IRC log for #brlcad on 20121202

00:01.59 brlcad var[idx] is really just a shorthand for *(var+(idx))
00:03.48 caen23 i'm actually surprised at how many people consider this a secret. when i learnt c, it was covered in the pointers chapter of "c programming: a modern approach". this is also one of the most voted answers to a question about c programming tricks on stack overflow
00:05.01 brlcad even if it's covered, it's easy to forget after a few years
00:05.15 brlcad until you leave and breath pointers
00:05.21 brlcad s/leave/live/
00:05.59 brlcad bhlegm: on crit?
00:06.06 bhlegm yes
00:06.31 brlcad you could invoke the select and save the output outside of mysql
00:07.13 brlcad e.g., echo "select * from ...;" | mysql -uuser -p db > outfile
00:07.16 Barakados can someone help me?
00:07.25 Barakados sighs
00:07.42 brlcad Barakados: you need to be much more specific than that
00:08.14 brlcad "I just need to know the basics of driving a submarine, can anyone help me?" .. well .. maybe?
00:08.34 Barakados Ok
00:08.35 brlcad classic matra we repeat frequently here
00:08.37 brlcad ~ask
00:08.37 ibot Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
00:08.39 Barakados https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212
00:09.01 Barakados I haven't gotten any code from the two files
00:09.03 brlcad I know the problem well
00:09.33 andrei brlcad : http://www.valoratsea.com/basics.htm does this help ? :)
00:11.05 brlcad Barakados: so what's your question?
00:11.33 Barakados I have a few: I believe i need the code to start
00:11.54 brlcad be aware that not all bugs and enhancements are created equal -- a problem could very well be too hard for you to tackle and that's okay
00:16.35 brlcad if you try and don't make progress, that's fine and hopefully you learn something either way
00:16.47 brlcad i'll gladly answer your questions, but they need to be specific
00:17.14 brlcad you do need the code, so does that imply you haven't even downloaded the source code yet?
00:18.52 Barakados oh it's on the website?
00:19.14 caen23 brlcad: when can we expect a new round of task reviews? :D
00:22.26 brlcad caen23: yep
00:23.46 Barakados brlcad: downloadingsource now
00:24.06 Notify 03GCI: cheekujodhpur has left the following comment at Write a "BRL-CAD Commands Quick Reference" document http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7991205: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
00:24.11 brlcad today's reviewers are erik and harmanpreet
00:24.19 Barakados can you accept my current task so i can get started?
00:24.45 brlcad I haven't seen erik but I know harmanpreet has been busy reviewing
00:24.56 Notify 03GCI: Ben Bray has left the following comment at Implement a primitive volume function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7987216: Calling rt_volume I wasn't able to figure out how to call the method, either. There isn't much documentation, I'm afraid. Have you figured out how to call it yet? The rtweight command is supposed to return the
00:24.57 Notify volume...
00:25.01 Notify 03GCI: cheekujodhpur has left the following comment at Write a "BRL-CAD Commands Quick Reference" document http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7991205: Contact I need the following information: 1. Your contact... 2. In what form do you want the document?
00:25.31 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Write a "BRL-CAD Commands Quick Reference" document http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7991205: Task Assigned This task has been assigned to cheekujodhpur. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!
00:25.32 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Write a "BRL-CAD Commands Quick Reference" document http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7991205: Task Assigned This task has been assigned to cheekujodhpur. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!
00:25.53 Barakados who is sean?
00:26.01 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Close MGED when both windows are closed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212: Task Assigned This task has been assigned to Sean Bashaw. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!
00:26.07 Barakados :o
00:26.15 Barakados thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou
00:26.31 andrei did we just assign the task simultaneously?
00:28.08 brlcad once a task is claimed, you can start working on it
00:28.52 brlcad we don't reject a claim unless there's some prior problem with that student
00:29.09 brlcad andrei: I think so
00:29.14 Barakados one thin, where can i find the methods for quitting the application?
00:35.35 Notify 03GCI: cheekujodhpur has left the following comment at Write a "BRL-CAD Commands Quick Reference" document http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7991205: Claim Removed The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.
00:39.25 brlcad Barakados: I don't recall specifically, you'll have to look around
00:39.42 brlcad there should be a quit callback as well as an event handler registered that closes the application
00:41.23 brlcad what calls what is a detail to be sorted out as part of the task
00:42.10 brlcad everything should be in src/mged and src/tclscripts/mged .. maybe some window event stuff in src/libdm, but I don't think so
00:42.46 Notify 03GCI: cheekujodhpur has left the following comment at Upgrade Mediawiki website http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974236: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
00:42.46 Barakados ok
00:43.11 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Upgrade Mediawiki website http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7974236: Task Assigned This task has been assigned to cheekujodhpur. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!
00:44.33 brlcad Barakados: just so you know, we're not pretending this is a "simple" task by any stretch of the imagination
00:44.38 *** join/#brlcad Cheeku (Cheeku@14.96.217.11)
00:44.43 Barakados true true
00:44.47 brlcad it very well may be too hard for you to do and that is okay
00:45.14 Cheeku I am on the update mediawiki website task
00:45.22 brlcad give it a try and if you find yourself completely unable to make progress without us feeding you the next bit of information, then you should probably move on
00:45.37 brlcad Cheeku: i'm your POC, I'll contact you in PM
00:46.11 brlcad Cheeku: our server setup is tightly controlled and monitored so there's some work involved to get access established
00:46.36 Notify 03GCI: Erik has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225: Task Needs More Work One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy the requirements needed to complete this task, submit your work again and mark the
00:46.37 Notify task...
00:46.42 brlcad cheeku: have you worked with mediawiki before?
00:47.19 Cheeku As I said...nope..
00:47.28 brlcad what content management systems have you worked with?
00:47.33 brlcad any?
00:48.00 Cheeku no...
00:48.18 Cheeku I don't use any CMS
00:48.26 brlcad you've run apache but never set up any web application?
00:48.34 Cheeku I have set up web applications
00:48.38 brlcad such as?
00:49.01 Cheeku My school alumni site...now down...
00:49.34 Cheeku recently designed new website for sugar labs
00:49.37 Cheeku you can see that...
00:49.41 Cheeku here's the link
00:49.58 Cheeku http://14.96.217.11/sugar
00:52.06 brlcad Cheeku: but specifically, have you ever installed some piece of infrastructure, some open source web app
00:52.57 Cheeku NO
00:53.14 brlcad okay, that's good to know
00:53.21 brlcad have you used mysql before?
00:53.27 Cheeku yes
00:53.35 brlcad accessed it from php, I presume?
00:53.40 Cheeku yes
00:53.48 brlcad accessed it directly on the command line?
00:53.58 Cheeku yes
00:54.14 Cheeku accessed from command-line just to see the records
00:54.31 brlcad okay, and you've used ssh before?
00:54.35 Cheeku no
00:55.02 brlcad hmm, so you'll need to browse the web on that for a tutorial because this task requires accessing a server remotely via SSH
00:55.26 Cheeku alright...doing it..
00:55.30 brlcad ssh is pretty simple, but teaching you how to use it is beyond the project's scope
00:55.47 brlcad you can try ssh'ing into your own machine to see how it works
00:56.13 brlcad the rest we'll discuss in private to get your account set up
00:59.26 Notify 03GCI: Erik has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225: needs some minor changes 1: I don't understand why you'd be undefining "major" and "minor", can those be removed? 2: all variable declarations should come at the beginning of the block, before RT_HYP_CK_MAGIC. The a...
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01:01.24 bhlegm Cheeku ikr this stuffs intense
01:02.04 brlcad there be erik
01:03.31 ``Erik didn't realize I was reviewing today O.o didja throw the mentor schedule on a wiki page, or just in that one email that I can't access for the next 2 weeks? :D
01:04.07 brlcad heh, yep e-mail
01:04.21 ``Erik I think I have notify set up to catch commit emails, but I want to see a couple commits go through before I add the channel
01:04.26 brlcad Mon: Daniel, Sean
01:04.27 brlcad Tue: Matt, Erik
01:04.27 brlcad Wed: Harmanpreet, Rai
01:04.27 brlcad Thu: Andrei, Daniel
01:04.27 brlcad Fri: Sean, Matt
01:04.29 brlcad Sat: Erik, Harmanpreet
01:04.31 brlcad Sun: Rai, Andrei
01:06.06 caen23 awesome, there's a bug in svn that doesn't let me finish running svnplot on the whole repo, and the resolution seems to be recompiling svn
01:08.46 ``Erik if a 'gitstats' exist, we have a git mirror, too :D
01:11.00 Barakados i have a question
01:11.10 caen23 ``Erik: i can't seem to find it?
01:11.11 Barakados how do i compile mged from the source
01:11.32 ``Erik http://crit.brlcad.org/brlcad.git/
01:13.56 caen23 ``Erik: thanks, cloning right now :D
01:14.38 caen23 Barakados: have you tried this? http://brlcad.org/wiki/Compiling
01:22.29 bhlegm brlcad for the gallery, do you want the rating (that star stuff) to be as it was before as well?
01:25.36 Notify 03GCI: Sean Bashaw has left the following comment at Close MGED when both windows are closed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945212: Claim Removed The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.
01:25.47 andrei heh
01:31.47 bhlegm i dont think i can do that
01:35.21 Notify 03GCI: Sean Bashaw has left the following comment at Create a technical screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8022221: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
01:35.51 Notify 03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Find and fix at least 10 spelling mistakes in at least 10 different files http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7959223: Task Reopened Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.
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01:38.11 Barakados i am going to work on the pdf, i see some in there
01:54.25 brlcad bhlegm: ideally, yes
01:54.35 bhlegm ok :'(
01:54.43 brlcad what?
02:12.34 brlcad ``Erik: ?
02:14.17 bhlegm uhmm
02:18.17 bhlegm gallery2's rating system is using the number of rates and finding the average, but in piwigo a rate is counted per user.. i really don't know how to do it
02:18.34 ``Erik something went nutso and is chewing memory on crit like a mofo, oomd my image
02:18.35 bhlegm per user : every rate is recorded in a table
02:19.08 bhlegm as a row*
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02:26.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53929 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/fb/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/fb/Makefile.am): apply gci patch (http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8030204) from stefi.stoyanova that converts the libfb manual pages to docbook xml format. untested, but did remove the old manual pages while applying the patch.
