| 00:00.06 | ``Erik | someone where I work has an m coupe, a red http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lsyt_wQ2awY/SKBYegDbICI/AAAAAAAAE8k/c2iD_4ivkl8/s400/BMW-M_Coupe_1999_800x600_wallpaper_09.jpg |
| 00:00.24 | ``Erik | <-- used to drive an old civic station wagon, the form is very useful |
| 00:01.07 | mafm | it's this exact looks, bumpers and wheels and everything: http://www.cochesdeocasion.com/coche_segundamano/BMW-SERIE-1-PnFkDz01JTG8ZGyV633K.html |
| 00:01.25 | mafm | still new, but great performance (not that we can speed much) and excellent mileage |
| 00:03.10 | mafm | less than 5 litres for 100km (dunno how much is that in US mpg) |
| 00:04.06 | mafm | Your answer is -> 47.04 (a calculator says) |
| 00:04.18 | ``Erik | hm, 47 |
| 00:04.19 | ``Erik | yes |
| 00:04.44 | ``Erik | I'm getting around 10.2l/100km |
| 00:04.51 | mafm | diesel (mostly clean), petrol is less |
| 00:04.51 | dtidrow | if my wife can find a job sometime in the near future, I might start looking for a used Nissan 240SX for a project car |
| 00:05.25 | mafm | but now they're advertising a 3 series (not m) with 4.1 litres/100km |
| 00:05.44 | mafm | and 5 and 7 series with less than 5l/100km |
| 00:05.56 | ``Erik | would like to see small indirect drive diesel/electrics :/ |
| 00:06.03 | mafm | with petrol, you'd have to add 1.5/2 litres to that |
| 00:06.08 | ``Erik | a diesel generator, some capacitors and a couple DC motors |
| 00:06.18 | mafm | xD |
| 00:06.26 | mafm | that's a chevrolet volt! |
| 00:06.43 | ``Erik | no, chevy volt has some other ugliness to it, and is petrol only |
| 00:07.08 | ``Erik | it has bunches of heavy batteries, and a gas engine to 'charge the batteries' when ya get too low on charged power |
| 00:07.18 | dtidrow | was tempted by them back when I graduated - pretty anemic stock, but turbo them and they go like stink |
| 00:07.37 | ``Erik | it's all about the corners, dude :D |
| 00:07.50 | mafm | BMW is starting to ship hybrids here, but more for performance than savings, and prius-like (not a diesel generator operating to charge electric engines at optimum speed, but a regular engine) |
| 00:07.51 | ``Erik | <-- plans on putting in strut braces next |
| 00:07.57 | dtidrow | another reason to get the 240SX :-) |
| 00:08.31 | dtidrow | apparently they're known for being nimble |
| 00:09.04 | mafm | hmm |
| 00:09.20 | mafm | nissan mostly only sells a minicar and a semi-suv here |
| 00:09.39 | dtidrow | one of the very few front-engine, rear-drive small sport coupes from back in the '90s |
| 00:11.14 | mafm | wheeee |
| 00:11.24 | mafm | we were almost an undeveloped country by then :D |
| 00:12.09 | mafm | they might be selling here,but wouldn't be very popular |
| 00:12.16 | ``Erik | almost an undeveloped country? so you've made it up to being an undeveloped country now? ;> *duck* |
| 00:12.21 | mafm | popular as in... common |
| 00:12.43 | mafm | well, in fact we are close... 20% unemployment |
| 00:13.11 | mafm | average salary wage half of the UK... |
| 00:13.16 | dtidrow | real unemployment is almost that bad here |
| 00:13.49 | ``Erik | average really doesn't mean much, median is a much better indicator |
| 00:13.51 | mafm | Greeks are in deep financial crisis, Portugal and Spain are not very far away |
| 00:14.22 | mafm | deep as in... really bankrupt, much worse than the rest of the world |
| 00:14.27 | ``Erik | the greeks kinda seem to be putting the entire eu into a financial crises O.o |
| 00:14.35 | mafm | yep |
| 00:14.44 | mafm | we're in a group called... PIGS |
| 00:14.54 | mafm | Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain |
| 00:15.15 | dtidrow | and we're gonna be Greece in ten years at the rate the dumbasses in D.C. are spending our children's incomes... |
| 00:15.20 | mafm | the basis of the economy is buildings and so on... so you get the idea |
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| 00:21.53 | mafm | did anybody make any progress with the debian package? |
| 01:25.33 | ``Erik | huh, looks like the USA accidently tied england |
