IRC log for #brlcad on 20100808

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14:49.17 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40033 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/ (CMakeLists.txt src/other/libtermlib/CMakeLists.txt): Take a stab at setting up libtermlib with a CMakeLists file - haven't hooked up any of the other libs to use it yet.
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16:55.26 kanzure someone is asking me why the us government can't produce open source software (i.e. they have to license it in the public domain)
16:55.36 kanzure however, i can't find any good references for this on the net, something that might explain the legal aspects of this
16:55.40 kanzure any hints? anyone here know?
16:58.41 kanzure ooh gnu.org saves the day :) http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLUSGov http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLUSGovAdd
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17:48.19 Ralith kanzure: GPL ≠open source software
17:49.19 Ralith BRL-CAD is an example of US government produced open source software
17:49.38 kanzure GPL is an OSI-approved license for "open source"
17:49.49 kanzure are you arguing otherwise? (just wondering)
17:50.21 Ralith no, I'm saying that whether or not the GPL is applicable is irrelevant to the question of whether or not a piece of software is open souce.
17:50.24 Ralith source*
17:51.18 Ralith the pages you linked thus have nothing to do with your question.
17:51.34 Ralith and your original implication is false
18:52.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40034 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/step/ (4 files in 3 dirs):
18:52.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: Start working on a CMake build system for the step libraries. Not much yet, but
18:52.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: got a build of the express library on gentoo so committing. I doubt the
18:52.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: flex/bison logic is robust yet - the -l flag is not being passed, and will
18:52.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: likely be needed - but getting closer.
18:53.07 starseeker kanzure: If I understand your question, works produced by the US Federal government (under most circumstances) are public domain by default
18:54.02 starseeker the government can have copyright assigned to it for works that have copyright otherwise (for an example of this, see http://dlmf.nist.gov/about/notices
18:56.28 starseeker eer, nevermind - that commit message is wrong - the -l flag IS being passed, just forgot to check with make VERBOSE=1 before committing
18:58.01 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40035 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/step/src/express/CMakeLists.txt: Clean up stray line. Previous commit comment incorrect - -l flag actually was being passed to flex successfully.
18:59.47 starseeker braces himself and starts upgrading his system from gcc 4.3 to gcc 4.4...
19:19.45 kanzure starseeker: ah, didn't know that caveat about other copyrights, thanks
21:04.59 Ralith kanzure: 'public domain' is as open as source can get.
21:06.08 kanzure i see you don't like to use "open source" to mean the infectious share-alike aspects..
21:06.16 kanzure er, there's probably a better way for me to say that
21:06.41 starseeker those licenses represent a subset of what are termed "open-source" licenses
21:07.51 Ralith ^
21:08.05 starseeker http://www.opensource.org/osd.html
21:10.00 kanzure "The license must allow modifications and derived works, and must allow them to be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software."
21:10.17 kanzure you know for the longest time i thought it said "and must be distributed under the same terms as the license of the original software"
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21:44.11 Ralith that wouldn't make any sense at all
22:33.50 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40036 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/step/ (CMakeLists.txt src/exppp/CMakeLists.txt): Add exppp... may want to re-examine the #include statements in these libraries...
22:43.41 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40037 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/step/ (CMakeLists.txt src/fedex_plus/CMakeLists.txt): Add fedex_plus to cmake build
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23:06.02 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40038 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/step/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Add in the rest of the step src dirs, although I'm not sure all the library links are right.
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23:17.44 CIA-43 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r40039 10/brlcad/branches/cmake/src/other/step/src/ (5 files in 5 dirs): Whoops - remember that this needs to function as a subdir build and use the local project root, not the CMAKE root.

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