02:26.48 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53930 brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: credit stefi.stoyanova for contributions migrating fb manual pages to docbook.
02:27.49 caen23 brlcad: thanks a lot for reviewing my task :D
02:29.05 ``Erik apache went nuts and chewed up all the memory O.o
02:29.37 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53931 (brlcad/trunk/include/ged.h brlcad/trunk/src/libged/adc.c and 6 others): really impressive -- apply cezar's gci patch (http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8017204) that decouples libged from libdm.
02:30.08 starseeker brlcad: did they update the fb patch? there was one man page missing
02:30.15 caen23 brlcad: for the "compile brl-cad w/ llvm 3.1" one, would it be enough to run cmake > cmake.txt and make > make.txt and simply upload these files? i've been using llvm to compile brlcad and no errors occurred, so there's no patching needed
02:30.30 starseeker llvm? O.o
02:30.50 ``Erik doh, brlcad committed the one I was reviewing
02:30.56 starseeker just built with clang 3.1...
02:31.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53932 brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: double-billing, credit cezar for his work fixing code now (libged/libdm decoupling) in addition to the doc work.
02:31.36 starseeker using the static analyzer, even...
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03:01.07 caen23 starseeker: is the file you were saying was missing from the fb task named "cmap-fb.xml" by any chance?
03:05.48 brlcad starseeker: I didn't review them by name, but counted 48 .1 file and same .xml files I thought
03:06.15 caen23 starseeker: ugh, nevermind, i forgot to do something
03:06.18 brlcad but yeah, he can fix it ;)
03:10.17 brlcad ``Erik: just trying to help :)
03:10.41 brlcad could clear out that last one remaining, I'm not doing that one
03:40.02 starseeker fb-cmap I think was missing
03:40.17 starseeker caen23: feel like fixing some more man page errors? :-P
03:41.15 caen23 starseeker: yeahp, i'm currently on src/util, and i'll fix what's left next :D
03:42.18 starseeker sweet
03:42.59 starseeker I think you'll need to start by applying the patch from the previous src/fb, seeing if fb-cmap is missing, then fixing the errors in those (new) files...
03:43.58 starseeker brlcad: I see the old src/fb .1 files are gone, but I don't see the new xml files - did you do the svn add?
03:44.13 caen23 it wasn't missing, i forgot to update cmakelists and it wouldn't build :D
03:44.37 starseeker yep
03:46.21 starseeker hang on...
03:51.40 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53933 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bw-fb.xml =================================================================== and 465 others): Add man1 xml files from fb.
03:56.20 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53934 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt: Add fb-cmap.xml - appears to have been missed in initial conversion.
03:57.03 starseeker caen23: that should fix the CMake configure stage, but by default the build won't work now because we turned on strict DocBook building and these fb man pages don't qualify
03:58.10 starseeker give me a few minutes...
03:59.26 caen23 starseeker: hmm… i think i'm finished w/ the src/util task, but i'm not really used to svn, so i'm not going to commit the changes. but i'll upload the patch to gci, and could you take a look and apply it if everything's ok?
03:59.52 starseeker caen23: sure, if you're more comfortable with that
04:00.07 starseeker I won't be able to properly test it until I squash the fb errors
04:00.13 starseeker hopefully that'll be quick
04:00.44 caen23 here's the link :D http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970249
04:01.51 starseeker caen23: nice job on the libged patch, by the way
04:02.16 starseeker tries to recall if he's every had brlcad tell him that a patch was *exactly* what he was looking for...
04:02.21 starseeker s/every/ever/g
04:02.47 caen23 what i'm mainly worried about is CMakeLists and Makefile.am. what i did was i removed all the man references from src/util and added the new .xml's to man1/en
04:02.57 starseeker that's correct
04:04.49 caen23 heh, thanks about the libged patch. i spent 4 hours because of a missing asterisk, lol. a function signature was something like (struct dm, char **), and i wrote a wrapper as (struct dm, char *). kept getting segfaults and had no idea why until i checked the function i was wrapping
04:06.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53935 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bw-fb.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/cell-fb.xml and 35 others): Ah, crud - gummed up the patch application. Try again.
04:08.21 starseeker shoot - these are still db4
04:08.58 caen23 mine? or the fb ones?
04:09.04 starseeker the fb ones
04:09.12 starseeker gotta fix those before I can get to yours
04:10.32 caen23 :D
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04:18.50 Skriptkid Are the Surface area tasks also 1-point tasks?
04:29.19 brlcad starseeker: oops, somehow they didn't add
04:30.02 brlcad and you're right fb-cmap doesn't exist
04:40.55 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53936 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bw-fb.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/cell-fb.xml and 36 others): GCI commits didn't pass strict for fb - fixing.
04:45.05 brlcad starseeker: heh, I'd already created a gci task to make all these remaining pages pass strict later
04:45.13 brlcad still waiting for two more sets to come in
05:01.22 starseeker brlcad: oh, sorry
05:01.47 starseeker brlcad: it was a build-breaking issue, so I figured it couldn't wait
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05:03.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53937 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/cell-fb.xml brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/cmap-fb.xml and 35 others): Use same header as src/conv conversions.
05:04.27 starseeker brlcad: I had mentioned the fb-cmap page being missing earlier - guess it got lost in the noise
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05:06.19 starseeker caen23: I"m getting a "malformed patch" error
05:06.38 starseeker caen23: go ahead and commit - I'll straighten it out if there's any problem
05:06.58 starseeker remember to include the full URL in the commit message
05:07.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53938 brlcad/trunk/INSTALL: minor INSTALL tweak
05:08.16 brlcad starseeker: except there's two more big ones coming -- maybe revert it back to non-strict until after that task
05:08.30 starseeker growl
05:08.32 starseeker I suppose
05:09.08 brlcad it's too much work to do it at the same time, and too much work to break up the tasks .. all we have to do is wait a lil :)
05:10.00 brlcad starseeker: any binaries you'd like to see crash less (where we haven't identified bugs)
05:10.05 brlcad already have mged, archer, and rt
05:11.19 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53939 brlcad/trunk/CMakeLists.txt: Back off on strict XML until we're done with GCI conversion of man pages, to allow for task breakout of conversion and strict fixes.
05:11.19 starseeker erm
05:11.30 starseeker tries to remember what he's crashed lately
05:12.03 starseeker brlcad: did you get a chance to try the clang static analyzer? If any of those are legit, there may be some GCI clean-up work
05:12.29 starseeker isn't sure how to evaluate the results for false positives...
05:14.02 starseeker brlcad: nothing's leaping to mind with the crash question
05:15.03 caen23 starseeker: hmm… i've tried uploading a new patch http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970249
05:15.55 starseeker caen23: there we go
05:17.04 starseeker thanks
05:17.38 caen23 so is it fine, or have i broken something? :D
05:17.46 starseeker checking...
05:20.39 starseeker caen23: looks good
05:20.45 starseeker you're go for the commit
05:21.01 caen23 alright, thanks :D
05:21.13 starseeker want to do it yourself or shall I?
05:21.31 caen23 i think i'll try it
05:21.43 starseeker cool - remember, full URL in message :-)
05:22.30 caen23 hmm… is this message fine? :D "Convert src/util man pages to DocBook XML (GCI: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7970249)"
05:22.40 starseeker caen23: yep
05:23.24 starseeker caen23: in fact, I think these all validate too
05:23.32 caen23 mine?
05:23.40 starseeker brlcad: were you going to create a separate task for util validation?
05:23.43 starseeker caen23: looks like it...
05:23.53 caen23 oh, yes, i took care of it
05:24.03 starseeker ~caen23++
05:24.19 caen23 lol :D
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05:24.23 starseeker wow. If brlcad put up a util validation task, make sure you claim it
05:24.55 caen23 nope, looks like he didn't
05:25.11 starseeker caen23: he probably will... how long did you spend on util, all told?
05:27.06 caen23 probably less than 30 minutes, can't tell exactly, but after running doclifter, the only errors were related to entities, and i wrote a script to get rid of the most common ones. if you add my trying to understand how svn works… probably more than 1h
05:28.49 starseeker caen23: we'll see what brlcad wants to do
05:29.10 starseeker did he put up any other Docbook tasks yet?
05:30.52 caen23 the only one that's open right now is the one for converting the rest of the files, as far as i can see
05:31.58 caen23 this is where i look for tasks :D http://www.google-melange.com/gci/org/google/gci2012/brlcad
05:34.00 starseeker caen23: did your commit go through?
05:34.28 caen23 just a sec :D
05:34.38 Barakados oh and can someone accept my new task?
05:35.32 starseeker Barakados: I'm not a formal GCI reviewer, but one of them should be around later
05:36.22 caen23 hmm… i can't seem to commit because svn:mime-type is not set. let me try one more thing
05:37.20 starseeker caen23: ah - this may help, although you may have to revert and re-do the adding of the xml files: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Mime-types
05:38.54 caen23 what i did was i edited config to include "*.xml = svn:mime-type:application/xml" under section auto-props
05:39.57 starseeker caen23: we normally use *.xml = svn:mime-type=text/xml;svn:eol-style=native
05:40.48 caen23 ugh, sorry then. i got mine from wiki, and it was written that text/xml is deprecated :-??
05:41.02 caen23 wikipedia*, not wiki
05:44.34 caen23 seems there's no getting around the revert :( so after i do svn revert, i should do svn add * inside man1/en?
05:44.43 starseeker right
05:44.57 starseeker but just revert the xml
05:45.01 starseeker not the CMakeLists.txt
05:45.08 starseeker svn revert *.xml
05:45.46 starseeker caen23: you'll have to mention the mime type thing to brlcad - I'm not sure why xml wouldn't be classified as text, but maybe someone has a reason...
05:47.07 caen23 actually i might be wrong, it was deprecated in an expired draft
05:48.19 starseeker makes a note to self to put his superlu and spooles CMake build files on github, in case they should prove necessary down the road...
05:50.06 Barakados can someone help me out?
05:50.22 Barakados how do i use the man to xml software on my mac?
05:50.41 starseeker Barakados: um. You install python, then run the script?
05:50.53 caen23 Barakados: do you have homebrew installed?
05:50.55 Barakados when i run it it is blank
05:52.09 caen23 are you running it from the terminal, or are you double-clicking the file inside the archive?
