IRC log for #brlcad on 20130425

00:00.56 kanzure "Because the Unigraphics-to-BRL-CAD converter, ug-g, was written using the Unigraphics UG/Open API library, users must have a Unigraphics UG/Open execute or development license in order to run it."
00:01.16 kanzure is that true? there's a ug-g binary in brlcad that's useless without a license key somewhere?
00:21.11 starseeker kanzure: if I remember correctly, that bit can't even be compiled without their API
00:21.55 starseeker kanzure: that code is in src/external/Unigraphics
00:22.15 starseeker it hasn't been built in a long time - since well before the CMake build, actually
00:23.30 starseeker also, if I recall correctly that code, even when compiled up and working, won't import or preserve NURBS - it brings things in as BoTs
00:24.03 kanzure ah fascinating.
00:24.40 starseeker step-g is the wave of the future :-)
00:53.22 kanzure well, the only reason i brought it up is because he claimed it can be used to get out usable files from solidworks. but that seems like a really weird claim to make if it requires a proprietary blob of code... because there's already tons of proprietary blobs of code that can do that.
02:22.56 starseeker nods - it might not be clear at a glance that it needs the external libs
02:24.08 brlcad kanzure: yeah, the ug-g converter is like our Pro/E export plugin -- they're link against their API/libraries and work with their runtime
02:24.21 brlcad hence why we shove them in src/external
02:24.42 starseeker wonders if they are even keeping around once the STEP support matures
02:24.52 starseeker s/even keeping/even worth keeping
02:26.27 brlcad kanzure: and I think the compatibility he claims is unlikely (that .sldprt will sufficiently be read by something that reads .prt files) .. maybe, but that's certainly not something we've ever investigated or tested
02:33.46 kanzure oh there's also a Pro/E plugin. huh.
02:34.19 kanzure starseeker: i think they should be tossed if STEP exports more data *and* the other application reads back out the same data
02:34.34 kanzure of course, STEP implementations vary..
02:36.36 kanzure erm.. i mean, if the proprietary software produces an exactly equivalent "their native file format" version of a model both from (1) g-step output and (2) g-ug output
02:36.43 kanzure although, this assumes a perfect g-ug implementation
02:36.48 kanzure so that test might be inappropriate.
03:09.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55236 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: nick improved the step-g importer in 55219 fixing a segfault and allowing the converter to handle more varied inputs
03:10.51 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55237 brlcad/trunk/src/util/cv.c: if one section gets curlies, the other should too
03:20.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55238 brlcad/trunk/src/util/decimate.c: call bu_exit() and avoid setting an expression boolean to a variable
03:22.48 kanzure which proprietary cad tool has the best STEP importer/exporter? iirc opencascade supports STEP but it had spatchy coverage?
03:22.53 kanzure cstirk: i guess that's a question for you.
03:23.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55239 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/model2view.c: browder noticed that these two can be combined, simplifies even further.
03:31.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55240 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: bob fixed a bug / expanded support in r52470 to better support multiple monitors under linux. for setups not using xinerama or some other mechanism for treating multiple hardware displays as one big virtual display, this fix makes it work even if X is configured to treat them separately, returning the proper visual for the right screen.
03:34.56 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55241 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Ro?\195?\159berg fixed a memory leak in the pipe primitive where nobody ever implemented the rt_pipe_free() function to actually release memory. now does the deed.
03:53.54 cstirk kanzure: CATIA of the major vendors, Datakit of the third-party translators. The data is here http://www.cax-if.org/vendor_info.php
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13:27.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:KeshaSShah * 5090 /wiki/User:KeshaSShah: Created page with "= Personal Information= Name: Kesha Shah E-mail address:[mailto:kesha.shah1106@gmail.com kesha.shah1106@gmail.com] IRC nickname: kesha_ =Brief backgrou..."
13:28.09 Izak_ hey
13:29.24 Izak_ brlcad_: Do you use mged commands and other primitives to build a heart primitive
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13:35.35 Izak_ jasleen_: How do you build a primitive out of the existing ones?
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13:36.47 Izak_ <PROTECTED>
13:44.50 jasleen Izak_:you can make inbuilt primitives using commands or GUI and by using addition, subtraction operations of CSG (constructive solid geometry) you can make complex objects
13:44.57 kesha Hi, i am working on Code refactoring project. I have also submitted proposal for it: http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:KeshaSShah
13:45.39 kesha I would like to know who will be mentoring this project? I would like to get reviews on it
13:46.17 kesha is very excited to refactor and reduce BRL-CAD codebase
13:49.33 Izak_ jasleen_: I want to build a heart primitive . So are you saying I will have to use mged commands ?
