IRC log for #brlcad on 20121109

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04:31.16 *** join/#brlcad ctfiwc (5bc6aec9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.198.174.201)
04:32.17 ctfiwc hi, what's the normal procedure to have my modeled part manufactured?
06:58.15 brlcad ctfiwc: there's no such thin as normal procedure, but it depends what kind of model it is
06:58.37 brlcad most modern manufacturers will take a 3d model, so you can just give them an export in stl or dxf format or similar
06:59.28 brlcad we're not set up well for the ones that take drafting documents (not yet a strength) as you'll have to manually add your dimensioning information
07:03.44 ctfiwc brlcad: yeah I was thinking about exporting 2d drawings but I don't really have an idea what they accept
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07:53.32 archivist depends on the manufacturer and qty, some would have cam software and be able to deal with 3d, some want to read drawings
07:58.18 archivist expect a dialogue as the maker tries to understand the importance of parts of your design, 3d models dont show tolerances well drawings are better there
07:59.54 archivist expect the maker to ask if changes can be made to the design to make something manufacturable at a reasonable cost
10:09.54 ctfiwc archivist: which is usually preferred for small quatity production between 3d and drawings?
10:19.13 archivist depends on the company you are asking, supply both and he supplier has most of the information he needs
10:20.37 archivist on my last job I got both except the customer missed critical(to me) dimensions, so I used the model to get them
10:24.46 archivist I make gears, cam is not cheaply available for my sort of work either
10:40.08 ctfiwc archivist: but with brlcad it seems difficult to provide drawing
10:40.31 archivist well yes :(
10:40.39 ctfiwc or which free software do you recommend if I need it?
10:41.23 archivist I currently dont have a favourite as they all have issues in some area
10:46.48 ctfiwc so developers of brlcad (in foss world I believe developers are also heavy users) just go to use cam directly?
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11:17.29 ``Erik ctfiwc: most heavy users of BRL-CAD are more into CAE than CAM, simulation of someone elses model type stuff... cnc guys seem to like stl, so we have a g-stl exporter... and rtedge can almost kinda sorta produce something kinda closish to drafting
11:19.31 ``Erik I think the common advice for providing technical drawings from BRL-CAD has been to do an rt-edge, load it up in your favorite 2d editor and finish it there, using nirt and/or mged to query specific numbers
11:44.01 ctfiwc ``Erik: hmm thank you all
11:51.23 archivist some items I get just a textual request without a drawing "I need a 18 tooth, 3.6mm crown gear that will attach to a 1mm axle. If the gear and axle could be constructed as a single piece, that would be fantastic"
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13:30.49 ``Erik heh, "carl" "Wat R U Doin" "carl" "Stahp!"
15:13.41 ``Erik file list shortening is live in both irc reporting and the web interface (with ajax fu), w00t
16:11.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53595 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_pt_fu.c: add a period -- as is usual, I checked spelling to see if any other changes were to be made
16:13.04 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53596 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg.c: add a period
16:15.16 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53597 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/nmg/nmg_eval.c: add period
16:16.30 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53598 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/arb8/arb8.c: add period
16:20.28 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53599 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g-x3d.c: add period
16:23.29 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53600 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/iges/conv_drawings.c: add periods, and fix spellings (including ect --> etc)
16:25.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53601 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g-vrml.c: add period
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16:28.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53602 brlcad/trunk/src/mged/edsol.c: add period
16:31.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53603 brlcad/trunk/src/mged/dodraw.c: add period
16:32.56 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53604 brlcad/trunk/src/mged/fbserv.c: add period
16:34.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53605 brlcad/trunk/src/mged/titles.c: add period
16:36.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53606 brlcad/trunk/src/rt/main.c: add period
16:38.18 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53607 brlcad/trunk/src/rt/viewg3.c: add period
16:39.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53608 brlcad/trunk/src/rt/do.c: add period
16:41.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53609 brlcad/trunk/src/libpkg/pkg.c: add period
16:43.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53610 brlcad/trunk/src/remrt/remrt.c: fix spelling of 'whack', and add periods
16:45.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53611 brlcad/trunk/src/libgcv/wfobj/obj_parser_state.h: add period
16:47.39 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53612 brlcad/trunk/src/liboptical/sh_flat.c: add period
16:49.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53613 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/dg_obj.c: add period
16:52.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53614 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/simphysics.cpp: add period
16:53.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53615 brlcad/trunk/TODO: all fastf_t/double conversions are checked and fixed for ntohd/htond.
