| 00:09.33 | brlcad | interesting .. most of the ps files I've looked at are graphics window wireframes so they are proper vector |
| 00:56.56 | CIA-51 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39627 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/ (167 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:56.57 | CIA-51 | BRL-CAD: split the mged.sh shar up into its multiple constituent files. this can help |
| 00:56.57 | CIA-51 | BRL-CAD: make ensure that doc updates are greppable and replaceable in a localized |
| 00:56.58 | CIA-51 | BRL-CAD: context. forced eol-style native on our ps files since they're text by applying |
| 00:56.58 | CIA-51 | BRL-CAD: before mime-type is set. |
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| 06:23.44 | csanyipal | Hi, |
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| 07:48.17 | csanyipal | I have just installed BrlCAD from downloaded tarball brlcad-7.16.8.tar.bz2 |
| 07:49.19 | csanyipal | I have installed it with commands: autogen.sh, ./configure, make, sudo make install |
| 07:50.00 | csanyipal | I started Archer and try to save a new file.g but get error message: |
| 07:50.30 | csanyipal | Unsupported display manager type -ogl |
| 07:51.15 | csanyipal | what can I do to solve this problem? I suppose I must to configure somehow and install it again? |
| 07:51.50 | csanyipal | My system is Debian GNU/Linuy Lenny. |
| 07:51.59 | csanyipal | Linux |
| 08:58.07 | csanyipal | I just tried to configure after 'make clean' with './configure --disable-ogl' and then install brlcad (make, sudo make install) but |
| 08:58.51 | csanyipal | archer complain again for 'Unsupported display manager type -ogl' |
| 08:58.54 | csanyipal | Why? |
| 08:59.09 | csanyipal | How can I resolve this problem? |
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| 11:43.05 | ``Erik | archer is very experimental and not recommended for normal use... if you really want to do it, you need to use the --enable-opengl or --enable-ogl option when you run configure |
| 11:43.21 | ``Erik | mged is the supported gui right now |
| 11:43.56 | csanyipal | ``Erik: OK Thanks! |
| 11:44.31 | csanyipal | I'm being working with Mged. :) |
| 11:46.39 | ``Erik | the princepal for archer doesn't hop on irc, but starseeker shares an office with him and knows a fair bit more than I do about it... might wanna wait a few hours and talk to him if you are interested in that aspect *shrug* :) |
| 11:51.57 | csanyipal | ``Erik: OK but I'm not interested in that aspect *shrug* because I just want to create some object with Mged: actually an anti gnat screen frame for my windows here. |
| 11:52.10 | csanyipal | :) |
| 11:53.25 | ``Erik | okie :) hm, anit-gnat screen frame? interesting :) if you're familiar with TCL, the mged prompt is actually an extended tclsh, which should make it fairly easy to generate stuff like the mesh wires, frame lengths, etc |
| 11:54.27 | ``Erik | if you get the urge, http://more.brlcad.org was set up as a model repository where people can contribute stuff, too :D |
| 11:55.29 | csanyipal | For me it's a pleasure to model with Mged so I think I shall create it my self. is it possible to export the finished model to QCAD format? |
| 11:56.20 | ``Erik | I don't know what format qcad uses, but I'd imagine there's some intermediate format that we can export and qcad can read O.o try "ls /usr/brlcad/bin/g-*" for the list |
| 11:56.34 | csanyipal | QCAD uses DXF-files. |
| 11:57.16 | ``Erik | yup, we have g-dxf ... |
| 11:57.51 | csanyipal | so what does it mean? |
| 11:58.22 | ``Erik | it's a converter that changes BRL-CAD geometry to a DXF file |
| 11:58.37 | csanyipal | :) It's promising.. |
| 11:58.40 | ``Erik | probably as a bunch of triangles |
| 11:59.36 | ``Erik | yeah, as triangles :/ |
| 11:59.53 | ``Erik | or rather, polygons |
| 12:01.03 | csanyipal | OK I'm going now to create my AntiGnatScreenFrame model.. and if I get it I shall put it on http://more.brlcad.org :) |
| 12:01.42 | ``Erik | sweet :D good luck! |
| 12:01.59 | csanyipal | Thanks! :D |
| 12:17.29 | ``Erik | huh, nifty, that lotus is almost as fast as an m3 O.o :D |
| 12:25.23 | ``Erik | (on the top gear track, a fair bit slower top speed, 163 vs 189) |
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| 13:31.16 | dtidrow | ``Erik: which lotus? |
| 13:33.20 | ``Erik | the new evora |
| 13:33.31 | ``Erik | brlcad pasted a link to the top gear treatment on youtube |
| 13:34.13 | dtidrow | how long ago? |
