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| 01:51.07 | yukonbob | hello, #brlcad :) |
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| 04:15.47 | starseeker | hmm |
| 04:16.18 | starseeker | autoconf-gl-macros author apparently chose that particular license because it's the license of GNU Autoconf |
| 04:16.57 | starseeker | figures this is one of those fine points... |
| 04:17.19 | starseeker | we use autoconf, but don't bundle it in the tree |
| 04:17.56 | starseeker | so autoconf being GPL + exception isn't an issue |
| 04:18.32 | starseeker | but it would be an issue if (for whatever reason) we hand to bundle it into src/other... |
| 04:22.22 | starseeker | hmm... that exception clause makes me wonder a bit... it says the output scripts aren't restricted, but what about a configure.ac file that calls autoconf functions? Is the configure.ac required to be GPL, but the resulting configure is not? |
| 04:23.14 | starseeker | blegh. time for bed |
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| 11:20.43 | ``Erik | neat regex http://www.ex-parrot.com/pdw/Mail-RFC822-Address.html |
| 11:57.26 | starseeker | O.o |
| 11:57.40 | starseeker | figures it'd be a Perl module |
| 12:00.15 | ``Erik | hell of a regex, though... those perl guys are naturals at obfuscated code |
| 12:02.21 | ``Erik | hrm, this is lame, sbcl (or :uffi) doesn't bother with perror() :/ |
| 12:02.33 | ``Erik | Error opening shared object "/Users/erik/src/cl/cl-sdl/build/sdlstub.dylib": dlopen(3) failed. |
| 12:02.49 | starseeker | hmm |
| 12:02.51 | ``Erik | yet I can dlopen and dlsym stuff just fine from C |
| 12:04.19 | ``Erik | ok, uffi has no notion of dlopen itself, it wraps the implementations shtuff, so sbcl is being the stinker |
| 12:04.44 | ``Erik | that makes me a sad panda O.o |
| 12:05.09 | starseeker | that'll be some wacky debugging |
| 12:05.13 | ``Erik | heh |
| 12:05.29 | ``Erik | <-- is extracting and configuring the source for sbcl right now. Gets to try modifying it. :/ |
| 12:14.47 | ``Erik | sucks that swig has no notion of callback definition |
| 12:31.10 | starseeker | notes Cliff Stoll has begun posting to Slashdot - wow, an event that might actually increase rather than decrease the quality of Slashdot |
| 12:31.28 | starseeker | tries to recall the last time something like that happened... |
| 12:38.56 | ``Erik | *think* /. kinda jumped the shark about when user accounts were added |
| 12:39.31 | ``Erik | <-- 745, is allowed to have that opinion, get off my lawn :D |
| 12:41.39 | ``Erik | have to pick up a couple things from http://www.kleinbottle.com/ |
| 12:58.23 | ``Erik | heh, lame, sbcl's build does some dirty tricks with file outputs O.o *hackhackhack* |
| 13:06.58 | starseeker | eyes tclConfig.sh... that'll probably... change when libtool is in play |
| 13:07.48 | starseeker | wishes he new whether he cared about all the SHLIB stuff... |
| 13:10.41 | ``Erik | odd, "no such file or directory", c&p the string passed in and ls it, it exists :/ |
| 13:10.48 | starseeker | O.o |
| 13:11.06 | starseeker | ``Erik: what username did you go for on slashdot? (if I want to know) |
| 13:12.02 | ``Erik | probably some silliness with all this NSAddImage stuff :/ |
| 13:12.13 | ``Erik | my name with a dot in the middle |
| 13:12.24 | starseeker | ah, nice and straightforward :-) |
| 13:12.37 | ``Erik | or, wait, no, space, it allowed spaces |
| 13:15.45 | starseeker | might have done that, but was early in his internet days and was still kinda spooked by the whole thing |
| 13:16.56 | ``Erik | dusts off his g4 powerbook pro O.o |
| 13:17.05 | ``Erik | yeah, I'd gotten over being spooked by that point |
| 13:17.56 | ``Erik | real names can always be gotten one way or another, being excessively evasive just makes ya a target for assholes... |
| 13:18.04 | ``Erik | well, it does for me, cuz I tend to open my mouth and piss people off... :D |
| 13:18.36 | ``Erik | <-- still called 'broke' or 'bman' by some people *shrug* :) |
| 13:20.22 | starseeker | heh - now I'm just too lazy to change |
| 13:20.56 | starseeker | kinda a silly name, but after a decade it's got some inertia |
| 13:21.24 | starseeker | thinks his bzflag name was one of his better name choices... |
| 13:21.39 | ``Erik | being? |
| 13:21.48 | starseeker | TankingAtTanking |
| 13:21.53 | ``Erik | in wow, my character names are a bit... odd O.o |
| 13:22.09 | ``Erik | Hurk (like, the joke death sound from red vs blue), slugeater, dratkcuf, ... |
