IRC log for #brlcad on 20130523

00:20.29 starseeker brlcad: http://brlcad.org/~starseeker/brlcad_build_log_openindiana.txt
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02:50.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55542 (brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ami.tcl brlcad/trunk/src/tclscripts/ampi.tcl): fix the silent error that was causing mged to run without a slew of commands being available. if we can't build a tclIndex, stop hard because something went terribly wrong. sync ami.tcl and ampi.tcl too so they basically do the same thing (might want to merge at some point). print the actual error if there was one.
02:51.32 brlcad starseeker: yep, I skipped some of the indiana warnings because they're libc implementation errors
02:53.36 brlcad the paste issue is compiler options needing adjustment
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03:10.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55543 brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_system.h: quell mass of openindiana warnings for NAME_MAX not being defined
03:34.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55544 brlcad/trunk/src/other/openNURBS/opennurbs_system.h: also provide isfinite(), but comment out both so they can be specifically tested
03:41.53 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55545 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_mem.c: quell redefinition error for openindiana
03:48.30 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55546 brlcad/trunk/src/anim/anim_offset.c: don't shadow time
03:49.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55547 brlcad/trunk/src/anim/anim_keyread.c: anothoer time shadow
04:04.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55548 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/fb-rle.xml: remove extended characters
04:16.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55549 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/fb-rle.xml: indent and format to look for tag errors, but looks clean
04:17.37 brlcad starseeker: I think that's all of them from that log file
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11:11.22 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Phoenix * 5303 /wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Proposal: /* Links */
11:27.00 starseeker brlcad: I'm not too concerned about the lex issue - the correct answer there is to convert that code to re2c/lemon anyway.
11:27.20 starseeker I'll give it another go tonight
11:29.50 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 55550 (brlcad/trunk/include/brep.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp and 3 others): Fix return value of ON_Intersect (SSI) - returns the number of intersection events (consistent with openNURBS), and add comment to brep.h. Remove the uncessary check of OPENNURBS_PLUS_INC_, and reduce debugging messages.
11:30.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Phoenix * 5304 /wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Proposal: /* Things I have done this year */
11:50.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 55551 (brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/CMakeLists.txt and 3 others): link openNURBS statically in brlcad.dlldoing so some of the Windows-DLL-import/export-flag logic can be simplified
12:19.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 55552 (brlcad/trunk/src/librt/tests/arb_intersect.g =================================================================== (Binary files differ)): Add a test geometry for SSI - surface tree approach is not so suitable for intersection of two plane surfaces, and we need some special handling. It includes transverse intersection curve, tangent intersection curve, tangent intersection point,
12:19.07 Notify overlap intersection and some other corner cases - a good test case to test to find the problem in and improve the SSI routine.
12:21.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Phoenix * 5305 /wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Proposal: /* Things I have done this year */
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15:22.31 Notify 03BRL-CAD:indianlarry * 55553 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/tables.c: For the 'idents' command skip over non-union combinations above the region level, these members of a combination don't add positively to the defined regions of space and their region ID's will not show up along a shotline unless positively added elsewhere in the hierarchy. This is causing headaches for users generating an association table from our
15:22.33 Notify 'idents' listing.
15:45.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55554 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: the idents command now skips over non-union combination members above the region level. to quote commit r55553: these members of a combination don't add positively to the defined regions of space and their region ID's will not show up along a shotline unless positively added elsewhere in the hierarchy. This was causing headaches for users generating an association table
15:45.26 Notify from our idents listing.
15:49.47 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55555 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Aiming to finally release 7.24.0 on Monday! Good times ... r55555 woot!
16:13.57 starseeker bugger - getting a regression test failure
16:14.43 brlcad starseeker: which one?
16:14.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55556 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: talked with some of our s2 users and we're going to go ahead with the new INFINITY values even though they introduce/expose changes to results. changing infinity results in slightly different bsp cell traversal (grazing case) but the object being reported was always on the shotline to begin with. the decision was to allow this change since the new hits encountered
16:14.58 brlcad I'm getting a command not found error on regress-mged
16:14.59 Notify are correct.
16:15.09 brlcad which is what I was working on yesterday with the cmake changes
16:15.43 brlcad some build system issue, tcl file not found
16:16.03 starseeker hmm - this is a bu_bomb of some sort
16:16.42 starseeker wipeout in bu_noise_init
16:21.40 starseeker ah, might be my fault
16:22.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 55557 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/tests/CMakeLists.txt: add arb_intersect.g to the CMAKEFILES list.
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16:53.32 starseeker yeah, my fault
16:53.54 starseeker had a local change I forgot to revert - regression passing now
16:54.16 starseeker brlcad: you still seeing your error?
16:55.10 brlcad will test, but I presume yes because it was a different test
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17:52.37 brlcad starseeker: I found the error, it's because of symlinking instead of copy
17:53.04 brlcad fortunately not major and workaroundable
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18:37.29 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55558 brlcad/trunk/src/sig/bw-d.c: implement -h, -?
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19:45.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 5307 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
19:51.54 brlcad gdb --args bin/nirt -xffffffff -b -e "units in; xyz -181.91 0 96; dir -1 0 0; s; q;" ../infbug.g tube
19:52.39 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 5308 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
19:54.21 starseeker woot - finally, someone other than Apple getting into high PPI screens - both Google and Toshiba are getting into the game (finally)
19:54.57 starseeker 12.85" 2560x1700 :-)
19:56.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Jasleen Kaur * 5309 /wiki/User:Jasleen_Kaur:
20:01.28 jasleen brlcad: Is my approach of work wrong?
