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| 02:06.04 | juub | ``Erik: good to know, thanks. |
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| 04:14.26 | starseeker | takes another crack at Ogre/Ogitor building... |
| 04:59.59 | juub | starseeker: gl |
| 05:00.03 | juub | (no pun intended) |
| 05:00.48 | juub | ``Erik: when you get a chance, could you elaborate on what causes GLUT to become a hinderance? You don't have to go into detail, just the gist or so. Thanks. |
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| 10:30.07 | AlexAnteMachina | hi all |
| 10:30.13 | AlexAnteMachina | anybody alive in here? |
| 10:30.44 | AlexAnteMachina | I just came across brl-cad and like to know wether it is comparable to Solid Edge |
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| 15:17.34 | ``Erik | juub: input and window management is simplistic and crude, and it doesn't allow you to control the top event loop |
| 15:50.14 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39563 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/togl/: Ignore some stuff in togl subdir. |
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| 17:47.02 | brlcad | heh, "comparable" .. you can compare just about anything |
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| 18:36.49 | kenagain | hello everyone |
| 18:39.29 | juub | ``Erik: gotchya, thanks |
| 18:51.59 | brlcad | juub: you working on some code? |
| 18:52.04 | brlcad | howdy kenagain |
| 18:52.07 | juub | not for brlcad, unfortunately. |
| 18:52.20 | juub | Just reading an OpenGL book. |
| 18:52.49 | juub | "OpenGL Programming for the X Window System", it mentions GLUT, and I was asking starseeker the other night why brl-cad doesn't use it. |
| 18:53.10 | brlcad | intos into opengl usually start with glut |
| 18:53.50 | brlcad | glut was developed to help folks get started, get a window up where you could start chattering opengl |
| 18:53.52 | kenagain | is anyone familiar with installing from source on fedora? |
| 18:53.53 | juub | yeah... this starts with Xlib, then Motif, and /then/ GLUT. It's an old book. Source isn't even available on their FTP anymore. |
| 18:54.42 | brlcad | but almost universally accepted that glut is insufficient for almost all real-world applications because the api is overly simplistic |
| 18:55.33 | brlcad | modern glut has gotten a LOT better, come a long way, but it still makes a lot of things difficult and other things impossible |
| 18:55.46 | brlcad | event management is one of the bigger ones |
| 18:56.10 | juub | nods |
| 18:56.12 | brlcad | kenagain: not specifically for fedora, but can probably help you out with building for most environments |
| 18:56.13 | juub | that's what ``Erik was saying. |
| 18:56.31 | brlcad | the guy working on fedora integration has been in here from time to time |
| 18:56.32 | juub | He mentioned SDL as the prime alternative. |
| 18:56.42 | brlcad | yeah |
| 18:57.07 | brlcad | it's a good toolkit for window and event management, abstracted from underlying implementation |
| 18:57.19 | juub | Still, for my purposes: learning OpenGL, GLUT will suffice. I only hope I'm cognizant enough to realize when its limitations are becoming a hinderance. |
| 18:58.07 | kenagain | alright. so fedora 13 doesn't ship with gcc, so I had to install it with yum. now I have it fresh and all, the brlcad config file isn't generating a makefile. I have a log of what went down, but I can't figure out where it went wrong |
| 18:58.31 | kenagain | and the readme just says to ask for help if something goes wrong |
| 18:58.50 | juub | probably missing dependencies.... Although that's likely pointing out the obvious. |
| 18:59.50 | brlcad | juub: glut will not only suffice, it's recommended while you're learning -- consistent stable environment |
| 18:59.58 | juub | brlcad: indeed |
