archer/MGED with Qt :-P
12:50.02 d-lo ut there are two quad Xeon power edge's up in Buffalo for $20 lol
12:50.32 d-lo starseeker: sounds like fun :)
12:51.15 starseeker I'm really hoping the various CMake build scripts just need more work to be more seamless, but so far the batting average for "working CMake build out-of-box" is pretty low
12:51.37 d-lo which ones are giving you fits?
12:53.46 brlcad d-lo: featurewise, cegui fails to deliver on scalabale widgets, does not have native look and feel as an option (nor even support the it as a theme), doesn't provide complex widget behaviors (copy-paste, drag n drop, spell checking, key bindings, etc), and has a limited window management model
12:53.53 brlcad that's at least some of the items that come to mind
12:54.21 brlcad it could be made to work (better than agar, for example), but it's require a lot of work
12:54.30 brlcad s/it's/it'd/
12:54.35 d-lo kk. Just curious since I've seen Ogre+CEGui paired up a lot.
12:54.50 brlcad you see them paired up a lot because ogre bundles them up by default is all
12:55.07 brlcad it's in their default build and demos
12:56.39 brlcad implementing http://brlcad.org/design/gui/ using cegui would be .. a little cumbersome
12:57.57 brlcad using Qt it'll still be a lot of work, but it's more manageable, particularly for delivering on customizable widgets that provide advanced native behaviors along with optional native appearance on certain elements
12:59.52 d-lo tbh, I'd like to jump on g3d as my next big task.
13:00.03 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39119 10/rt^3/trunk/ (include/NetPortal.h src/libNetwork/NetPortal.cxx): Minor logic fixes. Added in ability to set a NetMsgHandler and have the Portal forward the Message to the handler.
13:00.10 juub ideal operating environment... it seems like the design there is trying to replace the desktop...
13:00.39 juub brlcad: is that URL supposed to be an index browsed?
13:00.44 juub i.e. missing an index.html
13:01.23 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39120 10/rt^3/trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Add getter/setter for default message handler to be passed on to any generated Portals
13:01.25 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39121 10/isst/trunk/ (configure.ac sdl/main.c): conditionalize agar stuff
13:06.00 starseeker d-lo: I could make a list - not our code specifically, just a lot of open source projects
13:06.15 starseeker Most times I mix Ogre and CMake nothing good comes of it
13:06.19 starseeker hits the road
13:06.22 d-lo starseeker: swing by sometime today and we can chit chat
13:06.53 starseeker nods
13:06.55 starseeker will do
13:08.00 juub are those videos in the design/gui/ link made by brl-cad people?
13:08.47 d-lo heh, 'brlcad people' nice :) But, to answer the question, yes.
13:09.37 juub lol, what? What's wrong with brl-cad people?
13:09.39 d-lo sounds like a depeche mode song.
13:09.42 d-lo :)
13:10.06 juub Hmm, I'm a bit confused by the "final" video ... doesn't seem to specific to BRL-CAD.
13:16.11 brlcad d-lo: suggested reading, lots of good insights on design: http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-09-2003/jw-0905-toolbox.html
13:17.43 juub brlcad: hmm, so the info on that URL is just concepts for potential BRL-CAD design direction?
13:17.50 d-lo sassy, thanks!
13:18.02 juub er, "that" URL being the brlcad.org/design/gui/ link you provded earlier.
13:18.05 brlcad juub: it's not specific to brl-cad, it's specific to interation modalities, ways of contextualizing information, some layout concepts, and LOTS of usability concepts
13:18.42 brlcad those in turn are driving the design of the gui as they form the most important aspect of the gui interaction
13:19.26 brlcad particularly for devs implementing guis with little to no usability experience, there are a lot of concepts in that mock up
13:20.13 juub nods
13:20.24 brlcad following it for design of the new gui avoids a lot of major pitfalls and helps steer the development -- just replace 'page' with 'model'
13:20.39 juub Gotchya
13:21.07 juub Hmm, is the .org site running slowly for you too?
13:21.17 brlcad yeah, it's getting hit pretty heavy at the moment
13:30.32 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39122 10/rt^3/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Make INetMsgHandler a requirement to NetPortal and NetPortalManager. Removes need for handler setters. Pulled handler Getters until they are needed
13:33.58 juub What put Tcl/tk out of contention for building the gui (if anything)?
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13:40.51 brlcad juub: 15 years experience designing guis using tcl/tk ? :)
13:41.04 brlcad j/k, nothing in particular in terms of toolkit features
13:41.20 brlcad our next generation gui that predates the full redesign is still in tcl/tk
13:41.27 brlcad (archer)
13:41.47 brlcad that will take us forward for probably the next three years minimum
13:42.58 brlcad the biggest issue with tcl/tk is attracting open source developers that can get involved -- it's definitely a niche language with expertise hard to come by
13:45.51 juub brlcad: interesting, thanks. I'm just looking into linuxfromscratch, and it (well, "cross linux from scratch") utilizes something that relies on Tcl, which is why I asked about it. I've never done any GUI programming myself, (web stuff doesn't count), and have been wondering what might be some good options to familiarize myself with.
