IRC log for #brlcad on 20120727

00:23.00 brlcad starseeker: that's interesting -- the last time I recall looking at them, they weren't readily plugabble
00:23.05 brlcad but it looks like they've worked on improving that
00:25.24 brlcad for our purpose, we'd need a slightly modified geometry export
00:25.26 brlcad leaves are usually modeled as individual polygons in most content systems
00:25.57 *** join/#brlcad louipc (~louipc@archlinux/fellow/louipc)
00:26.13 brlcad we'd need them to be plate mode leaves and solid mode limbs (and we might have to mod to close off the trunk/roots)
00:39.15 *** join/#brlcad elf11 (~elf11@p5.eregie.pub.ro)
01:48.08 brlcad hello elf11
01:48.19 brlcad glad to see the submission!
02:11.10 elf11 Hello :) well I am sure it needs some improving, but I am open to any suggestions
02:28.02 starseeker brlcad: would be interesting... wonder if there's enough demand for plant models to be worth it
02:29.15 starseeker would probably need an Archer plugin to provide the GUI controls
02:34.29 *** join/#brlcad elf11 (~elf11@p5.eregie.pub.ro)
02:37.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r51687 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tie.c:
02:37.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: instead of calling isnan(), prevent the division by zero altogether. division
02:37.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: by zero can crash on non-ieee systems and be configured to throw an exception
02:37.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: even on modern systems (which will abort the application). the intent is to
02:37.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: just skip perpedicular faces, so using RT_DOT_TOL should give more consistent
02:37.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: repeatable behavior.
02:44.17 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03brlcad * r51688 10/brlcad/trunk/NEWS:
02:44.17 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: richard fix a TIE BoT mesh evaluation problem where raytracing a BoT reports the
02:44.17 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: warning 'rt_boolweave: Defective ID_BOT segment' and produces holes in the
02:44.17 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: resulting geometry. I applied a minor change to halt prior to the division by
02:44.18 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: zero for slightly more robust behavior.
05:17.09 *** join/#brlcad flash__ (~flash@adsl-ull-128-17.49-151.net24.it)
05:18.54 pnjun Hi, i wrote in the ml yesterday. I've got a few question about the 'bending light' project...
05:59.29 pnjun Anyone up to answer a few questions about the 'bending light' project? (SOCIS)
06:51.59 *** join/#brlcad merzo (~merzo@12-255-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net)
06:56.56 pnjun Hi, i've got a few question about the 'bending light' project (SOCIS), Anyone up?
07:13.48 *** join/#brlcad maker (~maker@83.149.158.212)
07:29.34 pnjun Hi, i've got a few question about the 'bending light' project (SOCIS), Anyone up?
07:54.57 pnjun Anyone up to answer a few questions about the 'bending light' project? (SOCIS)
08:09.47 milamber pnjun: if no one is up to answer your question, your best bet is to just ask the question. most people are pretty good about reading the logs and getting back to you.
08:10.41 pnjun Ok, i'll do it
08:14.03 pnjun What are the required skills to participate to SOCIS in the project 'bending light'? do i have to already know how a raytracer works? About the application, do i have to propose milestones and algorithm i intend to use even if i apply to one of the already proposed projects?
08:17.19 pnjun How i am supposed to work? I took a look at the code regarding the raytracer, but i'll need some hints on the code in order to start developing, will the mentor help me getting started or am i supposed to do all on my own
08:17.20 pnjun ?
08:23.24 *** join/#brlcad reuben (~reuben@93-97-69-251.zone5.bethere.co.uk)
08:42.11 *** join/#brlcad stas (~stas@82.208.133.12)
09:56.57 reuben Cool application submitted, look forward to working on particle systems.
