01:05.43 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2360
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: editorial review resulting in
a mild restructuring, removal of itemized credit, and a little
punctuation liberty to reduce some redundancies |
01:09.12 |
brlcad |
starseeker: see how that reads to
you |
01:10.15 |
brlcad |
mostly took your words and just regrouped for
clarity, commonality, and emphasis |
01:12.00 |
brlcad |
can't seem to decide whether the mged command
names should be wrapped in single quotes or whether italicized is
enough |
01:12.51 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2361
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: try single quotes around
command names so it's more readily copy-pasteable to plain-text
without editing |
01:14.07 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2362
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: 7.18.0 release notes ready
for publication |
01:31.15 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2363
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: add a slew of ideas to the
hopper. adrt, nurbs, archer, rt lighting model, point clouds, v4,
goliath, and Lu??s Ferreira's student projects |
01:31.57 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2364
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: add her references |
01:33.57 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2365
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: NURBS article is already in
initial draft form |
01:37.08 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2366
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: chumaciera model |
01:38.37 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2367
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: expand on archer
article |
01:58.23 |
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02:15.28 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41570
10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: some ideas sparked by john's patch to only
handle regions and richard's recent addition of a file
semaphore. |
03:56.20 |
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04:09.28 |
yukonbob_ |
hello, #brlcad |
06:21.57 |
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10:39.21 |
starseeker |
brlcad: looks good (much better :-) to
me |
10:40.00 |
starseeker |
will send when he gets in -
on my way out now |
11:19.27 |
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12:17.50 |
d-lo |
*snicker* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUDaITFDxEs&feature=related |
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14:12.27 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2371
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: /* Idea Hopper */ slew of
additional ideas for the hopper including gsoc projects, 2010
stats, new gui, rtgl, bib, schedule, vision, and more |
14:12.43 |
brlcad |
that should be more than enough to keep us
busy for the next year! |
14:13.06 |
brlcad |
in fact, that'd be two years worth of articles
if all were written today and we did nothing new... |
14:13.47 |
starseeker |
cool |
14:14.07 |
starseeker |
brlcad-news email will be going out in a
couple minutes |
14:14.15 |
starseeker |
do I need to send anything to the dev
list? |
14:14.24 |
brlcad |
dev list? |
14:14.57 |
starseeker |
I posted that the trunk was entering release
prep mode - do I need to say it's open for business
again? |
14:15.06 |
brlcad |
oh |
14:15.32 |
brlcad |
you can if you like, but the news posting kind
of says that too (along with the version bump commit) |
14:15.56 |
starseeker |
ok |
14:18.41 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r2372
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: publication date of dec22 for
nurbs |
14:20.44 |
starseeker |
crosses
fingers... |
14:21.59 |
starseeker |
oh, whoops... am I subscribed to news with
that email? |
14:23.30 |
starseeker |
ok, good |
14:23.34 |
starseeker |
waits... |
14:27.20 |
starseeker |
hmm... |
14:27.26 |
starseeker |
pokes
sourceforge |
14:34.25 |
starseeker |
brlcad: you want to use the same release
notice for the brlcad.org front page? |
14:34.44 |
brlcad |
yeah, and the sf news |
14:35.37 |
brlcad |
you can use basic html formatting on the front
page, but then back to plain text for sf news |
14:36.03 |
starseeker |
alrightie |
14:36.16 |
starseeker |
front page article coming up next |
14:36.25 |
brlcad |
<b>tags</b> on your itemized list
sections and <i>commands</i> on the commands |
14:36.41 |
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14:36.57 |
brlcad |
<ul><li>list1</li><li>list2</li>
for the itemized list will make it come out like the wiki |
14:36.58 |
starseeker |
oh... I just snarfed the html direct from the
CPP page |
14:37.17 |
brlcad |
that might work, check the preview
though |
14:37.33 |
brlcad |
it's a subset of html that it