05:52.19 Barakados double click
05:52.31 caen23 open Terminal.app inside Applications/Utilities
05:52.42 Barakados i know terminal
05:52.54 Barakados give me the commands to use :P
05:53.05 Barakados that's all i need thanks :D
05:53.11 caen23 doclifter -x <path to file to convert>
05:53.24 Barakados that makes sense
05:53.40 caen23 where doclifter means the whole path to doclifter. for me, it's ~/Downloads/doclifter-2.9/doclifter
05:54.01 Barakados i know
05:54.07 Barakados i go to the directory
05:54.09 Barakados easier
05:54.27 caen23 yeahp
05:55.24 brlcad starseeker: no I hadn't tried, but there are two "compile brl-cad with clang" tasks using latest release and trunk
05:55.42 brlcad static analyzer is still one to be added
05:55.43 Barakados command not found
05:56.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD:caen23 * 53940 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/util/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/util/Makefile.am): -----------
05:56.12 caen23 inside doclifter-2.9, you run ./doclifter, not doclifter
05:56.33 brlcad validation task isn't yet posted, there's still one more docbook task pending
05:56.56 Barakados brlcad, can you validate my docbook task?
05:57.26 brlcad what?
05:57.35 Barakados I signed up for a task
05:57.46 Barakados https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8005210
05:58.00 Barakados if you give it to me i can have it done in an hour
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05:59.37 brlcad caen23: alas the way subversion (and other) revision control diffing works, the files need to be text/*something* in order for tools to become content aware
06:00.10 brlcad Barakados: term is assign, not validate ;)
06:00.14 Barakados sorry
06:00.55 brlcad no worries
06:01.42 caen23 brlcad: ah, didn't know that. these tasks the first time i've used svn :D
06:02.00 brlcad most repos have that issue
06:03.42 Barakados how do i use svn add?
06:04.14 Barakados nevermind, googled
06:04.32 Barakados never mind, still need help
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06:11.17 Barakados so...
06:19.25 starseeker wonders if there are any stepcode tasks that could be GCI scoped?
06:19.50 brlcad yeah, tricky there -- undoubtedly are
06:20.28 brlcad could craete tasks to commit our changes one at a time to the git repo, that'd be a hoot
06:21.14 starseeker that's a thought - march down this list? http://stepcode.org/mw/index.php/BRL-CAD_patches
06:21.33 brlcad maybe, or up from our commits -- just do them all
06:21.55 caen23 brlcad: regarding the llvm tasks, they plan to release 3.2 on the 16th. perhaps the "build with trunk" one is not really necessary?
06:22.07 brlcad caen23: nope, that's the point
06:22.22 starseeker brlcad: there are some of ours that aren't applicable to stepcode (Marks lists 'em down at the bottom of that page...)
06:22.39 brlcad building with trunk now is probably nearly as good as building with 3.2 in a couple weeks
06:22.57 brlcad more interested in what fails
06:23.09 starseeker 3.1 I wouldn't expect to fail
06:23.17 starseeker trunk, probably yes
06:23.26 caen23 brlcad: makes sense
06:23.28 brlcad i wouldn't either but someone can at least verify that
06:24.13 brlcad welp, closed a half dozen, created a half dozen .. not too shabby
06:24.23 brlcad still has several dozen to be added
06:25.04 brlcad and that's not even counting tasks spawning from gci work recently completed
06:26.42 starseeker brlcad: should caen23 get two completed tasks? his util .xml conversion not only was successful but passed strict at the same time
06:26.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53941 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt: fix indenting
06:28.12 starseeker kicks off a distcheck and hits the hay
06:31.12 starseeker gets spooles and superlu on github
06:31.36 starseeker oh yeah, cassowary... heh
06:32.40 brlcad starseeker: he can claim and close out the validation task after he finishes his currnet (the last set)
06:33.37 starseeker brlcad: cool. Wasn't sure what you wanted to do - just wanted to make sure the issue didn't get washed away in the GCI tsunami
06:34.27 brlcad nope, it's there, just unpublished
06:35.57 starseeker reflects that if we could somehow chop the stepcode merge into segments that would allow for successful completion, that would be a major step towards qualifying for fedora repos...
06:36.23 starseeker would have to make a FindSTEPCODE.cmake that actually works though
06:39.04 starseeker brlcad: you'd have a better sense than I would of whether this would be a sensible GCI task, but perhaps it would be helpful to have a "how to set up a Windows PC for BRL-CAD compilation" document?
06:39.59 starseeker isn't sure if that makes sense, given that it may turn obsolete relatively quickly...
06:41.03 brlcad was intending to after these are all fixed: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7948214
06:41.14 brlcad that's the "not even counting tasks spawning from gci work recently completed"
06:53.25 Barakados brlcad: is xml files docbook?
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07:06.15 bhlegm sorry if this is a stupid question, but is there a trash bin on the server?
07:16.28 Barakados all that's left is to compile the source, and then send in a patch
08:21.20 Barakados i have errors in files i didn't ediy
08:21.22 Barakados *edit
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08:45.16 Barakados ok then
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12:10.06 Ashish101 ???
12:10.17 Ashish101 <PROTECTED>
12:10.24 GrantMercer015 where are you from?
12:10.55 GrantMercer015 it's the dead of the night for our mentors, dont be expecting help during this time on brlcad
12:11.24 GrantMercer015 usually 7-8 hours from now theyll be on answering our questions. Till then use this:
12:11.49 Ashish101 ??
12:11.50 Ashish101 What
12:11.59 Ashish101 Yes and its just 6 PM in here
12:12.22 GrantMercer015 BRL-CAD Cross Reference, google it and look for brlcad.org/xref/ along those lines
12:12.36 GrantMercer015 the server doesnt work over in japan so i cant give the exact link
12:13.11 Ashish101 Japan :P
12:13.23 Ashish101 U hv any site ?? blog ?>??
12:13.42 GrantMercer015 but the site searches brlcad source for specific keywords(identifier search), if you want to find any function declaration or varaibles search on the site
12:13.50 GrantMercer015 No site or blog
12:14.31 Ashish101 visit mine @ ashtricks.com
12:14.33 GrantMercer015 found a link, nevermind. http://brlcad.org/xref/ident
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14:36.40 maths22 brlcad: crit.brlcad.org does not have a necessary php extention enabled: hash
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15:05.24 brlcad harmanpreet: hello
15:05.35 harmanpreet hi..
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15:20.49 caen23 brlcad: how can i change the way xmllint is called when validating docbooks?
15:31.28 brlcad caen23: what's up?
15:31.55 caen23 brlcad: i need to add a flag to the invocation so that it can build
15:32.35 caen23 there's a line <xi:include href="man.macros"> that generates an error, and this seems to be the solution: https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200509/msg00089.html
15:39.49 brlcad caen23: shouldn't that be <xi:include xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude" href=...
15:40.21 caen23 hmm… let me try
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15:41.38 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Model a "C" using BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7971228: looking better That's looking much better but you went from too much cut out of the C to too little. Look at the C's in the font on this page even (your "Changes..." for example). Notice how the C is cut around 1:30 and 5:30 on the face of a clock and cut at an angle.
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15:41.48 brlcad may need an xpointer=... element too
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15:42.15 brlcad oof
15:42.15 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Reorganize MGED menu http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8030206: on the right track You are definitely on the right track. That's looking fantastic. I noticed you expanded to some panels -- if you like, you can keep those separate and we can turn them into another task. It's enough work to just focus on the menus, no? :)
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15:42.28 Notify 03GCI: Johannes Schulte has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225: little corerction for better understanding the contest I just saw this comments and wanted to say, that, afaik, points do also count after the 3 for the T-Shirt, because you, as the organization, can choose
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15:42.32 Notify 03GCI: Harmanpreet Singh has left the following comment at Make mged 'tables' command not call system() http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8007219: Deadline extended The deadline of the task has been extended with 1 days and 0 hours.
15:42.33 Notify 03GCI: Gmercer015 has left the following comment at Make mged 'tables' command not call system() http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8007219: Disregard my first question I fixed the function to mimic the sort unix command exactly, never mind the question about my qsort! I couldn't find an edit button on my main post so i left this reply
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15:42.36 Notify 03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203: u^1^2 In the u miu X u miu matrix, what does (u^1)^2 and (u^2)^2 mean?
15:42.37 Notify 03GCI: Melange has left the following comment at Set up Jenkins continuous integration for BRL-CAD http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7952233: No more Work can be submitted Melange has detected that the deadline has passed and no more work can be submitted. The submitted work should be reviewed.
15:42.38 Notify 03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203: Tensor product! Disregard that, I've just figured it out.
15:42.39 Notify 03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203: typo? In the tensor product, should that be u or umiu?
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15:42.41 Notify 03GCI: Angelyn has left the following comment at Create an ISST screenshot or animation http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945221: Claim Removed The claim on this task has been removed, someone else can claim it now.
15:42.42 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Reorganize MGED menu http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8030206: sure It can happen. Just make sure you submit all the menu changes for this one and then claim the panels one that will be published after this one is closed.
15:42.43 brlcad waits for the noise to subside
15:42.43 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Create an RTWizard screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8034204: Task Needs More Work One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy the requirements needed to complete this task, submit your work again and mark the task as complete once you re-submit your work.
15:42.44 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Create an RTWizard screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8034204: that's not rtwizard You made a screenshot of 'mged', but that's the wrong application. This task specifies making a screenshot of the 'rtwizard' tool. That's a different application. You'll also want something a little more interesting than a cylinder.. ;)
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15:42.47 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Tudorica has left the following comment at Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
15:42.49 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225: how's that a correction? Johannes, how is that different than what I said? Points won't matter SO LONG AS YOU MAKE IT INTO THE TOP-FIVE. If a student completed 10 surface area functions and another student completed 40...
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15:45.16 ``Erik you're the one who didn't want quelling on long buffers :D
15:45.32 brlcad you didn't see my message the other day then :P
15:46.30 ``Erik nope, been fairly busy the last few days
15:46.35 brlcad would be nice if those gci tasks were more concise, wordy as all hell
15:46.55 ``Erik and getting ready to head back out soon, looking for a tree
15:47.14 ``Erik I was thinking about chopping the messages up a little, or adding better parsing or something
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15:47.54 brlcad GCI: Andrei Tudorica * ld like to work on this task.