| 19:00.03 | louipc | ~paste |
| 19:00.04 | ibot | i heard paste is http://rafb.net/paste/, or see also pb, or http://bin.cakephp.org/ |
| 19:00.14 | louipc | kenagain: paste the config log |
| 19:00.15 | kenagain | if I fpaste the log file, could someone look it over/ |
| 19:00.18 | kenagain | lol kk |
| 19:00.20 | brlcad | kenagain: you'll also need to install g++ |
| 19:00.22 | louipc | :D |
| 19:00.26 | juub | still, I like the Xlib section. The motif stuff won't compile, and there are too many alternatives to care about that. |
| 19:00.37 | louipc | rafb.net is dead |
| 19:00.45 | juub | http://pastebin.com/ |
| 19:00.57 | louipc | how do you tell ibot that rafb.net is dead? |
| 19:00.58 | louipc | :/ |
| 19:01.32 | juub | also, imagebin.org for screenshots. |
| 19:01.46 | brlcad | kenagain: xlib-devel, xi-devel, xt-devel, bison, flex .. and of course the gnu autotools (autoconf, automake, libtool) |
| 19:01.58 | louipc | I love imagebin |
| 19:02.03 | juub | me too :) |
| 19:02.13 | brlcad | pastebin.com is not recommended, unreachable at some locations, use the .org or the .ca one instead |
| 19:02.58 | juub | didn't know that. |
| 19:04.02 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39564 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/libdm/ (Makefile.am query.c): Odd fixes and tweaks to dm-togl |
| 19:04.19 | brlcad | ibot: forget paste |
| 19:04.19 | ibot | i forgot paste, brlcad |
| 19:04.27 | kenagain | wow, syntax highlighting? pastebin is fancy |
| 19:05.31 | kenagain | http://pastebin.org/316391 |
| 19:05.32 | brlcad | ~paste is http://pastebin.org/ or http://bin.cakephp.org/ or http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 19:05.33 | ibot | okay, brlcad |
| 19:06.19 | brlcad | looks like the pastebin is cut off |
| 19:06.43 | kenagain | yea |
| 19:07.07 | kenagain | its kind of a huge log file |
| 19:07.19 | kenagain | 718.4 k |
| 19:07.39 | kenagain | it maxed the limit of fpaste too |
| 19:07.47 | brlcad | post the standard out instead of the log file |
| 19:08.20 | brlcad | the log file is to figure out "why" .. the regular output will say "what" and that might be enough |
| 19:09.03 | kenagain | and that would be which file? afaik, this is all config put out |
| 19:09.15 | brlcad | what ./configure spit out when you run it |
| 19:09.29 | brlcad | lots of "checking...." lines and then some |
| 19:10.05 | kenagain | ah, kk, lemme run it again |
| 19:10.15 | brlcad | did you run autogen.sh ? |
| 19:10.48 | kenagain | no, the readme said to use that if I dont have a config file |
| 19:10.57 | brlcad | k, just checking |
| 19:13.12 | kenagain | http://pastebin.org/316407 |
| 19:13.38 | kenagain | that is ./configure > out.txt |
| 19:14.15 | brlcad | yep |
| 19:14.18 | brlcad | what I said first |
| 19:14.30 | brlcad | 15:00 < brlcad> kenagain: you'll also need to install g++ |
| 19:14.34 | kenagain | ah |
| 19:14.58 | brlcad | would be better if you install bison and flex too |
| 19:14.59 | kenagain | ok, does it look like anything else critical is missing while I'm at it? |
| 19:15.12 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39565 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/libdm/dm-togl.c: Ah HAH! need to send the Motion events back up to the parent. Stand-alone classic mode window now has motion. |
| 19:15.20 | brlcad | yeah, you're missing all of the X11 development libs/headers |
| 19:15.59 | brlcad | xlib-devel, xi-devel, xt-devel .. not sure exactly what fedora names them, but they're the -devel or -dev counterparts that let you compile against X11 |
| 19:16.52 | louipc | boost, tcl, tk |
| 19:16.52 | kenagain | yea, yum isn't finding any g++ |
| 19:17.01 | louipc | g++ really should be in gcc |
| 19:17.02 | brlcad | starseeker: woot |