| 13:34.42 | ``Erik | uh, yesterday? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHcLP0wvENQ |
| 13:35.28 | dtidrow | so much for searching the log -ty :-) |
| 13:36.56 | dtidrow | crud - will have to watch later, got a dentist appt. in a few minutes |
| 13:37.52 | ``Erik | heh, piss the dentist off and watch it on your phone while he/she/it works ;> *duck* |
| 13:47.53 | Stattrav | ``Erik: you bought a lotus evora ? |
| 13:51.43 | ``Erik | hell no |
| 13:51.53 | ``Erik | <-- pets his m3 :D |
| 13:52.29 | ``Erik | I don't think the evora is even buyable yet |
| 13:53.36 | ``Erik | my next vehicle will probably be a small pickup truck |
| 13:57.14 | Stattrav | lol |
| 13:57.53 | Stattrav | takes his bycycle out for a trip and stare awkwardly at women outside the pubs :P |
| 13:58.22 | ``Erik | when I was shopping, I had a short list of some damn nifty cars, I think the 'pedestrian' appearance of the m3 may've been the clincher.... less cop attention and all... less ricers showing how small their dicks are, etc |
| 13:58.55 | ``Erik | <-- wishes he lived in a place where a bicycle was acceptable transportation :( |
| 13:59.22 | ``Erik | 33 km between my front door to my office :( |
| 13:59.36 | Stattrav | well here they arent. but that is the only means of transportation. I have a motorbike but the doc asked me not to drive a motorbike |
| 13:59.44 | Stattrav | woah thats far |
| 14:00.01 | ``Erik | a significant portion on windy roads with no shoulder and fucktards in SUV's driving way over the limit, who don't bump out for side traffic |
| 14:00.37 | Stattrav | woah MD right |
| 14:00.55 | ``Erik | the US is a very young area, our cities are not built like the rest of the world |
| 14:01.08 | ``Erik | so no, my drive is NOT very far in US standards, ... :/ |
| 14:01.38 | ``Erik | I have a shorter drive than I beleive any of the irc lurking office mates here... :D |
| 14:02.24 | Stattrav | lol my drive is 20km a side and thankfully i am on leave from the university till the gsoc season ends |
| 14:03.03 | ``Erik | if I'd have known that brlcad was not going to do the BRL-CAD gsoc admin this year, I woulda :/ |
| 14:03.29 | ``Erik | I think that even if the program is a net loss in the short term, it's still a net gain in the long term |
| 14:03.43 | Stattrav | :) sure do the next year, i shall be apply |
| 14:03.56 | ``Erik | ah well, que sera sera |
| 14:04.18 | Stattrav | net loss in terms of time commitments for you folks ? |
| 14:04.22 | ``Erik | yeah |
| 14:04.52 | ``Erik | we can code, or we can try to help newbies figure out how to code... |
| 14:05.26 | Stattrav | aah |
| 14:05.31 | ``Erik | in short term producitivity analysis, 'training' is a huge drain... but if you don't have it, attrition destroys you |
| 14:05.56 | Stattrav | ohh |
| 14:06.08 | ``Erik | at some point, you need to stop being productive and teach someone else how to be productive... or it ends |
| 14:06.18 | ``Erik | *shurg8 |
| 14:07.16 | ``Erik | BRL-CAD is old enough to have actually suffered that pain as a software project... :) |
| 14:07.37 | Stattrav | :) i get it. i sure hope to get to know things by then if i have to apply. I am right now reading up on various geometric modeling and visual representation papers for my RA ship with a prof here |
| 14:08.07 | ``Erik | also; when I started on it, I carried the phrase "hit by a bus" as a reason to pass knowledge, that grated on people I think as the ueber-guru was taken by a traffic accident just a couple years prior |
| 14:08.37 | Stattrav | lol |
| 14:09.32 | ``Erik | annoys me that they actually took the pain and didn't learn from it, just was angry that it'd happened :( |
| 14:10.14 | ``Erik | at the time... I think things are a lot better now, I think starseekers "zomfg dox!!!" attitude is pushing things in teh right way *shrug* |
| 14:10.45 | Stattrav | :) |
| 14:11.07 | ``Erik | so you're going for a doctorate? |
| 14:12.13 | Stattrav | yeah right now, I shall be working as an RA for year and then apply for masters at IISc, Bangalore then go for a phd in the US |
| 14:12.33 | ``Erik | have you selected a school int he US to try for yet? |
| 14:12.54 | ``Erik | I imagine that'd shape how you work your MS |
| 14:14.27 | ``Erik | harvard and princeton look nice on paper, I d'no if they offer much for development... ucb, mit, cmu, ... I think those're the zomfg schools for computer science and graphics |
| 14:14.46 | ``Erik | unc/ch seems to be a bit of a name, too |
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