IRC log for #brlcad on 20100721

00:06.22 ``Erik has anyone updated their iphone to 4.0.1 today?
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02:06.13 brlcad nopes
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02:46.12 starseeker eyes the VTK build scripts... I think I'm going to be very glad these exist, since they seem to be doing a lot of the same sorts of stuff we'll need...
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08:43.03 Alexandrus moin();
08:43.25 Alexandrus i continue my tries to get brlcad to compile on win
08:43.57 Alexandrus current issue: finding pngvcrd.c and pnggccrd.c
08:44.03 Alexandrus (or their replacements)
09:03.55 Alexandrus libpng compiles after fixing libz
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09:38.52 Alexandrus current state: trying to understand linker errors in libItk
09:39.19 Alexandrus log for all issues: http://pastebin.org/410607
09:59.59 Alexandrus libITK compiles after adding two dependencies...
10:08.03 ``Erik what did you do to 'fix' libz? is it something we could incorporate into the build?
10:08.24 Alexandrus i added the paths manually
10:08.34 Alexandrus ..\..\..\brlcadInstall\bin and lib
10:08.43 ``Erik (the general reaction of all the developers to using windows is generally a nosferatu exposed to sun screaching)
10:08.46 Alexandrus guess this isn't a real libz error
10:09.03 Alexandrus lets drop the windows thing at the moment
10:09.25 Alexandrus i am not a developer, just looking for little stuff
10:09.26 ``Erik on MacosX, linux or freebsd, it should "just work"
10:09.52 Alexandrus bad luck, at the moment i have a win machine here
10:10.07 Alexandrus i am in libged
10:10.20 Alexandrus and can't find a _db5_standarize_avs"
10:10.31 Alexandrus somewhere in _build_comb
10:10.44 ``Erik my condolances :) I'm not saying to switch os's, just explaining why windows support is inadequate
10:10.45 Alexandrus i greped for it, but with little success
10:10.53 Alexandrus yes, i know
10:10.59 ``Erik um, should it be db5_standardize_avs ?
10:10.59 Alexandrus i offer my support as much as i can
10:11.11 Alexandrus 1>red.obj : error LNK2019: Verweis auf nicht aufgelöstes externes Symbol "_db5_standardize_avs" in Funktion "_build_comb".
10:11.24 ``Erik ah, deutch even
10:11.32 Alexandrus ja, stupid
10:11.37 Alexandrus i should have picked english
10:12.03 ``Erik the build shouldn't care, but we don't do any i18n or l10n
10:12.17 Alexandrus i don't know what i18n or l10n is
10:12.27 ``Erik internationalization and localization
10:12.32 Alexandrus ah:)
10:12.47 ``Erik "i, then 18 letters, then an n" ... :)
10:13.12 Alexandrus kind of a game to guess
10:13.22 Alexandrus J5n
10:13.23 Alexandrus :P
10:13.26 ``Erik linux stuff... it's all a bit... special :)
10:13.53 ``Erik that function SHOULD exist in librt, I'd think... or mebbe libwdb, I think starseeker has been doing stuff related to that
10:14.11 Alexandrus i try a second grep
10:14.12 ``Erik so if you can hang out until he decides to wake up?
10:14.33 Alexandrus i continue to try
10:14.40 Alexandrus without _ i find more
10:14.49 Alexandrus librt..true
10:14.56 ``Erik yeah, the _ prefix is a mac thing
10:15.10 ``Erik it'd be db5_standardize_avs in the code
10:15.13 Alexandrus you know what...i guess there is still a lot to learn about portability
10:15.54 ``Erik there always is
10:16.23 Alexandrus my freepascal programs sometimes suffer too
10:16.25 ``Erik I thought I was very portable writing a plugin based thing in the 90's... in '02, bought a mac, the underscore thing threw me for a loop :/
10:16.35 Alexandrus its kind of a game to get them compile on mac an win
10:17.02 Alexandrus i do not understand the underscore thing
10:17.14 Alexandrus for me its just another character which happens to be allowed in symbols
10:17.17 ``Erik on osX, all library exported symbols have an underscore prefixed
10:18.08 ``Erik if you link normally, it'll try to prefix the name for you
10:18.08 ``Erik kinda like on linux, the kernel exported symbols have two underscores prefixed, iirc
10:18.08 Alexandrus oh, fpc doesn't have this
10:18.11 ``Erik of course not, it's C function stuff we're talking about :D
10:18.18 ``Erik c++ methods are far far uglier
10:18.56 Alexandrus damn, can't find "build_comb"
10:19.12 Alexandrus guess its included
10:20.06 Alexandrus hey, for using c++, the project evolved into something quite usefull:P
10:20.08 ``Erik hm, it's 06:20 here, if you can wait oh, so an hour? I'll drive into work where I have lots of os's available and see if I can help?