13:46.05 juub Tcl/tk is distinct from GTK, correct?
13:46.10 brlcad quite
13:46.29 juub I may be mistaken, but GTK strikes me as heavily gnome related.
13:46.41 brlcad we're still married to Tcl -- that won't likely change any time soon (if ever)
13:47.04 brlcad Tk is what is being replaced for widgets and input control
13:47.33 ``Erik gnome is built on top of GTK, just like kde is built on qt
13:47.34 juub I see. I'm only vaguely familiar with their distinction.
13:47.53 juub ``Erik: ah, thanks.
13:49.44 d-lo question: If we are housing external deps (that are not built by our build system) in /src/other, would it be acceptable to move them to a top level dir like /extDeps ?
13:50.06 d-lo I would think that ext deps that we do build with our build system should go in /src/other....
13:50.31 brlcad if they're not built, why are they there?
13:50.45 d-lo rt3's custom ogre install :/
13:50.54 brlcad or probably better, if they're there, why are they not being built
13:52.03 d-lo haven't wired them into cmake yet.
13:52.05 brlcad that's a case of incomplete effort then, it should be integrated and building it, jsut wasn't completed
13:52.48 brlcad not much point to "move it out of the way" as someone will just have to move it back
13:52.54 brlcad busy work
13:53.57 d-lo understood, just all those files in the other/ogre dir are making simple search/replaces not so simple. :)
13:54.28 brlcad -not -regex '.*src/other.*'
13:54.55 d-lo right, I just keep forgetting to do that lol
13:56.20 brlcad make yourself a search wrapper shell script that has it all set up
13:56.26 brlcad should be ignoring a lot more than src/other
13:56.54 d-lo you in about the same time as normal?
13:56.59 brlcad I use: -not -regex '.*src/other.*' -not -regex '.*~' -not -regex '.*\.log' -not -regex '.*Makefile.*' -not -regex '.*cache.*' -not -regex '.*\.svn.*'
13:57.30 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39123 10/rt^3/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Simplify NetMsgFactory some by removing its internal msg inbox. Factory now does just what the name implies: makes NetMsgs and passes them back if successful. Updated logic in NetPortal.
13:57.56 brlcad is there such a thing as normal time? I'll suppose I'll have to be even more random!
13:58.26 brlcad http://www.libregraphicsworld.org/news.php?readmore=348
13:58.36 brlcad nice summary of our changes, heh
14:00.11 brlcad sans various typos
14:19.36 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39124 10/rt^3/trunk/src/libNetwork/ (3 files): Drop NetMsgSubscriberRegistry. Is not currently needed and likely will not be needed. Gotta stay Agile!
14:28.46 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39125 10/rt^3/trunk/src/libNetwork/ (Gateway.cxx Gateway.h): Make a Gateway use an INetMsgHandler. Implemented listening and HostList getter.
14:38.23 d-lo brlcad: *more* random? heh, I'd be interested to see that! :P
14:52.22 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39126 10/rt^3/trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Create file dedicated to defining EventTypes. This will do until a dynamic EventType registration process is implemented.
15:07.42 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39127 10/rt^3/trunk/include/EventSubscriber.h: This class is no longer purely virtual, so remove the "= 0"
15:24.21 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39128 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (Archer.tcl ArcherCore.tcl): Update the primitive creation menu.
15:42.07 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39129 10/rt^3/trunk/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Replace much of QT's signal/slots system with libEvent calls. Remove NetPortalManager from QT's MOC list. Isolated all signal/slots in libNetwork to NetPortal<->QSocket interactions.
15:56.43 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39130 10/rt^3/trunk/ (15 files in 2 dirs): Create file dedicated to defining MsgTypes. This will do until a dynamic MsgType registration process is implemented.
16:00.34 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39131 10/rt^3/trunk/tests/libEvent/BasicEventTest.cxx: update include statements in event tests.
16:14.38 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39132 10/rt^3/trunk/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Cleaning up various linkage/include errors.
16:26.40 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39133 10/rt^3/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Drop GeometryServiceApp and Daemon. Based on QT design of having the exec loop at the application level. This has been abstracted back as far as possible (Gateway) until time permits removal all together.
16:27.51 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39134 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/gsmain.cxx: Forgot a file for commit r39133
16:31.09 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39135 10/rt^3/trunk/src/adminpanel/ (7 files): Remove unused classes in ACP.
16:33.42 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39136 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/ (ByteBag.cxx ByteBag.hpp): Drop ByteBag. Unused.
16:34.45 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39137 10/rt^3/trunk/src/GS/ (GeometryService.cxx gsmain.cxx): Comment out portions of GS for now. Once Gateway is finished/tested, the GeometryService class will need to be refactored.
16:39.30 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39138 10/rt^3/trunk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Headers: make Gateway public, NetMsgFactory and NetPortal private
16:40.21 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39139 10/rt^3/trunk/include/GeometryService.h: Forgot a file for commit r39137
17:13.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39140 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/ged_obj.c: Update the usage for new_view.
