IRC log for #brlcad on 20100712

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01:15.03 ``Erik http://wookieepedia.org/
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11:11.05 d-lo Mernin all!
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16:11.09 yukonbob hello, #brlcad
16:48.12 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39804 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/red.c: Cool, REG_STARTEND seems to work.
18:07.03 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39805 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/red.c: Tweak the floating point matching.
18:08.03 starseeker wonders if a bu_regex.h header with various useful regex strings might be in order...
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22:06.17 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39806 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/red.c: Successfully use a loop to iterate through all the float hits in the file - thanks Erik for help with the float regex.
22:21.31 starseeker hmm - [:blank:] doesn't seem to work...
22:24.34 starseeker oh, wait...
22:32.40 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39807 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/red.c: OK, to get the blank character set you need [[:blank:]], not [:blank:]
22:43.00 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39808 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/red.c: Successful regex match of a whole matrix.
22:46.07 ``Erik w00t
22:48.56 yukonbob ``Erik: you maintain the FBSD port for brlcad?
22:49.17 ``Erik yeah
22:49.22 ``Erik whyfor?
22:51.05 yukonbob brlcad ships w/ all it's deps; for the port, do you simply build these (for example, Tcl + Tk), or do you -not- build them as part of the brlcad build, and use the dependencies in ports to include (for example) ports/lang/tcl (or whatever it is)?
22:51.55 ``Erik I try to use as many system ports as possible
22:52.07 ``Erik lots of --disable-xxx in the configure line
22:52.24 ``Erik http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/cad/brlcad/Makefile?rev=1.44
22:52.26 yukonbob nods -- I don't have it in front of me, but I'll review that work...
22:52.30 yukonbob ya...
22:52.42 yukonbob as I was typing that last line I figured I could find it via the interwebs :)
22:52.56 ``Erik :D
22:53.25 yukonbob had an extremely stripped version of brlcad running on NetBSD, before the shift to tcl/tk 8.5b -- that's where I fell off
22:53.37 ``Erik um, the only real tricky part was the version strictness for tcl, towards the end there's a post-patch line ya might need to consider if you're doing a package
22:54.09 ``Erik (even using system tcl, that init.tcl gets pulled in somewhere)
22:54.21 yukonbob ...and I really want to get back on, but ideally, it'd be only the original brlcad code that'd be compiled, and the rest would be pkgsrc dependencies... but it's tricky.
22:54.38 yukonbob I think I'm going to start bothering this channel more w/ build questions as I work through them :)
22:54.50 yukonbob nods.
22:54.50 ``Erik um, the incrtcl we use is modified, half from cvs
22:54.58 yukonbob :P
22:55.11 ``Erik (dunno if we actually use incr anymore, though... be nice to drop it)
22:55.13 yukonbob ah -- I'm recalling there is (was?) a custom widget...
22:55.27 ``Erik eyah, uh, a bezier canvas
22:55.39 ``Erik that was eliminated a while back, with 8.5 or something
22:56.31 yukonbob either way, glad to know your approach is similar to what I'm driving for. Will be pinging you :)
22:56.37 ``Erik yuh oh
22:57.10 ``Erik make uh, starseeker fix stuff, he's the one who likes to make life difficult for pkg maintainers... :D
22:57.25 ``Erik tosses the hot potato :D
22:57.43 yukonbob ;)
22:58.26 starseeker ``Erik: Uh, isn't Bob making extensive use of itcl/itk in Archer?
22:59.09 yukonbob I could go on and on and on about what a bad move I think going to 8.5 was, while it was in beta :) -- if I can get back on the train, though, I'll be a happy guy and can start complaining with a reference pkg in place ;)
22:59.38 starseeker <snort> - We need the modern widgets for the new GUI work
23:00.08 starseeker from the OSX standpoint, we'll probably have to push hard to figure out itcl/itk + tcl 8.6 + Aqua at some point
23:00.29 starseeker the ttk tree widget has some warts even in 8.4
23:00.31 starseeker er 8.5
23:01.28 yukonbob doesn't care about tk, when I'm in mged ;)
23:01.53 starseeker classic mode fan?
23:02.07 yukonbob it's just so damned easy :)
23:02.13 yukonbob type what you want, and it's done
23:02.37 yukonbob I haven't used archer, but I never had an aversion to mged like apparently so many do...
23:02.51 yukonbob it's understandable that mged might freak some ppl out, but I'm not one of them...
23:03.17 yukonbob if archer give a cli, then it'd be nice to, I'm sure...
23:03.21 yukonbob *gives a cli
23:04.14 yukonbob but it's all academic before I have an installation up/running -- I've threatened to get it going again before. Hopefully this time I finish.
23:06.53 starseeker nods
23:11.37 ``Erik heh
23:26.33 ``Erik prepares GNU's next advertising blitz... "yo dawn, I hurd you like hird, so I put hurd in your hird in your hurd!"
23:26.42 ``Erik bada-tish
23:28.02 starseeker who let him near the liquor store?
23:29.10 ``Erik heh, not tonight :) too busy dorking with ogre/okra/etc
23:30.13 ``Erik mebbe I shoulda, a couple drinks to get to the 'ballmer peak' and make it work O.o :D
23:30.45 starseeker so Ogre's like quantum physics? Makes more sense with more drinks?
23:30.50 ``Erik http://xkcd.com/323/
23:31.34 starseeker hehe
23:33.01 starseeker it's as good an explanation as any
23:33.44 ``Erik huh, wow, that's more than I woulda guessed O.o http://www.attorneydwi.com/bacperdrink.html find your ballmer peak! w00t

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