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| 15:24.55 | brlcad | starseeker: "should have known not to use vls there" ?? |
| 15:25.20 | brlcad | using vls most places should be perfectly fine so long as you init/free correctly |
| 15:25.48 | brlcad | howdy mafm |
| 15:26.34 | brlcad | starseeker: be really surprised if you hear back from profont guys, that ship sailed a long time ago several times over, but lemme know if you do -- otherwise that insolata font you found looks pretty interesting |
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| 15:36.44 | brlcad | would take an open font over profont any day just to avoid ambiguity |
| 15:36.54 | brlcad | in addition to inconsolata, there's anonymous pro: http://www.ms-studio.com/FontSales/anonymouspro.html |
| 15:50.50 | mafm | hi brlcad |
| 18:09.18 | brlcad | starseeker: http://brlcad.org/tmp/fonts.png |
| 18:10.45 | brlcad | Inconsolata actually does quite nicely |
| 18:13.54 | brlcad | ibot: seen nohla |
| 18:13.57 | ibot | nohla <~jesica@201.255.224.156> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 21d 40m 36s ago, saying: 'if they're not hidden in some place at the repo, I'll have to do it again'. |
| 18:16.45 | brlcad | of course, that's with anti-aliasing ... hm! |
| 18:27.50 | starseeker | was kinda impressed to see inconsolata make #1 on a font list with ProFont at #7... |
| 18:28.53 | starseeker | Ah, cool - Anonymous is OFL... didn't see that |
| 18:29.57 | starseeker | brlcad: it looked like the vls routines were getting hung up in semiphore logic somewhere |
| 18:30.34 | starseeker | I don't think any of the if_*.c files use vls, come to think of it... |
| 18:32.03 | starseeker | should give credit where it is due - this the font review I was looking at: http://hivelogic.com/articles/top-10-programming-fonts |
| 19:02.43 | brlcad | starseeker: were you acquiring a semaphore, or inside of a routine that had already acquired one? |
| 19:02.56 | brlcad | probably the latter, I'd guess |
| 19:03.58 | brlcad | can't acquire a BU_SEMSYSCALL semaphore, for example, if you're in a libfb write() routine as that kicks of a write as may vls |
| 19:04.11 | brlcad | one some vls routines, though too |
| 19:04.21 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/tmp/fonts_aa.png |
| 19:04.25 | brlcad | http://brlcad.org/tmp/fonts_noaa.png |
| 19:06.51 | brlcad | very interesting results |
| 19:10.21 | brlcad | horizontally, inconsolata and deja vu sans mono do the best vertically, inconsolata and anonymous pro do the best horizontally |
| 19:10.33 | brlcad | s/horizontally, // :P |
| 19:11.53 | brlcad | that would indicate inconsolata as a good pick but then it's the worse of the three for distinguishing l and 1 too :) |
| 19:17.18 | brlcad | taking it down a notch to 9pt, DejaVu stands out a bit more impressively: brlcad.org/tmp/fonts_9ptnoaa.png |
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| 20:37.16 | starseeker | in an opengl context, we don't get antialiasing do we? |
| 20:38.03 | starseeker | brlcad: so we take inconsolata and swap out the l and 1 characters? :-P |
| 20:38.09 | ``Erik | "scientists finally invented a car that runs on water. Unfortunately, that water has to be from the gulf of mexico." |
| 20:39.43 | starseeker | raises eyebrows... DejaVu does stand out, doesn't it |
| 20:40.22 | starseeker | well, fonts are fairly small... what about putting in DejaVu, Anonymous and Inconsolata and allowing the user to swap 'em? |
| 20:41.25 | starseeker | ``Erik: heh - if you can't run on water, redefine water |
| 20:42.00 | starseeker | ``Erik: reminds me of certain school districts' approach to science and creationism... if it's not science, redefine what science means! |
| 20:57.31 | ``Erik | hah, a sign in a 7-11 that says "slurpees are NOT a food stamp item" |
| 21:18.19 | brlcad | starseeker: sure you get AA |
| 21:18.41 | starseeker | ah, cool |
| 21:18.55 | brlcad | rather, you can render the font's with or without |