10:20.24 Alexandrus why waiting, i can figure out things too
10:20.24 ``Erik heh, most of BRL-CAD is C, the c++ bits are very recent
10:20.51 Alexandrus i wonder, why most CAD programs are so weak in console..
10:21.01 Alexandrus tried autocad, vericad etc etc
10:21.01 ``Erik anyways, time to subject my poor m3 to american roads ;)
10:21.10 Alexandrus see you later
10:21.16 Alexandrus there will be more questions for sure:)
10:40.01 Ralith Alexandrus: because most CAD programs are made by devs ignorant to the Unix philosophy, probably.
10:41.42 Alexandrus i don't think of console as unix
10:41.57 Alexandrus i just hate stupid GUI's with billions of buttons
10:42.33 ``Erik (autocad is a lisp program, dunno vericad, but unix thinking is generally not involved)
10:42.48 ``Erik HUZZAH! my phone works again!
10:43.08 ``Erik (no, not driving yet, wanted to give the phone update another shot)
10:44.14 ``Erik I was all upset thinking I was going to have to drive down to baltimore to get this thing fixed heh :/ stupid effin' apple. *grouse*
10:44.15 Alexandrus learning "static libs" in c/c++..
10:44.38 ``Erik .a files, basically a bunch of .o files in a .tar file
10:44.47 Alexandrus source?
10:44.53 Alexandrus where do you choose which gets published, which not
10:44.58 ``Erik no, compiled
10:45.19 Alexandrus to a .lib here
10:45.23 ``Erik exported API's in C are any that are not listed as 'static'
10:45.32 ``Erik on winderz, they have an 'export' keyword
10:45.44 ``Erik (so in BRL-CAD, we have a BU_EXPORT macro we use)
10:46.25 ``Erik aight, I drive for real now :) bbiab
10:46.28 Alexandrus it looks, like red.c is using a non exported function
10:46.33 Alexandrus ok, see you later:)
10:46.50 Ralith Alexandrus: well, console utils built *without* the unix philosophy are generally pretty useless
10:47.14 Alexandrus i think, today adding a little bit of "oop" would be nice
10:47.22 Alexandrus but its working fine the way it is
10:47.29 Ralith what?
10:47.38 Alexandrus properties for objects
10:48.03 Alexandrus but sure, this isn't unix
10:48.51 Alexandrus hmm.."BU EXPORT BU_EXTERN(void...)"
10:48.55 Alexandrus what a construction
10:50.12 Ralith no idea what you mean
10:51.19 Alexandrus accessing properties of brlcad objects by properties/methods
10:51.40 Alexandrus myobject.translate(3,4,3)
10:51.42 Alexandrus ...
10:51.50 Alexandrus not really important, just an idea
10:57.13 Ralith that's not what OOP is
10:57.46 Alexandrus unification of code and data...
10:58.19 Alexandrus ok, there is more
10:58.24 Alexandrus but i am not here to pass a test:P
11:03.16 Ralith that's *definitely* not what OOP is.
11:03.47 Alexandrus polymorphism
11:03.50 Alexandrus inheritance
11:03.55 Alexandrus abstraction...
11:04.23 Ralith I'm pointing this out because BRL-CAD is, iirc, very OO indeed.