15:47.58 brlcad oops
15:48.20 Notify 03GCI: Lolacio has left the following comment at Find and fix at least 20 spelling mistakes in at least 5 different files http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8033204: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
15:48.32 brlcad GCI: Andrei Tudorica * Create prototype 2D CAD drawing(s) (http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7985229): ... message ...
15:48.41 brlcad something like that
15:49.16 brlcad ``Erik: and it seems to have some off-by-one-word error
15:49.18 brlcad 10:42 < Notify> the...
15:49.25 ``Erik https://github.com/erikg/cl-cia/blob/master/maildir.lisp #'do-gci-email ( starts at #'process-brlcad-gci-mail-dir ), let me know when ya have the pull request ;)
15:49.38 ``Erik yes, I just fixed that one while it was clearing the queue
15:49.47 brlcad smells a gci task
15:49.55 Notify 03GCI: Skriptkid has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for hyperboloids of one sheet (HYP) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7983225: Got It Just wanted to know. Because I was seeing last year's tasks list and I saw that some tasks had more than 1 point. So just asked.
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15:50.15 Ashish101 @brlcad: you there ??
15:50.25 ``Erik if you can find a lithp weenie to do it, I don't care where the pull request comes from O.o but we're heading out the door in a minute, so'z *shrug*
15:51.01 Ashish101 I want to know where can i find the functionalities of stuuf located in settings tab of Mged
15:51.05 ``Erik mebbe a cl-ppcre replacement bit to shrink it, or a rfc2388-binary split of the mime types and a closure-html parse of the html version to break it to the important parts
15:54.24 ``Erik (btw, haven't seen a commit msg for bz yet)
15:57.05 Notify 03GCI: Johannes Schulte has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for triangle meshes (BOT) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7968224: Some Questions As the first draw is now ready, I have some questions: 1. Where should the function be placed (just at the end of bot.c?) and how should it be called? 2. How should the result be...
16:02.30 Ashish101 NO one is online that can be of some help !! ... Any idea when brlcad come online ??
16:03.59 andrei He was around several minutes ago, just ask him what you want to ask
16:04.06 Ashish101 I asked
16:04.13 Ashish101 Above but no replys !! :(
16:04.37 andrei <Ashish101> @brlcad: you there ??
16:04.38 andrei <Ashish101> I want to know where can i find the functionalities of stuuf located in settings tab of Mged
16:06.39 andrei you should try to be more specific, often it's better to say what you want to do and not how you want to do it when you ask for help. He isn't answering because he is probably busy, but he will answer your question :)
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16:50.22 M0J0E As I don't want to spam this channel with unnecessary long posts, I think it is the best to just post the link to my task, where I also posted my questions, concerning this task : http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7968224. Thank you in advance!
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17:09.22 Ashish101 @belcad: u there ??
17:18.51 Silvrous I have a problem with a variable. I declared a mat_t object, but when I try to use it, such as M_AT[0][0]=1, I get error: subscripted value is neither array nor pointer
17:22.37 andrei Silvrous, you re probably reffering to a structure
17:23.45 Silvrous sorry, yes. I just realized, the mat_t is defined as a 1D array, isn't it?
17:24.02 andrei I need to have a look at the code, what file are you working with
17:24.04 andrei ( path)
17:24.46 Silvrous it's defined in /include/vmath.h
17:25.39 Silvrous I'm working on /src/librt/primitives/arb8/arb8.c , but there's no other mat_t's used there.
17:25.47 andrei typedef fastf_t mat_t[ELEMENTS_PER_MAT];
17:26.03 andrei as far as I know fastf_t is a primitive(similar to float)
17:26.47 andrei mat_t should be a matrix, I m trying to find a usage example
17:28.07 Silvrous Yes, that's what I'm trying to use it for. I assumed it was indexed as [][], but from what I see, it's just linear with a rule for the element placement.
17:30.35 andrei you can use it as mat_t [] and it works
17:31.27 Notify 03GCI: Gala has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: Unclaiming Article Task Hi Sean and Harmanpreet, I think I must be in over my head. :) I think everyone has been really nice and helpful and patient, but I have basically spent a week on this one project, and I do not seem to...
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17:31.39 Silvrous what is the rule for indexing? line by line, column by column, right?
17:32.30 brlcad Ashish101: that tone is not at all helpful
17:32.59 Ashish101 KK
17:33.14 andrei Silvrous, I didn't manage to find a direct access to the matrix
17:33.18 brlcad you need to be patient and respectful if you want anyone to be polite back to you
17:33.26 andrei for example, you can print it with bn_mat_print
17:33.46 Ashish101 Kk::::...
17:33.46 brlcad i'm not the only one that can help you unless you're working on a web task that requires an account be craeted
17:34.31 andrei Silvrous: the prototype is bn_mat_print("string - description", mat_t);
17:35.10 brlcad ``Erik: I'll make a bzflag commit in a few, but was just expecting notify to be joined and start chirping ;)
17:35.51 Silvrous Thanks. What I need though is to create one from scratch.
17:36.27 brlcad Ashish101: and andrei DID help you -- you did not actually ask a question
17:36.38 brlcad "I want to know where can i find the functionalities of stuuf located in settings tab of Mged" is not a question
17:36.42 brlcad I want a puppy
17:36.53 Ashish101 :P
17:37.06 brlcad I'm serious, IRC does not tolerate this
17:37.20 brlcad please read http://brlcad.org/wiki/IRC and ...
17:37.21 brlcad ~ask
17:37.22 ibot Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
17:37.59 brlcad after you have done that, come back and ask your question(s) and we'll see if we can give you some help
17:38.20 andrei Silvrous: hold on a bit while I find the body of that print function, it might help you understand better how the function works.
17:38.48 brlcad please be respectful of other people's time, we're not just sitting here waiting to answer questions that you're capable of researching yourself -- we want to help people who are genuinely interested in contributing to open source
17:39.40 andrei Silvrous, I found what you are looking for : /src/libbn/mat.c. Have a look there.
17:39.56 andrei let me know if anything is unclear after that.
17:40.28 brlcad andrei: nice, that comment should be moved
17:40.33 brlcad (to vmath.h)
17:40.57 Ashish101 Q- "What does the Function in Settings>transform>adc " Actually do ..
17:41.20 brlcad "adc" is our "angle distance cursor"
17:41.26 Silvrous andrei: Thanks a lot!
17:41.38 brlcad it's an expert interface for measuring angles and distances for displayed geometry
17:41.59 brlcad I believe there is a write-up about the ADC in our tutorial documentation on the website
17:42.06 Ashish101 thanks
17:42.27 andrei brlcad: you mean the bn_mat_print func prototype?
17:42.51 Silvrous I've also found a problem in the brl-cad cross reference http://brlcad.org/xref/search the search always gives return value 2
17:42.55 brlcad andrei: no, the comment at the top of mat.c
17:43.01 brlcad it explains the layout of a mat_t
17:44.09 andrei ah, I ll move it now then.
17:45.08 brlcad notes the first /** @} */
17:45.13 brlcad is wrong .. should be removed
17:45.26 brlcad there's one at the bottom of the file
17:46.37 andrei Shouldn't I keep the first one and remove the last one ?
17:46.40 brlcad Ashish101: and there's no way you read that entire IRC page in 2min before asking our question -- you do that at your own risk
17:46.54 brlcad no, remove first, keep last
17:47.23 brlcad the whole file gets wrapped in addtogroup mat { ... } so that it captures any implementation /** */ doxygen comments
17:47.43 brlcad and there are a few in there, so it should be kept
17:48.06 brlcad if there weren't any, then you could remove the addtogroup mat and { and } lines
17:48.38 brlcad andrei: note that the TODO comment has nothing to do with a mat_t :)
17:48.47 Notify 03GCI: John has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
17:48.49 andrei yes, now I realised what you actually wanted me to move
17:49.09 andrei starting from here : /** @file libbn/mat.c
17:49.15 Ashish101 I just read this section -- which according to all of you is important for me !--- IRC Etiquette :)
17:50.53 brlcad that is the more important section, but you should read the whole page and read the page about "How to Ask Questions the Smart Way"
17:51.52 brlcad you'll get much more and much better help that way
17:52.23 brlcad harmanpreet: would you like a reply here or on irc?
17:52.36 brlcad bah, here or e-mail
17:53.42 harmanpreet brlcad: anywhere you think more suitable.
17:53.52 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: Task Assigned This task has been assigned to John. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!
17:54.14 brlcad harmanpreet: I believe in open communications so long as it protects individual privacy where needed, so we can talk about it here ;)
17:54.30 brlcad the task is not a personal matter
17:54.30 harmanpreet brlcad: sure
17:55.04 brlcad so I actually told him to uncheck the textures, because I consider our support overly primitive compared to other systems
17:55.47 brlcad we can do texturing but our uv parameterization is not configurable, some objects can't be textured (like meshes!), and textures must be in raw pix format
17:55.59 brlcad that's too many caveats
17:56.18 brlcad we do, however, have extrusions
17:56.24 brlcad not the extrude command, but actual objects
17:56.34 brlcad if you import a dxf with a 2D sketch, you can extrude that
17:56.46 brlcad http://brlcad.org/tmp/primitives/Primitives3_grouped_labels.png
17:57.44 brlcad as for the task, hopefully the student has learned something from the exercise
17:58.05 harmanpreet even I too :)
17:58.33 brlcad I don't trust the commercial checks entirely, but the big-picture passes a sanity check
17:59.14 brlcad so still I leave it up to you to decide if he's done
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17:59.31 brlcad he's certainly put more than 2 hours into the project and that's the general guideline
17:59.37 brlcad bhlegm: howdy!
17:59.47 bhlegm hi :)
18:00.02 harmanpreet so he deserves acceptance... :)
18:00.10 caen23 brlcad: i think i've completed the "convert remaining man pages" task, plus validation, but i haven't removed the man pages from the src/, because when i tried to, i kept breaking something. for some folders, it's easy, but others are more involving, and i haven't quite figured out how to properly remove the docs from those
18:00.15 andrei brlcad: sorry to hop in the middle of the discussion but would it seem unreasonable to complete that task and open another task to correct the remaining/potential issues ?
18:00.26 harmanpreet brlcad: but am really feeling bad for Gala.. :(
18:00.38 brlcad why's that?
18:01.00 brlcad caen23: what breakage?
18:01.43 brlcad andrei: it depends, but in general I do not think that is unreasonable IF they've put more than two hours of effort in
18:01.58 brlcad i.e., implying that the scope was misjudged
18:02.14 brlcad harmanpreet: which one is gala?