| 13:22.11 | starseeker | especially fitting if you've seen me play bzflag... |
| 13:22.14 | ``Erik | (read the last one backwards) |
| 13:22.23 | starseeker | heh |
| 13:22.34 | ``Erik | used to quake as Br0X |
| 13:23.08 | starseeker | was just one of the anonymous swarm of cannon fodder in quake matches... |
| 13:23.09 | ``Erik | (which came from Br0kE, which came from BR0keNMAn, cuz it's a damn awesome song and I was lame in '96) |
| 13:23.56 | ``Erik | in the 80's, it was 'Black Dragon' on bbs's, cuz I was REALLY lame and a kid :D |
| 13:24.11 | starseeker | :-D |
| 13:24.12 | ``Erik | and my ascii art attempt at big BD letters came out looking like BO O.o woops |
| 13:24.20 | starseeker | hehehehe |
| 13:24.37 | starseeker | ah well, we live and learn |
| 13:25.02 | ``Erik | 'sides, if I go by Erik, then I get to claim that ray stevens wrote my theme song :D |
| 13:27.06 | ``Erik | http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=447 |
| 13:27.41 | ``Erik | "Subtle as a chainsaw, lacking all the Social Graces" ... :D |
| 13:36.43 | starseeker | hehe |
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| 14:31.46 | ``Erik | yeh, sbcl 1.0.38 might be a bit busted on mac :/ |
| 14:31.47 | ``Erik | lameness |
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| 15:54.52 | smaddox | hey everyone. Can someone help me compile brlcad for Mac OS X 10.6? I'm having a lot of trouble |
| 15:58.29 | ``Erik | do you have both X11.app and Xcode installed? |
| 15:59.25 | smaddox | yes. |
| 16:00.04 | smaddox | I also have darwin ports installed, and tried to get all the dep's installed, thought I'm not sure if I'm having trouble due to mixing darwin ports libraries with Xcode stuff |
| 16:00.34 | ``Erik | hm, macports ya mean? :) |
| 16:00.49 | ``Erik | what's the issue? |
| 16:01.10 | smaddox | I fail at the same point as this guy:http://old.nabble.com/-brlcad-tracker----brlcad-Support-Requests-2924966---Make-error-in-Snow-Leopard-for-openNURBS-td27003602.html |
| 16:01.22 | smaddox | http://old.nabble.com/-brlcad-tracker----brlcad-Support-Requests-2924966---Make-error-in-Snow-Leopard-for-openNURBS-td27003602.html |
| 16:01.58 | smaddox | Although, that is only when I do as suggested in that thread, and use -O2 |
| 16:02.11 | smaddox | usually, I fail at some TK deps |
| 16:02.14 | ``Erik | are you using the tarball or a subversion checkout? |
| 16:02.20 | smaddox | tarball |
| 16:02.25 | ``Erik | hrm, tk deps, try --enable-all in the configure line? |
| 16:02.57 | smaddox | I also get this configure warning: |
| 16:03.31 | smaddox | checking for XGetExtensionVersion in -lXi... (cached) no |
| 16:03.32 | smaddox | configure: }}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} |
| 16:03.32 | smaddox | configure: WARNING: X11 support is enabled but the Xi library was not found. |
| 16:03.32 | smaddox | configure: WARNING: This will likely result in a build failure. |
| 16:03.33 | smaddox | configure: WARNING: See config.log for details why (look for this comment) |
| 16:03.33 | smaddox | configure: {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{ |
| 16:03.36 | ``Erik | can you check to see if your'e compiling the step stuff with both -O3 and -ggstabs3? there's a bug in gcc that might be getting triggered |
| 16:04.03 | ``Erik | ooh, missing libXi might be bad O.o (unfortunately, I don't have 10.6, just 10.2 10.4 and 10.5) |
| 16:04.21 | smaddox | well, thats the thing, I've installed it in macports |
| 16:04.27 | smaddox | but it doesn't find it i guess |
| 16:04.50 | smaddox | can I just point it to it somehow? or will that cause problems with using a different X11 |
| 16:04.51 | ``Erik | you might have to do something with CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS or something to get it to see the stuff in /opt/local |
| 16:06.29 | ``Erik | seeing if the /opt/local/{include,lib} stuff is getting in there might be useful... *shrug* |
| 16:07.41 | smaddox | hmm.. how do I do that. |
| 16:07.57 | ``Erik | crank up config.log in vim or emacs and search? :D |
| 16:08.04 | smaddox | k |
| 16:09.11 | smaddox | ok, so I guess /opt/local/lib and /opt/local/include aren't in my path. I'll try adding them |
| 16:11.06 | ``Erik | the INSTALL file has some notes around line 600 or so |
| 16:15.31 | smaddox | well I added /opt/local/lib and /opt/local/include, but it still isn't finding libxi |
| 16:15.41 | smaddox | how do you updatedb in mac os x? |
| 16:16.12 | ``Erik | just like fbsd... :D /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb |
| 16:16.47 | smaddox | thx |
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| 16:19.49 | smaddox | well, colloquy just crashed and I lost all your suggestions |
| 16:20.03 | smaddox | what IRC app do you use on mac os x? |
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| 16:21.52 | ``Erik | heh, I ssh into a fbsd machine and run irssi (used to be bx) |
| 16:23.00 | ``Erik | the INSTALL file, around like 600 has some info |
| 16:30.26 | smaddox | gah, why does everything have to be so different from linux |
| 16:30.41 | ``Erik | because linux is so different from everyone else... :D |
| 16:31.01 | ``Erik | might as well be asking why everything is backwards from windows ;) *duck* |
| 16:31.15 | smaddox | heh |
| 16:33.09 | ``Erik | one example to mkae that point is 'jot', goes back to the 70's, works the same on bsd, solaris, hpux, aix, mac, ... but linux doesn't have it. linux has 'seq', which is almost the same, but has a couple differences in input order and meaning... |
| 16:35.45 | smaddox | well, you know what they say about intuitive interfaces |
| 16:36.54 | ``Erik | <-- sitting with two macipples on his table here :D |
| 16:37.18 | ``Erik | (the small fast new one dedicated to WoW right now) |
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| 17:10.42 | smaddox | well, I cleaned the configuration cache, and that got rid of the libXi warning |
| 17:10.50 | smaddox | well, that and I ran autogen.sh |
| 17:10.55 | smaddox | not really sure which did it |
| 17:15.52 | smaddox | YAY! It compiled! |
| 17:16.18 | smaddox | now, should I try to compile with optimizations? |
| 17:16.45 | smaddox | uh oh.. benchmark failed |
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| 17:29.34 | ``Erik | what'd it fail on? |
| 17:29.59 | smaddox | RT |
| 17:30.13 | smaddox | not sure what exactly, it's probably out of the buffer by now |
| 17:30.23 | smaddox | i'm recompiling with --enable-optimized |
| 17:32.14 | Nohla | ``Erik bad news, cant find the translations |
| 17:33.21 | Nohla | if they're not hidden in some place at the repo, I'll have to do it again |
| 17:50.34 | smaddox | ``Erik so it still failed to benchmark |
| 17:50.48 | smaddox | Using [./../sh/elapsed.sh] for ELP |
| 17:50.48 | smaddox | ./run.sh: line 594: 65957 Trace/BPT trap $RT -s1 -F/dev/debug ${DB}/moss.g LIGHT > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 17:50.51 | smaddox | ERROR: RT does not seem to work as expected |
| 17:50.54 | smaddox | *** BENCHMARK TESTING FAILED *** |
| 17:50.56 | smaddox | make[1]: *** [run] Error 1 |
| 17:50.59 | smaddox | make: *** [benchmark] Error 2 |
| 18:36.27 | starseeker | eyes the Tk configure.in file and turns a bit pale |
| 19:11.42 | ``Erik | heh |
| 19:11.55 | ``Erik | so much ugly for so little actually accomplished, no? :D |
| 19:19.43 | ``Erik | where the heck is my rubber mallet? I just used a claw hammer and a wadded up rag on my poor car O.o |
| 19:22.41 | ``Erik | (reseating the strut caps, soon they'll go away and the brace will be there instead) |
| 19:49.26 | ``Erik | <-- has no idea what nohla has lost :/ |
| 19:50.18 | ``Erik | smaddox: any luck? |
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| 20:34.11 | ``Erik | jesica: which translations? which repo? |
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| 22:36.07 | smaddox | ``Erik: well the benchmark doesn't get past the first test, but i tried installing it anyway. No luck, though. mged just crashes |
| 22:37.23 | smaddox | Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) |
| 22:37.23 | smaddox | Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x00000007d63a8818 |
| 22:37.24 | smaddox | Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread |
| 22:38.28 | smaddox | you know of anyone getting brlcad to work on osx 10.6? |
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| 23:47.39 | starseeker | ``Erik: actually, the main problem is going to be knowing what can be chopped |
| 23:48.00 | starseeker | a lot of logic goes into windowing system detection and whether or not to build and Apple Framework |
| 23:49.15 | starseeker | I took that out of the tcl logic, but now I'm wondering if it will need to go back in |
| 23:49.23 | starseeker | (not for our needs obviously...) |
| 23:50.18 | starseeker | might be a good candidate for an m4 macro |
| 23:51.50 | starseeker | (the windowing logic obviously has to stay, in some shape or form) |
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