| 19:17.48 | kenagain | louipc: do you mean it's supposed to be there or it really ought to be there? |
| 19:17.52 | brlcad | yum install gcc-c++ |
| 19:18.11 | kenagain | that worked! |
| 19:18.15 | louipc | kenagain: not sure anymore haha |
| 19:18.17 | starseeker | brlcad: which, unfortunately, doesn't mean the regular level is behaving yet :-P |
| 19:18.22 | louipc | gcc = gnu compiler collection |
| 19:18.41 | kenagain | then yea, I would've assumed it would in there |
| 19:18.47 | louipc | including compilers for c, c++, etc |
| 19:18.56 | louipc | yea |
| 19:19.00 | brlcad | louipc: they break it out separate because of a lot of folks that have religion on not installing any g++ code on their system .. :) |
| 19:19.10 | brlcad | s/g++/c++/ :) |
| 19:19.23 | louipc | wow, some weird religions out there |
| 19:23.56 | kenagain | ok, so the closest thing I can find to the x*devel packages is one called "x-software-development" which is described as "These packages allow you to develop applications for the X Window System" |
| 19:24.18 | kenagain | no idea what's in them |
| 19:24.43 | kenagain | but its a 10.5 MB collection |
| 19:25.16 | brlcad | that sounds about right |
| 19:25.25 | brlcad | will know more when you run configure about |
| 19:25.28 | brlcad | s/about/again/ |
| 19:28.02 | kenagain | is it weird for them to all be packaged together like that (in a group) but not individually? |
| 19:28.09 | brlcad | yeah, a little |
| 19:29.45 | kenagain | ok, well this time I got a makefile, but also a lot of configure: WARNING:s |
| 19:30.08 | louipc | what was the output at the end of the config? |
| 19:30.29 | kenagain | http://pastebin.org/316431 |
| 19:31.04 | kenagain | ./configure complete, type 'make' to begin building |
| 19:31.05 | louipc | looks like it cut off |
| 19:31.29 | louipc | there should be a table showing what's being built and what isn't |
| 19:32.07 | brlcad | looks like it found X11 stuff |
| 19:32.16 | louipc | if you got to that part you may be good |
| 19:32.23 | brlcad | and the only warning block I see is about IEEE compat, so you should be good |
| 19:32.23 | kenagain | yea, it's making right now |
| 19:33.14 | kenagain | awesome. I've been having problems getting this installed on fedora since f9, I'm kinda really excited |
| 19:33.36 | louipc | brl-cad packages all the libraries it needs, so you may be able to reduce build time buy just installing those dependencies |
| 19:33.45 | louipc | *by just installing them |
| 19:34.06 | louipc | via your distro package manager |
| 19:34.40 | kenagain | wait. it packages all the x11 stuff and all that? |
| 19:35.01 | louipc | ok not everything, but a lot :D |
| 19:35.04 | kenagain | lol o |
| 19:35.12 | kenagain | I thought you meant everything I just installed |
| 19:35.46 | brlcad | heh, no those are the pieces we don't bundle that are considered system components |
| 19:35.52 | louipc | yeah but you may be able to reduce the amount of building |
| 19:36.04 | kenagain | it would be nice if someone in charge of the repos would keep an up-to-date and working build of this |
| 19:36.06 | brlcad | userland dependencies include things like libz, libpng, tcl/tk, librle, etc |
| 19:36.35 | brlcad | someone on the fedora team has been working on it -- just not a simple process to get clean integration |
| 19:36.52 | kenagain | oh good! |
| 19:37.26 | kenagain | i probably can't do too much, but is there any way I can help speed this process along? |
| 19:37.43 | brlcad | you could chime in your support here: http://dnmouse.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1877&sid=501da1ea7aeb6d69b22eba6aa20711bb |
| 19:38.23 | brlcad | or more directly here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=518949 |
| 19:38.58 | kenagain | oh, inclusion in autoten? that would be amazing |
| 19:39.07 | brlcad | voting for it will increase the priority, or ping kwizart some more |
