IRC log for #brlcad on 20110907

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00:14.18 n_reed brlcad: specifically the issue was that two inputs had outputs with unwanted holes in them
00:14.55 n_reed problem should be that too few or too many points are being considered identical
00:15.12 n_reed using meters as units (now the default) is enough to fix one of the cases
00:15.28 n_reed fixing the other should require adjusting hte distance tolerance
00:16.30 n_reed distance tolerance could be adjusted automatically, but i'm not sure it could be done smartly enough to work in every case
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00:53.40 bhinesley starseeker: yep, I'm here
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01:11.43 brlcad bhinesley: same for your project too, ideas on how to characterize your summer work into a showcase piece?
01:12.37 brlcad visuals are a bit less effective except for maybe a diagram
01:13.26 brlcad easy enough to show how three commands now becomes just one, or a harder case where translating relative to something else turns 10+ steps into just one
01:17.54 brlcad starseeker: I'm not too concerned about the cax-if at this point -- I considered going through the efforts to join them a while back anyways
01:18.56 brlcad certainly not concerned about any of their data tainting the scl just because they don't even provide that kind of information
01:29.08 starseeker cool
01:54.18 starseeker ifcOpenShell is kinda interesting
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04:23.32 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 0378.8.106.10 07http://brlcad.org * r3144 10/wiki/User:78.8.106.10: New page: [http://www.williamhickswi.com williamhickswi] Hello, im williamhicksw
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05:32.23 bhinesley brlcad: the DESCRIPTION section of the "edit" man page was my attempt at summarizing what it's all about.
05:32.26 bhinesley main concepts you could touch on: use of apparent positions of objects + offsets as references (particular/instance/of/obj 0 2.5 -5), ability to use those object references or actual coordinates interchangably in specifying any of the x/y/z coordinates, performing batch operations (i.e. perform a similar operation on each of *these*)
05:32.31 bhinesley Examples 3 or 4 in the edit_translate manual are practical/interesting uses that show off several features at once. They're simple to understand, yet they would take many steps to perform by conventional means (true for many other modeling packages as well). They would be even harder to replicate if specific instances of objects were used, ex:
05:32.36 bhinesley edit translate -k . -a -z C/D/E/F/G A/obj1 A/obj2 B/obj1 B/obj2
05:32.39 bhinesley (move each object instance from the elevation of their respective bb center to the elevation of the apparent bb_center of C/D/E/F/G; in other words, align them at the elevation that C/D/E/F/G is drawn)
05:32.43 bhinesley besides requiring 4 sets of oed + translate + accept (12 steps) at a minimum, personally, I wouldn't even know how to accomplish the exact same task using other mged/libged commands.
05:33.48 bhinesley btw, as shown in example 10, I'm not sure the -r option is strictly necessary since I added the ability to specify offsets with objects. Something to consider at least, assuming we'll refactor.
05:34.27 bhinesley brlcad: hopefully that's the type of thing you were looking for, if not, let me know.
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15:14.33 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r46580 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/make_deb.sh: correct typo
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16:33.55 brlcad bhinesley: that might work -- I think part of the effort will involve actually characterizing one of the examples into what steps would need to be taken now, to drive that point home
16:46.38 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r46581 10/brlcad/trunk/sh/make_deb.sh: making a little more robust--allow for non-package utilities such as a locally installed cmake
16:52.26 brlcad nifty for those that haven't seen it before: http://xlinux.nist.gov/dads/termsImpl.html
18:10.34 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r46582 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/ (8 files):
18:10.35 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: add deprecation warnings to the following widgets: Database, Db, Display, Dm,
18:10.35 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: Drawable, Mged, QuadDisplay, and View. They are all supplanted by the newer Ged
18:10.35 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: widget (which hooks to libtclcad for dm/fb/view bindings as well as libged
18:10.35 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: commands).
18:13.31 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r46583 10/brlcad/trunk/ (TODO doc/deprecation.txt):
18:13.31 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: formally deprecate the old mged megawidget tcl infrastructure since there may be
18:13.31 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: users out there using it. they were the precursor to archer, but now archer
18:13.31 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: goes through a different Ged widget interface that binds to libtclcad.
19:03.57 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r46584 10/brlcad/trunk/TODO: loadview can be better
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20:01.50 jordisayol brlcad: anyway, is there a way in SF to make as default download for an OS a directory instead a file?
20:04.56 jordisayol brlcad: I've seen that, if I mark as default a 64 bit package, it was the most downloaded, but if I mark the 32 bit package as default, this is the most downloaded too!!! So the conclusion is, people clicks without read/think too much...
20:05.43 brlcad jordisayol: not that I'm aware of, it's be a feature enhancement request
20:06.15 jordisayol brlcad: ok, many thanks
20:34.27 CIA-62 BRL-CAD: 03erikgreenwald * r46585 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/bottess.c: begin soup2bot(). Cleanup.
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