18:02.52 harmanpreet student recently working on http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213
18:03.00 andrei brlcad: the one that had to write the news article : http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213
18:03.06 andrei ah, sorry
18:03.19 harmanpreet yeah..
18:04.13 brlcad harmanpreet: ah, that gala -- so what you can do is create a task just for him/her that is to just interview jordi
18:04.33 brlcad I can publish it and we can try to get them to claim it
18:05.07 brlcad howdy starseeker ;)
18:05.18 harmanpreet that's nice :)
18:05.21 starseeker brlcad: hmm?
18:05.25 andrei wasn't that task already published? I think I have seen that one before
18:05.26 starseeker reads backlog
18:06.01 brlcad starseeker: nothing, just saying hi :)
18:06.06 Notify 03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203: finally I assumed it was umiu, the other possibility didn't make sense since umiu wouldn't have been used anywhere. areasimple.patch is my old function,now fixed, and areamatrix.patch is the...
18:06.23 brlcad andrei: it was the same task
18:06.29 brlcad interview him and write an article
18:06.38 brlcad they interviewed him and posted the interview as the article
18:06.48 brlcad replied that wasn't adequate and they let the task go
18:07.04 andrei ah, I see.
18:07.31 Notify 03GCI: Silvrous has left the following comment at Add a primitive surface area function ... for polyhedron with 4 to 8 sides (ARB8) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8028203: Ready for review The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
18:08.41 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: clarification John, Since this task was already worked, write your article based on the question+answer responses from Gala's effort and post your article to our CPP. Gala, If you like, we can create a task to just interview Jordi...
18:09.34 brlcad andrei: where's that bn.h/vmath.h commit? :)
18:09.45 brlcad !notify week
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18:09.51 andrei I m redownloading brlcad from checkout
18:09.54 brlcad ah
18:10.06 andrei apparently I have plenty other files, and I don t know how I can wipe out any files that aren't included in checkout
18:12.20 brlcad svn status | grep '^\?' | xargs rm
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18:12.45 brlcad be very careful with that though as it will delete everything that SVN doesn't recognize which will be any works-in-progress
18:13.35 brlcad you can take care of the '?' file not found messages with an | sed 's/\? //g'
18:13.36 starseeker brlcad: heh howdy
18:14.00 starseeker caen23: don't worry too much about removing the old man pages
18:14.14 starseeker caen23: if you like, you can just submit a patch with the new ones
18:14.24 andrei <PROTECTED>
18:14.25 brlcad he can commit it
18:14.33 starseeker yeah, that too
18:15.28 starseeker removing the old man pages is a bit involved due to one of the more sophisticated symlink utilizations for BRL-CAD data files
18:15.37 starseeker (or can be, at least)
18:15.53 starseeker s/involved/confusing
18:16.43 caen23 i noticed some components have a doc folder, and it's those i can't really wrap my head around
18:16.58 starseeker caen23: can you give an example?
18:17.02 Notify 03GCI: John has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: template Sean, is there any pre-defined template for writing the article, or I'm free to choose the layout?
18:17.39 caen23 src/other/tcl
18:17.50 starseeker scowls at release mode... why does my gentoo box always have to find a new potential uninitialized value usage...
18:17.56 starseeker caen23: ah - forget src/other
18:18.17 starseeker caen23: those are (mostly) third party codes that we bundle
18:18.27 starseeker both for convenience and configuration control
18:19.07 caen23 starseeker: ah, alright then. i'll just commit the additions to docbook/system, if that's ok
18:19.14 starseeker if you converted those man pages that might actually be an interesting thing for some of the projects, but it's separate from BRL-CAD's man pages
18:19.17 starseeker nods
18:20.11 starseeker stepcode may be interested in DocBook man pages and the possibilities they represent - would have to ask Mark
18:21.53 brlcad new task: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7979224
18:22.37 brlcad starseeker: because you have gcc 4.6+ there
18:22.41 starseeker brlcad: is this just different compilers seeing different things again? http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1971694
18:22.53 starseeker gcc version 4.5.4 (Gentoo 4.5.4 p1.0, pie-0.4.7)
18:23.09 starseeker gentoo hasn't ported to 4.6+ fully yet
18:23.22 brlcad ah, well then there's probably more
18:23.36 brlcad unoptimized builds are auto-initialized even though the compiler is not required to do so, optimized builds are not initialized (so you get the warnings)
18:24.12 starseeker braces himself and flips up the dsp.c file...
18:24.32 brlcad the bigger question is why the logic is written in such a way that it assumes it's zero -- that's usually a potential logic bug elsewhere that is only masked by initalizing to zero
18:25.01 starseeker log message at 1186
18:26.08 starseeker I guess the main question then is whether to initialize the structs at 2563 or... ?
18:27.09 brlcad if those other warnings are also debug messages, then zero-init is fine
18:27.16 brlcad it's if/when any aren't debug
18:28.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:popescuandrei * 53942 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/mat.c: /* V M A T H . H * BRL-CAD * * Copyright (c) 2004-2012 United States Government as represented by * the U.S. Army Research Laboratory. * * This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or * modify it under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License * version 2.1 as published by the Free Software Foundation. * * This library is
18:28.16 Notify distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but * WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU * Lesser General Public License for more details. * * You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public * License along with this file; see the file named COPYING for more * information. */ /** @addtogroup mat */ /** @{ */
18:28.18 Notify /** @file vmath.h * * @brief vector/matrix math * * This header file defines many commonly used 3D vector math macros, * and operates on vect_t, point_t, mat_t, and quat_t objects. * * @brief matrix representation * 4 x 4 Matrix manipulation functions... * * Matrix array elements have the following positions in the matrix: @code * | 0 1 2 3 | | 0 | * [ 0 1 2 3 ] | 4 5 6 7 | | 1 | * | 8 9 10 11 | | 2 | * | 12 13 14
18:28.20 Notify 15...
18:28.38 brlcad yay, first commit?
18:28.52 andrei yes:)
18:29.09 starseeker uh... did the file contents end up in the commit message?
18:29.33 andrei I didn't use -m because it was supposed to ask for the message, but for some reason it didn't
18:29.40 andrei sorry
18:29.47 starseeker ah - phew
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18:29.56 starseeker was afraid another subtle notify bug lurked
18:33.57 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Create an RTWizard screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8034204: problem with your shift key? Are you having some problem with your shift key? You should only capitalize the first letter of a sentence and proper nouns (someone's name). There are a couple dozen example databases installed within the share/brlcad...
18:37.14 starseeker brlcad: 1186 is a debug message, but src/librt/primitives/dsp/dsp.c:1293 doesn't seem to be
18:39.49 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53943 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/dsp/dsp.c: Initialize vars to quell warning in release build mode with gcc 4.5.4 on gentoo linux.
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18:40.22 starseeker caen23: which src/other man pages did you convert?
18:40.44 starseeker the URToolkit and step directories may be of interest as part of a separate task
18:41.05 caen23 it might have been all of them :-? i found them using `find . -name "*.1"`
18:41.11 starseeker ah
18:41.34 starseeker OK, yeah - save the URToolkit and step files
18:42.01 starseeker we manage libutahrle/URToolkit - it's abandoned, so we're the only folks maintaining it now
18:42.17 starseeker that means we can do what we want - including DocBook man pages
18:42.50 starseeker the step pages as DocBook may appeal to Mark, so hang on to those too - we'll ask him
18:43.21 caen23 starseeker: hmm… i'm currently in the final stages of making a commit with all the man's. should i remove something afterwards?
18:43.41 starseeker caen23: don't worry - I'll sort it out
18:43.46 caen23 thanks :D
18:43.58 starseeker go ahead and get it committed, so you can snag another task ;-)
18:44.11 M0J0E as I don't want to spam the mailing-list, how long should I wait after posting questions in IRC and under the concerning gci task, till I should post them on the mailing list. And moreover, should I ask these questions via e-mail just my mentors, or the whole mailing list?
18:45.16 starseeker MOJOE - unless it's a personal matter like getting an account set up, all communications for open source development should be open
18:45.46 bhlegm brlcad
18:45.47 starseeker generally people will read the backlogs and address questions as they come up
18:46.28 bhlegm can i split my task into transferring gallery2's info to the database that piwigo is supposed to have...
18:46.53 starseeker M0J0E: since you posted your questions on your GCI task (which is fine) the thing to do is wait for a GCI reviewer to address them there
18:47.27 starseeker M0J0E: you don't have to sit idle - you can always be learning more about BRL-CAD while you're waiting for specific answers
18:47.35 M0J0E perfect, thanks.
18:47.48 Notify 03BRL-CAD:caen23 * 53944 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man5/en/CMakeLists.txt): Convert remaining man pages to DocBook XML (GCI: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7960234)
18:47.52 starseeker that will give you a head start when you eventually select your next task
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19:06.09 brlcad starseeker: yeah, that looks like exactly the case I'd be worried about
19:08.33 brlcad starseeker: it shouldn't be getting to uninitialized memory there
19:08.45 brlcad rather, unset
19:09.37 brlcad isect_ray_cell_top() logic is probably wrong and/or isect_ray_dsp_bb()
19:15.38 starseeker interesting - clang's static analyzer did catch the 1186 issue
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19:16.47 bhlegm brlcad why can't i remove gcibhlegm/ignore_me/?
19:20.21 Notify 03GCI: Alexander Dimitrov has left the following comment at Create prototype CAD GUI layout diagram http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7960223: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
19:21.07 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53945 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man5/en/CMakeLists.txt): Remove src/other man pages from DocBook conversion - while the utahrle and step man page conversions are potentially useful, src/other contains separate projects so they'll need to be set up as separate builds in their
19:21.10 Notify respective projects. Revision control will hold the conversions until we're ready for them
19:21.28 brlcad caen23: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7959236
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19:22.31 caen23 can i upload any patch?
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19:24.15 andrei Sorry, I have had a power failure.
19:24.31 andrei brlcad: I ran svn commit -F mat.c vmath.h
19:25.29 andrei does this look correct : svn commit -F mat.c vmath.h -m " moving comments"
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19:32.19 brlcad andrei: I can only imagine that it's the -F that is the problem
19:32.39 andrei there was no editor opening up however
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19:32.44 brlcad usual: svn commit -m "my message" file1 path/to/file2 file3
19:33.14 andrei ah, great, thanks. I will use that instead
19:33.44 brlcad yeah, that's the problem: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.6/svn.ref.svn.c.commit.html
19:33.52 brlcad -F means take message from that file
19:34.06 xavortm some guide for what exactly am i supouse to do here: http://goo.gl/Qkfz7 ? Thx!