| 19:43.23 | brlcad | which reminds me of a few things they're waiting on.... |
| 19:43.36 | kenagain | ? |
| 19:47.07 | brlcad | details are all in the link |
| 19:47.20 | kenagain | ah, that stuff down there in the bottom? |
| 19:54.59 | brlcad | some |
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| 19:59.23 | kenagain | su |
| 19:59.28 | kenagain | er, wrong windo |
| 20:04.38 | kenagain | alright, so making the whole thing just overheated my comp... I think louipc said something about installing a lot of the deps that it's building through yum? is there a simple list of those somewhere in the source package? |
| 20:05.08 | louipc | look at the table at the end of configure log |
| 20:05.25 | louipc | some things you can install are tcl, tk, boost |
| 20:05.37 | louipc | search your package repos |
| 20:06.20 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39566 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/libdm/dm-togl.c: Wince. This is ugly, but works - pass up the combinations of modifier and button keys. |
| 20:07.36 | kenagain | louipc: you mean the part that starts like: "congure:52388: Build Tcl ...............: yes", right? |
| 20:08.11 | louipc | yep |
| 20:08.42 | louipc | you'd want that to say [using system] instead of yes |
| 20:08.50 | kenagain | andthen I would just configure again and they'd be seen and not have to be rebuilt? or would I have to explicitly say "I don't need your stinking version of Tcl" and such? |
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| 20:09.21 | kenagain | (the --disable-whatever options) |
| 20:09.30 | louipc | yep |
| 20:09.57 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39567 10/brlcad/trunk/include/bn.h: rt_vlists have been bn_vlists for a decade |
| 20:09.59 | louipc | you might have to tell configure where it is installed |
| 20:10.09 | louipc | make sure you get the development headers too |
| 20:10.35 | brlcad | might need to delete your configure cache if you install new system components without changing other configure options |
| 20:10.51 | kenagain | ok |
| 20:11.26 | brlcad | not a big deal either way other than using up a few more MB of disk space on instal |
| 20:13.39 | kenagain | I think all that uninterrupted building caused my comp to overheat and shutdown on me |
| 20:14.01 | kenagain | so I'm just trying to minimize as much of that as I can |
| 20:16.32 | brlcad | that's pretty wicked that compiling would overheat to the point of shutdown.. bad hardware! |
| 20:17.05 | kenagain | its a laptop with almost no cooling power |
| 20:17.39 | kenagain | sometimes flash objects do it too |
| 20:19.40 | kenagain | ok, so how do I go about telling configure where I already have all these things installed? it's still giving me the the "build tcl ..: yes" bit |
| 20:19.57 | brlcad | delete your cache file |
| 20:20.02 | kenagain | i did |
| 20:20.07 | brlcad | rm -rf *cache* |
| 20:20.26 | kenagain | yep |
| 20:20.42 | brlcad | try just --disable-tcl first |
| 20:20.51 | brlcad | also can leave off --enable-optimized |
| 20:21.02 | brlcad | that'll just make it burn more cpu during compile |
| 20:21.05 | kenagain | ok |
| 20:22.23 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39568 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/libdm/dm-togl.c: For this application we need Tk_PathName |
| 20:23.30 | kenagain | configure: libtcl was disabled, but no system Tcl library was found |
| 20:23.35 | kenagain | configure: libtcl was disabled, but no system Tcl library was found |
| 20:23.50 | kenagain | (sorry about the mini flood) |
| 20:24.49 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39569 10/brlcad/trunk/ (NEWS src/librt/primitives/extrude/extrude.c): |
