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03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 53793
(brlcad/trunk/src/libged/translate_extrude.c
brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/ExtrudeEditFrame.tcl): Updated
the extrude edit panel by getting rid of "Rotate H" and adding
"Move End HR". Also added code to _ged_translate_extrude() to move
H while maintaining perpendicularity among H, U and V without the
random flipping of vectors as seen in tgc (fixing this next).
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03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 53794
brlcad/trunk/src/libged/translate_extrude.c: Tidy up a bit.
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03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 53795
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brlcad |
hm, those are c99, might be better to wrap
them in ulp.c |
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brlcad |
s/better/good/ |
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``Erik |
'cept msvc's c99 support is shoddy, those came
into existance with msvc2010 and only on the 64b version |
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``Erik |
according to some googling O.o |
15:24.24 |
brlcad |
i know, that's why it might be a good idea to
wrap it |
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brlcad |
we don't (yet) require c99 (or at least aren't
supposed to be) |
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brlcad |
so might make sense to wrap it |
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03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 53797 brlcad/trunk/NEWS:
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lgpl c++ 'geometry engine' http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/ |
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18:43.54 |
v4 |
hallo i have a very simple question. |
18:43.57 |
v4 |
may i? |
18:44.37 |
v4 |
i just downloaded the bel-cad package for
mac. |
18:44.58 |
v4 |
when I double click on the app icon |
18:45.17 |
v4 |
it start the mged |
18:45.56 |
v4 |
but i wanted to import a .stl file … and looks
like it's not possible from here ... |
18:46.13 |
v4 |
it's like i should start another application
(the proper BRL-CAD) |
18:46.28 |
v4 |
but i just don't know how to do that
... |
18:46.52 |
v4 |
can anybody, maybe help me somehow? |
18:46.55 |
v4 |
thank in advance |
19:13.08 |
n_reed |
v4: MGED is the main app, but it only edits .g
files |
19:13.20 |
n_reed |
open a terminal and run stl-g on your .stl
first |
19:14.05 |
v4 |
yeah, i was just arrived at his point …
searching on the net … should i execute the command as
root? |
19:14.18 |
v4 |
(by the way thank you) |
19:15.28 |
v4 |
this is the output received |
19:15.33 |
v4 |
<PROTECTED> |
19:15.34 |
v4 |
dyld: Library not loaded:
/usr/brlcad/rel-7.22.0/lib/libwdb.20.dylib |
19:15.35 |
v4 |
<PROTECTED> |
19:15.36 |
v4 |
<PROTECTED> |
19:15.37 |
v4 |
Trace/BPT trap: 5 |
19:17.24 |
starseeker |
v4: are you using the dmg image from
sourceforge? |
19:17.32 |
v4 |
yes |
19:18.55 |
starseeker |
I'm not sure why it's looking for the library
there when we've got an app bundle... |
19:19.18 |
starseeker |
you can probably make it work if you install
BRL-CAD in the /usr/brlcad/ directory |
19:20.23 |
v4 |
ok thanks, i'll try this then |
19:22.35 |
v4 |
shall I have to install the content of the
package in the /usr/brlcad ? Or just drag the icon, as
usual? |
19:23.31 |
starseeker |
I'm not sure - however you do it, try to get
the contents of Contents/Resources/rel-7.22.0 into
/usr/brlcad/rel-7.22.0 |
19:25.53 |
v4 |
ok, but same error |
19:25.58 |
v4 |
dyld: Library not loaded:
/usr/brlcad/rel-7.22.0/lib/libwdb.20.dylib |
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v4 |
<PROTECTED> |
19:26.01 |
v4 |
<PROTECTED> |
19:26.02 |
v4 |
Trace/BPT trap: 5 |
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v4 |
logout |
19:26.30 |
starseeker |
is the file
/usr/brlcad/rel-7.22.0/lib/libwdb.20.dylib present? |
19:28.38 |
v4 |
