| 00:18.58 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39637 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/tclDecls.h: quell strict compilation failures reintroduced with the update to 8.5.8 without the r38389 quellage. |
| 00:20.41 | brlcad | starseeker: did you update any other external deps recently, or just tcl/tk? |
| 00:26.10 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39638 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: document the updates to tcl/tk since 8.5.1 including the intermediate update to 8.5.6 on 2009-02-13, and now the update to 8.5.8; update supports mac platform support and new archer gui developments. |
| 02:13.37 | starseeker | brlcad: I believe just tcl/tk, not counting the openNURBS thing a while back and adding tktable |
| 02:14.19 | starseeker | nuts, sorry - thought I had forwarded ported all the necessary changes |
| 02:31.41 | starseeker | OOoooo. Category Theory in Isabelle/HOL - http://afp.sourceforge.net/entries/Category2.shtml |
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| 03:26.20 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39639 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-ogl.c: USE_PROTOTYPES should not be used any more |
| 03:34.38 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39640 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ (fb.h fbio.h): ws cleanup |
| 03:53.47 | brlcad | yukonbob: that could be some custom ray-shooter, but it sounds a bit like you're wanting something like the UV coordinates of a model printed in 2D |
| 03:55.06 | brlcad | or just not understanding what it is you're trying to accomplish |
| 03:56.02 | brlcad | if you just want a 2D ouline of the model, you'd just rtedge it and add some labels to the image |
| 03:58.04 | Ralith | the UV thing sounds closest to what he described |
| 04:11.13 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39641 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (mged.c mged.h set.c setup.c): remove mged_variable_setup() as it's not used. quell warnings while trampling through. |
| 04:13.24 | brlcad | yeah |
| 04:16.26 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39642 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/setup.c: only delete it if the original pointer is non-null |
| 04:17.52 | brlcad | starseeker: on a quick test of head, 'red' still doesn't seem to do anything |
| 04:19.10 | CIA-42 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39643 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: red tested. doesn't work. must be unbusted before release. |
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| 12:19.18 | starseeker | brlcad: yeah, I'm getting reports of that - I plan to tackle it today |
| 12:20.15 | starseeker | mutters under his breath... red has been busted since v5 was introduced, wonder that it didn't wipe out data... |
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| 13:38.24 | brlcad | ~seen kanzure |
| 13:38.26 | ibot | kanzure <bryan@dhcp-84-36.me.utexas.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 125d 16h 38m 29s ago, saying: 'ah maybe http://brlcad.org/xref/source/src/librt/primitives/'. |
| 13:53.09 | brlcad | wonders if d-lo is going to do anything else with mkbuilding .. start of something interesting there! |
| 14:14.43 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39644 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (Makefile.am metaballs.pl): |
| 14:14.44 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: include an example procedural geometry generator perl script from tom browder |
| 14:14.44 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: that helps create metaballs. script takes a simple text input and produces an |
| 14:14.45 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: mged tcl script. I modified the script slightly to catch and quiet db_lookup |
| 14:14.45 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: kill failures. |
| 14:31.49 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39645 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_tree.c: make sure ma_color is valid before printing it |
| 15:33.15 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39646 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/metaballs.pl: fix the HERE ws destruction. specify warnings with a use statement instead of via the -w argument for implementations of env that don't support arguments. |
| 16:13.20 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39647 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/ (Makefile.am spiral.pl): |
| 16:13.20 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: add another contributed perl script that generates geometry. this script, from |
| 16:13.21 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: bryan bishop (aka kanzure) generates a 'gear spiral' with teeth. presently |
| 16:13.31 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: generates overlapping regions, but the basic shape is there. script was |
