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00:56.12 Notify 03GCI:javamonn * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Well... - Well, this task has taken me far longer than I had originally anticipated. I started with compiling...
01:04.51 Skriptkid dvec.h contains the class dvec and prototypes of all members of the class, while their definitions are in vector_x86.h or vector_fpu.h, depending on availability of SSE right? Sorry If this is stupid. I'm not really familiar with C++
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02:00.25 Notify 03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Toggling - Should subclassing be done here? Since the definitions of members of dvec are different but prototypes are same, overloading...
02:51.51 Notify 03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Dropping - I guess I'm dropping this. I don't know C++, especially OOP in it, so no point breaking my head over this when i can do some...
02:54.11 Notify 03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
02:54.51 Notify 03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Unclaim? - How can I unclaim?! There's no "Unclaim" option!
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04:00.18 Skriptkid Could some mentor please reopen that task? I'm unable to unclaim it.
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05:17.41 Notify 03GCI:Melange * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Initial Deadline passed - Melange has detected that the initial deadline has passed and it has set the task status...
05:19.16 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
05:23.58 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: as you noted - As you noted, we technically have an implementation of runtime detection and you identifeid that feature available. You've...
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06:14.15 Skriptkid Is analyze working for elliptical hyperboloids(ehy)? I get an "unable to process ID_EHY" on even a fresh checkout
06:41.26 Notify 03GCI:Skriptkid * 8007218 Implement runtime detection of SSE: Subclassing - Subclassing might be a good idea. You have the main(base) dvec class. Create two subclasses which inhert it. One for x86...
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13:14.04 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: I'm getting the following compilation errors - with standard CMake generated make files (no...
13:14.14 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s)...
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14:14.35 *** topic/#brlcad by brlcad -> BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || Thanks to all of our GCI participants for their fantastic work! Join brlcad-news to see when your changes get rolled out...
14:18.04 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8131203 Compile with -Wstrict-prototypes, fix warnings that ensue: two hours remaining - Javamonn, Since there's only two hours remaining, go ahead and mark the task as needing review...
14:42.21 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8104208 Add missing documentation for any one command (#4): thank you! - As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment...
14:43.21 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 7998215 Implement a primitive volume function ... for gridded volumes (VOL): thank you! - As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts....
14:43.31 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8079211 Review and post "Blender to BRL-CAD" tutorial on our wiki: thank you! - As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment...
14:44.06 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8003218 Compile and run BRL-CAD on a Raspberry Pi: thank you! - As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment interface closes...
14:44.21 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 7987215 Categorize all of BRL-CAD's commands into a spreadsheet: thank you! - As GCI comes to a close, we wanted to take the time to say THANK YOU for all your efforts. This comment...
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15:02.44 Notify 03GCI:Skriptkid * 8142202 Design a prototype CAD GUI layout (#2): Thank you too! - GCI has been amazing! I'll save the whole thank-you note for the end ;) My full name is "Akshay Kashyap" And the...
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15:42.26 Skriptkid brlcad: There's a feature request on sourceforge - "Tilde symbol for home directory representation" I came with a little piece of code for that(although I don't know if it'll be acceptable.) Can I submit it as an attachment on that artifact?
15:56.05 Skriptkid ah..can't do that..
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16:00.39 brlcad Skriptkid: hm?
16:01.37 Skriptkid There's a feature request and I modified Mged to introduce that feature. I can't submit it right?
16:01.48 Skriptkid On sourceforge.
16:03.02 brlcad Skriptkid: can you comment on that task?
16:03.50 Skriptkid It's not a task. It's a feature request artifact on sourceforge
16:04.25 Skriptkid "Tilde symbol for home directory.
16:05.07 brlcad task == artifact
16:05.22 brlcad on that tracker item
16:05.35 Skriptkid Oh. Sorry. Yeah. I'll comment on it.
16:05.35 brlcad can you comment or do you not have permission?
16:05.43 Skriptkid I can comment.
16:06.07 brlcad you can include a note there for starters, at least until we get you added
16:06.25 Skriptkid I'll do that.
16:08.08 Notify 03GCI:Jacob B * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Uploading - Don't download the file yet: it is a 5.6 gb file, and it is still uploading. I could not finish the task on friday because I had...
16:08.45 Skriptkid brlcad: comment added.