13:51.09 kesha I have also tried to reach on mailing list. I will really appreciate if someone can help me out.
13:53.10 Izak_ kesha_: I am in the same soup .
13:53.27 Izak_ It appears sourceforge lists have a problem
14:01.15 kesha izak_ : really ! I am so enthusiastic right now. Its too hard to be patient !
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14:01.32 kesha izak_ : really ! I am so enthusiastic right now. Its too hard to be patient !
14:02.31 Izak_ Kesha_: So what do you intend to work on ?
14:03.13 kesha Izak_: Code Refactoring and Code reducing.
14:03.22 kesha Izak_: N You ?
14:04.24 Izak_ A heart surface primitive
14:04.53 kesha Have you made the proposal ?
14:05.14 Izak_ I am still doing so ?
14:05.15 kesha Who is your mentor ?
14:05.39 Izak_ I have been told any one can mentor me.
14:05.54 kesha Great !
14:06.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 0 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
14:07.10 kesha Hey listen, I have got my final exams running now. I need to study ! Just few hrs left and have to burn my midnight lamp to study !
14:07.14 kesha Catch You later
14:07.38 Izak_ Okay. One open source spirit bro
14:07.52 kesha Izak_: *sis
14:08.01 kesha is a girl
14:08.30 Izak_ Oh oh . I am sorry I concluded.
14:08.40 Izak_ Hope you don't mind
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14:09.08 kesha Never mind ! :)
14:09.34 Izak_ So what do you read - your major ?
14:10.34 kesha I have to select it next Year. Right now, ICT - Information and Communcation Technology .
14:11.00 Izak_ HHmm. I see.
14:11.19 Izak_ I major in computer science
14:11.42 kesha Cool. In which University ?
14:12.06 Izak_ The University of Buea , Cameroon , Africa
14:12.18 Izak_ N you ?
14:13.00 kesha Dhirubhai Ambani Institute of Information and Communication Technology, India, Asia
14:15.24 Izak_ Wow. I hear you guys and girls in India are the best programmers
14:16.48 kesha True that. Last year we had 17 students in GSoC.
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14:18.58 Izak_ kesha_: Wow thats cool
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14:20.45 Izak_ jasleen_: I want to build a heart surface primitive. Do I have to use the mged commands ? Can a script in the mged language be a useful patch in my proposal ?
14:22.12 Izak_ kesha_: Do you the maximum number of proposals which are accepted each year by a mentor organisation ( like BRL CAD ) ?
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14:29.32 jasleen Izak_: making an object is entirely different than making a primitive. MGED commands are used for making 3D models. Creating a new primitive include coding and maths intensive task.
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14:30.47 kesha Izak_: Didn't get you
14:31.03 Izak_ Jasleen_: I have found the math equation for a 3d heart ? Is that what I have to program ?
14:32.05 Izak_ Do you the highest number of students BRLCAD will take for the GSOC 2013 ?
14:32.47 jasleen Izak_ : You have think logically.
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14:33.57 Izak_ Jasleen_: Sorry for bugging you .
14:34.23 kesha I don't know this time.Last year there were 11 .
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15:18.58 Ch3ck Hi guys
15:19.24 Ch3ck i just finished my code patch and sample project proposal for the pull routine
15:19.40 Ch3ck i know its not perfect so i need some feedback
15:19.55 Ch3ck brlcad: how do i submit my patch code?
15:22.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 0 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20:
15:23.41 Ch3ck yeah
15:23.59 Ch3ck i just created it now..
15:24.00 Ch3ck so do i submit here?
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15:32.28 Izak_ Ch3ck_: Have you submitted the proposal ?
15:32.43 Ch3ck not yet
15:32.56 Ch3ck still trying to work on the site..
15:34.31 Izak_ Ch3ck_: I have created an account and logged in. What's next to join the mailing list ?
15:34.54 Ch3ck have u joined the mailing list?
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15:36.42 Izak_ sourceforge.net is not connecting ?
15:38.04 Izak_ Ch3ck I think you need to use the Upload file tool ( top right hand corner of the page)
15:38.29 Ch3ck well thats what i was thinking.
15:41.19 Izak_ Kesha_: Have you successfully joined the mailing list ?
15:46.51 Izak_ Ch3ck_: Are u on gmail , or fb now ?
15:47.30 Ch3ck gmail...
15:48.12 Ch3ck how do i create a new page on brlcad.org wiki
15:49.15 Izak_ Do u see the toolbox on the top right hand corner ?
15:51.55 Izak_ Click on the upload file link
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16:02.52 Izak_ Ch3ck_: How far
16:03.21 Ch3ck boy that thing is complex.
