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| 02:46.42 | juub | right! |
| 02:46.51 | brlcad | :) |
| 02:51.06 | juub | how's it going? |
| 03:06.08 | juub | that's great. |
| 03:06.27 | brlcad | :) |
| 03:06.37 | brlcad | going great indeed |
| 03:07.54 | starseeker | glowers at Ogre and installs FreeImage... |
| 03:08.24 | juub | careful, those ogres can be dangerous. You might end up in an animated, blockbuster, film. |
| 03:09.07 | starseeker | what's the point in licensing MIT if you require a GPL image library?? |
| 03:09.21 | juub | lol |
| 03:09.41 | juub | well, since it's MIT you can make it depend on a non-GPL image library with a lot of fussing. |
| 03:09.47 | juub | s/fussing/rewriting/ |
| 03:09.52 | starseeker | sighs |
| 03:09.58 | starseeker | yeah, I suppose |
| 03:11.08 | starseeker | checks to see if openscenegraph has any such issues... |
| 04:08.10 | starseeker | notes his mouse events are a bit too enthused about setting x,y coordinates... |
| 04:12.02 | brlcad | starseeker: not particularly happy about freeimage either, but their reasoning is probably because it's dual-licensed |
| 04:13.01 | brlcad | their FIPL license seems to be compatible |
| 04:13.47 | starseeker | oh, with LGPL? |
| 04:13.48 | brlcad | reads a lot like LGPLv3 or a super-verbose MIT license with extra language defining terms and talking about patents |
| 04:13.51 | starseeker | hasn't read... |
| 04:14.01 | starseeker | nods |
| 04:14.54 | brlcad | at least that seems to be their intent |
| 04:15.23 | starseeker | we'll have to give that a careful read if/when we actually get something up and running with Ogre |
| 04:15.46 | starseeker | apparently it's not optional in any serious sense (Ogitor appears to crash without it) |
| 04:15.56 | brlcad | since the license is so verbose, I wouldn't be surprised if there were ways to nitpick a potential flaw or two, especially without OSI vetting |
| 04:16.07 | brlcad | they list it as a core dependency now |
| 04:16.45 | brlcad | don't remember if they used DevIL before |
| 04:17.41 | starseeker | yes, I believe I saw that listed as an option earlier |
| 04:18.01 | starseeker | this'll be peachy - IIRC gentoo booted freeimage out of portage |
| 04:18.16 | brlcad | yeah, devil |
| 04:19.40 | starseeker | and I can't even BUILD with freeimage installed |
| 04:20.49 | starseeker | wait, new freeimage ebuild... |
| 04:20.51 | starseeker | tries that |
| 04:28.14 | starseeker | ``Erik: this looks like something you might enjoy: http://password-taxi.at/EQL |
| 04:36.17 | starseeker | ok, ogre built with the gentoo ebuild freeimage... good... |
| 04:44.50 | brlcad | interesting, they dropped DevIL because it's now incompatible with their license |
| 04:45.05 | brlcad | they were LGPL (and DevIL is LGPL), but are now MIT |
| 04:53.33 | starseeker | The implication being that FIPL is compatible... wow, they're relying a non-OSI license with GPL as the alternative. Eek |
| 04:56.17 | starseeker | gives up commenting out Ogitor build errors for the night... |
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| 13:35.22 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39572 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: doc tasks. need dsp brief and fix forums on wiki. |
| 13:52.05 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39573 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/ (camera.c camera.h): seperate fov (for perspective) and grid size (for ortho) instead of overloading a single variable |
| 14:00.09 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39574 10/isst/trunk/sdl/ (event.c main.c): add ortho mode, "o" toggles |
| 14:13.02 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39575 10/isst/trunk/gtk/ (gui.c local_worker.c): use gridsize stuff. ortho mapping and shotline now seem to work correctly |
| 14:23.57 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39576 10/brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/ (librender/camera.c load_g.c): remove some matid debugging bu_log |
| 14:24.43 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39577 10/isst/trunk/sdl/event.c: Z now does the opposize of z (resolution adjustment) |
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| 14:45.58 | juub | g'morning |
| 14:48.36 | brlcad | howdy |
| 14:50.12 | juub | how're you? |
| 14:50.34 | juub | what did you mean above by "OSI"? I've only heard it used in the networking context... |
| 14:54.30 | ``Erik | open source initiative |
| 14:54.57 | ``Erik | http://www.opensource.org/licenses |
| 15:00.40 | juub | ah, thanks |
| 15:01.25 | juub | humph, I already have that paged bookmarked :/ Shoulda made the connection. |
| 15:01.33 | juub | blames the morning. |
| 15:17.56 | brlcad | OSI provides a clear definition of open source and has lawyers to review licenses to determine whether they fit the definition or not |
| 15:19.14 | brlcad | a license that they won't approve either has clauses that aren't in the spirit of open source, have bad/ambiguous language, or is completely redundant with another license (among other things) |
| 15:19.46 | brlcad | good gatekeepers of the definition without a free software bias |
| 15:28.27 | juub | nods |
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