IRC log for #brlcad on 20130112

01:33.59 starseeker arrrgh - I can't believe I didn't see this earlier: www.cs.berkeley.edu/~sequin/CS284/PAPERS/root3subdiv.pdf
01:34.46 starseeker is "faking" the interpolation by scaling, but a proper interpolation is *much* better
01:35.26 starseeker noticed openflipper had it listed in their GUI
01:47.00 starseeker hmm... looks like openflipper/openmesh may be the only implementation
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02:00.11 starseeker tries openflipper's mesh editing...
02:04.23 starseeker wow
02:05.06 starseeker may need to rethink any time spent with meshlab, at least for editing...
02:07.22 ``Erik starseeker: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/youre-doing-it-wrong
02:09.28 starseeker ``Erik: what am I doing wrong?
02:10.37 ``Erik editing in meshlab, it'd seem :D
02:10.42 starseeker heh
02:11.29 starseeker ``Erik: what do you make of this license exception: http://www.openmesh.org/index.php?id=381
02:12.26 starseeker ``Erik: is that enough to be LGPLv2 compatible?
02:13.47 ``Erik that exception almost makes it sound PDish or BSD/MITish
02:14.59 starseeker I'm interpreting that as "it's LGPLv3, and changes to the particular files are LGPLv3, but you can combine it with whatever"
02:15.50 starseeker sorta like the MPL2
02:16.10 ``Erik yeah, I d'no, it's almost like an academic type decided that they're smart enough to do lawyer-speak O.o
02:16.18 starseeker winces
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02:17.23 starseeker guess it would stand to reason they'd have sqrt3 subdivision implemented, seeing as Kobbelt was behind the original idea
02:17.43 ``Erik the dude calls himself professor, usually they're extremely happy to answer questions about their shtuff if it might be used
02:18.16 ``Erik could send an email saying how you want to use it and what our beef with lgplv3 is to verify that it's covered
02:19.03 ``Erik (and I can never remember what our beef with v3 is)
02:19.05 ``Erik :D
02:19.37 starseeker not compatible with LGPLv2, according to the FSF compatibility chart
02:22.26 starseeker IIRC, it works like this: LGPLv2 only is compatible with GPLv2 only usage, but LGPLv3 is not compatible with such usage
02:22.58 starseeker so if we use an LGPLv3 library, we "poison pill" our code for use with GPLv2 only licensed codebases
02:25.32 starseeker O.o http://openmesh.org/Documentation/OpenMesh-Doc-Latest/vdpm_docu.html
02:25.43 starseeker View Dependent Progressive Meshes
02:28.30 starseeker subdivides the heck out of the bunny in openflipper...
02:28.51 starseeker ``Erik: how many faces do you need before a typical OpenGL view starts bogging down?
02:36.01 starseeker nevermind, I hit swap too quickly anyhow - ram insufficient
02:51.32 ``Erik starseeker: too many variables for a single number... if the faces are front to back, a lot of circuitry can be skipped (depth buffer test), different cards have different onboard ram amounts, so you might be able to cache whole geometries on the card, different cache expiration mechanisms can change performance, pcix vs pcie vs agp vs ...
02:51.48 ``Erik tristrip vs trifan vs tris vs vars vs ...
02:52.30 ``Erik (and never do polygons, break 'em to triangles... the cards usually do triangles so they'll have to break polys up on the fly, which can blow pipeline performance)
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03:14.57 starseeker even if I can't use openmesh directly, I can probably study how he organized his data for the subdivision
03:15.25 starseeker not to mention figure out what the *bleep* a couple of his terms actually mean geometrically
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04:34.13 yukonbob Hello #brlcad
04:40.50 starseeker ``Erik: have you seen this paper? http://www.graphics.rwth-aachen.de/media/papers/campen_2010_eg_021.pdf
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16:43.03 Skriptkid Snap. Sorry about that. Accident
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16:47.51 Skriptkid brlcad: Really sorry that topic changed happen. Now it says "Set by Skriptkid" when someone logs in. Please re-set it so that it goes back to "set by brlcad" Sorry again.
16:51.48 andrei__ Skriptkid: I don't think that's a terrible mistake, don't worry :)
16:52.31 Skriptkid Okay :)
17:14.37 Notify 03GCI:Melange * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Task Reopened - Melange has detected that the final deadline has passed and it has reopened the task.
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17:26.43 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8137202 Post "BRL-CAD Ray Tracing Shaders" tutorial to our wiki: don't worry - Don't worry about shrinking the images when you upload them. You can upload them full resolution and the...
17:31.08 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8051204 Create a 2D Sketch Model and Diagram: No bezier segments? - I noticed that there's no bezier segments in your example? It would be good to include at least one. Its pretty...
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17:32.58 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8051204 Create a 2D Sketch Model and Diagram: I believe - I believe you're still in the top 5 but we won't be reviewing the list again until after the deadline. Remember that quality...
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17:34.23 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8051204 Create a 2D Sketch Model and Diagram: good enough - Just to be clear, the image is "good enough" now, but it is still really desirable to have a Bezier segment.
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18:24.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:BrendenD15 * 4928 /wiki/Tutorial/Shaders: Re sized many photos and added minor formatting changes.
18:25.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:caen23 * 54168 brlcad/trunk/src/other/xmltools/libxml/CMakeLists.txt: In some cases (e.g. OS X), CMAKE_THREAD_LIBS_INIT is set to "" when threads are available, causing IF(CMAKE_THREAD_LIBS_INIT) to fail even if threads are available. This, in turn, causes compilation of libxml/src/threads.c to fail. We now check if Threads_FOUND is true, which should be more portable
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20:56.27 Dominika I've got a problem with running ISSt from disc image. I can see in terminal sometning like that: Error in startup script: couldn't load file "/usr/brlcad/dev-7.21.0/bin/../lib/isst0.1/../../lib/libissttcltk.so": /usr/brlcad/dev-7.21.0/bin/../lib/isst0.1/../../lib/libissttcltk.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory while executing "load /usr/brlcad/dev-7.21.0/bin/../lib/isst0.1/../../lib/libissttcltk.so
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