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19:35.59 brlcad starseeker: task to readd src/other pages as xml?
19:36.26 starseeker brlcad: not sure.
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19:36.33 starseeker brlcad: here's what I'm thinking...
19:37.07 starseeker the libutahrle and URToolkit code we're now the maintainer of, so that's a viable candidate for DocBook conversion
19:37.37 starseeker to do that right though, I need to set up the DocBook macros for libutahrle as a valid subproject
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19:38.08 starseeker brlcad: IIRC, libutahrle and URToolkit were once the same project?
19:39.11 brlcad starseeker: OR .. there's a task to set up the docbook macros
19:39.23 brlcad unless it'd take more time to explain/mentor it than it'd take to do it
19:39.36 starseeker brlcad: yeah, I'd better do that
19:39.37 xavortm what exactly "design" means here: http://goo.gl/Qkfz7 ?
19:39.52 starseeker isn't sure how the DocBook macros will work in a subbuild - may need to fix a few things
19:40.00 starseeker worth doing, but not an easy task for a student
19:40.32 starseeker let me finish up clearing out the old man pages from our build now that the xml ones are in, and I'll take a look at the utah build
19:40.49 brlcad starseeker: can always make the very first task to try it out, have them just tell you whether it worked or not and give you the output
19:41.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:popescuandrei * 53946 brlcad/trunk/include/vmath.h: Moved mat_t description from mat.c to vmath.h
19:41.16 brlcad caen23: so that implies we have no more manual pages anywhere and all in doc/docbook are strict valid?
19:41.24 brlcad andrei: yay
19:41.34 andrei Sorry for that mess :(
19:41.39 starseeker brlcad: what I was getting at - can I set up a "utahrle" project that has both libutahrle and URToolkit, with appropriate build settings and goodies? Once that's set up, then plugging the utah man pages back in makes a lot of sense
19:41.51 caen23 brlcad: as far as i'm concerned, yes
19:41.54 brlcad xavortm: you're supposed to do what the description says, can you be more specific?
19:42.08 starseeker has been thinking about that for a while, since setting up a utahrle project is one of the things we need to do for the Fedora guys
19:42.24 starseeker As long as I'm here, I'd like to try setting that up now if that's OK
19:42.25 brlcad wonders if he can get the GCI students to help roll out an entire binary release
19:42.41 brlcad that'd be awesome
19:42.48 brlcad starseeker: sure, whatever works :)
19:42.59 xavortm i mean - design a psd file or write html/css
19:43.02 starseeker brlcad: that'll be a few hours, but once it's ready it'll be a lot clearer for student tasks
19:43.14 brlcad xavortm: sure, either of those options would be perfect
19:43.22 brlcad you can prototype in anything you like
19:43.31 starseeker could even have some of the Windows guys test the functionality of the URToolkit tools there - I don't know that it's ever been done
19:43.32 brlcad pen and paper would work, just ... a lot harder
19:43.54 xavortm and the functionality must be what is shown on the given .html file ?
19:43.56 starseeker unit tests and/or regression tests for those tools would be nice, since we're maintaining them and their man mages and all
19:43.58 brlcad xavortm: have you used any CAD software before?
19:44.06 starseeker s/mages/pages
19:44.12 xavortm nope, i am web designer :)
19:44.16 brlcad xavortm: be sure to watch the 10min video in that link
19:44.26 starseeker kinda orthogonal to BRL-CAD proper though... would that be a problem for GCI?
19:44.37 xavortm ok, i will thanks!
19:44.39 brlcad xavortm: OH, so you may also be interested in designing a similar prototype for our new website
19:44.45 brlcad that task isn't posted yet, but will be soon
19:44.51 brlcad keep an eye out after this one
19:45.09 xavortm Okay! :)
19:45.58 brlcad xavortm: you may want to check out http://pencil.evolus.vn/Default.html
19:47.36 brlcad there are other similar services, but the kind of output expected will be a demonstration of what a user might want a CAD interface to look like if it were easy to implement as such
19:48.03 brlcad starseeker: that is not orthogonal, anything that helps our project, we decide what we want
19:48.23 brlcad I just made a task to fix up Notify, for example
19:48.53 brlcad I also reached out to the tcl/tk devs to see if there was anything we could have done to help them (especially w.r.t. aquatk)
19:49.02 brlcad but got no takers there so far :.(
19:49.17 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53947 (brlcad/trunk/src/anim/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/anim/Makefile.am and 36 others): Whoosh - remove the man pages converted to xml.
19:50.05 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using Dev-C++ http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945220: Feedback The latest file that you uploaded contains errors in build log. You are welcomed to come and discuss them on IRC. Completing the task involves sucessfully building BRL-CAD. As you can see, your build fails at 0%.
19:50.17 brlcad xavortm: also notice the examples subdir
19:50.20 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD using Dev-C++ http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945220: Task Needs More Work One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to satisfy the requirements needed to complete this task, submit your work again and mark the task as complete once...
19:52.17 brlcad wonders if more students would claim the tasks to write a new manual page if they weren't all grouped together
19:53.35 andrei if the deadline for an ActionNeeded task expires, does it return automatically to reopened?
19:54.39 brlcad after a 24 grace, I believe so
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19:55.22 brlcad andrei: so the dev-c++ doesn't have to get a full compile since there might be some reason in our build system that it fails, but he does need to investigate in case it's something simple
19:56.03 brlcad andrei: there should also be no hesitation to extend a task if it's clear that the student IS working on the task and it's just taking them a long time
19:56.17 andrei from what I ve seen, it fails at first file (0%)
19:56.27 brlcad yep, so something else is probably wrong
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19:56.50 brlcad first thing to do will be to get them on our latest svn sources, that's 7.22.0 and is nfg
19:56.54 brlcad clean checkout
19:58.31 andrei <PROTECTED>
19:58.54 andrei seems not
20:00.03 andrei the number of students that are familiar with cad and csg is a lot greater than I expected
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20:12.03 starseeker brlcad: OK, have a sourceforge project up: http://sourceforge.net/projects/utahrle/
20:12.20 starseeker oh - I went with git, will that cause problems?
20:12.44 starseeker had better check before he starts doing rework...
20:13.24 starseeker caen23: does everything look OK man page wise?
20:13.37 starseeker (remember, leaving src/other man pages alone for now)
20:13.46 starseeker think I got everything
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20:15.28 caen23 starseeker: hmm… it looks ok to me. i haven't tried converting to pdf to see what it looks like, but validation wise, it's fine
20:16.26 Notify 03GCI: John has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: Alpha version Sean, I have already been working on an alpha version of the article (260 words). I've also sent a message to Jordi with a few more questions. Is there any way I can show you what I've already done, or you prefer to...
20:16.33 starseeker I'm seeing six man pages left in the tree: find . -type f -name \*.1 |grep -v other
20:16.50 starseeker the pixtx.1 page is fine, it's commented out in both build systems
20:17.11 starseeker brlcad: as an aside - is there something we need to do to pictx to make it viable/useful?
20:17.57 starseeker enigma probably counts as external, but I'd say the other four could be converted
20:19.08 caen23 starseeker: hmm… could you give me their names? i haven't deleted the ones i converted, and the trunk still contains them
20:19.56 starseeker bench/benchmark.1, bench/pixcmp.1, misc/brlcad-config.1
20:20.05 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Write BRL-CAD News article on .deb/.rpm builds http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7945213: i'll wait I'm okay waiting until you're done. ;)
20:20.11 starseeker have to ask brlcad about src/external/Unigraphics/ug-g.1
20:21.26 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53948 (brlcad/trunk/src/librt/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/librt/Makefile.am): Caught a leftover .3 file that has an xml file - remove.
20:21.59 caen23 oh, sorry. i've only checked inside src :-" i'll do the others now and post the patches to my current task
20:22.19 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Add missing documentation (for any ONE command) http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972228: instead of the DMG Will, Instead of using the DMG, I suggest compiling BRL-CAD from source and following the usual instructions. As long as you're not on 10.8 and you have the dev tools (XCode) and CMake installed, it should go...
20:22.24 starseeker caen23: there are also 4 in doc: doc/plot3.5 doc/bw.5 doc/pix.5 doc/cmap.5
20:23.33 xavortm hey, brlcad, i made something just now, please tell me if i am in the right direction: http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/7E/A7/d0a7721e71197ea7.jpg Thanks!
20:23.52 starseeker caen23: no problem. just making sure we qualify for brlcad's "no more manual pages anywhere" criteria (which presumably excludes src/other - that's a different story)
20:24.23 starseeker Trying to convince the Tcl/Tk devs to switch to DocBook man pages is not something starseeker has the stomach for
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20:28.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53949 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/CMakeLists.txt: Oh, right - don't ignore librt.3 anymore either.
20:31.05 starseeker brlcad: could you add me as an admin to the tkhtml project on sourceforge?
20:31.30 Notify 03GCI: Gala has left the following comment at Interview BRL-CAD's maintainer, Jordi Sayol http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7966232: Ready for review The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
20:32.10 Notify 03GCI: Sean has left the following comment at Upgrade Drupal website http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7958216: installed The hash extension is now installed.
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20:33.55 Notify 03GCI: Alex has left the following comment at Write a tutorial on compiling BRL-CAD with XCode on Mac OS X http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8022212: Re: looks really good Ah, I see. Originally, I wan't exactly sure how far I was supposed to go. I might have to look at that other task so that I can finish up the rest of it. Thanks for giving me the credit anyway. ~...
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20:39.22 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53950 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/fbed.xml: tweak for strict XML with fbed man page.
20:41.21 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53951 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/lgt.xml: Tweak lgt man page to pass strict.
20:43.07 xavortm brlcad? Online?
20:43.45 andrei notify !ask
20:43.50 andrei bah
20:43.58 xavortm ? :)
20:44.05 andrei Xavortm: ask your question, brlcad will answer when he 's here :)
20:44.22 andrei I wanted the bot to output a message regarding asking questions, but I failed for some reason
20:44.35 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53952 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/ug-g.xml: ug-g strict tweak.