16:03.29 Ch3ck have u already joined the mailing list.
16:04.31 Izak_ sourceforge is fucking up
16:05.31 Izak_ Ch3ck_: I am uploading a file to brlcad website
16:06.13 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:IIIzzzaaakkk * 0 /wiki/File:Thesis_writing.pdf: This file helps postgraduate students in computing write their dissertations.
16:06.21 Ch3ck which file?
16:06.44 Ch3ck Notify: how do i post my proposal on the wiki page?
16:06.55 Izak_ The file that Notify has shown above
16:07.26 Izak_ Ch3ck_: Use the "upload file option "
16:08.57 Ch3ck ok
16:09.48 Izak_ Is it going?
16:10.50 Ch3ck Izak: i can only upload image files..
16:10.59 Izak_ Ch3ck_: Notice that the file should be atmost 2MB
16:11.11 Ch3ck i have to add a new page and paste the information there
16:11.11 Izak_ No it also takes pdf files
16:11.20 Ch3ck my proposal is txt
16:11.59 Izak_ Copy it to openoffice and then save it as *.pdf
16:12.14 Izak_ Open openoffice.org
16:12.47 Izak_ The upload permitted file types include pdf
16:16.56 Ch3ck ok
16:26.35 Izak_ Ch3ck_: When you copy and paste your proposal from / to openoffice.org , Go to "File" and choose the "Export as PDF" option , A window pops up , choose submit as PDF not FDF and "export". It gets saved in the chosen directory as a pdf file which you can then upload to BRLCAD
16:27.11 Izak_ Ch3ck_: I am going home now to see Amalia off .She is travelling
16:27.28 Izak_ Give me some feedback
16:27.30 Ch3ck aight
16:27.33 Ch3ck ok
16:27.39 Ch3ck i'll do what you've said and see ..
16:28.07 Izak_ I just tried it now and it successfully got saved as a pdf
16:28.11 Izak_ Bye bye
16:29.06 Ch3ck ok
16:30.07 Izak_ See ya
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16:37.17 Ch3ck hey guys i have finished a draft of my project proposal and i wanted to post for feedback so as to develop it better
16:37.34 Ch3ck can some one please help me out here on how to paste on the wiki pages?
16:37.45 vladbogo hi
16:37.53 vladbogo i am a student too
16:39.19 vladbogo as I seen after creating an account on the wiki page you can access a URL like http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:USERNAME/Proposal andyou have the option to create the page
16:40.07 vladbogo after you select the create tab a text box opens and you have the option to save the page
16:40.22 vladbogo I haven't saved any page yet but I suppose it should work
16:41.02 vladbogo I just created a template and seen the preview without saving the actual page
16:41.07 vladbogo hope it helps:)
16:45.33 vladbogo also in order to create headings you should write something like =Project Information=
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16:54.16 Ch3ck ok thanks
16:54.27 Ch3ck vladbogo: thanks
16:54.34 Ch3ck let me see
16:55.12 vladbogo you're welcome
16:58.32 Ch3ck so what project are u working on?
16:58.39 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Vladbogolin * 5092 /wiki/User:Vladbogolin/Proposal: Created page with "=Personal Information= *Name: Bogolin Simion Vlad *E-mail address: vladbogolin@gmail.com *IRC username: vladbogo ===Background info=== ====Skils==== ====Projects==== =P..."
16:59.14 vladbogo New cross-platform 3D display manager
16:59.18 vladbogo you?
17:00.06 Ch3ck pull routine the reverse of the push command
17:00.09 Ch3ck in megd
17:00.11 vladbogo i have just created a page just with headings
17:00.15 vladbogo so it works
17:00.32 vladbogo it looks like this http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Vladbogolin/Proposal
17:00.42 Ch3ck so explain to me how this page thing works
17:01.05 Ch3ck cuz i tried pasting my proposal earlier and they spam warnings
17:01.06 Ch3ck or somethx like that
17:01.35 Ch3ck i also wrote a patch for the proposal
17:01.37 vladbogo i think that if you press the edit button on the page i have just posted you can see what I actually written
17:01.46 Ch3ck so how do i submit the patch
17:02.24 Ch3ck so what should i write as summary of page
17:02.40 Ch3ck and should i just cpy and paste my proposal
17:02.46 Ch3ck or is there anything special i have to do.?
17:03.34 vladbogo the patch you should submit here http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/patches/
17:03.50 vladbogo you need to create an account
17:04.31 vladbogo well the editing is like this
17:05.09 vladbogo =Heading= creates a new heading that automatically appears on the Table of contents
17:06.54 vladbogo if you want a sub header you simply write "==SubHeader=="
17:06.58 vladbogo and so on
17:08.53 Ch3ck ok thanks
17:09.01 Ch3ck so which part of the world are u from?