10:17.57 brlcad hi pnjun - the required skills entirely depend on what you propose doing
10:18.58 brlcad your proposal should include milestones and algorithms -- our project ideas are ONLY ideas, starting point suggestions
10:20.16 brlcad there are lots of devs that will be able to provide hints and help you get started AND you're also supposed to figure a lot out on your own, it's a balancing act
10:20.43 brlcad reuben: thanks! if you hang around here, hopefully I can get you some feedback on the application in a few hours
10:22.14 brlcad pnjun: for the bending light project, there are two main approaches to consider for simulating light traveling along a curved path
10:22.30 pnjun brlcad: I've already downloaded the virtual machine distro an took a look to the code, obiuvlsy i'll try to figure out the most of my own
10:22.37 brlcad first, you'll need a representation of the path, implicit or explicit
10:23.03 brlcad then you'll need an evaluation of the path, where you have to decide direct evaluation or piecewise linear
10:23.54 brlcad pnjun: you're not meant to figure out what to do for your proposal all on your own, there the main limitation is just going to be time (today is the deadline)
10:24.29 pnjun i've already applyed, but i did not specify milestones or schedule in the application
10:24.56 brlcad ah, yes I see that
10:25.13 pnjun and since the application peroid ends in half an hour i don't think i can do it
10:25.23 brlcad you should definitely try to fill in a lot more detail
10:26.07 brlcad socis deadlines haven't been as strict as others, sometimes you can keep editing for several hours
10:26.45 pnjun I can spend this afternoon try to figure out how to implement it and then propose my milestones
10:26.51 brlcad what you can do is create a user page on our wiki and link to that in your proposal -- then you can keep editing the wiki page all the way up until we finally read/review them
10:27.15 brlcad I would suggest creating a user page and doing that now
10:27.25 pnjun ok, thanks.. i'll do it asap
10:27.49 brlcad here's examples for our GSoC students, several of which have their proposals on the wiki: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012
10:28.07 brlcad it's the first link, their name
10:28.42 brlcad of course, not anurag.. :)
10:29.03 brlcad the next too do, though
10:29.42 pnjun I'm looking at it.. i'm creating my own page
10:29.51 pnjun and then i'll link it in the application
10:32.57 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03Pnjun 07http://brlcad.org * r4240 10/wiki/User:Pnjun: New page: pnjun user page
10:33.06 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03Pnjun 07http://brlcad.org * r4241 10/wiki/User:Pnjun:
10:34.11 pnjun how can i change the application? the form says you don't get notified
10:45.49 reuben brlcad: Thanks for the offer, I had to step away from my computer for a bit there and I'm not sure I'll have time now.
10:47.21 reuben before 11:00
10:56.51 *** join/#brlcad ksuzee (~ksu@193.151.107.25)
12:02.58 starseeker ksuzee: howdy!
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r51689 10/brlcad/trunk/ (8 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: Added a mechanism for using mouse interactions to edit the matrix above some
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: member of a combination. Previously, mouse interactions resulted in edits
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: getting pushed into the selected object. That is if the selected object was a
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: combination, the edits wound up as matrices above all members in the
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: combination. And if the selected object was a primitive, the edits were pushed
12:04.31 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: into the primitive. Archer has another mode button in the toolbar for deciding
12:26.35 ``Erik *readreadread*
12:27.03 ``Erik for the socis dudes, yeah, what brlcad said... keep trying to shoot incremental updates to the application site until it doesn't work
12:27.31 ``Erik (drakma+closure-html is keen)
12:35.01 *** join/#brlcad andrei (andrei@188.25.161.217)
13:12.06 brlcad looks like they officially closed off the site already, so any updates now will have to be on the wiki page or simply discussed here anyways
13:47.47 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r51690 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ArcherCore.tcl: Modified ArcherCore::handleTreeOpen to check if mPNode2CList() exists before trying to open.
14:39.20 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03Pnjun 07http://brlcad.org * r4242 10/wiki/User:Pnjun:
14:50.06 *** join/#brlcad xth1 (~thiago@187-79-2-117.user.veloxzone.com.br)
15:11.55 ksuzee starseeker: hello, Cliff! Have you received my e-mail?
16:16.18 starseeker ksuzee: I replied to your Jul25 email on the BRL-CAD list - that's the last one I've seen
16:38.28 ksuzee starseeker: What particular do you mean? I have not received anything since Jul24. Or is it possible to look through them somehow without getting email. Maybe I just haven't received it yet.
16:57.40 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03bob1961 * r51691 10/brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: Updated Archer::raytracePlus to double-quote rtwizname and dbname when dumping to a batch script.
18:11.49 *** join/#brlcad dtidrow (~dtidrow@c-68-84-167-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net)
18:15.39 *** join/#brlcad elf11 (~elf11@p22.eregie.pub.ro)
19:01.47 *** join/#brlcad cristina (~quassel@188.24.50.251)
19:41.51 *** join/#brlcad stas (~stas@188.24.50.251)
21:11.40 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r51692 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tie.c:
21:11.40 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: Updated file "tie.c" functions "tie_tri_prep" and "tie_work". Removed the test
21:11.40 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: for a too small of denominator in function "tie_work" and added code to function
21:11.40 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: "tie_tri_prep" to prevent normals of (0,0,0) which was causing a zero
21:11.40 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: denominator in function "tie_work".
21:17.39 *** join/#brlcad andrei (andrei@188.25.161.217)
21:18.50 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03r_weiss * r51693 10/brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tie.c: Added the macro UNLIKELY to function "tie_tri_prep" in file "tie.c".
23:22.25 DarkCalf pokes brlcad
23:54.27 CIA-23 BRL-CAD: 03crdueck * r51694 10/brlcad/trunk/src/libged/analyze.c: moved common code in analyze_bot_face(), analyze_arbn_face(), and analyze_face() to new function analyze_poly_face()

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.