20:44.38 starseeker !notify ask
20:44.39 Notify Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
20:44.52 andrei that one.
20:46.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53953 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/irprep/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/irprep/Makefile.am): pictx was converted - since it's supposed to be commented out, do so at the xml level.
20:46.57 xavortm I understand. So, my question: Do i need to redesign it? What i did is making better looking design (inspired by the sample files). Here is what i did: http://store.picbg.net/pubpic/7E/A7/d0a7721e71197ea7.jpg I can add more functionality and better UI. I wana know if i have to make design for all the slides displayed in the .html file or just a few to display the functionality. Is this site or
20:46.57 xavortm application? Operation system? Or i dont need to know them ^^ ? Thanks!
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20:51.01 starseeker caen23: ok, except for the bench and misc pages (plus the unigraphics one) mentioned earlier, it looks good here now
20:51.03 Notify 03GCI: Petar Stanev has left the following comment at Create an artistic screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025213: Task Claimed I would like to work on this task.
20:51.24 starseeker caen23: passed a strict build after a few tweaks, and I think I've got all the old man pages removed
20:52.50 caen23 starseeker: ok, awesome. i'll get the rest fixed, but i'm surprised it didn't pass validation at first. i mean, i knew something was wrong because i had to use 'sudo make' to get around a 'permission denied' issue. is this what you've tweaked? and if so, what did you do? :D
20:53.14 starseeker caen23: um. No, that's not what I saw
20:53.19 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 53955 brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS: credit Alex Perez for his GCI work writing a tutorial on generating an XCode project for BRL-CAD.
20:53.39 starseeker I just saw a few validity things, mostly having to do with synopsis brackets
20:53.42 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Create an artistic screenshot http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8025213: Task Assigned This task has been assigned to Petar Stanev. You have 48 hours to complete this task, good luck!
20:53.53 starseeker caen23: you may want to try a clean checkout
20:54.11 starseeker caen23: since you're down to the last few, I'll turn XML strict back on by default
20:54.33 andrei I'm working on eliminating the globals DBIP,srv_argc and srv_argv from gtools/gt_transfer.c
20:54.42 caen23 oh, then something was off on my machine. yep, i plan on doing a clean co and i'll also try building with llvm-trunk
20:55.21 andrei DBIP would probably be easily contained by my_data structure(similar to the client), however I'm not sure where I should fit srv_argc and srv_argv
20:55.35 brlcad caen23: you should really never need to run sudo
20:55.41 brlcad at least not to compile/test brl-cad
20:55.43 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 53956 brlcad/trunk/CMakeLists.txt: DocBook conversion just about complete, thanks to awesome GCI work. Turn strict XML validation back on by default.
20:56.11 brlcad applications will run from the build directory 'bin' directory
20:56.21 brlcad so you don't even need to run make install
20:57.28 caen23 brlcad: i am aware of this, but a full clean co & build took way longer, so i chose to go with that for this purpose only
20:57.49 brlcad andrei: in a traditional program, you shouldn't need to pass ac, av around except maybe to one handler function
20:57.49 starseeker brlcad: what did you want to do about the src/external/Unigraphics/ug-g.1 man page?
20:58.36 brlcad that's our header
20:59.05 brlcad should have gotten converted with the "all remaining" task, but the instructions might have ignored external
20:59.12 starseeker think they did
20:59.29 starseeker caen23: ok, go ahead and pick off src/external/Unigraphics/ug-g.1 too
20:59.31 brlcad i know the other tasks did, but i thought the all remaining was relaxed
21:00.08 brlcad xavortm: to you're on the right track, but some more thought needs to go into the example/content
21:00.18 xavortm Hey, can you give me answer to my question (if possible ^^) i am new into all of this
21:00.59 brlcad xavortm: so the GUI video was fully general, but our interface wouldn't be -- we're not designing publications, pamplets, etc
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21:02.13 xavortm Well, i wonder what i should do when i dont know what is going to be displayed. I dont understand you well, sorry :((
21:02.17 brlcad xavortm: this is a prototype for an application operating environment, so some hybrid between appliation and operating system, but specialized to CAD and geometry
21:03.32 brlcad xavortm: so sure, you don't know the content necessarily but you're going to need to become a little bit familiar with what a modeling application needs to offer
21:04.37 xavortm I see, so i think for the functionality? I decide what the program should do (totaly stick with CAD stuff)
21:04.48 xavortm am i right?
21:04.55 brlcad more importantly for the prototype you've started, how does the list of tasks expand, can I search them, where's the search box, is there, etc
21:05.05 brlcad right, that's a great start
21:05.54 xavortm Well, as i saw in the screenshots, it is not expanding,but it is starting page. I just merge the home page and the pages when you click.
21:06.12 brlcad starseeker: does pictx exist?
21:06.21 xavortm (one last thing) should i work on what i did and add more things or start new one? :)
21:06.34 brlcad and if it does, then why is the header commented out?
21:08.28 starseeker pictx.c does
21:08.36 starseeker but it's not built
21:08.51 brlcad ah, so gci task
21:09.04 brlcad what others are disabled that should be enabled?
21:09.29 starseeker brlcad: not sure offhand why that's disabled, but it's not just me - even the Makefile.am had it turned off
21:11.26 brlcad we'll find out
21:13.11 starseeker brlcad: sorry if you've already checked scrollback - did you see my git and tkhtml questions?
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21:18.43 brlcad http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7958220
21:19.54 starseeker brlcad: looks good
21:19.58 brlcad starseeker: yeah, no problem with git -- I'd not created it because I was wanting to also change the name
21:20.10 starseeker does utahrle work?
21:20.31 brlcad works great
21:20.34 starseeker sweet
21:20.46 starseeker I'll start reworking the build tonight then
21:21.02 starseeker if you can give me admin on the sf tkhtml project, I'll try and get that buzzing too
21:21.16 starseeker two fairly easy boxes to check on the Fedora requirements list
21:21.27 brlcad thinks starseeker needs to work on delegation while we have minions!
21:21.47 starseeker oh, don't worry - once I've got the basic setup I want there'll be lots to do!
21:22.49 brlcad we should populate the repo with our entire history
21:22.56 brlcad so it's preserved
21:23.07 andrei I edited the server_ciao callback like this: server_ciao(struct pkg_conn *UNUSED(connection), char *buf, struct db_i *dbip). I'm getting some errors on pkg_switch callbacks tho. " /home/andrei/brlcad_Commits/src/gtools/g_transfer.c:248:2: error: excess elements in struct initializer"
21:23.49 andrei should I add an extra element? server_helo doesn't seem to need any additional param tho
21:23.57 starseeker the only 2 things that *might* be tkhtml GCI tasks that I can think of are teaching FindTCL to use tclsh and tcl::pkgconfig (probably too hard unless they have some CMake knowledge) and seeing where else in the code that fix we had to make for Win64 might apply
21:24.18 starseeker s/make/apply - someone on google groups actually figured it out
21:24.27 starseeker brlcad: urk.
21:24.44 starseeker I already did an initial upload
21:24.52 starseeker let me see if I can get it to start over...
21:25.04 brlcad andrei: sounds like you're misunderstanding the callback struct
21:25.09 brlcad for pkg_switch
21:25.26 starseeker brlcad: do you know if there's anyone at Utah we could contact that might have the authority to change the license to one of the standard OSI approved licenses?
21:25.33 starseeker one-offs suck
21:25.48 andrei brlcad: I assume that pkg_switch has some sort of function pointer with fixed parameters
21:26.21 andrei actually, I ll have a look.
21:28.01 andrei this is what I think I should change : typedef void (*pkg_callback)PKG_ARGS((struct pkg_conn*, char*));
21:29.01 xavortm How many window designs i should make?
21:29.47 brlcad starseeker: there certainly is and I probably know them and this is not something they'll want to think about or try to press with their legal folks
21:30.01 starseeker mutter
21:30.11 starseeker OK, we'll live with it then
21:30.14 brlcad go ahead and try, but I don't think you'll get traction
21:30.24 brlcad not from any academic in today's environment
21:30.37 starseeker nods - pm me the name/contact info?
21:30.49 starseeker costs nothing to at least ask
21:31.13 Notify 03GCI: BrendenD15 has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239: I fixed it That's alright, I got it fixed now. Now I'm working on configuring the source code so that my machine can build it. However, it may take my machine close to the full hour to compile the code. So it will be past the deadline...
21:31.18 brlcad suggest just contacting their cs or legal department after everything is set up, or relicensing it yourself with a compatible license
21:31.34 starseeker brlcad: ah, k
21:32.13 brlcad the latter is a kosher option, just have to find terms that fit
21:32.23 starseeker was just concerned about the bit where we either have to include the source or inform them the source is available for no extra charge
21:32.33 brlcad i.e., were complying with the new license implicitly complies with what they wrote
21:32.57 brlcad most of the gnu license have that same requirement spelled out
21:33.22 starseeker nods - suppose LGPL2 may be viable then
21:33.24 brlcad "making available" is not defined, so there's a HUGE amount of room there
21:33.41 starseeker prefers the simplicity of MIT/BSD these days... must be getting old
21:33.45 brlcad I'd go down the list and see if anything less restrictive would even fit
21:33.49 brlcad like mit
21:34.12 brlcad but warrants walking the list if you really want to find something
21:34.32 starseeker brlcad: was just thinking ahead to the Fedora packaging discussions
21:34.33 brlcad lgpl might fit, but would have to read the legalese for each statement and consider them individually
21:34.38 Notify 03GCI: Andrei Popescu has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239: extension Could you please upload your work so far? If you made any progress, I will extend the deadline for the task so don't worry about it!
21:35.01 brlcad starseeker: half of urtoolkit is probably already in fedora
21:35.53 brlcad that's such an old fundamentla library
21:36.05 starseeker ok - maybe it's not a problem then
21:36.09 andrei I eliminated DBIP by adding struct db_i * as param to the callbacks, does that look right? ShouldI look for an alternative way?
21:36.18 brlcad xavortm: depends how long each takes you
21:36.34 brlcad I'd rather have one be complete than 10 half-assed ;)
21:36.47 brlcad xavortm: be sure to include BRL-CAD branding somewhere in the interface
21:36.51 starseeker http://bzflag.bz/~starseeker/urt-copyright.txt
21:36.58 xavortm i have some experience, the one i show you took me 10 minutes
21:37.11 brlcad either BRL-CAD instead of Task Center or our logo somewhere or BRL-CAD in a status line somewhere or one of the other corners, etc...
