IRC log for #brlcad on 20130614

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15:08.15 brlcad hi kesha_ ltns!
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15:51.51 kesha_ hi brlcad, I was not well. Doctor advised complete rest. Feeling better now. Back to work from today :)
15:52.06 kesha_ Hows release work going ?
15:52.57 zero_level kesha_ : release 7.24 happened yesterday !
15:55.10 brlcad kesha_: good to hear that you're better, send us a quick line to let someone know you're sick so we won't think that you're drunk in a hole somewhere! starting to get worried.. :)
15:55.36 brlcad release is posted, announcements should be going out soon
15:56.08 brlcad ``Erik: can you post windows binaries? or see if bob can?
15:56.28 zero_level In the midst of this weather, things could be worse. Take care ! :-)
15:56.45 kesha_ Mark knows about it. Who is working on Outreach department of release ?
15:57.01 brlcad kesha_: okay, that's good to hear
15:57.35 kesha_ zero_level: thanks :)
15:58.57 kesha_ brlcad: If possible, add a small news about release to brlcad.org :)
16:00.56 kesha_ I thought I would, but it seems I dont have access to edit that webpage.
16:01.48 ``Erik brlcad: richard is using his windows machine and both bob and cliff are out so that office is locked... I'll ask richard if he can cook some
16:06.50 ``Erik he says he'll try, but he's concerned that the build path will have his name in it
16:07.02 brlcad kesha_: we have an extensive release process we follow... which includes updating the website
16:07.43 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55780 brlcad/trunk/HACKING: automation and reduction. there are steps we're not doing, reflect on why and adjust: too many compiles. once we pass tests on trunk, make the latter checks be more simple. provide even more automation to include lines for creating new binary dirs and uploading release notes into them. also *automatically* update the README and NEWS files with a little bit of regex
16:07.45 Notify magic. release is almost fully automatable into a script now...
16:08.13 brlcad kesha_: but you certainly can help -- care to try and write some release notes here: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Community_Publication_Portal
16:08.25 brlcad a fresh voice would be nice
16:08.56 brlcad ``Erik: heh, well the build path is going to have someone's name in it, right?
16:09.02 brlcad what's he scared of?
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16:11.41 ``Erik "the stigma of screwing it up" (after I called it "the credit and kudos for doing a release") :) I suggested trying to make a tmp type directory that doesn't have username in path, so he's going to give that a shot... we'll see what happens
16:12.41 brlcad yeah, tell him it's something he can put in his accomplishments
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16:13.46 kesha_ brlcad: I am reading that. Can you also provide me some links regarding the length, past release announcements etc ?
16:14.06 brlcad kesha_: as short as possible while being as informative as possible :)
16:14.19 brlcad all of the previous announcements are on the website
16:14.32 brlcad and on sourceforge in the news section
16:15.53 kesha_ I am very fond of this task. I had once contributed for KDE's outreach, an article for dot about the annual KDE meetup - http://dot.kde.org/2013/03/07/kde-meetup-2013-india
16:16.35 kesha_ Cool, I will look at them :)
16:18.00 brlcad kesha_: we can work on it together this time around
16:18.53 brlcad we need to get back to publishing outreach articles weekly, so there's a lot of possibilities
16:19.24 brlcad an outreach manager would be a role I'd like to see someone eventually fill
16:22.06 brlcad for the announcement, a summary or reworking of our release notes is usually a starting point
16:23.32 brlcad we usually need a detailed long version (for the website and some news channels), the same length or a shorter version for our mailing lists, and a 1-paragraph short summary (for other news channels)
16:24.02 brlcad along with one image that embodies the article
16:25.47 kesha_ Ok. So has anyone started preparing anything for the same ? Or shall I start upon it ?
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16:33.17 brlcad kesha_: suggest just starting on it and we can see how it evolves
16:33.23 kesha_ inspired by reading interviews of Andrei, Phoenix, Jordi Sayol :) Loved listening them.
16:34.07 kesha_ brlcad: great ! (y)
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16:48.19 ``Erik cool, git mirror is back to updating O.o (dang perl issues)
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16:55.13 starseeker kesha_: which interviews were those?
16:57.27 starseeker on the Community Portal page?
17:03.37 kesha_ starseeker: yes.
17:04.14 kesha_ Their experience, their journey description..
17:05.10 starseeker cool (was wondering if someone had interviewed them with audio for a tech radio show or some such :-)
17:06.54 kesha_ We can have it from now onwards ;) *Its never too late to mend* :D
17:12.45 ``Erik huh, even rhel is switching from mysql to mariadb
17:24.49 brlcad nobody likes oracle
17:25.26 zero_level hi do we have some protocol for number of arguments in a library funcnction ?
17:30.26 zero_level *function ?