| 20:24.49 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: osten lundahl notes in sf bug report 3012694 (Bug in rt_extrude_tess) that we're |
| 20:24.49 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: iterating over vlists from index 1 instead of index 0. the header confirms that |
| 20:24.50 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: indices should be from 0, so this is a bug in the original extrude tessellation |
| 20:24.50 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: implementation from Aug 2001. |
| 20:25.02 | brlcad | okay, so it needs to be told where tcl is or you're still missing something |
| 20:25.11 | louipc | maybe headers |
| 20:25.38 | brlcad | --with-tcl=/path/to/tcl |
| 20:25.44 | brlcad | to a dir that has tclConfig.sh |
| 20:25.49 | brlcad | (locate tclConfig.sh) |
| 20:30.28 | kenagain | awesome |
| 20:31.46 | kenagain | everything I installed seems to be there (couldnt find tkhtml3 or a few other things, but everything I installed is now found by configure) |
| 20:32.21 | louipc | yeah a few aren't generally available |
| 20:33.00 | kenagain | so here's hoping I don't overheat! |
| 20:33.53 | kenagain | (I moved my laptop over to a much cooler corner of the desk) |
| 20:34.56 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39570 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/libdm/dm-togl.c: Oh yeah, the key bindings should use Tk_PathName too. |
| 20:35.10 | brlcad | blow on it |
| 20:36.19 | kenagain | just like soup |
| 20:38.22 | kenagain | yea, if anyone's ever looking into the inspiron 1500 series of laptops for a cheap knock around notebook, don't bother. I clean my fan and heatsink every couple of weeks and this is still a regular problem |
| 20:39.39 | juub | ah ha. I see pastebin.com and pastebin.org are different sites. Here I thought they just changed their layout, when it was really .org I was after. |
| 20:42.51 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39571 10/brlcad/branches/dmtogl/src/ (5 files in 4 dirs): Try togl in Archer |
| 20:44.59 | kenagain | success! |
| 20:45.27 | brlcad | excellent |
| 20:46.01 | brlcad | might crank your cpu too hot, but can verify with "make install" and then "/usr/brlcad/bin/benchmark" |
| 20:46.33 | starseeker | wooot - http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/archer_togl_aqua.png |
| 20:46.49 | kenagain | doing that now |
| 20:47.37 | kenagain | did install, something went wrong, no benchmark |
| 20:49.19 | kenagain | mged is supposed to be in /usr/brlcad/bin, right? |
| 20:49.31 | starseeker | yes |
| 20:49.42 | kenagain | yea, thats not there either |
| 20:52.52 | brlcad | starseeker: that's using togl? awesome :) |
| 20:53.20 | kenagain | alright, so configure seemed to work ok, make seemed to work ok, make install didn;t look like itgave me any trouble... |
| 20:54.08 | brlcad | mged should be in /usr/brlcad/bin |
| 20:54.12 | brlcad | along with 400 other tools |
| 20:54.19 | kenagain | and yet I have neither benchmark (but I didnt run make benchmark) nor mged (which I assume I'm supposed to have) |
| 20:54.37 | brlcad | where did it install? |
| 20:54.42 | juub | starseeker: congratulations! |
| 20:55.14 | starseeker | brlcad: interactive, too! |
| 20:55.38 | kenagain | there is a /usr/brlcad and there is a /usr/brlcad/bin and it has a whole lot of stuff in it, but none of it is mged |
| 20:56.19 | juub | kenagain: you can try updating your locate database ($ sudo updatedb), and when it's done try $ locate mged |
| 20:56.24 | kenagain | or at least ls-al isnt showing me an mged |
| 20:56.51 | kenagain | where is updatedb? |
| 20:57.02 | juub | it's a Linux system utility, it has nothing to do with BRL-CAD. |
| 20:57.29 | kenagain | yea, I dont think I have that or locate, or at least theyre not in my path |
| 20:57.35 | juub | to find it, if you really want to know, try $ which updatedb |