11:05.04 Alexandrus as far as i know, no methods
11:06.08 Alexandrus so for me its like a predecessor, records/structures
11:06.15 Alexandrus internally, i am sure its more oop
11:06.21 Alexandrus but seen from the outside
11:08.35 Alexandrus course one could interpret l as a method of any primitive/object
11:10.35 Alexandrus but polymorphism?..hmm..
11:55.26 ``Erik BRL-CAD is very OO, c++ is not... association of data and function is more of an old school lithp thang
11:55.57 Alexandrus ok...//
11:56.08 Alexandrus lets move to another topic
11:56.20 ``Erik (assuming that c++/java is how to define OO is bad juju, take a look at smalltalk or objc... alan kay (the guy who coined OO) has some harsh stuff to say about c++)
11:56.48 ``Erik the BU_EXPORT/BU_EXTERN mess is due to winderz
11:56.53 Alexandrus fpc is the same here i guess:P
11:57.00 Alexandrus ok, in short
11:57.07 Alexandrus how do i export db5_standardize_avs
11:58.00 Alexandrus declared in db5_types.c
11:58.03 ``Erik what file fails?
11:58.29 ``Erik the only two with reference are librt/db5_types.c and libged/red.c, and red.c has an extern statement at the beginning
11:58.51 Alexandrus http://pastebin.org/410708
11:58.55 Alexandrus scroll to the bottom
11:58.59 Alexandrus its a log about everything i do
11:59.11 Alexandrus yes
11:59.23 Alexandrus now, which way is this supposed to be?
12:00.50 ``Erik hmmmmmm, might require an explicit export in a header to let the linker know to add it to the symbol table (the .lib file on winderz)
12:01.01 Alexandrus i am a noob in c/c++
12:02.55 Alexandrus which header file should it be?
12:03.35 Alexandrus db5.h ?
12:04.29 ``Erik dunno... starseeker seems to think they shouldn't be public
12:04.47 Alexandrus hmm...
12:05.13 ``Erik <-- is firing up a windows machine
12:05.15 Alexandrus is reading build_comb
12:13.25 Alexandrus i guess i have to understand db5 first..
12:19.07 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39862 10/brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: add export lines for functions used in libged for windows
12:20.06 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39863 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/bu.h src/libbu/image.c): add bu_image_save_writepixel for single pixel updates
12:21.51 Alexandrus 23:24
12:21.59 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39864 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/image.c: include vmath.h for VMOVE
12:22.00 Alexandrus (success : fail)
12:22.44 Alexandrus 24:23
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12:45.34 Alexandrus hmm...
12:45.42 Alexandrus moin stattrav
12:46.48 ``Erik huh, a liboptical failure that looks like my fault O.o
12:47.32 Alexandrus its quite difficult to read through this
12:48.38 Alexandrus what about the db5_standardize?
12:50.08 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39865 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/liboptical/liboptical.vcproj: add sh_toon.c
12:50.09 ``Erik the commit I did to raytrace.h fixes that for me using msvc8
12:50.31 Alexandrus i try compiling
12:50.53 Alexandrus 9:0
12:52.33 Alexandrus as far as i can see, there are still mistakes
12:52.44 Alexandrus but it might be cause of my changes
12:52.51 Alexandrus still 22 fail
12:53.00 Alexandrus i just copy the misc folder again and try
12:56.34 Alexandrus "libraries" and "Other" is invalid
12:56.58 Alexandrus Visual C++ 2008, Version 9.0.21022.8 RTM
12:57.23 Alexandrus and its raining errors
13:06.11 Alexandrus http://pastebin.org/410744 <- error log
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13:12.23 sofleo hello, please could someone explain how to use the adc control panel? I vould give a point an angle and a tick distance. I would see the coordinates where the tick is placed, is it possible? I don't know if I made myself clear.
13:13.18 sofleo is there some documentation about it?
13:14.31 Alexandrus sry, softleo...i don't know what the adc control panel is..
13:15.08 Alexandrus _ged_combmem in libtclcad makes trouble
13:15.38 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39866 10/brlcad/trunk/ (11 files in 5 dirs): spelling mistake... vegitation->vegetation.