yeah, good question … and nope. |
19:29.00 |
v4 |
i only have these: |
19:29.01 |
v4 |
libwdb.20.0.1.dylib |
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v4 |
libwdb.a |
19:29.30 |
starseeker |
hmm... |
19:29.52 |
starseeker |
well, you can try symlinking
libwdb.20.0.1.dylib to libwdb.20.dylib |
19:30.18 |
v4 |
seems reasonable ... |
19:30.41 |
starseeker |
if libwdm's link is messed up, there may be
more that are messed up... |
19:30.54 |
v4 |
how is that possible? |
19:31.02 |
v4 |
I just downloaded the whole package |
19:31.05 |
starseeker |
ln -s libwdb.20.0.1.dylib
libwdb.20.dylib |
19:31.13 |
starseeker |
v4: it would be a problem with our
package |
19:31.22 |
starseeker |
brlcad is our expert on that |
19:31.23 |
v4 |
ah, ok … |
19:31.53 |
starseeker |
this would be a temporary manual fix, but it
would get you running |
19:32.06 |
v4 |
i'll try in a few sec |
19:32.53 |
v4 |
similar problems with another
library |
19:32.54 |
v4 |
dyld: Library not loaded:
/usr/brlcad/rel-7.22.0/lib/librt.20.dylib |
19:33.16 |
v4 |
you got it right … maybe more is messed up
... |
19:33.40 |
starseeker |
ok, same solution - ln -s librt.20.0.1.dylib
librt.20.dylib |
19:34.11 |
v4 |
yeah, there's more |
19:34.16 |
v4 |
i try to correct 'em all |
19:34.29 |
starseeker |
v4: that ought to work, once you've got 'em
all |
19:35.36 |
v4 |
ok! |
19:35.43 |
v4 |
(hope so) |
19:41.57 |
v4 |
ok the command stl-g now works |
19:42.13 |
v4 |
but my .stl file must have some
errors |
19:42.52 |
v4 |
… but this is definitely not a software
problem (at least i guess so) |
19:43.06 |
starseeker |
what type of stl file is it? (ascii text or
binary?) |
19:43.47 |
v4 |
i'm sorry: today was the first time i use this
kind of files and software … i do not have any idea of that
… |
19:44.33 |
v4 |
tomorrow i will work at the same 3d scan
workstation, i'll be more prepared ... |
19:44.34 |
starseeker |
if you open your .stl file in a text editor,
what do you see? (i.e. does it just look like garbage, or is there
content you can recognize) |
19:44.44 |
v4 |
i'll try this |
19:44.50 |
starseeker |
alternately, what was the error you
saw? |
19:46.30 |
v4 |
the terminal just got crazy when i prompted
the stl-g input.stl output.g |
19:46.36 |
starseeker |
oh |
19:46.41 |
starseeker |
did you specify an output file? |
19:47.07 |
v4 |
yes … shouldn't i do that? |
19:47.11 |
starseeker |
yeah |
19:47.20 |
starseeker |
oh - that was your literal command? |
19:47.22 |
v4 |
anyway the text editor is garbage … as you
said |
19:47.29 |
starseeker |
try adding the -b flag |
19:47.34 |
v4 |
ok |
19:47.38 |
starseeker |
stl-g -b input.stl output.g |
19:48.10 |
v4 |
way better :) |
19:48.23 |
v4 |
Using solid name: s.stl |
19:48.24 |
v4 |
2067731 facets |
19:48.24 |
v4 |
Making region (r.stl) |
19:50.30 |
v4 |
the .g file is now openable |
19:50.46 |
v4 |
but i don't see anything when i try to open it
in mged |
19:50.58 |
starseeker |
you won't by default. |
19:51.04 |
v4 |
ah, ok |
19:51.08 |
v4 |
… so it's ok! |
19:51.18 |
starseeker |
try the command "tops" |
19:51.24 |
starseeker |
what is listed in the terminal? |
19:51.39 |
v4 |
answered all/ |
19:51.52 |
starseeker |
OK - to see a wireframe, do "draw
all" |
19:52.06 |
v4 |
wow!!!! |
19:52.09 |
v4 |
yep! |
19:52.11 |
v4 |
:) |
19:52.19 |
v4 |
i got to thank you, man ... |
19:52.27 |
starseeker |
if you want the shaded version, I think it's
"draw -m1 all" |
19:52.41 |
starseeker |
(you will also want to turn on lighting if you
do that...) |
19:53.14 |
v4 |
may i ask you one last thin, seeing you were
so kind? |
19:53.34 |
starseeker |
lighting is under the Misc menu in MGED, at
the bottom of the menu |
19:54.19 |
v4 |
yeah … now i see it even better! |
19:54.24 |
starseeker |
sure - what's the question? |
19:54.47 |
v4 |
what i really have to do, is to try to draw
some lines directly on the 3D scan … i mean not converting the file
I got from the scan into a 2D ... |
19:55.01 |
v4 |
do you think is possible? with this or other
software? |
19:55.37 |
``Erik |
sunny beaches, mail parsing makes xml ...