16:10.19 Notify 03GCI:Jacob B * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
16:16.03 Notify 03GCI:Sean * 8023219 Set up QEMU deployment testing: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
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16:28.05 maths22 brlcad: my client estimates 1:10 to upload. I am uploading it to ty family's NAS, so once you have it downloaded to a better location, let me know so I can delete the file.
16:28.21 brlcad maths22: hehe
16:28.27 brlcad will do
16:28.36 brlcad let me know when it's done uploading
16:28.50 maths22 ok. There are not many good places to share 5.6 gb files.
16:29.05 brlcad wouldn't compress better?
16:29.26 maths22 How should I compress it. gzip?
16:29.35 brlcad anything :)
16:30.14 maths22 I will do that and reupload it.
16:30.35 brlcad okay, that should make it a lot smaller, I'd hope
16:30.52 Notify 03GCI:Cezar * 7957220 Separate LIBNURBS files into one class per file: Thanks - Thanks a lot for all the nice words and the help you've provided to all of us during the contest, it's been a great...
16:30.58 maths22 It is compressing with gzip; I have no clue how long that will take.
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16:51.19 maths22 By the way, now that GCI is almost over, I would like to express my interest in the webmaster role decribed previously.
16:51.43 brlcad maths22: there's still 8 minutes ;)
16:52.12 maths22 I know.
16:52.23 brlcad but that's fantastic to hear, you're mostly set up so we'll just have to figure out a plan
16:57.22 maths22 Now it is uploading to ftp://share:brlcad@50.141.159.74/OpenShare/brlcad-ubuntu.qcow2
16:57.35 maths22 Now it is uploading to ftp://share:brlcad@50.141.159.74/OpenShare/brlcad-ubuntu.qcow2.gz
16:57.50 maths22 SOrry about the first link
16:57.56 maths22 It is now only 1.8 gb
16:58.15 brlcad excellent, that's a little better ;)
16:58.23 brlcad is it done?
16:59.04 maths22 Now it is uploadg estimate is about half an hour.
16:59.52 Skriptkid Wow. GCI is over.
17:00.24 maths22 Yep. The homepage now says CONTEST BEGINS ON NOV 26
17:05.23 brlcad woo hoo!
17:05.46 brlcad thank you all for your efforts
17:05.47 Skriptkid Now that GCI has come to an end, I'd like to thank everyone here at BRL-CAD for this amazing experience. I've learnt so much from you all, that I probably wouldn't have in a longtime, and you've been such a wonderful and helpful crowd! THANK YOU, BRL-CAD! And best of luck to all participants for your future endeavors! :D
17:06.55 maths22 Thank you for the opportunity to become involved in open source.
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17:07.42 brlcad maths22: you have always had that opportunity ;)
17:07.57 brlcad that's one of the great things about open source, nobody has to invite you and you don't have to ask for permission
17:08.10 brlcad GCI has certainly been a great way to get started, though
17:08.18 Skriptkid True :)
17:08.44 maths22 Well, I did not think to become involved until GCI
17:10.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 54169 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/SketchEditFrame.tcl: remove trailing blanks/tabs
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17:20.26 caen23 congratulations to all the students and the mentors! like i said, it's been an awesome and unique experience, and it's the beginning of a wonderful journey
17:22.14 Skriptkid Thank you, caen23 :)
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17:45.01 andrei_ woah, it takes almost 3 weeks to decide winners, that's quite the time to think
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17:48.39 maths22 brlcad: it is up.
18:14.55 brlcad maths22: receiving, eta 1 hr
18:16.16 maths22 Sorry that my upload speed is not great. I unfortuniatly canno host it on my awsome school's network/
18:22.57 maths22 brlcad: why is bzflag back to being the webhost?
18:23.13 maths22 sorry: webserver
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18:31.17 brlcad maths22: what do you mean? back to being the webserver?
18:32.06 maths22 crit is not the server for brlcad.org anymore
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19:21.15 starseeker finally: http://www.pcworld.com/article/2024391/acer-takes-on-apple-with-retina-class-laptop-displays.html
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19:51.35 brlcad starseeker: heh, that's a CES prototype
19:52.19 brlcad so yeah, some other company might start shipping a high-resolution display a solid later .. I'd hope so!