13:16.23 sofleo I meant the angle distance cursor control panel
13:19.49 Alexandrus i managed to switch it on...don't know what it could be usefull for
13:19.55 Alexandrus but i am only a new user:)
13:21.20 sofleo ah, ok
13:21.26 sofleo thank you anyway
13:21.51 Alexandrus if you are patient...some are active here
13:22.18 sofleo I will wait patiently :-)
13:29.46 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39867 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/ged_obj.c: include ged.h for ged_combmem
13:30.23 Alexandrus did this really compile on msvc8?
13:31.06 ``Erik at one point, yes
13:31.18 Alexandrus update, recompile..
13:31.29 ``Erik even had an msvc9 compile at one point... but... we don't do winderz :D so it's the red headed stepchild here
13:31.46 Alexandrus now he complains..
13:32.45 Alexandrus 4>LINK : fatal error LNK1181: Eingabedatei "libtclcad.lib" kann nicht geöffnet werden.
13:32.47 Alexandrus this again..
13:33.37 Alexandrus ged_obj.c has ged.h included
13:33.55 Alexandrus still this _ged_combmem thing
13:33.58 Alexandrus (msvc9)
13:35.52 Alexandrus this compilation stuff takes ages
13:37.03 ``Erik bob (the guy who used to keep the windows side up to date) is working on stuff now
13:37.22 Alexandrus whats his name here?
13:39.51 Alexandrus @''Erik: softleo had a question about angle distance cursor
13:42.31 Alexandrus i am trying with msvc8 now...
13:42.53 Alexandrus (even vista claims, its not compatible)
13:44.13 Alexandrus result is even worse ...
13:44.18 Alexandrus 2:60
13:45.34 ``Erik yeah, uh, I, uh, that's in the gui part, right? I don't know that stuff :D
13:45.44 Alexandrus oh, how do you compile it?
13:45.52 Alexandrus i just opened the project file
13:46.19 sofleo :-)
13:46.55 ``Erik starseeker and brlcad are the two who know stuff about the gui, and this is early for them.. :)
13:47.31 Alexandrus how do you compile? with make?
13:47.35 Alexandrus there is an .am file
13:48.30 ``Erik on anythingbutwindows, it's a typical configure/make project
13:49.07 Alexandrus still, you got it compiling somehow
13:50.48 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r39868 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/libged/libged.vcproj: add combmem
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14:07.52 Alexandrus 4 errors missing..
14:08.03 Alexandrus (still present)
14:09.43 Alexandrus in mged\setup.c(433) not declared: vls
14:13.25 Alexandrus struct bu_vls vls; added to cmd_setup
14:14.39 Alexandrus fixed it, guessing its supposed to be temp...but just a guess
14:16.30 Alexandrus compiled...success!
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14:31.19 brlcad sofleo: run "adc help" in the command window
14:31.49 brlcad you can use the adc command to get/set exact distances
14:32.15 brlcad you'll also probably want to turn on Misc -> Faceplate
14:32.22 brlcad it will provide a status bar in the graphics window
14:32.30 brlcad with the current adc values
14:32.54 sofleo hello, yes i did it and I'm reading the help and also the introduction to MGED tutorial.
14:33.08 sofleo my question is
14:33.24 sofleo I put the adc cursor in a specified position of my model
14:33.43 sofleo then I set an angle and then a tick distance
14:33.56 sofleo I would retrieve the tic position
14:34.00 sofleo is it possible?
14:34.02 brlcad Alexandrus: the code changes very quickly with about a half-dozen developers hitting different portions on a constant basis, so the build for all platforms has to be continually updated
14:35.13 brlcad "adc dst" ?
14:35.24 Alexandrus i am just glad it compiled once
14:35.40 brlcad sofleo: not sure I understand your question, but the subcommands can be used to set AND get values
14:36.03 sofleo I would retrieve the x and y coordinates of the tick position
14:37.00 Alexandrus @brlcad: i think i learned a few things, i might be able to get it compiling even after some changes
14:37.50 sofleo brlcad: probably I arlready know the answer, is it possible to put quotes on the model?