attractive. :( |
19:55.52 |
starseeker |
Um... we shouldn't be converting to 2D
now... |
19:56.01 |
starseeker |
do you you want a 2D line drawing
output? |
19:56.27 |
v4 |
i mean … i have this lines on the scan (it's a
wall!) i have to draw them on the 3d |
19:56.36 |
v4 |
and then maybe have a 2d output |
19:56.49 |
v4 |
(this last part is still not completely
clear() |
19:57.04 |
v4 |
but the most important is to draw the lines
directl |
19:57.07 |
v4 |
on the 3d |
19:57.10 |
v4 |
file |
19:57.28 |
starseeker |
we don't have a way to just straigt-up draw 3D
lines in MGED... you can "fake it" by doing thin
cylindars |
19:57.36 |
v4 |
ok ... |
19:58.09 |
v4 |
now i will tell a stupidity … there is not a
tool such a brush |
19:58.16 |
v4 |
(i mean like photoshop …) |
19:58.48 |
starseeker |
ok, brace yourself... |
19:59.06 |
starseeker |
MGED's primary mode of geometry creation is
command line input |
19:59.28 |
``Erik |
"mged -c" for the pure experience
O:-) |
19:59.28 |
v4 |
yes |
19:59.35 |
v4 |
ok! |
20:00.10 |
starseeker |
If you haven't seen it yet, you want to read
http://brlcad.org/w/images/c/cf/Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
20:00.32 |
v4 |
i think i have to study it, pretty hard
... |
20:00.44 |
v4 |
you mean .. i have to "create" such a
tool? |
20:01.15 |
``Erik |
BRL-CAD's legacy is in CAE/CAA, not CAD... if
it's not a physical 3d bit of geometry, it doesn't fit in very
well, so we don't have good support for things like lines |
20:01.18 |
starseeker |
I'm afraid so. The quickest way I can think
of to get a "3d line" would be to make a tgc, and then edit its
shape to be long and have a small radius |
20:01.43 |
v4 |
ok, got it. |
20:01.55 |
``Erik |
meh, just call it an rcc, less knobs to
twiddle |
20:02.01 |
v4 |
@erik … you should change its name then
;) |
20:03.13 |
v4 |
just kidding of course ... |
20:03.22 |
v4 |
thank you alls for your patience with a super
newbie |
20:03.33 |
v4 |
all* |
20:03.38 |
starseeker |
we're getting there, little by little - the
problem with most of the features associated with "modern" CAD is
it requires a lot of behind the scenes work |
20:03.49 |
starseeker |
v4: not at all - thank you for trying it
out! |
20:04.09 |
v4 |
:) |
20:05.06 |
starseeker |
v4: the introduction to MGED book should get
you going with the basics, and once you're familiar with them you
should be able to produce some decent images |
20:05.37 |
v4 |
ok, i'll read it with big attention |
20:24.09 |
v4 |
by guys … i think i will pass from here in the
future, if i go on with this software … |
20:24.13 |
v4 |
bye* |
20:54.42 |
``Erik |
I wonder if it's safe to say that a section
begins with '^[A-Z][A-Za-z ]*:' |