IRC log for #brlcad on 20111016

00:01.29 brlcad abhi2011: NEAR_EQUAL() probably didn't work because it compares against the open set
00:02.12 brlcad i.e., the values between val-tol to val+tol, but not including those values
00:02.12 abhi2011 brlcad: open set ?
00:02.21 abhi2011 ok
00:03.00 abhi2011 a simple == may work
00:03.29 brlcad no, that's the point of the macros
00:03.38 brlcad you cannot rely on == with floating point, it is not reliable
00:03.45 abhi2011 hmm yes
00:04.14 abhi2011 so there are no macros which include the boundary values ?
00:04.28 brlcad that's part why NEAR_EQUAL() uses the open set, you cannot reliably compare if a value <= some other value
00:04.41 brlcad you can only compare if it's < or <
00:04.43 brlcad er >
00:04.48 abhi2011 ok
00:05.16 brlcad so to get the looping effect you were attempting, you were basically just off-by-one due to the tolerance
00:05.45 abhi2011 yes i wanted it to go upto 1.0000, but it stopped at 0.96
00:05.52 brlcad changing to what you did is fine, val < (max+tol)
00:06.00 abhi2011 ok
00:07.16 brlcad though that should have been effectively equiv to !NEAR_EQUAL(val, max, tol)
00:08.03 brlcad er, I mean !NEAR_EQUAL(val, max+tol, tol)
01:29.26 abhi2011 yes right :)
06:14.27 *** join/#brlcad jordisayol (~jordisayo@unaffiliated/jordisayol)
09:11.33 cvds_ why is delete used as a "quit terminal" >_>
09:52.35 cvds_ I wonder what the easiest way would be to get a prism with a 10degree slope
10:02.54 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03tbrowder2 * r47269 10/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/ (ElNode.pm read-db-xml.pl): add two tools to read DB xml and extract data for archer
11:09.12 *** join/#brlcad abhi2011 (~chatzilla@ip170-79-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
12:17.38 brlcad cvds_: delete used as a quit terminal? in what?
12:19.01 cvds_ brlcad: in mged console mode
12:19.10 cvds_ if I hit delete on an empty command line mged closes
12:19.32 cvds_ not a problem unless it happens the first time, I went o_O
12:29.50 brlcad eek, that doesn't sound like a quit terminal, that sounds like it's crashing!
12:29.57 brlcad have you ever run gdb before?
12:30.12 brlcad gdb --args path/to/mged
12:30.14 brlcad run
12:30.36 brlcad use it, hit delete, see if it returns you to a gdb prompt
12:30.41 brlcad then "bt"
12:42.15 cvds_ will do
12:43.54 cvds_ I need to install that ghdb first tho
12:46.20 cvds_ gdb*
12:58.11 cvds_ also should I worry if rendering with 'E' gives me a wall of text ?
13:05.53 cvds_ brlcad: http://pastebin.com/rrtTqJpC however I dont have a version including debug symbols, so not sure i useful
13:05.59 cvds_ if its*
13:06.55 *** join/#brlcad abhi2011 (~chatzilla@ip170-79-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
13:09.35 brlcad cvds_: typing delete inserted that "exit" command?
13:10.11 brlcad that's not a crash, that's a normal exit .. but it's certainly not expected
13:10.32 brlcad E giving a wall of text is normal - it's the output from tessellating the geometry into a polygonal mesh
13:13.12 cvds_ including: ERROR: first hit on bodyCOuter.s (surfno = 12) is an exit at (-6.42262 13 11) ray start = (-4.451251276587e+00 1.300000000000e+01 1.100000000000e+01), ray dir = (1.000000000000e+00 0.000000000000e+00 -1.366428338000e-16)
13:13.37 cvds_ and technically its not "typing" delete but pressing the delete key :)
13:14.30 cvds_ but its indeed curious why its linked to exit, ctrl-d works as well btw, but that I do find expectid behavior
13:14.39 cvds_ expected*
13:20.09 *** join/#brlcad yiyus (1242712427@je.je.je)
13:33.46 cvds_ another thing I noticed that after using red the comb_color will have reset
13:50.47 brlcad which version are you using?
14:02.54 cvds_ brlcad: http://pastebin.com/3VmSQiZt
14:19.16 brlcad cvds_: for future reference, pastebin.com not only sucks but is inaccessible to most in the channel some of the time due to network blocks -- suggest pastebin.ca or paste.debian.org or just about any other ;)
14:19.34 brlcad yeah, I'll verify, but I'm pretty sure that red bug was fixed in 7.20
14:23.26 cvds_ brlcad: okies, will divert to the debian one for further posts
14:23.51 cvds_ first component is nearing the done stage... took a long time
14:26.13 cvds_ well the first version... no doubt that after printing I will be making adjustments
14:41.35 starseeker cusses Windows and Tcl/Tk both
14:42.11 starseeker just when I thought I finally had this licked, I can't get wish going on Win32 with 8.6
14:49.02 brlcad heh
14:49.19 brlcad cvds_: would love to see pics of your work (before and after printing)
15:10.57 cvds_ brlcad: Maybe I can post some renders on flickr later today
15:12.28 cvds_ last couple of primitives to add
16:01.08 cvds_ brlcad: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjwoVYoK
16:07.48 starseeker growses... what's the poing of a HAVE_ZLIB flag if you're going to guarantee you always have zlib...
16:17.38 *** join/#brlcad abhi2011 (~chatzilla@ip170-79-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl)
16:57.14 brlcad cvds_: that's pretty awesome!
16:57.26 brlcad so you're going to have that geometry printed?
16:57.56 brlcad either way, pretty cool .. nice level of detail
16:57.59 brlcad what is it? :)
16:58.02 cvds_ brlcad: yes, but have to build the printer first :)
16:58.31 cvds_ its a finger switch with 5 directions, N E S W and down
16:59.36 cvds_ and I would not be amazed that I need to adjust some of it to make it printer compitable
16:59.46 cvds_ comaptible*
17:02.02 cvds_ hmm here is to hoping I can fit the 2 missing optocoupler space
17:02.03 cvds_ s
17:15.13 *** join/#brlcad velociostrich (~nicholas@c-24-0-153-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
17:59.12 cvds_ and thanks for the compliment
18:01.50 cvds_ hmm a raytrace from a sliced version takes way longer
18:23.47 *** join/#brlcad velociostrich (~nicholas@c-24-0-153-224.hsd1.pa.comcast.net)
19:16.04 cvds_ brlcad: more renders: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjwoVYoK
20:11.25 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03abhi2011 * r47270 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/ (7 files): Separated the list of manifolds generated by bullet and that generated by rt, as they are required at different times during the simulation iterations
20:24.51 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03abhi2011 * r47271 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/ (simrt.c simulate.h): Corrected some errors in setting up the linked list
20:56.25 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03abhi2011 * r47272 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/ (simcollisionalgo.cpp simrt.c): Corrected some code for generating the normals and depth values correctly
23:27.01 CIA-48 BRL-CAD: 03abhi2011 * r47273 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/simcollisionalgo.cpp: The manifold points were not getting inserted correctly, fixed it to some extent, still cant keep objects steady on top of each other, hunting for what I am missing out
23:55.05 starseeker cvds_: the -k option to rt is helpful when you're doing sliced views
23:55.24 starseeker (think it's -k - the cutting plane)

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