| 20:58.01 | juub | locate is in /usr/bin/ on my system, but one problem at a time. If you can't use it, don't bother. |
| 20:58.09 | kenagain | ok |
| 20:58.16 | juub | what distro are you on? |
| 20:58.23 | kenagain | fedora 13 |
| 20:58.36 | juub | oh, that's one of those Red Hat offshoots, isn't it? |
| 20:58.40 | kenagain | yea |
| 20:58.44 | juub | nods |
| 20:59.36 | juub | issuing locate at the command prompt results in a file/command not found? |
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| 20:59.46 | kenagain | yep |
| 20:59.51 | juub | interesting |
| 21:00.17 | kenagain | and yum info locate says No package locate available |
| 21:00.17 | juub | I guess locate is basically just $ find issued across the entire filesystem tree. |
| 21:00.34 | starseeker | try slocate |
| 21:00.46 | kenagain | none of that either |
| 21:01.31 | juub | starseeker: ah, there you go. I never knew locate was a sym link to slocate on my system. |
| 21:01.49 | starseeker | there should be a Fedora package for slocate |
| 21:02.17 | kenagain | nope, no matching packages |
| 21:02.37 | kenagain | at least, not in the repos I have |
| 21:03.21 | kenagain | (the default, rpmfusion, and I think livna) |
| 21:05.10 | kenagain | is there a recursive option or something similar for find? |
| 21:05.43 | starseeker | you can do find from the root directory, but that will be slllow |
| 21:06.11 | starseeker | what about mlocate? |
| 21:06.15 | kenagain | ok, so find does decend into subdirectories then? |
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| 21:06.43 | kenagain | ok, mlocate exists and I'm installing it now |
| 21:07.13 | starseeker | huh - I'll have to try mlocate |
| 21:07.20 | kenagain | (whats weird is that "yum info *locate*" didnt show it) |
| 21:08.10 | kenagain | lol oh, nvm, I used locate* |
| 21:08.10 | brlcad | kenagain: a bit distracted -- doesn't really matter if you have locate or not -- the idea is to find where it was installed, which you can do manually |
| 21:08.25 | brlcad | ls -la /usr/brlcad/bin/m* |
| 21:08.47 | brlcad | should be about 10 items listed |
| 21:08.51 | kenagain | mcut and mergechan |
| 21:08.56 | brlcad | just those two? |
| 21:08.56 | kenagain | just the two |
| 21:09.01 | kenagain | yea |
| 21:09.01 | brlcad | wow, odd |
| 21:09.10 | brlcad | you sure make install completed? |
| 21:09.23 | kenagain | as sure as I can be |
| 21:09.27 | brlcad | heh |
| 21:09.36 | kenagain | it gave the prompt back |
| 21:09.47 | brlcad | that doesn't mean anything |
| 21:09.59 | brlcad | would have had to read the output |
| 21:10.28 | brlcad | make install > install.log 2>&1 |
| 21:10.33 | kenagain | it doesn't log that anywhere special by any chance, does it? |
| 21:10.39 | kenagain | right |
| 21:10.40 | brlcad | you can just run it again |
| 21:11.16 | kenagain | ok |
| 21:12.21 | kenagain | done |
| 21:14.13 | kenagain | http://fpaste.org/oCUO/ |
| 21:14.30 | juub | you can also echo the special variable $? to see if it exitted cleanly or with an error. |
| 21:14.35 | juub | e.g. $ echo $? |
| 21:14.48 | kenagain | 0 |
| 21:15.15 | juub | no, you've issued a command after issuing make install, because your pastebin clearly displays errors. |
| 21:15.29 | kenagain | o |
| 21:16.03 | juub | The special variable $? always contains the return status of the last issued command --- although there are probably some fancy goings on with threading, forks, and exec issuance. |
| 21:16.52 | kenagain | yea, I fpasted immediately after make install but before I did that |
| 21:18.03 | kenagain | ok, so reading this log, I cant actually see what went wrong |
| 21:18.13 | juub | it's down at the bottom... |
| 21:18.28 | brlcad | yeah, make install failed |
| 21:18.34 | juub | line 183 |
| 21:18.54 | kenagain | cannot find -litk? |
