IRC log for #brlcad on 20100514

00:43.17 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39203 10/brlcad/trunk/src/Makefile.am: Tweak - doesn't matter much now, but eventually someone may use a system togl
00:59.51 starseeker erahum. when running the build from the beginning with gmake, it worked??
01:01.13 starseeker ``Erik: BSD has a personality
01:16.22 ``Erik chock full of straight-up awesome, yo
01:16.44 starseeker scribbles note to self - "mixing makes bad"
01:43.11 starseeker Hmm. "couldn't choose pixel format"
01:43.18 starseeker close though
01:45.00 starseeker wonders if it doesn't like the remote display thing
01:45.37 juub starseeker: are you Ralith, or are you just continuing Ralith's work?
01:46.07 starseeker not Ralith - I'm a BRL-CAD dev. Not specifically continuing his work, although it is of interest
01:46.17 juub k
01:46.28 juub is Ralith not a BRL-CAD dev?
01:46.44 starseeker he did a gsoc project - he's not a regular deve
01:46.47 starseeker developer
01:46.47 juub I guess BRL-CAD has official developers, and then "contributers"...
01:47.00 starseeker based on who codes
01:47.15 starseeker brlcad: distcheck passed
01:47.48 brlcad great
01:48.10 brlcad juub: Ralith is an "official developer" .. he's just been around very much lately
01:48.36 brlcad open sources devs come and go, as do their particular projects and focus
01:49.14 brlcad his work is pretty central to what we're doing, though -- we're progressing in that direction, just in different portions of the codebase
01:52.52 starseeker ``Erik: togl is in the freebsd ports collection, so presumably it does work... maybe there's some quirk in togl 2
01:53.18 juub "open sources devs come and go, as do their particular projects and focus" --- yup, that's what I love about FOSS; so long as there is interest in a project, it will never die.
01:55.26 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39204 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: Whoops, stray space
01:55.48 starseeker now that it's off, let's see if it can be turned on again...
02:03.13 starseeker ``Erik: yeah, I don't think that failure is togl specific - I can attach an ogl dm in mged -c either
02:04.02 starseeker er can't rather
02:09.10 Ralith waves idly
02:09.17 juub o/
02:09.28 Ralith juub: I'll probably get some more hacking in on g3d at some point
02:09.29 juub Guess I should have issued /names before the inquery, huh?
02:09.46 Ralith but right now my time's pretty consumed by other things
02:10.13 juub Ralith: no worries, I was wondering because starseeker pointed me to your page earlier, and starseeker seems to have been working on g3d lately, which made me think you might be one in the same.
02:10.26 Ralith 'kay
02:10.40 juub Ralith: I fully understand. I'm involved with a FOSS project myself, and my participation in it has been nearly nullified by a business I'm starting.
02:11.05 juub Hopefully BRL-CAD will be playing an integral role in the business. :)
02:11.53 Ralith cool!
02:11.58 Ralith what're you doing?
02:14.11 juub Another tactical first person shooter.
02:14.42 juub www.code43.net if you're interested. It's a very frustrating experience due to how we're structured (developer wise) --- technically speaking, no one person is incharge. =\
02:14.53 juub Oh, sorry.
02:15.01 juub You were probably asking about the business rather than the FOSS >_<
02:15.16 juub My version of: http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/edison/default.asp#lab
02:15.38 juub *in charge
02:25.26 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39205 10/brlcad/trunk/src/Makefile.am: Er, when defining a variable, it helps to actually use it right...
02:28.10 juub Meh, maybe that wasn't very clear. code43 is the FOSS project, and the hfmgv link is very similar to the business I'm starting.
02:29.16 starseeker nods
02:38.40 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39206 10/brlcad/trunk/ (configure.ac src/Makefile.am): Hmm - WITH_TOGL isn't working as it should - use BUILD_TOGL for now - that logic will need revisiting in the future anyway.