17:28.15 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39141 10/isst/trunk/sdl/ (event.c isst.h main.c myplugin.c): show how to pass values to plugin. use "z" to set the raytrace resolution to a fixed size
17:28.38 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39142 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl: Tweak the faceplate command to return possible results. Fixed a typo in the -centerDotEnable option.
17:41.07 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39143 10/isst/trunk/ (gtk/gui.c sdl/main.c): fix the offset error causing a sliver of geometry being shown on the wrong side of the context
17:49.15 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39144 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (Archer.tcl ArcherCore.tcl): Added a modes menu item for toggling display of the center dot.
17:49.36 brlcad egads
17:50.14 brlcad that seems a bit option-excessive to me -- it's either useful to have the dot or it's not .. maybe tie it to faceplate
17:50.44 brlcad maybe a command that toggles its display .. but not a menu
17:50.51 brlcad that's one of mged's biggest failings
17:52.28 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39145 10/isst/trunk/sdl/event.c: use SDL_GetTicks() instead of gettimeofday(). throttle FPS.
17:58.49 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39146 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob made updates to the primitive creation menu in archer, adding label images.
17:59.22 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39147 10/isst/trunk/sdl/ (event.c main.c): zoom level insanity.
18:10.03 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39148 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob fixed a bug that snuck in as a last minute ill-tested release patch to the bot_split command. it was failing due to not checking whether a bot was plate mode before setting the plate thickness and face mode bits.
18:10.52 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39149 10/brlcad/branches/STABLE/NEWS: let's not mention the red command.
18:10.55 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39150 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: let's not mention the red command
18:14.42 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39151 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: need to remove the deprecated old attribute names and make sure we're not still using them ourselves. doc/docbook/system/man5/en/attributes.xml has a list (though there may be more).
18:23.06 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39152 10/isst/trunk/sdl/main.c: sane aspect ratio handling for downsampled raytracing
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18:39.48 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39153 10/rt^3/trunk/ (36 files in 2 dirs): Made NetMsg purely virtual. Introduced TypeOnlyMsg, cascaded changes throughout NetMsgFactory. Standardized NetMsg subclass constructors, destructors, _equals, and _serialize functions.
18:59.54 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39154 10/rt^3/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Implement the equality operator. Wire it into existing NetMsg::equals(...)
19:03.21 brlcad likes all the commits
19:06.23 starseeker is sorry the tarballs went out with the red command item...
19:09.22 starseeker is anybody else still getting the ggdb3 flag when building on the mac?
19:09.41 starseeker looks at bc_mac_opt_flag...
19:19.35 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39155 10/rt^3/trunk/tests/libNetwork/: Modified SVN:IGNORE to ignore *.backup files.
19:21.27 ``Erik whupz, had --disable-optimized on for all that stuff O.O
19:23.38 starseeker hrm - fast SHOULD work...
19:23.53 starseeker why doesn't it...
19:25.00 brlcad aliasing
19:25.13 brlcad feel free to fix it ;)
19:25.24 starseeker aliasing?
19:25.44 starseeker hacked around it with case $host_os, but doubts brlcad would like that approach...
19:28.51 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39156 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: Use for the moment on the debug_flag, until the mac_opt_flag test is fixed.
19:29.08 starseeker just so it's an easy revert and I don't accidently commit it...
19:35.21 brlcad oh, I misunderstood your question to be why -fast doesn't work on our code
19:35.30 starseeker ah :-)
19:35.42 brlcad that -fast test should work
19:35.48 brlcad did you look at the log?
19:36.04 starseeker erm
19:36.09 starseeker should do that...
19:36.13 brlcad it was done in leu of host_os as a feature test
19:36.28 brlcad should always read the log when something fails unexpected :P .. thats why it's there
19:36.45 starseeker heh - it was just a distraction at the time - was focused on something else...
19:36.52 starseeker regenerates the log
19:41.19 starseeker http://pastebin.org/226900
19:42.12 brlcad so it worked
19:42.32 starseeker but it went on to check and set ggdb3 anyway
19:44.02 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39157 10/rt^3/trunk/tests/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Remove code deprecated by todays changes so we can get the tests compiling again.
19:46.20 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03davidloman * r39158 10/rt^3/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Make NetMsgFactory public again so it can be easily tested. To make this private again, the tests will have to be stored in the same dir as the source/headers
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20:19.28 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39159 10/brlcad/trunk/src/ (libtclcad/ged_obj.c tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl): Changed tick_enabled to tick_enable for consistency. Similar changes in Ged.tcl
20:23.27 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39160 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: -modelAxesTickEnabled changed to -modelAxesTickEnable for consistency
20:24.51 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39161 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/ (ModelAxesControl.tcl ViewAxesControl.tcl): Mods to get the axes control panels working with the Ged widget.
21:21.05 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39162 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/ (5 files in 5 dirs): BRL-CAD, not BRLCAD. identity consistency.
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21:57.12 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r39163 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/obj-g_new.c: adding functions to test for surface closure outside nmg creation functions
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