| 21:19.08 | brlcad | yeah, you need to install incrTcl and incrTk |
| 21:19.26 | brlcad | don't know if those are separate packages for fedora |
| 21:19.52 | brlcad | usually installing incrTcl gets both itcl and itk, but looks like maybe not the case for you |
| 21:20.26 | kenagain | yea, I installed itcl and itk, but theres no incrtcl or incrtk in the repos |
| 21:21.05 | kenagain | I also have the -devel packages for both |
| 21:21.21 | juub | I need food. I'll bbl. gl kenagain |
| 21:21.25 | kenagain | thanks |
| 21:21.37 | juub | oh, and when you're done installing BRL-CAD, grab the documentation tutorials. |
| 21:21.58 | brlcad | itcl is incrTcl, itk is incrTk |
| 21:22.07 | kenagain | ah |
| 21:22.23 | kenagain | well I should have both of those, and configure was able to find them |
| 21:22.35 | kenagain | er I *do* have both of those rather |
| 21:22.40 | juub | perhaps a problem with environment variables not pointing to the proper directories? |
| 21:23.02 | brlcad | now need the config.log output, to see if everything detected correctly |
| 21:24.05 | kenagain | http://fpaste.org/GO63/ |
| 21:26.10 | kenagain | I really need to learn to figure this sorta stuff out |
| 21:30.50 | juub | well, it's all in the log files. You saw the error in the make install output, the "cannot find -litk". With that information you could plug the error directly into google, and see what others have done. Alternatively, you could break up the error into its component parts, and research each individually. In this specific case, you would read the ld manual page to learn what the -litk option is. |
| 21:31.09 | juub | You would discover that it's actually -l option, which would give you insights about itk that you could then plug into google. |
| 21:40.02 | kenagain | so then would I be correct in saying it looks like ld doesnt have a location for itk in its path? |
| 22:12.01 | brlcad | so it looks like configure detected it properly and it's set to use it correctly .. except that curiously it should be -litk3.4 |
| 22:12.51 | kenagain | hmmm |
| 22:13.11 | kenagain | so that is fixable then, right? |
| 22:13.39 | brlcad | grep ITK src/libtclcad/Makefile |
| 22:13.43 | brlcad | what does that report? |
| 22:15.47 | kenagain | ITK - -litk3.4; ITK_CPPFLAGS =; ITK_LIB_FILE = libtk3.4.so; LIBITK = -litk3.4 |
| 22:16.00 | brlcad | huh |
| 22:16.29 | brlcad | grep -i itk src/libtclcad/libtclcad.la |
| 22:17.23 | kenagain | er |
| 22:17.41 | brlcad | ? |
| 22:17.47 | kenagain | http://fpaste.org/Ok2N/ |
| 22:18.19 | brlcad | you don't have to pastebin if it's <5 lines .. even long lines ;) |
| 22:19.06 | kenagain | I wasnt actually sure where or how many linebreaks there were |
| 22:19.14 | brlcad | hum, there's the problem there somewhere |
| 22:19.29 | kenagain | it just flooded my terminal, so I piped it into fpaste to be safe |
| 22:19.52 | brlcad | no problem |
| 22:20.11 | brlcad | never hurts to pastebin, just don't want to waste your time either |
| 22:20.37 | brlcad | i think you have a mixed build |
| 22:20.40 | kenagain | oh, don't worry about that; I've got nothing but time until september |
| 22:20.43 | brlcad | from the previous configure attempts |
| 22:20.55 | brlcad | a partial or even completed build |
| 22:20.57 | brlcad | make clean |
| 22:20.59 | brlcad | make |
| 22:21.14 | brlcad | make install |
| 22:21.15 | brlcad | :) |
| 22:21.19 | kenagain | awesome |
| 22:21.57 | brlcad | hits the road for a bit, back later |
| 22:22.06 | kenagain | should I make benchmark this time? |
| 22:22.07 | kenagain | kk |
| 22:22.11 | kenagain | thanks for the help |
| 22:22.31 | brlcad | no, install first -- see if the tools are there, run the installed benchmark |
| 22:22.36 | brlcad | np |
| 22:22.42 | kenagain | ok cool, thanks again |
| 22:57.52 | kenagain | it worked! thanks a whole lot, you guys are awesome |