14:38.04 sofleo I would measure the model
14:39.17 sofleo another question, at the end of my design job I would retrieve a list of pieces composing my model, is there a way to do this?
14:47.23 brlcad sofleo: the problem with reporting a tick position is that there are 12 of them
14:47.49 brlcad you can query any specific one of them using query ray though
14:47.57 sofleo brlcad: yes I understand, you are right
14:48.11 brlcad Settings -> Mouse Behavior -> Query Ray
14:48.15 brlcad then
14:49.26 sofleo then ...
14:49.51 brlcad sorry, multitasking -- click second mouse button to query the point under your mouse
14:50.04 brlcad er, maybe third mouse
14:50.16 brlcad option-click if you're on a one-button
14:50.33 brlcad you'll see "Firing from..." in the comamnd window
14:51.09 brlcad if you hit an object, you'll get the exact in/out distances
14:51.39 brlcad otherwise you can just use the ray setup values to know where you queried
14:51.49 brlcad you'll want to change the mouse behavior back to Default when you're done
14:52.07 brlcad Alexandrus: excellent, maybe you can maintain the windows build then? :)
14:52.50 brlcad sofleo: as for your second question -- that entirely depends on the hierarchy (or lack thereof) that you use to construct your model, but you can certainly get a list of objects or subsets of objects, etc
14:53.27 brlcad if you've used proper modeling practices, you'll have a set of regions (i.e., parts) and groups (i.e., assemblies)
14:53.28 sofleo I use tree command, l command ls command
14:53.52 sofleo I use regions and combination
14:54.13 sofleo what I really need is at the end the bill of material
14:54.37 sofleo I building a garden house for my kids
14:55.59 sofleo at the and I have to go to the wood shop (I don't know the exact word at the moment) and I have to tell them:give 10 pieces long 2merters, 20 pieces long 2.5 meters and so on
14:57.22 brlcad unfortunately, we don't produce bill of material reports directly yet
14:57.51 brlcad you can certainly get at a lot of the same information, just not automatic
14:58.03 sofleo ok, thank you anyway, I like so much brl-cad
14:58.11 brlcad rtarea will report presented/projected areas so you can determine length/widths of objects
14:58.43 brlcad rtweight and gqa calculate weights, centroids, moments of inertia
14:58.45 sofleo before you told me about: ray setup values
14:59.02 sofleo where can I set them
14:59.45 brlcad when you turn on query ray, your mouse cursor is where the ray is fired from
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15:00.26 sofleo sorry but I'm learning step by step, I read some tutorials, but I didn't find any doc like the "brl-cad bible" is there some book to learn brl-cad?
15:01.01 brlcad sofleo: no need to apologize.. it's a LOT to learn, like any CAD package, takes years to learn fully
15:01.18 sofleo yes I agree with you
15:01.19 brlcad the tutorial series is the closest to it
15:01.45 brlcad the 16 intro tutorials, then the principles of effective modeling for some of the more advanced concepts
15:02.43 brlcad then there is custom overview documentation on some of the more complex features like the oed command and nirt
15:05.16 sofleo You spoke about 16 tutorials but I found only 10 pdf
15:05.23 sofleo did I miss something?
15:05.30 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39869 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: three items still pending for release, nirt commands seems to be busted (gives usage). red needs a quick test due to regex swap, and the windows build is undoubtedly still bustaged even after erik's many fixes.
15:07.52 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39870 10/brlcad/trunk/BUGS: .mgedrc is wrong if created without a database open -- qray lines end up horked with 'A database is not open!'
15:09.04 brlcad there are 16 tutorials in the "Introduction to MGED"
15:09.14 brlcad one big pdf
15:09.26 sofleo ah yes, now i understood
15:10.24 sofleo ok, I will read again the introduction to MGED probably I didn't undertstand everything
15:10.36 sofleo thank you for your answers
15:17.55 Alexandrus @brlcad: i could maintain it
15:18.07 Alexandrus but it would be wise to work together at this
15:18.17 Alexandrus so i don't blow up anything:)
15:20.16 Alexandrus also, it should have a new msvc9 folder in misc
15:20.27 Alexandrus since my conversion would screw up any previous one
15:22.11 Alexandrus next issue i have: getting coil into mged
15:22.25 Alexandrus i think i saw something in mged/setup.c
15:30.44 sofleo bye
15:30.48 Alexandrus bye
15:30.50 Alexandrus softleo
15:36.33 brlcad cya softleo!