recognizes |
14:37.50 |
starseeker |
preview looks OK here... is submitting an
article a perminant thing or can it be tweaked after the
fact? |
14:37.54 |
brlcad |
s/recognizes/allows/ |
14:38.04 |
brlcad |
yes |
14:38.12 |
brlcad |
:) |
14:38.30 |
brlcad |
the sf news one cannot |
14:38.31 |
starseeker |
heh |
14:38.37 |
starseeker |
k |
14:40.14 |
starseeker |
pokes CIA-55 |
14:44.30 |
starseeker |
grumps that the sf news thing
doesn't have a preview option... |
14:44.53 |
starseeker |
nice that the text window is resizable though
- helps eliminate line breaks |
14:46.40 |
starseeker |
ok, sf news item is up |
14:59.12 |
starseeker |
ah, crap - I got the tag wrong on the
freshmeat thing |
15:53.59 |
brlcad |
the tag's fine |
15:54.48 |
starseeker |
is there typically a lag with the brlcad-news
posts? |
15:55.41 |
brlcad |
all postings to brlcad-news get held in a
queue for moderation, but I get an immediate notice |
15:55.49 |
brlcad |
nothing received |
15:55.54 |
starseeker |
grr |
15:56.02 |
brlcad |
let me check the queue |
15:56.28 |
starseeker |
sent from gmail - Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:20
AM |
15:58.06 |
brlcad |
odd, it's in the queue, but I've just not yet
received the notification |
15:58.17 |
starseeker |
ah, phew :-) |
15:58.29 |
brlcad |
it's on its way |
15:58.35 |
starseeker |
thanks :-) |
16:01.50 |
brlcad |
spanks
himself |
16:01.56 |
brlcad |
definitely should have announced the 7.16.10
features .. that's a long announcement :) |
16:02.53 |
brlcad |
although it's still on the mark, less than 500
words (sans the list) |
16:03.06 |
starseeker |
:-) |
16:04.06 |
brlcad |
all in all, though, a fine piece of
work |
16:04.23 |
brlcad |
easily justifies the .0 status |
16:04.43 |
starseeker |
agrees - lots of good stuff
there |
16:04.55 |
starseeker |
and at least this time we fixed the
regressions BEFORE the release :-P |
16:05.51 |
starseeker |
brlcad: I'd like to track down any problematic
systems remaining for the opengl stuff and get those
fixed |
16:06.05 |
starseeker |
we really need to start having opengl turned
on by default |
16:06.06 |
brlcad |
rt outputting png is probably the most
appreciated day-to-day feature in that release |
16:07.04 |
brlcad |
you can start just by building with opengl
enabled on every system you can find, but there are also a couple
bug reports iirc |
16:07.26 |
starseeker |
ok, sounds good |
16:07.48 |
brlcad |
the problems iirc are basically just
assumptions our code makes |
16:08.24 |
starseeker |
has a feeling that sometime
relatively soon we're going to have to start requiring opengl, at
least for GUI stuff... |
16:08.25 |
brlcad |
if you assume direct context, then the
indirect context platforms will bork; if you assume indirect, then
platforms insisting on direct will bork or performance will really
suck |
16:09.30 |
brlcad |
restarting that dm-tk and fb-tk effort with
opengl? |
16:09.46 |
starseeker |
in essence - that's really what the togl stuff
is |
16:09.55 |
starseeker |
plus all of Bob's goodies in Archer |
16:09.58 |
brlcad |
the problems we have are "mostly" glx
related |
16:11.16 |
brlcad |
https://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad/forums/forum/362510/topic/4007604 |
16:11.21 |
starseeker |
I know you guys fixed some of the issues a
little while back - certainly on the Mac |
16:12.18 |
starseeker |
oh no... |
16:12.42 |
brlcad |
hits the
road |
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16:42.18 |
yukonbob_ |
hello, #brlcad |
17:47.47 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Harris227940 07http://brlcad.org * r2373
10/wiki/User:608_buy_levitra: |
18:08.04 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Starseeker 07http://brlcad.org * r2374
10/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: Release notice published -
removing from CPP |
18:12.42 |
starseeker |
ah, right - CIA-55 only reports wiki
edits |
18:15.31 |
brlcad |
only? |
18:15.52 |
starseeker |
it didn't pop up anything when I posted the
announcement |
18:15.58 |
starseeker |
or when I fixed the release number |
18:16.20 |
brlcad |
ah |
18:16.26 |
brlcad |
those are in drupal |
18:17.21 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0
10/wiki/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:608 buy levitra]] with an
expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, e-mail
blocked): Spamming links to external sites |
18:18.16 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0
10/wiki/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:Harris227940]] with an
expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, e-mail
blocked): Spamming links to external sites |
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19:29.50 |
yukonbob |
hello #brlcad |
19:30.00 |
starseeker |
welcome :-) |
19:30.19 |
yukonbob |
hey starseeker. long time no chat. |
19:30.39 |
starseeker |
I've been here - where've you been?