| 16:13.31 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: provided from bryan and put into the public domain. |
| 16:15.35 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39648 10/brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: special thanks to bryan bishop for his example spirals.pl procedural geometry perl script. not a code contribution to a completed feature or existing code, hence special thanks categorization. |
| 16:43.05 | starseeker | er... if ged_red is now the red command functionality, what is red.c doing in src/mged? |
| 16:43.48 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39649 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spiral.pl: |
| 16:43.49 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: cleanup. enable perl warnings, remove unnecessary comments, cleanup formatting, |
| 16:43.50 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: test for objects before creating them (probably should just delete the file or |
| 16:43.50 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: abort early). create combs instead of regions since they overlap. |
| 16:46.50 | starseeker | investigates... |
| 16:56.30 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39650 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spiral.pl: test if spiral.g exists so we don't have to test for each object existing. |
| 17:01.28 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39651 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spiral.pl: create a proper region |
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| 17:54.12 | brlcad | hello packrat |
| 17:54.20 | brlcad | and mafm :) |
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| 17:54.46 | packrat | sup |
| 17:57.24 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39652 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: edcomb command also seems to be busted, similar to red -- doesn't seem to do anything. at least, testing showed no changes applied to geometry and it would crash if you provided one less arg than expected. |
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| 17:59.39 | kanzure | brlcad: btw, i didn't mean to imply that you had an affiliation with OpenCASCADE |
| 17:59.46 | kanzure | obviously it was a typo and i meant to say BRL-CAD |
| 17:59.53 | kanzure | "Btw, if you want to integrate STEP into OpenCASCADE, you should" <-- where the typo occured |
| 18:00.11 | kanzure | do you have a copy of NIST SCL that actually compiles? :) |
| 18:01.21 | mafm | hi |
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| 18:29.32 | brlcad | kanzure: no problem, wasn't sure if it was a typo or not |
| 18:30.04 | brlcad | we have a copy in src/other/step that should compile |
| 18:30.46 | brlcad | it's now a required part of our build, that's part of the reason why we took over its maintenance (we need it, nist is done with it) |
| 18:39.39 | kanzure | neato |
| 18:39.43 | kanzure | well, props to you guys for doing that |
| 18:39.55 | kanzure | did the config/make file need to be rewritten? |
| 18:46.06 | brlcad | that was a long time ago, but I believe it did. plus, that was the easiest means to integrate it with our build |
| 18:46.39 | brlcad | previous was a pretty quick build system, not very portable without editing files |
| 18:47.40 | kanzure | thanks for the email |
| 18:47.56 | kanzure | i'm surprised that you're allowed to distribute the STEP docs (even for BRL-CAD purposes or mutual development efforts) |
| 18:48.01 | kanzure | that's amazing and great news |
| 18:49.21 | brlcad | that's because it wouldn't technically be distributing the docs, it's still to "the same group for the same purpose" |
| 18:49.32 | brlcad | that' |
| 18:49.45 | kanzure | right |
| 18:51.11 | brlcad | hence the need for it to be a brl-cad purpose, and we'd probably have to craft a simple agreement that makes that explicit just in case some dev posted the specs up on limewire and iso came hunting us down with a legal attack |
| 18:51.21 | kanzure | sure |
| 18:51.41 | kanzure | i have the EXPRESS files already |
| 18:51.47 | kanzure | is there "Other Stuff"? |
| 18:51.54 | kanzure | you mentioned pdf files and ps files? do they have anything useful/interesting in them |
| 18:52.01 | brlcad | most of the open source community has been unaware/ignorant of STEP until recent years |
| 18:52.32 | kanzure | bah, most people don't even know the difference between CSG/constraint-based-modeling/solids and mesh is |
| 18:52.42 | brlcad | partly because of the licensing cost (I mean, *damn*) .. |
| 18:52.53 | kanzure | iso.org sells 10303 specs for $350/ea |
| 18:53.13 | brlcad | but also just complexity .. it's meant to solve everything and most people care about their tiny niche problem of the moment |
| 18:53.22 | brlcad | I call it "the union of all cad formats" |
| 18:54.10 | brlcad | yeah, ARL spent a couple grand on the specs when we originally started working on STEP |
| 18:54.40 | kanzure | ahh |
| 18:54.45 | kanzure | that's also kinda sad- the military didn't have them already? |