19:52.58 brlcad maths22: ah, I thought you meant the bzflag site itself
19:53.16 caen23 i watched the first 10 minutes of qualcomm's ces introduction (i think that's what it was) and it was so stupid it wasn't even funny
19:53.21 brlcad crit will be, it wasn't supposed to be switched over to crit just yet and was only accidentally switched for a couple hours
20:19.05 maths22 Ahah
20:21.15 Notify 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 54170 brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/GeometryEditFrame.tcl: Stub in a configbody for units and valueUnits
20:35.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD:bob1961 * 54171 (brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/Archer.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/archer/SketchEditFrame.tcl): The following tweaks are for Archer's sketch editor. Update the sketch panel when the units are changed. Use bboxVerts to get the bounding box instead of calling the canvas' bbox method. This results in a better initial scale factor for the sketch view. Hook the edit panel entries to
20:35.59 Notify non-array variables. Other minor tweaks.
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21:07.21 maths22 brlcad: is it downloaded?
21:12.28 brlcad maths22: yep, all done
21:12.56 brlcad it'll be a day or two before I free up space to test it -- we have some gci announcements to prepare (and the website migration work)
21:13.04 maths22 ok. that way I can disable the share login.
21:13.13 maths22 I don't want that out there for too long/
21:13.49 maths22 (the access, not the file)
21:29.40 starseeker brlcad: yeah, not a product announcement yet - but the first positive sign I've seen in a while that the industry is going to try and follow apple down the retina display road
21:31.27 starseeker "caught the PC industry off guard" is putting it mildly - they were so silent about whether they were even going to plan to offer anything like that display I was kinda worried they were hiding under the boardroom tables and hoping it would all go away
21:33.38 andrei_ starseeker: why do you consider the retina display such a crucial improvement ?
21:34.06 andrei_ I mean, I have seen flexible displays, lately. I consider that a much bigger accomplishment
21:34.47 starseeker andrei_: retina displays let me a) fit more stuff on the screen simultaneously and b) view big images at full quality
21:35.49 starseeker finds flexible displays technically impressive, but largely "meh" functionality wise
21:36.21 starseeker specific applicaitons where they will be useful, but I've never had a real problem with "hard" display screens
21:36.24 andrei_ Doesn't Apple have patent on retina display ?
21:36.53 starseeker they probably have a trademark on "retina display" - I doubt they can patent "high resolution" displays
21:37.33 starseeker I use "retina" only to make it clear that I'm not referring to the non-apple state-of-the-PC-art high PPI displays
21:37.52 andrei_ I have never used a mac so far, but I have seen many developers use macs in U.S.
21:38.02 starseeker Essentially, I'm hoping this will mean the return of the IBM T221 style desktop monitor
21:38.20 starseeker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_T220/T221_LCD_monitors
21:38.43 andrei_ was looking at it just now
21:38.58 starseeker andrei_: if they get linux working reliably on the Apple retina display hardware, that might be OK too
21:40.05 starseeker refuses to buy in to the Mac OSX thing - too closed. Pretty, but seeing as I use a dark grey fluxbox desktop at home "pretty" doesn't really factor in ;-)
21:40.24 andrei_ I have to admit, the resolution is significantly larger
21:40.50 starseeker screens are ultimately about displaying as much information as possible as usefully as possible - it's not unusual for me to have a dozen or more terminals open
21:41.41 starseeker plus PDF papers, web browsers with project pages, etc. - the more screen real estate available, the more "parallel" my monitoring and switching between information inputs
21:42.39 starseeker I tend to have rather small fonts, especially on terminals - usually what I'm doing in a terminal is launching a process or monitoring it's progress via watching "text flow"
21:42.49 andrei_ I was using a 17' monitor until a year ago or so and when I switched from 17' to 30' I was like : " so many vsplits possible "
21:43.02 starseeker hehe
21:44.39 starseeker it really does make a difference - I was surprised
21:45.16 starseeker has considered trying to get a T221 via ebay or some such, but not immediately clear how difficult it would be to get it working properly
21:46.45 andrei_ it takes quite some gear to get it running, for a monitor, at least.
21:46.52 starseeker with any luck, the Apple retina displays will finally bring in a new generation of really high PPI displays and I can assemble a 3x(3840x2400) monitor setup without jumping through insane hardware hoops :-)
21:48.08 andrei_ that means an incredible amount of info
21:48.39 andrei_ but, speaking about that, I don't think it will be easy to have the appropriate videocard(s) setup
21:49.04 starseeker it will probably usher in another few generations of new video cards
21:49.33 andrei_ and here I mean working with BRL-CAD because I think the GUI insn't incredibly hard to render
21:49.38 starseeker thinks NVIDIA and friends should be happy about that - another reason for *everybody* to upgrade their video cards, not just hardcore gamers
21:50.18 starseeker andrei_: sorry? not following - why would BRL-CAD have trouble?