:-P |
19:32.06 |
yukonbob |
I've been everywhere, man. |
19:32.07 |
yukonbob |
Crossed the desert's bare, man. |
19:32.07 |
yukonbob |
I've breathed the mountain air, man. |
19:32.07 |
yukonbob |
Of travel I've had my share, man. |
19:32.09 |
yukonbob |
I've been everywhere. |
19:32.53 |
starseeker |
so you've been doing Lisp programming?
<ducks> |
19:33.41 |
yukonbob |
heh... |
19:33.49 |
yukonbob |
mostly sysadmining... |
19:34.17 |
yukonbob |
was doing some C/Tcl lastnight though (first
time in few weeks) which was quite pleasant... |
19:34.38 |
starseeker |
nods - sysadmin tasks can be
a real pain |
19:35.21 |
yukonbob |
starseeker: doesn't help that my role/job
(non-)description is full of creature feep. |
19:35.41 |
yukonbob |
meh -- whatever... roll w/ the
punches. |
19:35.50 |
yukonbob |
how're things? |
19:38.30 |
starseeker |
doing the 7.18.0 release (although BRL-CAD is
having to be dragged kicking and screaming to release ready
status) |
19:38.54 |
yukonbob |
starseeker: stubborn bugs? |
19:39.31 |
starseeker |
somewhat, but it's more like every time we
turn a corner a NEW bug crops up |
19:39.39 |
starseeker |
the Windows installer is misbehaving
now |
19:40.39 |
yukonbob |
starseeker: how big a part of the ecosystem is
Windows? |
19:42.20 |
starseeker |
unfortunately, it's quite
significant |
19:42.34 |
starseeker |
you can check the sf.net download
stats |
19:44.22 |
brlcad |
starseeker: that's why it's important that all
devs run distcheck and the regression tests regularly |
19:45.07 |
starseeker |
true, but those wouldn't have caught the
windows issue |
19:45.21 |
brlcad |
it's not something that is hit up once and
forgotten about, takes ongoing attention to get a clean
release |
19:45.35 |
brlcad |
that's part of the point of aiming for monthly
releases and trying to stick to them |
19:46.35 |
brlcad |
windows binary notwithstanding, the 7.18.0
release hasn't been that bad |
19:46.58 |
brlcad |
just the cruft from 3 months of not releasing
and nobody checking in the meantime |
19:47.05 |
brlcad |
shouldn't always be just me :) |
19:47.16 |
yukonbob |
waves to
brlcad |
19:47.21 |
brlcad |
hello yukonbob |
19:47.31 |
brlcad |
yukonbob: care to write an article?
