IRC log for #brlcad on 20130813

00:58.53 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56765 brlcad/trunk/src/other/libgdiam/gdiam.cpp: Remove most of the comment out lines, ws
01:02.55 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56766 brlcad/trunk/src/other/libgdiam/gdiam.cpp: Add notes about approach to take for improving robustness - need to study overall algorithms to identify other points where floating point weirdness needs to be handled...
02:21.00 brlcad hot damn
02:21.48 brlcad fucking needles in haytacks
02:53.56 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 56767 brlcad/trunk/include/tie.h: since TIE tries to be coherent, document the sizes of each of the struct elements and ensure that we stay on 4-byte boundaries. ironically shows that several core data structs do not fit within a cache line when using double-precision, so this is far from optimal. related and most significantly, I'm adding two new 'b' fields (on tie_tri_s and tie_kdtree_s) to
02:53.58 Notify hold kd-tree data. reason why will become apparent in the next commit.
03:16.55 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 56768 (brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tie.c brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tie_kdtree.c brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tieprivate.h): Fix 32-bit TIE. The problem was someone trying to be far too clever packing bits into a pointer address. You read that right. Bits were being set/unset and read from WITHIN the pointer VALUE. Even remember telling Justin many many years ago
03:16.57 Notify this would be a problem, but obviously nothing came of that. My vague recollection was that he was hijacking particular bits that were always zero given particular struct allocation sizes. Of course, this is incredibly presumptuous and volatile to struct member type sizes, 32-bit vs 64-bit compilation, implicit padding/alignment issues, and more.This gets TIE working on 32-bit compilation (and generally more portably
03:16.59 Notify all around) by extracting those bit values that were being packed into their own struct element (for both the kdtree and the tri structs) where this was happening. This took quite a bit of very cautious surgery to extract and propagate the bits correctly. There may be more needed (e.g., didn't test single-precision), but seems to work swell in all the tests I threw at it. Made (probably unnecessarily) most of the...
03:19.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 56769 brlcad/trunk/BUGS: comment significantly out of date, not observed that m1151 issue in a while and have traced one since then.
03:21.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 56770 brlcad/trunk/TODO: 32b bottie crash is fixed. no comment on why existing makesegs is insufficient and backend repo was updated so can clear those out
03:30.47 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 56771 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: fixed the 32-bit librt/adrt/TIE crashes. code was trying to be far too clever packing data into a pointer address value. put the data up into the struct so we don't have to worry about the slew of things that make that a bad idea.
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05:31.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 56772 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp: We should take care of the intersection tolerance, and "fix" the "gaps" if necessary.
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10:49.49 starseeker woot!
10:49.50 starseeker brlcad++
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11:04.40 ``Erik hm, so it was over-cleverness with packing data into low bits of a pointer, the point of that was to keep the cache lines minimally packed with the 'right' data (normal for old tie was 32b float)
11:05.00 ``Erik I wonder what the performance implications are :D
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11:34.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 56773 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/raw/g-raw.c: ups, I must have overlooked this g-stl remnant
11:38.16 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56774 brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/isst_tcltk.c: strcp->bu_strncmp
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11:52.06 brlcad ``Erik: yeah, I talked about that a little bit in 56767 .. the structures were a cacheline mess for single and double precision
11:52.23 brlcad looks like he also assumed 32-bit compilation
11:53.27 brlcad either way, working .. vs fast and broken ;)
11:53.54 brlcad rather "faster" .. I didn't observe a huge impact (probably because they already go way over cache line sizes)
11:58.01 ``Erik I may've mucked up quite a bit altering things to get awayfrom tfloat for everything *shrug* :/
11:58.35 ``Erik but it works, w00t, so faster rt and one less obstacle for isst
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12:06.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 56775 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g-voxel.c: print the voxel's coordinates rather than its indicesstill needs some tests and fine tuning
12:16.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 56776 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp: Avoid getting nested polycurves, which makes ON_Brep::IsValid() to fail. If the curve we are going to append to a polycurve itself is a polycurve, we append each segments separately.
13:10.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 56777 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/mged.xml: use correct word 'within'
13:15.43 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 56778 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp: DEBUG is defined in brlcad_config.h. Use DEBUG_BREP_BOOLEAN instead.
