IRC log for #brlcad on 20120925

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16:27.10 brlcad elf11_: here's what was written
16:27.10 brlcad 22:30 < brlcad> elf11_: you should totally document everything abhijit has been telling you in the source code
16:27.13 brlcad 22:31 < brlcad> like the broadphase/narrowphase information, bounding boxes, how things are organized and processed, etc
16:27.16 brlcad 22:31 < brlcad> a comment in one of the source files or even in a text README file is warranted
16:27.19 brlcad 22:31 < brlcad> as much detail an information as possible
16:36.42 elf11_ Hey, Sean. I was already doing that, documenting for myself what Abhi told me, to organize stuff a little bit in my mind - by writing it down, so I will add a file with it in the source files
16:38.02 brlcad great
16:38.55 elf11_ and about the mm/m problem that we encountered?
16:39.18 elf11_ also I am currently trying to see why the mass of the body is growing during the simulation
16:45.12 brlcad elf11_: can you summarize the problem?
16:45.31 brlcad limiting working units to mm is fine for now, but it does seem like a peculiar limitation
16:47.02 elf11_ In the meter case we concluded that when transfering information from mged to bullet, mged has the units stored as n * 1000mm and not as n meters, so bullet gets n*1000 units, since bullet knows only about meters that's the unit we get
16:47.49 elf11_ so scaling when transferring from mged to bullet is an option
16:49.17 elf11_ also found out why the cube was penetrating the gp in that simulation, bullet has a tolerance of 0.04m so for collision detection to work properly geometry should be larger than that tolerance
16:49.26 elf11_ the geometry for that simulation wasn't
16:59.09 brlcad elf11_: brl-cad stores everything as mm and lets you have working units be nearly anything
16:59.59 brlcad you shouldn't be "scaling" anything.. should be passing it in as-is
17:01.23 brlcad if bullet has a tolerance of 0.04m, then it may make sense to "scale" it when feeding it to bullet, but only to overcome that limitation
17:03.13 brlcad makes a note of http://wikihelp.autodesk.com/Alias/enu/2013/Help/0124-Autodesk124/0281-How_to..281/0282-Model282/0363-Modify_g363/0427-Cut_or_t427/0433-Convert_433
17:04.59 elf11_ So you say that brlcad is storing everything in mm, but when we transfer from mged to bullet we should have got meters? Of course if the geometry we created was in meters.
18:45.35 brlcad elf11_: I wasn't speaking to what happens when you transfer to bullet -- just what brl-cad does
18:46.14 brlcad everything is (always) stored as mm along with the working units so that numerics are stable -- conversion happens on the fly to your working units only when needed
18:47.17 brlcad if you created geometry in m, then the mm values getting passed to bullet would be "too big" if bullet treats the values as m
20:30.42 starseeker Well, nuts. Why'd Pixar have to go with Microsoft Public License... http://www.opensubdiv.com/?p=197
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22:48.47 elf11_ Hmm okay, thanks brlcad for that, then the scaling when transfering from mged to bullet is necessarily and when working in mm there should be some kind of warning about the size of the geometry.
22:55.28 starseeker brlcad: hmm, another open font: http://sourceforge.net/projects/sourcecodepro.adobe/

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