:) |
19:47.38 |
yukonbob |
about? |
19:47.41 |
yukonbob |
exodus? |
19:47.52 |
brlcad |
something brl-cad related |
19:48.22 |
brlcad |
can be short, just 250-500 words |
19:48.24 |
brlcad |
:) |
19:48.24 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Francis813751 07http://brlcad.org * r2375
10/wiki/User:931_buy_viagra: |
19:48.39 |
yukonbob |
brlcad: suggestion? |
19:49.49 |
brlcad |
yukonbob: didn't you have an mged scripting
tutorial? |
19:49.53 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0
10/wiki/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:931 buy viagra]] with an
expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled): Spamming links
to external sites |
19:49.55 |
brlcad |
you could write about that |
19:50.04 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03Sean 07http://brlcad.org * r0
10/wiki/Special:Log/block: blocked [[User:Francis813751]] with an
expiry time of infinite (account creation disabled, e-mail
blocked): Spamming links to external sites |
19:50.08 |
yukonbob |
*does* like mged
;) |
19:50.17 |
yukonbob |
and Tcl |
19:50.23 |
yukonbob |
and csg... |
19:50.36 |
brlcad |
there's three topics right there |
19:50.53 |
yukonbob |
speaking of Tcl -- what's the current state of
Tcl in brl-cad... is @ 8.5.x? |
19:51.05 |
yukonbob |
notes Tcl is what brought me
to brlcad |
19:51.08 |
starseeker |
8.5.8 |
19:51.09 |
yukonbob |
*brl-cad |
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19:51.17 |
yukonbob |
and brlcad ;) |
19:51.30 |
brlcad |
heh |
19:51.54 |
yukonbob |
brlcad: is for brlcad.org? |
19:58.51 |
yukonbob |
. |
19:59.04 |
yukonbob |
tests network, as is flaky at
this end lately. |
19:59.19 |
brlcad |
yep, website and mailing list |
19:59.33 |
brlcad |
http://brlcad.org/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal |
20:00.57 |
yukonbob |
brlcad: Tcl is suitable (i.e.: is still
relevant into foreseeable future?) |
20:01.07 |
brlcad |
why wouldn't it be? |
20:01.26 |
yukonbob |
oh I don't know -- rip it out and replace it
w/ something trendy like lua? |
20:01.28 |
yukonbob |
;) |
20:02.22 |
yukonbob |
i can look for my "hub" program and other
creation/querying... |
20:02.32 |
yukonbob |
*creation/querying tools;. |
20:02.36 |
brlcad |
if we were to do anything like that, it'd be a
move towards something like gimp's script-fu where you could use a
variety of languages including tcl, lua, python, bash,
etc |
20:03.03 |
yukonbob |
didn't know script-fu was
anything other than python, tbh. |
20:03.09 |
brlcad |
plugin scripting interface was envisioned for
the next generation GUI |
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20:04.01 |
brlcad |
script-fu is scheme |
20:04.09 |
yukonbob |
doesn't scripting/gui nearly always boil down
to tcl/tk? |
20:04.11 |
brlcad |
with additional plugins for perl and
python |
20:04.17 |
yukonbob |
perl: embed tcl/tk |
20:04.22 |
yukonbob |
python: embed tcl/tk |
20:04.59 |
yukonbob |
unless you're using various bindings for
either gtk or qt. |
20:06.51 |
brlcad |
we have little to gain by intentionally
excluding or removing scripting capability |
20:07.23 |
brlcad |
making the scripting layer modular would be a
"good thing" though |
20:07.48 |
brlcad |
libged gets us really close |
20:11.39 |
yukonbob |
wishes he had a running
brl-cad installation... |
20:11.53 |
yukonbob |
I blame the move to 8.5b |
20:14.14 |
starseeker |
OK, old 7.18.0 exe installs are moved to
OldFiles - we'll put new ones up when we have something that
works |
20:20.42 |
brlcad |
should update the readme in that folder
explaining the issue and new release pointer -- have to update the
freshmeat link too |
20:32.11 |
starseeker |
k - I'll do the readme now, but for the moment
there's nothing to point to from freshmeat |
20:36.30 |
CIA-55 |
BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r41571
10/brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc8/tclsh/library/installTree.tcl:
Check for the existence of microsoft redist files along "Program
Files" path. If that fails use "Program Files (x86)". |
20:54.32 |
yukonbob |
is .18.0 tagged? |
20:54.45 |
``Erik |
yes |
20:54.55 |
yukonbob |
nice |
20:54.57 |
yukonbob |
waves to
``Erik |
21:12.53 |
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21:17.15 |
``Erik |
has uploaded a 32b winderz
7.18.0, could use a tester O.o |
22:27.52 |
``Erik |
hm, a friend of a friend is looking for an
iphone programmer |