IRC log for #brlcad on 20101006

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11:32.17 d-lo Mernin all
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13:19.41 d-lo hahaha: http://media.photobucket.com/image/mourning%20shadowbane%20world/rogue_queen69/MMORPG.jpg
14:49.45 brlcad greetings programs
14:51.42 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r40901 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Makefile.am: include DataUtils.tcl in the dist, sort
14:53.40 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r40902 10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/Makefile.am: include new tktable msvc build files in the dist
14:56.44 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r40903 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tkhtml/Makefile.am:
14:56.44 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: technically there are two versions of the cssprop.tcl and tokenlist.txt files.
14:56.44 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: they are 'built' because we have to copy them into the top-level, but they do
14:56.44 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: exist in the src/ subdir so have to list those files as extra dist
17:03.47 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r40904 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/tclIndex: Added entries for DataUtils.
17:05.55 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r40905 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (Archer.tcl ArcherCore.tcl): Removed updateToggleMode from ArcherCore.
17:11.55 ``Erik "Teamwork - Imagine the most retarded thing you could possibly do. Now get forty other people to do that exact same thing with you. It's not retarded anymore, is it?"
19:18.51 brlcad mm.. think I found a suitable output format
19:19.58 brlcad OpenDocument, .odp files .. then just have them use openoffice
20:02.46 ``Erik cool
20:19.40 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r40906 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: render to odf/odt/odp
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21:08.37 starseeker brlcad: That's better than svg + inkscape?
21:09.20 brlcad yeah
21:10.14 brlcad svg doesn't provide a means to preserve constraints, like anchoring an arrow that points at something so if you move the arrow's label, it still points at the intended target
21:10.25 starseeker ah
21:10.45 brlcad opendocument includes vector graphics and more
21:10.50 starseeker O.o kinda was under the impression that svg was huge and had everything...
21:11.04 brlcad going from odf to svg should be pretty straightforward (something we could leave up to OO)
21:11.37 starseeker nods - or take care of later if we want to
21:12.35 starseeker svg might someday have benefits for stright-to-web-gui output, but I suppose most of that can be done with thumbnails
21:14.00 brlcad the other benefit of opendoc is that the users could then export their pretty blueprints straight to .doc or .ppt if they wanted, or whatever other output format supported by OO/LO
21:14.13 starseeker true
21:14.14 brlcad ppt is really what they want now
21:14.37 brlcad odp is the closest open source variant we could easily work with
21:15.35 brlcad could write straight to ppt with some library, but I think our long-term interests are still more flexibly suited with an open (and free) format that they can easily work with
21:15.47 starseeker agreed
21:15.48 brlcad this should work pretty well
21:16.43 brlcad might even get some momentum with a simple library that writes out opendoc files .. none presently exist save for one written in java
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22:16.43 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r40907 10/brlcad/trunk/m4/ (compiler.m4 epsilon.m4): add actions if cross-compiling so configure won't halt. the flags are assumed to work if it compiled as is the sanity test.
22:34.26 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r40908 10/brlcad/trunk/configure.ac:
22:34.26 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: more support for cross-compilation. add the requisite optional parameters for
22:34.26 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: all AC_TRY_RUN macro calls. assume no for everything except x11. x11 defaults
22:34.26 CIA-2 BRL-CAD: to an assumption of yes but can be disabled with a configure flag.
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