| 18:55.00 | brlcad | had they purchased all of 10303, I think I remember them saying it would have cost something like $20k |
| 18:55.05 | kanzure | hahah |
| 18:55.11 | brlcad | and would have taken up about 50' of bookshelf space if printed |
| 18:55.12 | kanzure | (btw, this is retarded) |
| 18:55.20 | kanzure | oh well |
| 18:55.31 | kanzure | for a while my only option for STEP-related stuff was reading the OpenCASCADE code base |
| 18:55.35 | kanzure | since they have an implementation of STEP |
| 18:55.43 | kanzure | which is not the best way to learn a standard ;) |
| 18:55.48 | brlcad | someone int he military might have already had a copy |
| 18:55.50 | kanzure | i dunno if you've ever looked into their source code |
| 18:55.58 | kanzure | but it's pretty terrible |
| 18:56.03 | brlcad | but then you get into the whole gray licensing area of a "group" and a purpose |
| 18:56.23 | kanzure | well, all of this is making me pretty happy today |
| 18:56.44 | brlcad | intentionally have not ever looked at the opencascade source code as their license is incompatible |
| 18:57.17 | brlcad | i've pretty consistently heard others say it's terrible, though |
| 18:58.18 | kanzure | i have no idea how anyone does development at Matra Datavision / or whatever they call themselves these days |
| 18:59.33 | kanzure | brlcad: ok. i'd like to get the STEP docs, and implement some stuff if i can. but i already have some of the documents, as you know |
| 18:59.46 | kanzure | so i need to make sure this is worthwhile- especially if you need to draft up a document for me to sign or something |
| 18:59.56 | kanzure | if i already have the same files, then it's pointless to draft up a document for me to sign |
| 19:09.26 | brlcad | quite |
| 19:09.50 | brlcad | I'll take a look at what's on archive and compare them to ours, see how close it is |
| 19:10.49 | starseeker | yeah, here's the opencascade license - iirc the having to send modifications back to the original developer is a no go, and possibly the requirement to acknowledge use of the software |
| 19:11.03 | starseeker | http://www.opencascade.org/getocc/license/ |
| 19:11.14 | starseeker | we'll let FreeCAD play with them |
| 19:12.00 | kanzure | freecad has a pretty terrible interface |
| 19:12.04 | kanzure | i suggest http://heekscad.org/ instead |
| 19:12.39 | starseeker | I've never successfully compiled HeeksCAD |
| 19:13.35 | starseeker | FreeCAD definitely has its issues, but I've never been sure how many of those were just due to a non-mature build process |
| 19:14.52 | starseeker | either way, glad to see activity in the open source CAD arena - if openCASCADE has features people can use it's nice to have projects making them available |
| 19:15.08 | starseeker | (we'll eventually crush them all of course :-P) |
| 19:15.25 | kanzure | starseeker: really? HeeksCAD has never given me trouble compiling |
| 19:15.31 | kanzure | are you on osx or something bizarre like that? |
| 19:15.36 | starseeker | Gentoo Linux |
| 19:15.40 | kanzure | huh |
| 19:15.44 | starseeker | it's been a while since I looked at it |
| 19:15.49 | starseeker | they may have improved |
| 19:15.54 | kanzure | i wouldn't expect any problems on gentoo. that's weird. |
| 19:16.02 | starseeker | for a while, just getting openCASCADE working was an adventure |
| 19:16.42 | starseeker | gentoo has been kinda slow to the open source CAD game, in some ways - they've completely ditched QCAD now since it's not been ported to QT4 on the open source side |
| 19:17.06 | kanzure | there should be a package for heekscad now, btw |
| 19:17.10 | kanzure | there's definitely a debian package somewhere |
| 19:17.12 | starseeker | ah, sweeet |
| 19:17.15 | starseeker | will look |
| 19:17.16 | kanzure | debian has a tool called 'alien' to convert foreign packaging formats |
| 19:17.21 | kanzure | i dunno if gentoo has something equivalent |
| 19:17.40 | starseeker | not typically - unless there's no alternative they'll compile things from source |
| 19:17.53 | starseeker | so binary rpms and debs are fairly useless |
| 19:18.40 | starseeker | gentoo HATED our use of external libs in the tree, and Fedora is the same way - they want everything broken out |
| 19:19.39 | starseeker | generally we can use external libs OK, but there are some (opennurbs, step, utahrle) where we're pretty much it and there isn't a workable upstream (at least for the use we're making) |
| 19:20.54 | starseeker | I can see their point in some ways, since the worry about security fixes and what not, but it ends up being a real pain all around |
| 19:21.49 | starseeker | BRL-CAD is intended to "just work" when you build it from the tarball |
| 19:25.13 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39653 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/putmat.c: Modify putmat to "get" the matrix if a matrix is not specified. |