| 21:19.22 | brlcad | you're just drawing to a texture, so you can draw AA or not |
| 21:19.29 | starseeker | didn't know if freetype+ftgl would result in AA... |
| 21:19.36 | brlcad | happens at the freetype level |
| 21:19.42 | starseeker | oh, OK |
| 21:19.48 | brlcad | ftgl passes the option through |
| 21:19.53 | starseeker | sweet |
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| 22:10.39 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39593 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/Makefile.am: ws |
| 22:17.22 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39594 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/ (7 files in 2 dirs): add lesson 12 translation from english to spanish from Jesica Giudice, with others to follow. |
| 22:17.44 | starseeker | Yay! \o/ |
| 22:19.09 | starseeker | sighs as gentoo chugs through another KDE upgrade |
| 22:22.59 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39595 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add lesson 11 translation from english to spanish from Jesica Giudice. had two minor typo corrections on end-para tags. |
| 22:25.10 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39596 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add lesson 10 translation from english to spanish from Jesica Giudice |
| 22:27.55 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39597 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/ (5 files): refer to lessons/es/images instead of lessons/en/images |
| 22:38.27 | ``Erik | heh |
| 22:38.33 | ``Erik | <-- pets gnome |
| 22:45.25 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39598 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/Makefile.am: add the new lesson images for 10, 11, 12 |
| 22:57.17 | starseeker | ``Erik: I probably have most of gnome on here too, actually... I tend to be rather agressive when enabling features |
| 22:58.57 | ``Erik | <-- tries to do the minimal set to accomplish the tasks he wants to accomplish.. unfortunately has custom software in gnome1 and pidgin uses gnome2 :/ |
| 23:03.04 | starseeker | eh - I figure, for a desktop, space is cheap |
| 23:03.17 | starseeker | what I don't do is enable a lot of port servers by default |
| 23:03.23 | ``Erik | until you don't have it... I'm still on a 20 gig drive |
| 23:03.29 | starseeker | recalls Redhat being bad about that some years back... |
| 23:03.41 | ``Erik | and time to upgrade is also a factor *shrug* |
| 23:03.44 | starseeker | hands ``Erik a nickel to buy a bigger hard drive with... |
| 23:03.48 | ``Erik | heh |
| 23:04.19 | ``Erik | amusingly, I have broken 80, 120 and 250 gig drives downstiars, but this old 20g simply won't die |
| 23:04.29 | starseeker | heh |
| 23:05.19 | ``Erik | fight software bloat! viva le effeciency! |
| 23:10.33 | ``Erik | hehehehhee http://failbook.com/2010/06/13/funny-facebook-fails-sometimes-stop-talking/ |
| 23:10.34 | starseeker | no problem - just rewrite the world in Lisp ;-) |
| 23:14.03 | ``Erik | some day O.o :D |
| 23:14.13 | ``Erik | wonders how movitz is doing |
| 23:19.05 | ``Erik | heh, the world must be a very twisted place... just saw a commercial for a tv show named "masterchef", first thing I thought was halo's master chief cooking... so I googled... http://www.sharenator.com/Master_Chief/ |
| 23:37.33 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39599 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/lessons/es/ (27 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:37.34 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: add the rest of the english-to-spanish lesson translations to date from Jesica |
| 23:37.34 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: Giudice. included are lessons 4, 5, 7, & 8. WOO HOO!.. only 5 remaining! |
| 23:37.35 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: lessons applied without modification except for 7, which had to be re-encoded |
| 23:37.35 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: for utf-8. may still need more work but xsltproc seems happier now. |