02:52.54 starseeker ok... can be turned on and off, check. re-confirming distcheck, check
02:53.22 starseeker does work locally on Mac and Linux, compiles (apparently) with clean gmake build on FreeBSD
02:53.53 starseeker (must test FreeBSD more...)
02:54.57 juub Isn't that what ``Erik is for?
02:55.43 starseeker heh - he'll get crabby if he has to fix the togl make logic all by himself - I'll get at least a week of FreeBSD >>>> Linux comments
02:56.11 starseeker (as in FreeBSD much better than Linux)
02:57.05 starseeker the real question mark will be tomorrow - converting the gear demo into something more interesting
02:57.15 starseeker packs it in for tonight
02:57.33 juub sleep well
03:05.32 juub sighs, "Patents are so expensive." :(
03:06.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39207 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_io.c: type quelling
03:11.52 starseeker hmm... "car hits utility pole, takes out Datacenter"
03:12.48 starseeker that's a bad day
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03:13.50 juub hah! indeed. I thought you were sleeping ;)
03:14.16 juub I guess that explains why my innertubes were deflated the other day.
03:16.03 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39208 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_scan.c: db_put() returns a size_t, assert its range before returning it.
03:16.27 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39209 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_tree.c: use full sigs, dequell magic clobberage.
03:17.05 starseeker juub: had to make sure distcheck passed again after the configure.ac change
03:17.17 starseeker just finished, we're good, I'm outta here
03:17.28 juub adios
03:21.49 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39210 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_io.c: semi-oops
03:27.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39211 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/opennurbs_ext.h src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp):
03:27.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: remove the using namespace std declaraction in order to make the code explicit
03:27.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: as to which routines are being called and to not pollute the global namespace
03:27.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: (among other reasons) . particularly to disambiguate min/max/list as was being
03:27.11 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: used (e.g. getHVTangents()'s use of 'list' as a var name)
03:49.58 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39212 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: stash the quiet flag value into a variable so we can quell warnings about the expression evaluating to a constant when the macro param itself is a constant.
03:50.24 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39213 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: extern declaration for win32 linkage decls
03:51.08 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39214 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_alloc.c: don't return a cast negative given it is supposed to return a size.
04:39.48 starseeker 39213 breaks on gentoo
04:40.05 starseeker opennurbs_ext.cpp:60: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion before ‘int’
04:41.48 starseeker http://pastebin.org/234079
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07:59.10 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39215 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/brep/ (brep.cpp brep_debug.cpp): added std namespace tag where necessary
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08:35.03 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39216 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/ (opennurbs_ext.cpp primitives/brep/brep.cpp):
08:35.03 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: renamed getSurfacePoint() in global namespace to brep_getSurfacePoint() to avoid name-collision with brlcad::SurfaceTree::getSurfacePoint()
08:35.03 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: corrected the declaration as external
09:11.19 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39217 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/opennurbs_ext.cpp: the BU_EXTERN macro has no effect here, therefore removed it
09:33.37 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39218 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/brep/brep.cpp: added some more std namespace tags
12:17.47 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39219 10/brlcad/trunk/include/brep.h: include bio.h before opennurbs.h to avoid problems with the windows.h include there
12:34.27 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39220 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt: the NOMINMAX define is not necessary any more
12:57.51 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39221 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/pipetest.c: renamed pipe variables because of a conflict with unistd.h's pipe2()
13:16.31 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39222 10/rt^3/trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs): C++ interface to the ehy primitive (elliptical hyperboloid)
13:19.26 brlcad woot
13:40.10 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03d_rossberg * r39223 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt: include C++ interface to elliptical hyperboloid (Hyperboloid, ehy) primitive
15:12.06 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39224 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/gears.tcl: Strip down the tcl code of gears some, make it use bwish.
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16:09.56 psilva_ hiyo
16:10.58 psilva_ anyone know of any good oss irc clients for windows?