13:17.07 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 56779 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp: l/100.0 is the normalized parameter. We should call ParameterAt().
13:18.59 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 56780 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp: Remove temporal debug message, and print more infomation for the stack error and sort failure.
13:22.33 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:NyahCh3ck20 * 5973 /wiki/User:NyahCh3ck20/GSoc2013/Coding_Repor: /* 12 August - 18 August */
13:22.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56781 brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/tests/bn_poly_sub.c: fix wording & spelling, and remove a few blank lines
13:24.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56782 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/hrt/hrt.c: fix spelling, and remove trailing blanks/tabs
13:25.38 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56783 brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/librender/cut.c: fix ray direction for initial cut shot
13:29.17 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56784 (brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/bw.c brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/decimate.c brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/pix.c): Trailing WS
13:38.28 Notify 03BRL-CAD:phoenixyjll * 56785 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/boolean.cpp: Returning the result of minus and implicit conversion to int for comparison is not correct for floating points. Should use explicit > and < comparison.
13:41.05 Izak_ ``Erik: Please can you take a look at the rt_hrt_describe() routine I have written here http://paste.kde.org/p37dcb7dc/
13:42.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 56786 brlcad/trunk/src/libged/comb_color.c: remove command name from usage string (fixes double listing inside mged)
13:42.38 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Phoenix * 5974 /wiki/User:Phoenix/GSoc2013/Reports: /* Week 9 */
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14:06.29 ``Erik Izak_: looks good to me *shrug*
14:23.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 56787 (brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/BrlcadCore.def brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/brlcad.def): rt_g is now RTG
14:27.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 56788 brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/CMakeLists.txt: include libgdiam into the brlcad.dll
14:31.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:d_rossberg * 56789 brlcad/trunk/misc/win32-msvc/Dll/BrlcadCore.rc: somebody said the old eagle logo taboo, replaced it with the new gear logo in the brlcad.dll
14:43.36 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 56790 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/mged.xml: add a section on scripting mged
14:47.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:iiizzzaaakkk * 56791 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/hrt/hrt.c: rt_hrt_describe() routine to present heart in human-readable form
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14:53.55 brlcad Izak_: looks godo to me too. describe is for the 'l' command in mged and is just meant to be human-readable without a specific format
15:09.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56792 (brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ON_Brep.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwrect.c): remove trailing blanks/tabs
15:11.40 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56793 (brlcad/trunk/src/conv/g-voxel.c brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/hrt/hrt.c): remove trailing blanks/tabs, and fix a spelling
15:16.54 Izak_ brlcad:``Erik: okay commited it already
15:22.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:IIIzzzaaakkk * 5976 /wiki/User:Izak/GSOC_2013_logs: /* August 12th to August 17th */
16:44.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56794 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ON_Brep.cpp: Start working on surfaces for g-step
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16:53.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56795 (rtcmp/trunk/configure.ac rtcmp/trunk/rt/rt.c rtcmp/trunk/tri.c): cope with changes in the BRL-CAD API
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17:06.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56796 (rtcmp/trunk/adrt/adrt.c rtcmp/trunk/configure.ac): updates for the version of TIE integrated into librt
17:10.59 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56797 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ON_Brep.cpp: Add general nurbs surfaces, add knots as well.
17:17.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Harman052 * 5977 /wiki/User:Harman052/GSoc2013/Logs:
17:39.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD:ejno * 56798 brlcad/branches/opencl/src/librt/primitives/sph/sph.c: load OpenCL code from a file; use the librt formula
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18:07.33 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56800 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/euclid/g-euclid.c: removed 's:' from bu_getopt argument string, because it is unused
18:26.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56801 (rtcmp/trunk/adrt/adrt.c rtcmp/trunk/dry/dry.c and 4 others): various warning quellage
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18:31.21 zero_level brlcad , ``Erik: It is strange that pixrect has an option of number of bytes.
18:31.31 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56803 brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/isst: escape key now exits
18:31.56 zero_level bytes_per_pixel
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18:32.04 zero_level Do you think this is needed ?
18:32.28 zero_level is modifiying the utils to use icv library.