17:30.50 ``Erik brlcad: richard is going to try to upload to sf this evening if it builds ok, do you want him to send you an email when it happens?
17:31.12 ``Erik (he wants someone to doublecheck/approve)
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17:33.57 ``Erik (whups, he doesn't seem to have the ability to add a file to sf)
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18:39.55 brlcad ``Erik: sure he can just upload it
18:40.08 brlcad I already uploaded release notes, just needs the installer
18:42.21 brlcad ``Erik: he now also has the ability to upload files
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18:55.35 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55782 brlcad/trunk/HACKING: counting ftl
19:17.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55783 brlcad/trunk/TODO: remove two dozen entries that are either completed, fixed, or otherwise overcome by events
19:23.40 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55784 brlcad/trunk/TODO: there's a lot of them, so separate proposed new object types into their own section
19:25.09 maths22 brlcad: once this is released, should I create a new VM image?
19:26.14 brlcad maths22: that would be really awesome
19:26.28 brlcad you worked on that for GCI as well, yes?
19:26.51 maths22 I think so; it was my last task.
19:27.08 brlcad yeah, me too
19:27.39 brlcad that would be really great, you can even spruce it up if you like, try to make it even better
19:28.07 brlcad brl-cad logo as the desktop background would be cool if it's not already
19:28.22 maths22 actually, I had done the qemu testing one
19:28.32 maths22 caen23 did the vm one
19:30.11 maths22 I will have to start from the existing one, as caen23 never uploaded the enormous original file
19:30.20 maths22 his modifed version, that is
19:30.26 maths22 the logo is the background alread
19:30.42 maths22 y I will have to take a look later
19:30.53 maths22 When do you expect the release to be ready?
19:42.47 brlcad maths22: release is already tagged and uploaded
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19:42.58 brlcad just haven't sent out announcements yet
19:43.32 brlcad for the VM, suggest just having it have a checkout of the STABLE branch
19:43.45 brlcad it'll have to get updated for the new sf.net URL anyways
19:44.21 brlcad putting it on stable should give a good baseline for testing and help make future updates just a matter of updating the checkout to whatever the latest stable is
19:44.28 brlcad otherwise latest trunk works too
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19:45.55 brlcad kesha__: how goes it?
19:55.44 kesha__ brlcad: good, am going through previous releases of BRL-CAD, other release from different orgs as well as googling about some stuff related to it..I will prepare the draft report 2moro. Tonight I will be reading about this stuffs.
19:55.49 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 55786 brlcad/trunk/TODO: more completed tasks including Skriptkid's work implementing thread affinity for posix threading. decided stashing a matrix as an attribute was a bad idea (bad analysis results on older versions). release steps now have automatic update steps.
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20:12.56 maths22 Ok. I forgot that I don't need an installer
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20:24.09 maths22 I probably won't be able to work on this for about 2 weeks, but I will get started once I am back in town.
20:26.14 brlcad kesha__: eep, we need to post the announcement immediately, I thought you were writing! :D
20:27.18 brlcad maths22: you mean an installer for the VM image?
20:27.53 brlcad maths22: that's cool if you can't get to it now, there's always more work to be done :)
20:28.19 brlcad your efforts on the website have been awesome all around, you interested in taking up a redesign?
20:28.48 brlcad there were several very interesting GCI prototypes, I'm sure we can come to a design consensus
20:29.59 zero_level brlcad: are u talking about brlcad.org ?
20:30.04 ``Erik brlcad: I left at 1400, he was attempting to contact you via email... might be waiting until monday if he's already left
20:31.08 zero_level ``Erik did u see my patches ?
20:31.20 zero_level i am about submit one more!
20:31.34 zero_level ^to
20:34.09 ``Erik brlcad: seem to be .exe files uploaded O.o :) guess he succeeded
20:34.15 ``Erik zero_level: not yet
20:34.38 zero_level ``Erik will u get some time today ?
20:37.17 maths22 I will take a look at a redesign. I also wonder if we could unite the drupal and mediawiki as truly one site. I'm not yet sure how to do it.
20:37.29 maths22 I meant a brlcad installer. I forgot the vm uses source :)
20:39.22 kesha__ brlcad: oops ! I just love near deadlines- it makes my potential twice from before ;)
20:43.03 brlcad ``Erik: yep he did, awesome
20:43.08 brlcad hopefully they work well enough
20:43.27 brlcad he was unhappy that grouper wasn't working, but that was a change that had to be reverted for release (broke -abc options)
20:44.00 brlcad zero_level: a lot of patches will be reviewed today and this weekend, so give them another checking to make sure they are *perfect*
20:44.04 brlcad especially style
20:44.08 brlcad kesha__: :)
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23:38.38 maths22 I looked at the new readme; what executeable is archer/mged
23:38.48 maths22 both archer and mged existed in the last release

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