16:53.38 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53616 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/simrt.h: add SPACE
16:54.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53617 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/annotate.c: add period
16:57.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53618 brlcad/trunk/src/util/loop.1: add period (different place from one that was very recently added)
17:00.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53619 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/fbserv_obj.c: add period
17:01.13 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53620 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_remote.c: add period
17:11.22 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53621 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_stack.c: add periods
17:11.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53622 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/librt/wdb_obj.html: add period
17:13.18 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53623 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/ged.html: add 2 periods
17:13.28 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53624 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/ged.tex: add 2 periods
17:14.25 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53625 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/animmate/rt.html: add period
17:17.18 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53626 brlcad/trunk/BUGS: stave off a half-dozen
17:18.17 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53627 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_stack.c: odd convention, just ...
17:18.52 brlcad ``Erik: not working right
17:18.57 brlcad 53626 was 8 files
17:19.57 ``Erik huh, yeah, it parsed right, just didn't report right
17:19.59 ``Erik the web page looks ok
17:23.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53628 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/hv3/combobox.tcl: add period
17:25.17 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53626 (brlcad/trunk/BUGS brlcad/trunk/TODO and 6 others): stave off a half-dozen
17:25.57 ``Erik strange that it didn't work, it LOOKED correct O.o (rewrote it using cond instead of nested ifs)
17:32.49 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53629 (brlcad/trunk/src/libged/edbot.c brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/tclcad_obj.c): few more scanf precision conversions that went uncaught due to them being wrapped in our own stdard bu_sscanf function.
18:03.40 brlcad fixes one single precision bug, but still at least one more remaining -- custom lights!
18:08.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 53630 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-ogl.c: No particular reason to draw points with 5 pixels, especially without resetting point size afterwards (affects subsequent drawing of the view center point). Drawing with 1 pixel will be consistent with dm-X.
18:37.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53631 brlcad/trunk/src/irprep/showtherm.c: fix spelling of etc
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18:43.50 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53632 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/clip.c: fix spelling
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19:10.38 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53633 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: change 'a' to 'an'
19:17.26 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53634 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/lib/Ged.tcl: fix spelling
19:20.10 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53635 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl: fix spelling
19:22.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53636 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/proe-g.c: fix spelling
19:23.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53637 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/viewpoint-g.c: fix spelling
19:34.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53638 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/rt.tcl: fix spellings, and needed 'no effect' in place of 'no affect' in a long line
19:36.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53639 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/rtwizard/examples/PictureTypeB/intro.txt: use 'effect', not 'affect' here
19:43.24 ``Erik heh http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/search-the-collections/100008375
19:45.50 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53640 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/ell/ell.c: fix spelling
19:49.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53641 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/skt_ed.tcl: fix spelling
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20:26.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 53642 (brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/BotEditFrame.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/GeometryEditFrame.tcl): Added highlighting of points, edges and faces when editing bots.
21:23.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53643 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/books/en/BRL-CAD_Tutorial_Series-VolumeIII.xml: fix spelling, and put space between filename and ending period
21:25.19 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53644 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/libdm/api.html: fix spelling, and notice that possessive form of 'it' takes NO apostrophe to avoid confusion with 'it is'
21:28.22 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53645 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/mged_gui.html: fix spellings
21:30.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53646 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/bindings.tcl: fix spellings
21:41.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53647 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/helpdevel.tcl: fix spelling
21:43.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53648 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/mged/font.tcl: fix spelling
21:44.21 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53649 brlcad/trunk/src/mged/fbserv.c: fix spelling
21:45.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53650 brlcad/trunk/src/mged/track.c: fix spelling
21:54.52 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53651 brlcad/trunk/doc/html/manuals/mged/mged_cmd_index.html: fix spellings (including Transrom --> Transform, right?) but please carefully examine the very long lines

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