20:06.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55559 brlcad/trunk/src/sig/bw-d.c: supply 'bad argument' message for arguments other than the prescribed ones
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20:27.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55560 brlcad/trunk/src/fb/bw-fb.c: supplied h and ? as help flags; converted old h to H because the workaround would require BOTH s and S in place of old h
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20:58.07 starseeker drools... a 3:2 aspect ratio on a truly high DPI screen... kinda ironic that the ultimate programmers laptop screen is in a machine that comes with such a locked-down OS
21:04.34 mpictor starseeker: slightly higher resolution than the nexus 10 http://bergie.iki.fi/files/nexus10-shell.png
21:05.16 starseeker grins - now *that's* what laptop screenshots *should* look like
21:05.38 mpictor he claims to like it, but of course it's limited to wifi since he's compiling on a desktop
21:05.40 mpictor http://bergie.iki.fi/blog/six-weeks-working-android/
21:06.21 mpictor yea... if only those buttons at the bottom didn't waste soooo much space!
21:06.57 starseeker that's why the reports that you can run Ubuntu on the chromebook pixel make it interesting
21:07.08 starseeker fluxbox + gkrellm for the win
21:07.18 mpictor huh. didn't realize that was possible
21:07.50 starseeker http://lifehacker.com/how-to-install-linux-on-a-chromebook-and-unlock-its-ful-509039343
21:07.50 mpictor not too surprising since google uses 100% goobuntu internally
21:08.57 starseeker wouldn't be worth squat with just Chrom OS, but a full Linux distribution makes it an entirely different proposition
21:08.59 ``Erik starseeker: what machine has the 3:2 high resolution?
21:09.07 starseeker Chromebook Pixel
21:09.38 starseeker http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromebook_Pixel
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21:09.48 ``Erik hm, saw the samsung one a couple days ago, but I think it's 16:9 or something
21:10.10 starseeker yeah, this sucker is apperently the ultimate in laptop screens for the moment
21:10.21 ``Erik touch screen, even
21:10.30 ``Erik a bazillion pixels hidden by smudges
21:11.00 starseeker Torvalds himself likes it, so it's a pretty good candidate for proper Linux support: http://www.zdnet.com/chromebooks-biggest-fan-linus-torvalds-7000012842/
21:11.28 mpictor my n10 is 2560x1600, and I really don't notice smudges on it
21:11.44 starseeker is trying to think of the last time he saw *any* laptop screen with a 3:2 ratio...
21:12.54 starseeker not what google designed it for, but that has "programming laptop" written all over it (given the proper OS)
21:13.44 starseeker is not a fan of "short and wide" in laptop screens - or desktop either, come to think of it
21:14.21 mpictor I *hate* 16:9
21:14.45 ``Erik <-- still on an old macbook with 1280x800, so *shrug* all of 'em look good
21:16.03 starseeker <snort> - ``Erik, with your approach to hardware I'm surprised you're not staring at an old green CRT and wondering what all the fuss is about with this "full color" thing
21:16.42 starseeker *likes* being able to have a zillion terminals and documents open at once without them overlapping
21:18.06 starseeker funny how things change - these days $1,500 is considered a very expensive laptop. If you factor in inflation especially, you don't have to go back so far before that wouldn't have gotten you much of anything
21:18.07 ``Erik I, um, actually do still have a monochrome vga display somewhere... 640x400!
21:19.14 starseeker hands ``Erik +3 nerd points - touchée
21:19.37 starseeker what's its power consumption like?
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21:20.03 ``Erik I don't think this laptop can hold a number that big
21:20.11 starseeker heh
21:20.39 ``Erik but ya throw the big rocker switch and it does make an impressive 'bzzt'
21:21.39 ``Erik my next laptop might still be a mac, mostly due to xcode/ios
21:22.20 starseeker nods - yeah, that's the logical platform for that work
21:23.20 mpictor I've been using KDevelop for a couple years. It has improved drastically from the 3.x versions. Never tried xcode, but I do hear that it's good.
21:23.46 starseeker is still quite fond of the Mac retina machines - without them, no one would be pushing PPI on laptop screens at all
21:24.27 starseeker however annoying the Mac "walled garden" approach may be, they do at least force the industry to keep moving
21:24.45 mpictor that they do
21:25.22 starseeker mpictor: I poked at KDevelop once or twice - I probably should look at it again, I understand they have pretty good CMake support
21:26.33 mpictor your relative path commit make kdevelop crash, but they fixed it within a couple days
21:26.45 starseeker heh - oops
21:27.12 starseeker wonder what would happen with the full BRL-CAD cmake build logic
21:27.22 starseeker that's quite a bit more gnarly
21:27.57 mpictor their cmake support is pretty good, but they do parse the files themselves - so things don't match 100%
21:28.20 mpictor I'd try it myself, but you guys haven't moved to git yet
21:28.20 starseeker ah - yeah, now that you say that I remember a developer discussing that with them on the CMake list
21:28.25 mpictor svn is slooooooooow
21:28.46 starseeker mpictor: heh - actually, things got a lot better in that regard now that sf.net has upgraded things
21:33.02 mpictor is impressed
21:33.26 mpictor I thought they'd _never_ upgrade
21:33.58 mpictor BTW, your twitter url is invalid at http://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad/
21:52.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55561 brlcad/trunk/src/util/bw-imp.c: implement h and ? as help flags; old h is replaced by '-s 1024'
21:53.50 kesha_ Read this. http://opensource.com/government/13/2/bug-fix-day Awesome!! :)
21:56.26 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 55562 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bw-imp.xml: change the man page for bw-imp; old h has been removed
22:26.23 ``Erik mpictor: http://brlcad.org/brlcad.git/
22:26.25 brlcad mpictor: thanks, will fix
22:28.22 ``Erik huh, doesn't seem to have updated since april 22 O.o
22:37.08 ``Erik heh http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/dalek-bottom-british-pond-biding-time.html
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