17:09.12 vladbogo romania
17:09.16 vladbogo you?
17:10.02 Ch3ck Cameroon, Africa
17:10.06 Ch3ck u on facebook?
17:10.11 Ch3ck or twitter?
17:10.16 vladbogo facebook
17:10.28 Ch3ck www.facebook.com/3lroy
17:10.31 Ch3ck thanks my link
17:10.35 Ch3ck u?
17:10.50 vladbogo https://www.facebook.com/vlad.bogolin
17:12.26 Ch3ck aight
17:12.31 Ch3ck seen it
17:13.05 vladbogo me too
17:13.29 Ch3ck creating the page
17:13.45 Ch3ck so are u a CSC major?
17:16.28 vladbogo yes i study CS
17:16.41 vladbogo you too I suppose?
17:21.13 Ch3ck yup..
17:21.39 Ch3ck so how many geeks are in ur community..
17:21.50 Ch3ck cuz here its hard to find a good programmer
17:21.58 Ch3ck except in school
17:25.38 Ch3ck vladbogo: i tried to save the page and it gave the following error "The text you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site. "
17:25.48 Ch3ck what does this mean?
17:26.24 vladbogo i don't have any idea
17:26.49 vladbogo do you have any links in your text?
17:27.38 vladbogo here you can find quite a few good programmers but mostly just in school
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17:30.59 Ch3ck yes
17:32.29 vladbogo try removing the links and it might work
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17:36.01 Ch3ck yeah
17:36.05 Ch3ck its starting to work
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17:37.32 vladbogo that's good :)
17:46.21 Ch3ck yeah
17:46.32 Ch3ck but i have not succeeded in pasting all the parts
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18:04.29 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 5097 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/Proposal: /*Links */
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18:12.43 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 5101 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/Proposal: /* Time availability */
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18:18.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 5102 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/Proposal: /* Introduction = */
18:20.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 5103 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/Proposal: /* The Working of the Pull Routine */
18:22.03 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 5104 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/Proposal: /* July 1st (~ 3 weeks) */
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18:27.30 Ch3ck succeeded in posting my proposal
18:27.38 Ch3ck so how do i upload a patch
18:31.57 vladbogo to submit a patch visit http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/patches/
18:32.20 vladbogo log in and then press Create Ticket
18:32.45 vladbogo you find additional info there on how to obtain the file you need to submit
18:35.47 kesha Ch3ck: Did u check the mail ?
18:36.04 Ch3ck yeah
18:36.08 Ch3ck checked
18:36.16 Ch3ck and i have already pasted my proposal
18:36.28 Ch3ck just waiting for feedback from the mentors
18:36.31 kesha great
18:36.32 Ch3ck here is the link
18:36.35 kesha link ?
18:37.20 Ch3ck http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/Proposal
18:37.25 Ch3ck yes
18:37.29 Ch3ck the link to my proposal
18:37.47 Ch3ck just want to know what u think i can improve.
18:42.36 kesha I m not the right one to review. Even my proposal's review is pending .
18:43.06 kesha Whenever develpers will get time, they will do it..
18:43.11 kesha Have Patience !
18:43.28 kesha Btw, Its looks great..
18:43.46 kesha Did u go for it on melange ?
18:44.30 Ch3ck yeah?
18:44.52 Ch3ck well i think my approach to developing the push routine needs more light
18:45.04 Ch3ck just waiting to hear what the mentors will say.
18:45.47 kesha Good Luck !
18:49.17 Ch3ck yeah thanks
18:49.24 Ch3ck so what project are u working on?
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18:55.27 Ch3ck succeeded in submitting my code patch..
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19:46.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 55248 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/SurfaceCurve.cpp: looks like t_pcurve_or_surface is the select type, and the underlying type should be one of pcurve or surface
19:48.09 Ch3ck brlcad: waiting on your feedback from my proposal
19:48.49 Ch3ck Good bye gus
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20:28.14 rays2pix I assume that in brlcad we are dealing with raster formats only. Do we need vector formats too?
20:29.52 ``Erik at the moment, it's all raster... something like svg would be nice for things like rtedge, but we don't have that capability yet
20:32.11 rays2pix Okay Erik, I will try to handle the various raster formats for GSoC project. If time permits I would extend it to SVG alikes
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21:08.54 zero_level hii all..
21:09.40 zero_level how important is bactracking for BRLCAD
21:10.01 zero_level I mean accessibility for current functions..
21:10.17 zero_level current tools in future versions
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