16:23.17 packrat there are binaries of irssi for windows
16:25.12 psilva_ heh shipping lanes
16:34.29 *** join/#brlcad psilva_ (~psilva@static-96-255-52-7.washdc.fios.verizon.net)
16:35.04 psilva_ interesting
16:35.49 psilva_ never used a cmdline client
16:36.37 packrat welcome to the world of foss products
16:37.09 psilva_ should make a .net frontend for this
16:38.33 packrat lol
16:39.32 psilva_ at least the docs are comprehensive
16:39.43 psilva_ better than most foss projects
16:56.14 louipc xchat runs on windows
17:33.34 ``Erik probably go to freshmeat.net and use the filter stuff to find a pretty good set of projects for that
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17:35.39 mafm hallo
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17:45.07 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39225 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/images/ (6 files): Add icon for part primitive.
18:03.49 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39226 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/gears.tcl: Whoops, chopped too much.
18:06.22 ``Erik http://dlmf.nist.gov/
18:12.32 louipc isn't isst in a different repo?
18:13.18 psilva_ xchat is commercial on windows
18:13.29 psilva_ free on other systems
18:13.39 louipc ah
18:28.30 psilva_ itd be nice if digsby had irc support
18:28.42 psilva_ then i wont need seperate apps
18:28.56 psilva_ i suppose trillian works, but it just seems bloated nowadays
18:29.41 psilva_ digsby works nicely, although the fact that it locks up when visual studio hits a breakpoint pisses me off sometimes
18:31.51 ``Erik louipc: the gtk and sdl frontends are, the backend (and all the real work) has been in BRL-CAD as adrt, we're working on making a tcl/tk interface to have a frontend included with the BRL-CAD distro
18:33.55 brlcad hey prasad, how goes it
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19:15.00 louipc hehe
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19:59.59 ``Erik dangit
20:09.46 psilva_ brlcad: hey man
20:09.49 psilva_ crazy busy
20:25.07 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39227 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/ (Makefile.am gears.tcl isst.h isst_tcltk.c): Code working towards isst visual in togl window.
20:29.17 brlcad finally got that all undone, whew
20:30.38 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39228 10/brlcad/trunk/ (11 files in 4 dirs): revert some of the size_t promotions that were wrong/unnecessary for db_put, db_alloc, db_delete, and db_zapper. their return type is int with good reason, they don't return quantities, they return boolean success.
20:42.34 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39229 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/metaball/metaball.c: start implementation of new shot method
20:51.20 starseeker ``Erik: yeah, you're right - random garbage
20:52.54 ``Erik finds it odd that starseeker doubted his assessment O.o
21:14.53 juub chuckles
21:32.12 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39230 10/brlcad/trunk/src/gtools/beset/ (beset.c population.c): don't include strings.h for win32 portability. include string.h instead (which fortunately includes strings.h on most modern systems)
21:32.56 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39231 10/brlcad/trunk/src/isst/gears.tcl: Wrong call - opengl window isn't displaying texture, wrong memory somehow.
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22:44.22 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r39232 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/obj-g_new.c: adding code to fuse vertices outside nmg
22:49.44 ``Erik aa1/cl
22:55.50 CIA-73 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39233 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Web docs now viewable on Windows. More to be done on the Windows build with including/building docbook.
22:59.33 starseeker Hah - libxml on Windows http://www.zlatkovic.com/libxml.en.html
23:02.20 starseeker reflects that if Docbook building is actually to be integrated into the Windows build those tools may be essential...
23:02.49 ``Erik miktex *cough*
23:05.26 starseeker or we could try MSXML (shudder)
23:05.56 ``Erik but...but... but... \latex !
23:06.07 ``Erik 60mph winds, damn
23:07.45 starseeker makes a note to remind Bob to commit the tkhtml3 build logic...
23:35.09 starseeker bah - NIST has restricted use of the DLMF for commercial purpose
23:35.26 starseeker that SUCKS

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