21:37.35 starseeker brlcad: hmm - which version of urt did we start with? I finally found a tarball of urt3.1b somewhere
21:37.38 brlcad starseeker: yeah, I've read that before
21:37.50 starseeker ah, k - sorry
21:38.01 brlcad that's why I'd have to sit down with that and lgpl (or whatever) myself to verify each clause is covered
21:38.30 brlcad it's just a simple mapping problem
21:38.42 starseeker I probably should leave well enough alone until the Fedora guys actually object
21:39.00 xavortm but ... last thing i want to ask - I must design cad user interface or redesign what you display and add more functionality? I loost this part :))
21:39.06 starseeker how much did we actually change in urt, aside from breaking it into two directories?
21:40.39 starseeker ok, nevermind...
21:40.44 starseeker yipe
21:42.57 starseeker brlcad: if I need to, I'll just re-create the history in single directory form by walking through the changes
21:46.31 brlcad starseeker: that works except that the dates end up being wrong
21:46.38 brlcad should be able to migrate and cull history
21:47.15 brlcad those libs have history that even predates src/other that would be good to preserve
21:47.22 Notify 03GCI: BrendenD15 has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239: Sounds Good I'll send in the work so far.
21:47.32 brlcad the data historian in me begs for preserving everything
21:47.47 starseeker brlcad: it is preserved in BRL-CAD's repo though
21:48.09 starseeker oops
21:48.16 starseeker rebuilds git with svn support this time...
21:48.17 brlcad that's not the same :)
21:48.24 brlcad that's like saying our history is preserved in CVS
21:48.43 brlcad pulling it forward to SVN has been a life-saver on many an occasion
21:48.46 brlcad and just plain cool
21:49.17 brlcad xavortm: so you have a lot of artistic license to do either
21:49.38 brlcad xavortm: the real goal is that we end up with something we can use or at least be inspired by
21:49.41 starseeker brlcad: doing so won't be easy - that multiple path thing means we have two separate histories
21:50.03 starseeker mutter - rebuilding git *and* subversion
21:50.23 brlcad xavortm: so that means thinking about what our users might want to see, thinking about what design would be most effective
21:50.27 starseeker could just put the original dates in the commit messages...
21:51.02 Notify 03GCI: BrendenD15 has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239: Side Note I should note that I tried configuring the code using the CMake GUI and Visual Studio. The program did configure the files correctly, however, I did not keep these because I was only testing that Visual Studio was working...
21:51.39 brlcad xavortm: if we had a single BRL-CAD application that I started up, I could see there being something like the "task center" you show with common activities encompassed .. but within a CAD context, I'd definitely expect it to offer different options and be prepared to scale
21:52.10 brlcad starseeker: I think you are lacking faith in the ability of git and svn to give you tools that let you do that
21:52.33 starseeker considers that statement and finds it accurate
21:52.35 brlcad both have tools to dump a repo and perform changes on the history through time
21:52.37 starseeker we'll know soon
21:53.25 starseeker brlcad: for even more fun, I managed to scare up old tarballs of urt 3.1a and 3.1b
21:54.11 brlcad starseeker: so what other tools are disabled that we can whip up tasks for?
21:54.19 brlcad easy to do while I still have this window open
21:54.31 starseeker looks
21:56.21 starseeker they could *maybe* try and get those mged regression tests I did a long while back working
21:56.43 starseeker in regress/mged
21:56.50 xavortm Can i write a doc file explaining my ideas of how it should work?
21:58.00 starseeker brlcad: you might have them look at that old namegen.c code in librt, if you can document the rules you want it to follow for name generation
21:58.02 brlcad xavortm: sure
21:58.12 brlcad xavortm: or that can be a separate task
21:58.24 brlcad expects a lot of thought and effort to go into design
21:58.35 brlcad discussing it is good
21:58.55 xavortm It would be great :) I need to make 3 tasks ^^
21:59.03 brlcad starseeker: heh, maybe but lets knock out the lower hanging fruit first :)
21:59.22 brlcad xavortm: we can create more tasks for different prototypes
21:59.45 brlcad like one for that task center, another for geometry browsing, another for editing, another for credits screen, another for ...
22:00.10 starseeker it's actually a bit hard to tell what's turned off - the pix one popped out because it's man page was also commented out and it was left standing
22:00.21 brlcad starseeker: so none other disabled into the bowels of a CMAKEFILES list
22:00.23 xavortm I see, tommorow i will work on that :) Huge thanks for the help!
22:00.37 brlcad xavortm: thanks for your efforts
22:00.43 brlcad hops off to din din
22:00.57 starseeker is looking - the trick is sometimes you have to CMAKEFILES a file even when it is used cause it's only used on some platforms
22:01.26 brlcad regular expression ftw
22:01.35 brlcad just list them all and look for .c files ;)
22:01.47 starseeker <snort> that could be a GCI task - they'd probaby do it faster/better than I
22:01.50 brlcad shouldn't have source disabled
22:01.57 starseeker remrt might be one...
22:02.08 brlcad remrt builds
22:02.11 starseeker not on Windows
22:02.16 starseeker rttherm is another one
22:02.17 brlcad that's different
22:02.27 brlcad I mean tools like pictx that are just outright disabled
22:02.31 brlcad i know I've seen a couple
22:02.31 starseeker ah
22:02.51 brlcad things that weren't migrated or were even disabled in autotools build
22:03.17 starseeker brlcad: what about the remaining (relatively simple) lex/yacc -> perplex/lemon conversions?
22:03.53 starseeker pixtest.c in src/rtthem seems to be off
22:05.37 starseeker pictx.c and pixtext.c are the only two I"m spotting at the moment
22:07.35 brlcad starseeker: those are several days each
22:07.49 brlcad parser rewrites
22:08.02 brlcad too hard too, need to know a lot
22:08.43 brlcad they could write a perplex example and a lemon example
22:12.16 starseeker nods - that would be handy
22:12.50 starseeker starts git svn on src/other/libutahrle and heads for dinner
22:14.41 starseeker brlcad: about source being disabled - we have a number of cases where we have source code for one OS in one file and another OS in another file
22:14.47 starseeker did you want cases like that too?
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22:24.38 Notify 03GCI: BrendenD15 has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239: Sorry for the Wait I thought I'd sent file, but I apparently didn't realize that I had to click another button after I uploaded the work. Sorry about that.
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22:36.06 GrantMercer015 Hello everyone, is brlcad awake?
22:37.03 starseeker what do you need? is it something only he can do?
22:38.06 GrantMercer015 just looking onto what a command would do , let me grab it
22:38.11 GrantMercer015 i think you would be able to help me
22:39.31 GrantMercer015 cat /tmp/ord_id >>
22:39.31 GrantMercer015 followed by a call to bu_vls_strcat(&cmd, argv[1]);
22:39.47 GrantMercer015 my guess that it coppies the file onto the end of argv[1] ?
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22:43.09 GrantMercer015 starseeker: i posted the question up a little if you hadnt noticed, thanks if you could take a look
22:43.39 starseeker urm
22:43.48 starseeker cat is being run inside the C code??
22:44.10 GrantMercer015 on the console
22:44.22 GrantMercer015 my job is to remove those console commands with c code
22:44.36 starseeker ok - so where is the >> directing to?
22:44.48 GrantMercer015 argv[1], so a file
22:45.07 starseeker any reason you can't just directly read /tmp/ord_id into a string?
22:45.17 starseeker or use the libbu file mapping abilities?
22:45.22 GrantMercer015 it copies the data from the file onto the end of argv[1], only problem is argv[1] is const O.o
22:45.25 GrantMercer015 i have all the data
22:45.34 GrantMercer015 i just need to finish up by writing to the end of argv[1]
22:45.51 GrantMercer015 brlcad mentioned that i can modify a const, but he never let me know how
22:57.03 GrantMercer015 is it legal to do the following: fprintf(argv[1],DataArray[0])?
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23:06.26 Barakados_ hello?
23:06.32 GrantMercer015 hello!
23:06.41 Barakados_ How come i get errors when i compile the source in files i didn't edit?
23:07.07 Barakados_ example: error: 'CFBundleRef' undeclared (first use in this function)
23:07.34 GrantMercer015 try using BRLCAD cross reference to look up CFBundleRef
23:07.41 GrantMercer015 that could have a link to what you modified
23:09.16 lachlanp hi
23:10.25 Barakados_ should i submit it?
23:10.45 GrantMercer015 if there is an error with the source, no
23:11.04 Barakados_ i'm confused...
23:11.27 GrantMercer015 Google BRL CAD cross reference
23:11.33 GrantMercer015 browse the source code
23:11.38 GrantMercer015 hit "identifier search"
23:11.46 GrantMercer015 type in CFBUndleRef
23:12.02 GrantMercer015 check where it is defined, and see if it have any linkage to the source you modified
23:14.42 Barakados_ can i have a link to the page you search on?
23:14.56 Barakados_ oop nevermind
23:15.25 Barakados_ it says it is not used
23:17.14 starseeker brlcad: so far, the tools are living up to my expectations
23:17.19 GrantMercer015 leave a reply onto your task and see if they'll get to you, thats all i can really say
23:18.48 Notify 03GCI: Sean Bashaw has left the following comment at Convert 24 other man pages to valid Docbook http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8005210: Errors On Compilation. My code gets errors in classes I didn't edit. I get errors like: 53:48: error: CoreFoundation/CoreFoundation.h: No such file or directory If you can help me msg me on the irc i am Barakados
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23:19.48 Barakados_ hello!
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23:20.31 starseeker brlcad: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1972228
23:21.53 Barakados brlcad: CoreFoundation is not found
23:29.18 Notify 03GCI: BrendenD15 has left the following comment at Compile BRL-CAD on Windows using Cygwin http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/7972239: Configured using different method I decided to try configuring the code using the CMake GUI since I was getting nowhere trying to use CMake inside of Cygwin. I was able to set Visual Studio as the compiler and my computer completed...
23:31.02 lachlanp hi brlcad: can i use a temporary file (bu_temp_file) in my unit test?
23:32.07 lachlanp or can a mapped_file be used as a regular file?
23:34.30 starseeker notes KDE example uses a local copy of the SVN repo
23:34.35 starseeker ho boy
23:34.43 starseeker *now* it's dinnertime

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