18:34.03 ``Erik I'd guess it's there to allow it to be used on bw images as well? I don't know if there're any other good reasons to have that knob
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18:34.19 zero_level we have bwrect as well.
18:34.28 zero_level I think its good to remove that.
18:34.49 zero_level ``Erik : Is there are process to easily change the man pages.
18:34.57 zero_level i see them as xml files
18:35.50 ``Erik a lot of them have been converted to docbook, so the xml generates the roff, html, pdf, etc
18:36.09 zero_level wants to update the doc pages of utils.
18:36.42 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56804 brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwrect.c: Remove Debug Parameters from bwrect.c
18:38.49 zero_level so do u suggest editing the xml files ?
18:39.27 zero_level in this case doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bwrect
18:39.36 zero_level .xml
18:42.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:erikgreenwald * 56805 brlcad/trunk/src/adrt/isst: fix namespace seperator
19:07.36 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56806 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bwrect.xml: Documnetation for bwrect utility
19:07.43 zero_level brlcad, ``Erik : Do we document the api fucntions somewhere ? Other than the doxygen comments ?
19:09.10 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56807 brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwrect.c: Correct Typo.
19:13.19 zero_level also ``Erik : just found that the pixrect utility is designed such that it can extract rectangles from any datatype like arrays of floats etc.
19:13.31 zero_level I am not sure if that is required.
19:23.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56808 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ON_Brep.cpp: Start building topology - looks like we may have an issue with the SdaiEdge_loop initialization.
19:26.06 zero_level what is the difference between
19:26.23 zero_level bwrect [-n height]
19:26.37 zero_level bwrect -n height
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19:32.04 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56809 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/ON_Brep.cpp: Add a note to check out the diamond inheritance fix recently made to stepcode - may relate to this edge_loop issue.
20:05.59 ``Erik zero_level: the '[]' indicates that it's an optional parameter
20:06.41 ``Erik http://superuser.com/questions/134166/how-to-read-unix-usage has some info
20:07.47 zero_level also ``Erik : i would like to know about the scope of pixrect.
20:08.42 zero_level Do u think It is fine to limit its uses for 3 channel pix images. Provided we have one for bw images (bwrect).
20:09.58 ``Erik I honestly don't know... in theory, we should have an icv_rect() function that can cope with whatever happens to be in the opaque container...
20:10.30 ``Erik but I don't know if any tools exist that use this byte size behavior...
20:11.35 ``Erik rocks an eyebrow at r23652
20:11.41 ``Erik s/r/c/
20:15.00 ``Erik hm, variable pixel size was added in 1986 by Phil (I assume Dykstra), r1212
20:15.46 ``Erik before that, Mike (Muuss) had written it to be the 3 byte pix format
20:16.31 ``Erik bwrect existed at r877
20:19.03 ``Erik so the option probably existed for some reason other than handling bw
20:23.58 zero_level ``Erik : but we use icv containers.
20:24.47 zero_level and it has limitation in the type data it can contain. (as agreed by all of us)
20:26.01 zero_level ``Erik how do u see revision dating back to r877 and r1212. (curious)
20:27.25 ``Erik there's a "hitch" in the 22000's, check out an older version and you can continue... I've mostly been using the git conversion for looking at old stuff :)
20:28.18 zero_level ?
20:28.47 ``Erik maybe the -# option should throw an error, or override the current behavior... I d'no... maybe another mentor or sr dev has an opinion :)
20:29.17 zero_level alright. So do you think i should be posting a mail ?
20:29.45 ``Erik sure, probably a good thing to do... answers might come back via mailing list or via irc, though
20:32.41 zero_level ok. I will modify it and post it to brlcad-devel list.
20:32.49 zero_level Lets see if any one has an issue.
20:32.59 zero_level ``Erik : thanks :)
20:52.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56810 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/bwrect.xml brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwrect.c): Add higher dimensional flag in bwrect
21:20.38 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 56811 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h brlcad/trunk/src/librt/search.c): Start inching towards the new db_search API. Move the to-be-deprecated search header contents into their own file. Can't flag them yet because they are still used.
