IRC log for #brlcad on 20110528

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14:11.07 epileg starseeker: I see that yesterday You updated the STABLE branch with v7.20.0 but there isn't a new source talball file for download
14:12.13 epileg can I upload new deb/rpm packages based on STABLE branch?
14:17.45 ``Erik probably, but the official tarball should be up very soon, tuesday at the latest. If you want source builds to match the md5/sha1, might be worth holding off an actual change in the package mgmt upstream. This one might take a little more work, though, we've switched to cmake... it might be a good idea to make a tar from stable and try to update the spec/deb files to accomodate that, then tweak a little once the 'official' source is upload
14:19.15 ``Erik I suspect 7.20.2 will be fairly soon once we get feedback, this is a .0 release, so we kinda expect some turbulance :) give it a whack and let us know how bad it is ;)
14:25.12 epileg I didn't switch to cmake the deb/rpm building process because there are some things that I'm not able to properly work
14:25.56 epileg is there a way to specify the "man" dir with cmake?
14:27.13 epileg is there a way to enable the pango rendering text with cmake?
14:39.38 epileg also, is there a way to set the "share" folder?
14:47.51 starseeker epileg: it's not thoroughly tested, but you can try -DBRLCAD_INSTALL_MAN_DIR=... -DMAN_DIR=...
14:48.27 starseeker for share, it would be -DBRLCAD_INSTALL_DATA_DIR=... -DDDATA_DIR=...
14:48.40 starseeker uh... dunno what pango is
14:49.00 starseeker should clean up that project specific stuff at some point...
14:49.02 epileg pango is a text rendering library
14:49.09 starseeker do we use it?
14:49.15 epileg yes
14:49.18 starseeker where?
14:49.44 epileg in mged, arch and rtwizard
14:50.16 starseeker um. if it needs to be specifically linked in I probably missed it the first time around
14:50.23 epileg if I compile brlcad without pango dev libs in my system, resulting execs do not properly render the text
14:50.42 starseeker we don't seem to directly use it in our code
14:50.51 starseeker only grep matches for pango are in misc and sh dirs
14:51.37 starseeker I'm not sure that's us directly then
14:51.54 starseeker are you using system Tcl/Tk?
14:52.08 epileg I don't know, i just tell You what I get
14:52.36 starseeker try ldd - does mged link to libpango?
14:53.10 starseeker epileg: I would suggest trying a CMake build and see what happens
14:53.23 epileg not, I build them with "./configure --enable-optimized --enable-almost-everything --with-ogl --disable-debug"
14:53.49 starseeker hmm. Might be some subtlty with how X and Tk are doing text together
14:53.51 epileg I already try cmake and I get a non rendering text on them
14:54.01 starseeker even with libpango installed?
14:55.06 starseeker ah, wait - that might be the freetype stuff with Tk - I think I might be assuming freetype for the Tk build on some platforms...
14:55.23 starseeker epileg: which version of Debian is this?
14:55.49 epileg ldd mged http://paste.debian.net/118256/
14:57.04 starseeker huh, weird
14:57.21 epileg yes even with libpango installed. in the same system, using autotools, text rendering, with cmake, not text rendering
14:57.43 starseeker probably something about the Tk build then
14:58.06 starseeker is depressed but not surprised
14:58.16 epileg hahaha
14:59.19 starseeker Debian does some funny stuff
14:59.53 starseeker one of the ultimate motivators for me trying Gentoo was Debian acting funny when it came to customization and settings
15:00.11 starseeker God I'd love to ditch tcl/tk
15:00.13 epileg well, I do this in Ubuntu 10.10
15:00.30 starseeker k - only way I can test that is if it works in VirtualBox
15:01.25 epileg well, I always compile and create deb/rpm on virtualbox machines
15:01.40 epileg without problems
15:04.04 starseeker epileg: I don't suppose you could try the CMake build with a system Tcl/Tk?
15:05.09 epileg I use exactly this:
15:05.09 epileg cmake -DBRLCAD-ENABLE_OPTIMIZED_BUILD=ON -DBRLCAD-ENABLE_ALL_LOCAL_LIBS=ON -DBRLCAD-ENABLE_STRICT=OFF
15:05.35 starseeker epileg: OK - what happens with cmake -DBRLCAD-ENABLE_OPTIMIZED_BUILD=ON -DBRLCAD-ENABLE_STRICT=OFF
15:05.49 starseeker and a system tcl/tk installed
15:07.13 epileg give mi time to test this
15:07.19 starseeker sure
15:07.23 starseeker no hurry
15:07.42 starseeker I'll only be online for a little while - just post the results when you have them
15:07.47 starseeker we read scrollback
15:08.13 epileg ok
15:39.19 epileg starseeker: same result
15:39.49 epileg two captures of the results
15:39.51 epileg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/832/autotools.png/
15:40.12 epileg http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/cmake.png/
15:45.07 starseeker huh - http://www.thermalanalytics.com/products/eclectic/
15:45.20 starseeker gpl and needs info to download though...
15:46.27 starseeker looks like different fonts are being used
15:47.58 epileg may be, but both compiled and installed in the same system, just different is autotools and cmake
15:48.48 starseeker epileg: yeah, then my first suspicion is how Tk is being built/installed
15:49.00 starseeker O.o - "Eclectic was developed by the U.S. Army TACOM"
15:50.09 starseeker well well well
15:55.33 epileg I've to go
15:55.44 starseeker epileg: later - thanks for trying things out!
15:56.03 epileg no problem :-)
15:56.15 starseeker O.O - Eclectic can import our .asc files??
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