IRC log for #brlcad on 20100730

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00:54.03 poolio yukonbob: I was about to link to that article...heh
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03:51.41 starseeker yukonbob: yeah, I know it has the basic mechanisms - but our brlcad_config.h.in itself appears to be generated
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03:52.05 starseeker _yukonbob: yeah, I know it has the basic mechanisms - but our brlcad_config.h.in itself appears to be generated
03:52.57 starseeker unless I'm missing something, which is quite possible
03:57.09 _yukonbob starseeker: ahh...
03:57.18 _yukonbob starseeker: you on the cmake mailing list?
03:57.45 starseeker yeah - just sent a mail asking about it
03:58.01 _yukonbob starseeker: nice... it's an active list
04:00.14 starseeker got a response illustrating how to do what needs doing, which is OK, but having to manually do something autotools does automatically is kinda annnoying
04:00.42 starseeker particularly when I'm trying to see if CMake is a good replacement candidate for autotools + Windows logic...
04:03.37 _yukonbob I really like cmake vs. autotools... I got no traction w/ autotools...
04:03.48 _yukonbob I've got some peeves, but on the whole, it's easy to deal with
04:04.03 starseeker _yukonbob: what are the peeves?
04:04.40 starseeker (our autotools logic is very sophisticated, so a proposed CMake replacement has to be Really Friggin Good...
04:09.49 starseeker notes a fair number of AC_DEFINE and AC_CHECK_TYPE invocations in configure.ac... if I'm understanding autoheader it's using those to do it's thing...
04:12.02 starseeker ponders...
04:12.12 starseeker and notes his laptop is about to die...
04:15.17 _yukonbob starseeker: gonna make me sound like a broken record, but I don't know why they insist on creating their own language from scratch to drive it... embed Tcl already!! Esp. considering Tcl was such an early target for them... they should have know better.
04:15.43 _yukonbob you can see the evolution of language design -- and it's just unnecessary.
04:16.04 _yukonbob doesn't have to be tcl, but something similarly simple and capable. Lua maybe? Dunno...
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20:39.31 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r39974 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/iges/brep.c: Fixed bug where structures were referenced after freed. Added conditional freeing of nmg model structure to not double free the structure. Added cleanup of nmg model structure on successful exit.
21:03.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r39975 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/combmem.c: Added code to allow combmem to set empty combinations.
21:23.48 brlcad is at 30k feet up and connected
21:24.26 brlcad surprisingly decent latenciy .. 150ms to brlcad.org
21:30.38 brlcad Happy Sysadmin Appreciation Day! :)
21:33.46 yukonbob ;)
21:34.08 yukonbob brlcad: you see that interview I posted yesterday w/ rms + "lacking CAD" comment/
21:34.11 yukonbob ?
21:34.40 brlcad yukonbob: yeah, I saw it
21:34.56 brlcad that's more about rms' usual hyperbole to get attention
21:35.10 yukonbob that whole interview was shite...
21:35.12 brlcad instead of something reasonable and doable, something outrageous and pretty much impossible
21:35.25 yukonbob ... I figured it'd be a nice little platform for BRLCAD, though...
21:35.37 yukonbob it'll get lots of eyes...
21:35.55 brlcad yeah, a 3B/year company is going to take their flagship product and just make it open source so they can feel good about themselves
21:37.18 brlcad might as well say macdonalds should just give their food away for free so nobody goes hungry
22:08.33 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r39976 10/brlcad/trunk/src/conv/iges/convassem.c: Fixed bug where structures were referenced after freed.
22:15.02 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39977 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS: richard fixes a couple memory management bugs in the iges code related to nmg structures.
23:27.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39978 10/brlcad/trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs):
23:27.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: partial undo of bob's r39946. we can't assume our libz. instead, make it easy
23:27.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: to pass compilation flags down from our top-level configure using our
23:27.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: BC_WITH_FLAG_ARGS macro. if we set LIBZ_CPPFLAGS, that means we intend to build
23:27.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: it. if we're using ours, we need to be sure to tell the build to look in our
23:27.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: libz directory for the includes and libz.la file or a -lz. this seems to do the
23:27.58 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: trick.
23:46.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r39979 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libwdb/nmg.c:
23:46.57 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: add a FIXME. mk_nmg() and mk_nmg_from_bot() both call wdb_export() which
23:46.58 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: clearly documents that it will free the data passed to it. So in order to
23:46.58 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: protect the parent caller, these routines need to make a copy of the data or
23:46.58 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: wdb_export() needs to have a parameter for specifying what to do with the memory
23:46.58 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: (probably ideal since nmg data can be huge).

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