15:39.32 Alexandrus hmm, "pip" which is in mged isn'T in mged_cmdtab, where is it?
15:40.00 Alexandrus pipe
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16:38.16 brlcad Alexandrus: grep :)
16:43.24 Alexandrus grep gives so many results, i could fill a disk with it
16:43.35 starseeker grep the grep output :-)
16:43.56 starseeker grep pattern stuff | grep nextpattern
16:44.16 Alexandrus if i know a second pattern, i would need one grep only...
16:46.31 Alexandrus greping for """pipe""" is less, points me to points_scan.l
16:56.16 starseeker Hmm - zlib 1.2.5 has it's own CMakeLists.txt file - can I update that and eliminate the need for us to maintain our own?
16:57.29 starseeker (looks like d_rossbert created the one we have in there currently)
17:02.51 Alexandrus takes a break for today
17:18.00 brlcad points scan isn't the right one
17:18.14 brlcad thats for reading point cloud data
17:18.36 Alexandrus yes.., i read it
17:19.19 Alexandrus but i am to tired today to figure out how to get coil into mged
17:19.23 Alexandrus (or is it there allready)
17:19.37 brlcad the proper way is src/libged
17:20.30 brlcad you'd write a ged_coil() function that contains the current binary logic
17:20.56 brlcad that gets hooked in with a simple command table elsewhere
17:21.03 Alexandrus i better have a look at an example first
17:21.10 brlcad look at tire
17:21.12 Alexandrus i opened ged_edcomb
17:21.15 Alexandrus ok, tire
17:21.53 brlcad src/mged/setup.c has that command table
17:22.10 Alexandrus yes, i searched for "pipe" there
17:22.14 brlcad there you see tire calls ged_tire via cmd_ged_plain_)wrapper
17:22.18 Alexandrus trying to understand it a little
17:22.35 brlcad ged_tire does the work, src/libged/tire.c
17:22.49 Alexandrus open
17:22.56 brlcad close
17:23.11 Alexandrus rm -f:P
17:23.32 brlcad Permission denied.
17:23.45 Alexandrus send nuke
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17:34.42 Alexandrus ok, i might try implementing it tomorrow
17:34.45 Alexandrus thanks for all help brlcad
17:34.51 brlcad sure
17:35.01 Alexandrus its 19:34 here
17:35.06 brlcad if you make mods and want to contrib back
17:35.16 brlcad you used svn diff and/or patch beffore?
17:35.33 Alexandrus yes
17:35.38 brlcad cool
17:35.50 brlcad so you can post changes to the patches tracker
17:36.27 brlcad the HACKING file has some more details
17:36.39 Alexandrus hehehe, i just started today...
17:36.44 Alexandrus my head is full of code:P
17:36.49 brlcad awesome :)
17:37.18 Alexandrus actually, i was about to create a little quadcopter modell
17:37.43 Alexandrus design all parts so i can let them manufactured
17:37.54 Alexandrus (thats what i need the coil for)
17:38.03 brlcad cool, cant wait to see it
17:38.34 Alexandrus what do you use brlcad for?
17:39.32 brlcad programming hobby :)
17:39.52 Alexandrus :)
17:41.08 Alexandrus are you part of any 2D cad project too?
17:41.51 brlcad no, brl-cad requires enough time and attention on its own with 3d
17:41.58 Alexandrus true
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20:40.58 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r39871 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db5_types.c: Urk. Trying to alter the avs mid scan didn't work so hot - build a temp copy and replace the original with that.
21:22.31 Alexandrus good night:)
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21:35.46 psilva_ brlcad: siggraph?
21:37.44 brlcad psilva_: yep
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22:22.49 CIA-93 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39872 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac: use ac_configure_args if it is set for reporting the options since configure may clobber '' if it runs set our sources files.

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