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| 19:30.31 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39654 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/ (Makefile.am combmem.c): Added the combmem command for setting/getting a combinations members. |
| 19:31.17 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39655 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/ged_obj.c: Added combmem to the command table. |
| 19:33.17 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39656 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl: Added a method for combmem. |
| 19:36.44 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39657 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/wdb_obj.c: remove dead code. old style and at least some of the functions referenced don't exist. |
| 19:38.29 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39658 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/wdb_obj.c: quell size_t warnings |
| 19:39.40 | ``Erik | include/ged.h not committed? |
| 19:41.10 | brlcad | prolly not |
| 19:41.17 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39659 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/putmat.c: restructure to see ged_getmat() before using it. clean up indendation and comments, fix constness. |
| 19:41.22 | ``Erik | ah, that was bob |
| 19:43.48 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39660 10/brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h: Added a declaration for combmem. |
| 19:48.06 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39661 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/combmem.c: static/HIDDEN functions should not have a ged_ prefix. instead, use the name of the command/group that they belong to or leave them without prefix. use HIDDEN instead of static when declaring private library functions. |
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| 19:53.01 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39662 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/combmem.c: quell all compilation warnings. shadowing vars, unused vars, and size_t comparisons. |
| 19:53.43 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39663 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/combmem.c: ws consistency indent cleanup |
| 19:54.29 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39664 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/combmem.c: s/GED_GETCOMBTREE/COMBMEM_GETCOMBTREE/g |
| 20:00.41 | kanzure | brlcad: should i send you a directory listing of files that i have re: ISO 10303 from archive.org? |
| 20:11.20 | brlcad | not necessary |
| 20:11.35 | kanzure | okie dokie |
| 20:13.32 | brlcad | woot, http://brlcad.org/tmp/spirot.png |
| 20:13.39 | brlcad | (rotations) |
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| 20:23.15 | brlcad | and http://brlcad.org/tmp/spirot2.png |
| 20:27.09 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39665 10/brlcad/trunk/src/proc-db/spiral.pl: rotate the boxes as we spiral outward creating a box-ish tunnel. angle of rotation is 90 minus arctan(y / x). |
| 20:30.44 | kanzure | awesome. |
| 20:31.03 | kanzure | also, i think one of the things on the todo list for that was a z-axis thing. shouldn't be too hard. |
| 20:31.14 | kanzure | but it's also kinda unnecessary ;) |
| 20:37.22 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39666 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixhalve.c: fix memory corruption on exit. we weren't freeing the right pointers. |
| 20:39.36 | brlcad | who cares about necessary, it's fun ;) |
| 20:40.06 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39667 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: fixed a minor bug in pixhalve where we weren't releasing the memory we allocated properly. now frees the memory and avoids the noisy Deallocation warning on Mac OS X. |
| 20:44.19 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39668 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixhalve.c: cleanup. remove forward decls, quell all warnings, upgrade to size_t. |
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| 20:47.08 | CIA-40 | BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39669 10/brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixhalve.c: plug lil memory leak on exit, free out in/out bufs. |
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| 20:49.41 | brlcad | neat-o: http://brlcad.org/tmp/spirot2.png |
| 20:50.08 | brlcad | calcs aren't quite right, as can be seen in that picture |
| 20:50.16 | brlcad | keypoint is wrong |
| 20:50.33 | brlcad | it's off half the box width |
| 22:04.29 | Ralith | I have no idea what the significance of that is but it's neat looking. |
| 22:50.52 | ``Erik | yowza, that's a lot of rain O.o |
| 22:51.18 | ``Erik | ralith: spiral rotation script written to generate geometry procedurally using perl O.o :) |
| 22:55.39 | ``Erik | damn, now it's hail |
| 22:59.46 | kanzure | :) |
| 23:52.50 | dtidrow | ``Erik: hailing outside there? |
| 23:54.27 | dtidrow | oh, nm - almost an hour ago |
| 23:55.21 | dtidrow | looks like the mid-atlantic region is getting clobbered |
