IRC log for #brlcad on 20101210

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00:25.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r41572 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/pipe/pipe.c:
00:25.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: Updated function rt_pipe_tess. Changed some tolerances that were preventing some
00:25.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: pipe bends from tesselating. Also changed some compares from 0.0 to SMALL_FASTF
00:25.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: which could be causing problems. These changes improved 'ev' and 'facetize' for
00:25.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: the sample model 'toyjeep.g'. Further testing is necessary but I believe these
00:25.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: changes will show improvement in other models containing pipes.
00:29.11 brlcad 200,000 objects converted
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01:52.57 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r41573 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_bool.c:
01:52.57 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: Updated functions 'nmg_boolean' and 'nmg_booltree_evaluate'. Removed
01:52.57 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 'nmg_model_fuse' from the function 'nmg_boolean' and placed it within
01:52.57 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 'nmg_booltree_evaluate' which is later in the boolean process and is where all
01:52.57 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: the geometry is location in a single nmg model structure. This change appears to
01:52.57 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: improve 'facetize' but further testing is necessary.
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11:39.04 d-lo Mernin all!
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12:11.18 ``Erik yargh
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13:06.12 ``Erik ohyeh, that's a slow computer
14:07.28 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41574 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/search.xml: gree!
15:28.52 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41575 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/conversion.sh:
15:28.52 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: add the ability to specify a secondary mged that supports the search command so
15:28.52 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: you can find geometry using a 7.14.0+ enabled mged, but then convert geometry
15:28.52 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: using versions of mged that predate the search command. also add the ability to
15:28.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: specify search parameters so you can limit conversion to subsets of geometry
15:28.53 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: like only regions, primitives, top-level objects, etc.
15:30.17 ``Erik heh, yeh
15:31.07 ``Erik rweiss had mentioned that the script seemed skewed due to doing all 'things' instead of just regions, I'm not sure I see any significant value in measuring above region level, but below is a good debug exercise for failures
15:31.54 ``Erik g-nmg can probably be trivially instrumented with failure info, as well
15:40.43 ``Erik hm, new arm kernel built, dd'd to a drive... but I think I'll hold off on trying to boot it, I surspect kernel hacking will follow
15:46.26 starseeker needs to remember the difference between grees and trees ;-)
15:48.18 starseeker ``Erik: I'd imagine converting above the region level is sometimes desirable if you want one BoT object that represents an entire vehicle without managing multiple bots
15:49.23 starseeker Admittedly I can't really think offhand of a case where that might be an issue, but I suppose it might be in some simple web viewers or something else very simple...
15:49.42 starseeker dunno much about the various 3d display plugins
15:49.53 starseeker saddles up and heads in
16:08.29 ``Erik off the top of my head, I cannot think of anything that wants a single massive triangle soup that cannot collate it all itself :/
16:09.04 ``Erik even lame crap like ogre and osg can cope with multiple meshes :D even wavefront!
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16:44.57 brlcad there's nothing special about regions as far as conversions are concerned other than the implicit assumption that there should only be unions/groupings above it
16:45.28 brlcad it's not skewed, it's the reality of the database, just an artifact of the fact that it's a DAG
16:46.34 brlcad the bigger problem going above the region level is ending up with resulting meshes that preserve solidity
16:47.33 brlcad still that's all completely irrelevant per my comments on the mailing list about what the script's scope and purpose is
16:48.32 brlcad those changes let the script's scope increase a little bit more so we can test OTHER questions like just conversion of regions or just primitives or any other arbitrary set of geometry deemed relevant for testing
16:49.14 brlcad otherwise, users do NOT care whether they thing they asked to convert is above at or below the region level -- a fact many people seem to keep forgetting
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17:55.46 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41576 10/rt^3/trunk/ (CMakeLists.txt src/GS/CMakeLists.txt):
17:55.46 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: Dave, let me know if this causes trouble but I'm adding logic to move things to
17:55.46 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: bin and lib dirs in the build instead of leaving them in the src/... directories
17:55.46 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: - the BRL-CAD cmake build does this and I've found it convenient...
18:20.59 brlcad one more release detail, if a new binary distribution is uploaded (like the windows binary), you have to mark that file as the new default download for that platform
18:21.14 brlcad otherwise it will sill point users to the previous marked version
18:21.17 starseeker ah, k
18:32.42 brlcad it's the little 'i' next to the tiny download statistic graph
18:33.37 brlcad which affected you upload ``Erik but i went ahead and fixed it
18:38.50 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03starseeker * r41577 10/rt^3/trunk/ (CMakeLists.txt src/GS/CMakeLists.txt): Hmm - let's not make those changes until I've succeeded in using the current setup...
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20:37.14 CIA-55 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r41578 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: rework gqa semaphore locking so there is no resource contention.
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