21:50.49 andrei_ I meant doing 3d modeling probably puts a lot more work onto the graphics card than loading a GUI
21:51.18 starseeker ah - sure
21:51.18 andrei_ but in fact, BRL-CAD uses images, not frames
21:51.25 andrei_ or so I believe
21:51.49 starseeker andrei_: if you're using the openGL backend the card will make a difference
21:51.57 andrei_ I was thinking at some example I encountered a few days ago in openGL
21:52.17 andrei_ I don't remember the exact name, but I know there is a list used for static objects that significantly improves performance
21:52.29 andrei_ display lists, or something like that.
21:52.41 starseeker over time, will probably start to look more like "standard" cad modelers by default, and that'll involve using GPUs for casual 3D displays...
21:53.01 starseeker yeah, display lists - we can use those, even in MGED
21:53.16 andrei_ I was impressed about the difference they can make
21:53.39 starseeker holy cow, there is an 80 megapixel digital camera out there...
21:53.51 starseeker now there's a good excuse for a high PPI display
21:54.08 andrei_ I might be wrong but there are some companies planning to get 40 megapixel on smartphones
21:54.43 starseeker notes 16 megapixels is nothing special anymore... wow, we were glad to have 4/5 megapixel cameras just a few years ago
21:55.00 andrei_ indeed
21:55.17 andrei_ now I can say " When I was young ..we used to have VGA cameras on phones "
21:55.36 starseeker actually picked up a 4 megapixel camera for ten bucks at a yard sale - cost $300 new just a few years ago
21:55.37 ``Erik when I was young, phones didn't have cameras, and they plugged into the wall
21:55.50 andrei_ hahaha
21:56.33 ``Erik starseeker: you can run that 'leenewx' thing on mac hw, or fbsd... and for the most part, apple is surprisingly open O.o darwin is the core kernel, the bsd userland is all open, etc
21:57.35 starseeker projects like this look more affordable by the day: http://www.diybookscanner.org/
21:57.59 starseeker pretty soon you'll be able to fish *everything* you need out of the trash - cameras included
21:58.46 andrei_ starseeker: that looks like some torture machine
21:58.57 starseeker ``Erik: sure, the non-GUI parts of Apple aren't bad - but they're a pain in the neck when it comes to encouraging the "locked down, app store" mentality with users
22:00.37 ``Erik hate to say it, but I think a majority consider that a boon... I'd also point out that there're more automatic transmissions in the US than manuals, people would rather have it 'just work' than have control and freedom
22:01.30 starseeker ``Erik: agreed. All the more reason to make sure I put my own $$ somewhere that preserves the alternatives
22:02.43 starseeker doesn't object to things being easy or well done - but in his case, both of those considerations are trumped by the desire to be in control of my own machine
22:04.54 starseeker with any luck, system76 will have a "Retina Display" laptop option by the time I actually need to replace my old Thinkpad (which will be a while - it's still working fine, and it's now so old a thief stealing it would probably lose money paying for their getaway gas)
22:35.10 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:KaitlinozfrsflzllRamsay * 4933 /wiki/Baltimore_Home_Assessments_Fall: New page: A investment planner can guide you furthermore refer you to an est planning attorney to draft ruined. Buy-sell arrangments made govern the transfer of the most important pharmacy between t...
22:44.11 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 54172 brlcad/trunk/src/util/pix-png.c: don't set the gAMA chunk if gamma is negative/unset, quells warnings on default use
22:45.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 54173 brlcad/trunk/src/fb/fb-png.c: zero is also not valid, so go ahead and check if gama chunk is positive.
23:49.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 54174 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/test_botpatches.cpp: Add a function for testing whether a bot patch is planar
23:55.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:KaitlinozfrsflzllRamsay * 4934 /wiki/Vivid_White_House%27s_Mexican_Trucking_Proposal_Brings_Ire_Of_Us_Truckers: New page: Also, learn where the scales are each of them on the interstates, and in the truck stops. That is right I cannot care about their country, We care about ours and feel like we should take c...

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