IRC log for #brlcad on 20101020

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02:20.19 CIA-42 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41112 10/brlcad/branches/rel8/ (1170 files in 348 dirs): (Hopefully) update rel8 to trunk r41111. Merge was a bit tricky, need to verify.
02:37.45 starseeker eyes PuTTY to see if it can provide a sane command prompt for running BRL-CAD command line utilities...
02:39.25 starseeker blegh. Looks like we'd have to run a local ssh or telnet server for putty to connect to: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/win-command-prompt.html
02:40.17 starseeker I suppose that might actually be possible - couple a customized telnet server tightly to our specific instance of PuTTY...
02:41.59 starseeker hmm... http://www.kpym.com/2/kpym/index.htm
02:42.51 brlcad putty doesn't emultate a tty, it connects to one
02:42.56 brlcad you need something that emulates one
02:44.40 starseeker ah, that was the libraries we were sorting through on freshmeat?
02:46.33 brlcad right
02:46.41 brlcad expect is technically a terminal emulator iirc
02:47.08 brlcad that'd be a potential tcl variant that we could use for other things too
02:47.48 starseeker I thought expect has some problems?
02:48.09 brlcad it's pretty big iirc
02:48.17 brlcad would want to pear it down
02:48.30 starseeker nods
02:48.56 starseeker ah, yes... http://www.nist.gov/el/msid/expect.cfm
02:50.02 starseeker wait... how would expect tie in with PDcurses/libcurses/etc.?
02:51.44 brlcad iirc, expect provides libtermlib/libtermio so libcurses would just sit on top
02:51.59 brlcad although technically curses isn't needed
02:53.19 starseeker so... in principle burst could run inside expect?
02:53.53 starseeker will figure this out some day...
03:00.13 starseeker I'll have to give expect a whirl and see what it can do
03:01.20 starseeker OK, I'm outta here
03:45.05 louipc tclsh no good?
03:52.19 brlcad you need something that emulates a tty
03:52.36 brlcad tclsh just interprets commands, no awareness of tty behavior
03:53.14 brlcad heck, tclsh doesn't even understand basic readline control codes, much less complex tty codes
04:07.36 CIA-42 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41113 10/brlcad/trunk/src/other/tcl/generic/ (tclIntDecls.h tclIntPlatDecls.h): need to be more careful when updating to new version of tcl to get ALL mods so time is not repeatedly wasted fixing the same issues. quell warnings on shadowing time() and clock().
04:08.01 starseeker brlcad: huh. Sorry, thought I got 'em all
04:09.26 brlcad the cool part is now with the c++ constructor shadow warnings fixed, we're completely strictly clean now (except for one file)
04:09.39 brlcad er, and only through core libs
04:09.51 brlcad binaries still need more work
04:10.33 starseeker sweet!
04:11.34 starseeker wonders if it's time to submit a few more patches to the tcl/tk devs
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19:59.57 CIA-42 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41114 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (DataUtils.tcl tclIndex): Added DataUtils::deleteGlobalData for deleting group specific data from a specified _GLOBAL attribute.
20:05.25 CIA-42 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41115 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libpc/ (11 files): fix a slew of compilation problems. includes a bunch of shadow warnings and unordered args but also a missing virtual destructor, exact floating point comparisons, and returning bools where expecting doubles.
20:41.06 brlcad now that's funny
20:41.40 brlcad have a code snippet that actually runs considerably slower if you let gcc optimize
20:41.50 brlcad that's "special"
20:41.53 starseeker O.o
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21:18.40 brlcad is convinced NEAR_ZERO should be changed
21:19.01 brlcad with perhaps the addition of a direct equality comparator for readability
21:49.44 ``Erik pipeline asplosion? cache issue?
22:35.09 brlcad numeric instability

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