21:21.51 Notify 03BRL-CAD:r_weiss * 56812 (brlcad/trunk/include/tie.h brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/bot/tie.c and 2 others): Changes to BOT-TIE to remove bit operations.
21:23.11 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56813 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/euclid/g-euclid1.c: implement h?, and add P to the Usage
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21:25.24 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56814 (brlcad/trunk/src/util/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixrect.c): pixrect modified to use icv api. It now no longer supports bytes_per pixel option and assumes 3 bytes for .pix files. Also prompting has been removed. Supports only command line arguments.
21:46.54 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 56815 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/jack/g-jack.c: add h?, and, in the Usage, add P
22:25.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56816 (brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwrect.c brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixrect.c): use bu_log instead of fprintf for showing up error messages.
22:26.43 brlcad zero_level: we're getting away from -h meaning "high resolution", just so you know
22:26.53 brlcad -h and -? should universally provide some sort of help
22:27.21 brlcad and there should be a -s or -S size option and/or -nheight -wwidth options
22:28.33 brlcad the change you made in r56810 is fine because you didn't actually say it was high res in the docs, just in the commit message
22:31.47 zero_level brlcad : Thanks for informing me. I will take care while taking on other utils
22:32.43 zero_level brlcad : Also I wanted some feedback regarding r56814
22:32.53 zero_level Sent a mail on brlcad-devellist
22:34.20 brlcad saw it
22:34.57 brlcad will have to investigate but probably covered by other functionality
22:35.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56817 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: Added news for bwrect.
22:40.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 56818 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: mohit improved bwrect to accept redirected input/output image, improved usability/consistency.
22:40.32 brlcad the commit messages for the NEWS file are also important, they're automatically extracted for reports
22:40.55 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 56819 (brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwrect.c brlcad/trunk/src/util/pixrect.c): -h option no longer means higher resolution images. It points to help regarding utility.
22:41.03 brlcad so they should include information that won't fit on the one-liner like why/how/when/impact/etc
22:42.32 brlcad feel free to remove all references to high-resolution ;)
22:42.42 zero_level brlcad : Thanks for the update in NEWS.
22:43.16 zero_level I was just going to ask you to review. I was ultra cautioned while writting. And this is better. :)
22:43.45 brlcad it was almost perfect
22:44.03 zero_level brlcad : about higher resolution i will do them as i move on.
22:44.27 brlcad pipes are '|' while '>' and '<' are redirections
22:44.27 zero_level brlcad : I am currently also looking at png format images
22:44.45 brlcad cool
22:44.45 zero_level i mean a seperate png.c
22:45.10 zero_level ``Erik,brlcad : I just wanted to ask a concern regarding saving.
22:45.43 brlcad so what does it do now if I say bwrect -s 512 -S 256 <file.bw > file.png
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22:46.23 brlcad ~seen kesha
22:46.27 infobot kesha <~kesha@14.139.122.114> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 9d 11h 12m 23s ago, saying: 'Deadline is approaching ..'.
22:46.48 brlcad ah
22:46.50 brlcad ~seen kesha_
22:46.50 infobot kesha_ <~kesha@14.139.122.114> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 8d 6h 24m 21s ago, saying: 'brlcad: ya, I am attaching new patch over there'.
22:46.57 brlcad hm
22:47.23 brlcad ah, so hasn't talked in 8 days
22:49.16 zero_level Do we always save png files in 32 bits images every time. (since we have better resolution structure) or ask the user what he wants to do ?
22:49.43 zero_level brlcad : I will pass your msg to kesha_.
22:51.41 zero_level by 32 bits images i meant 32bits / pixel.
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22:52.46 zero_level I prefer we save the images in 32 bits / pixel image.
22:53.19 zero_level While we can read from whatever depth is available.
23:04.57 zero_level brlcad : as of now we dont have png in place.
23:06.06 zero_level I mean png saving in place. As per the current practice this will save the cropped image in bw format to file.png
23:06.27 zero_level so file.png will be a bw image with a wrong specifier.
23:38.36 brlcad zero_level: don't worry (about kesha)
23:39.15 brlcad zero_level: are you sure about that? (bw written as file.png?)
23:39.28 brlcad not saying I doubt you, just seeking confirmation (test it.. :)
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