IRC log for #brlcad on 20101110

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03:25.29 starseeker hmm: http://en.poderosa.org/present/about_poderosa.html
03:38.14 starseeker http://ttssh2.sourceforge.jp/
03:52.09 starseeker I'm sure there's some good reason this wouldn't work, but why not hook up putty to a local instance of http://www.kpym.com/2/kpym/index.htm and use that as a terminal on Windows?
03:53.19 starseeker wire them together into one program that both launches the telnetd backend and hooks up putty to it?
04:48.37 brlcad starseeker: poderosa is written in c# (.net)
04:49.42 brlcad hooking up an ssh client like putty or one of the others to a local ssh server is a viable solution .. just more involved from a management perspective
04:50.50 brlcad more complicated to make it all work seemlessly, hidden, and cleanly .. complicated install (needs to install a network service), complicated to run (needs permission to run the ssh server), tricky to get it all to fire up cleanly without user intervention
04:50.56 brlcad doable, though :)
04:51.13 brlcad I was looking at one of the tiny ssh daemons for windows a couple weeks ago for that exact purpose
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12:20.44 d-lo Mernin all
12:34.13 brlcad howdy
12:37.50 d-lo find any more performance impacting silliness?
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12:58.24 brlcad d-lo: not really
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13:28.43 starseeker brlcad: ah, so the network service part is integral to providing a viable terminal for putty? I was kinda wondering if we could sorta "fake it" and do it all inside the program...
13:42.50 brlcad starseeker: give it a go, maybe not
13:43.02 brlcad they might have implemented support for other methods
13:43.44 brlcad the trick is still having the right terminal I/O processing so that things will get handled properly
13:44.05 brlcad cmd.com doesn't provide that environment
13:44.17 brlcad serial interfaces and network interfaces should
13:44.38 starseeker nods - I'm kinda dubious that it's viable, since surely someone would have done it by now if it were simple
13:44.58 starseeker but if we could "cheat" it would simplify the problem :-P
13:47.06 starseeker must finish hammering Tcl/Tk into submission...
16:07.01 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41311 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/erase.c: This corrects behavior of the erase_all command (i.e. The who command now yields the proper results and a subsequent raytrace is also correct).
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18:25.17 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41312 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ (Archer.tcl ArcherCore.tcl): Added a way to bypass tree decoration (i.e. increase tree update speed) by setting a no_tree_decorate variable in .archerrc.
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19:21.10 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41313 10/brlcad/trunk/src/external/ProEngineer/proe-brl-notes.txt: Minor update.
19:23.42 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41314 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/dm-rtgl.h src/libdm/dm-rtgl.c):
19:23.42 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: eliminate the use of RT_MAXARGS by making oldTrees be a dynamically allocated
19:23.42 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: array. adding a capacity parameter to keep track of how many slots are
19:23.42 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: available. renamed oldNumTrees to just numTrees and used size_t for sizes.
19:24.48 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41315 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-rtgl.c: ws consistency cleanup
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19:44.42 starseeker half wishes we could deprecate the current gqa command line syntax - would need to have something to replace it though...
19:45.33 brlcad pretty neat! ... http://ditaa.sourceforge.net/
19:45.42 brlcad could probably put that to use ..
19:57.40 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41316 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-rtgl.c: quell all verbose compilation warnings including unused params, unused vars, validation checks, and some cleanup.
20:00.51 starseeker hah - that is cool. Wonder what it would do with some of the nurbs drawings in the source code comments
20:00.56 starseeker Java though - ugh
20:02.01 starseeker that would be an awesome thing to integrate into doxygen
20:14.29 louipc woohoo java
20:15.10 starseeker is curious to see if Oracle can actually kill Java
20:15.30 louipc why would they do that?
20:15.47 louipc it's used for enterprise
20:16.10 starseeker if they tick off enough of the open source developers out there with their antics...
20:16.25 starseeker it could become the next COBOL
20:16.41 louipc oh, well openjdk will be the master or something then
20:16.46 starseeker at least, until the patents run out
20:19.43 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41317 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-rtgl.c: remove couple more instances of fixed-size RT_MAXARGS arrays. make visibleTrees array size dynamic, exactly big enough to fix the max number it might possibly store.
20:21.08 louipc starseeker: what was the reason for replacing tkimg with tkpng?
20:21.33 starseeker smaller - we were only including the subset we needed for png from tkimg anyway
20:22.57 louipc ah alright. just wondering because tkimg seems more ubiquitous
20:23.08 starseeker rather than extract and maintain a subset of one library, we just include all of a much smaller one (easier to keep synced up if need be)
20:23.24 starseeker actually, I believe the 8.6 png support in the core is based on tkpng
20:23.51 starseeker tkimg gives you a lot more formats, so it's a natural choice if you want the flexibiity
20:24.34 louipc ooh so we won't even need tkpng in due time eh
20:25.40 starseeker it'll be a while (we'll need to require 8.6 the way we currently require 8.5) but yeah :-)
20:26.13 louipc awsm
20:36.59 starseeker for that matter, we could probably check to see if either tkimg or tkpng was around in a system install - either would serve
20:37.11 starseeker makes note to check what that would take later
20:38.01 louipc yeah that wouldn't be a bad idea
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21:08.07 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41318 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/dg.h src/libged/dg_obj.c):
21:08.08 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: remove more instances of RT_MAXARGS and MAXARGS. this one is technically a bug
21:08.08 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: that would have been a crasher if the limit were hit as the array was sized as
21:08.08 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: RT_MAXARGS but being iterated over as size MAXARGS (and those two don't actually
21:08.08 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: match each other). we allocate and free memory dynamically based on the exact
21:09.44 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41319 10/brlcad/trunk/ (include/dg.h src/libged/dg_obj.c): we don't actually need to keep track of the capacity because the array ending is marked with a null and not resized
21:17.09 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41320 10/brlcad/trunk/src/mged/ (animedit.c cmd.c mged.h): more MAXARGS elimination. use a -1 magic to imply unlimited args for the funtab.
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22:32.32 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41321 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/CombEditFrame.tcl: Added the validTableEntry method for validating CombEditFrame's relative edit tables entries.
22:37.49 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41322 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: Update the getTreeMembers method to handle member names containing spaces. There's still more work to do in other areas of Archer for handling object names containing spaces.
23:37.40 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r41323 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/malloc.c: Updated function bu_realloc to function more line the standard function realloc.

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