IRC log for #brlcad on 20130831

00:31.18 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57347 brlcad/trunk/src/other/CMakeLists.txt: Make sure stepcode's directories are the same as ours.
00:33.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57348 (brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/include/CMakeLists.txt): If we're using SC_BINARY_DIR to generate these files, need to use it for the install rule too - SC_BINARY_DIR doesn't always equal CMAKE_BINARY_DIR
01:35.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57349 (brlcad/trunk/src/other/stepcode/doc/man/man1/fedex_plus.1 =================================================================== and 178 others): Whoops - rename man page.
02:18.10 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57350 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt: Update name of extra manpage output for bu_ntohd.3
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02:49.27 FLOSSrookie In order to become proficient with brlcad will I need to learn Tcl?
03:03.20 brlcad FLOSSrookie: nope
03:03.39 brlcad it just happens to be the embedded command interpreter
03:04.00 brlcad like how AutoCAD has a lisp command interpreter, you certainly don't need to learn lisp
03:04.56 brlcad ``Erik: thanks
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04:06.52 FLOSSrookie My Internet connection is just horrible. So, if it says disconnected you will know why.
04:06.52 FLOSSrookie In order to become proficient with brlcad will I need to learn Tcl?
04:07.24 FLOSSrookie I'll ask tomorrow if no one is here.
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05:33.13 Notify 03BRL-CAD:mohitdaga * 57351 brlcad/trunk/src/libicv/TODO: Comments in icv.h have been aligned to 70 col. (Thanks sean).
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10:50.29 Ch3ck_ brlcad: all corrrections I made to the applied patches are in patch 231
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11:09.03 Ch3ck_ brlcad: checked the bn_poly_sub() routine and the values generated by octave I use as reference and different from those generated by bn_poly_sub() routine in poly.c
11:10.03 Ch3ck_ wondering whether bn_poly_sub() could actually be wrong?
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13:10.38 Ch3ck has finished testing regression test for pull
14:10.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57355 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/CMakeLists.txt and 5 others): Add purpose-specific stylesheet templates for the various documentation types we have present (just copies of the previous generic ones, for now) and rework CMake logic so each document type is setting up its own stylesheets.
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15:27.46 brlcad Ch3ck: okay, cool -- will try to give it a look over this weekend, but can you investigate the bn_poly_sub difference -- find an equation with an exact/known solution, and compare
15:31.32 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 57356 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man3/en/CMakeLists.txt: remove bu_htond.xml per Sean's suggestion - leaving the set_source_files_properties example in place as a comment, in case future xml man pages are used to generate multiple outputs.
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16:08.54 brlcad starseeker: was all of the important info from the manpage in doxygen?
16:08.59 brlcad (bu.h)
16:15.17 kesha brlcad: Sorry for being so late. I had successfully compiled, build, ran from source and read the manual on conversion. Then, I was playing with different geometry in mged, as I gave a quick glance to manual 2 on Mged.
16:16.24 kesha For conversion between geometry, when I try it says "Reading Data from file.g ... " and the process continues for long time
16:16.44 kesha step-g -o stepout.stp /home/kesha/brlcad/build/share/db/ktank.g -> this is what I tried
16:17.06 kesha I waited for an hr, and then closed it. Am I going in right direction ?
16:17.57 kesha Approx in how much time does a conversion complete ? Does it take hours ? :O
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16:34.43 brlcad kesha: no, you're doing it wrong
16:34.58 brlcad what does step-g do?
16:35.43 kesha oops , shit ! I just realized I had placed input in place of output and vice versa
16:36.12 kesha It converts step to g.
16:36.30 kesha Not g to step . my bad.
16:36.51 brlcad have you successfully used one of the other converters?
16:37.33 brlcad you should do that first, with at least two others just to give you some quick perspective that you'll know what to expect
16:37.34 kesha This is the first I am trying. First try with some non-step ?
16:37.39 Notify 03BRL-CAD:indianlarry * 57359 (brlcad/branches/nurbs/NEWS brlcad/branches/nurbs/TODO and 100 others): Merging trunk into branch 'nurbs' r:57224:57357
16:37.49 brlcad do you need another checklist? :)
16:37.50 kesha ascii ?
16:37.54 brlcad i said that a couple days ago
16:38.21 brlcad what other importers are there?
16:39.31 kesha g-acad, g-dxf, g-euclid, g-iges, g-stl etc
16:39.37 kesha exporters
16:40.08 kesha and interchanged *-g importer
16:40.32 brlcad had me worried for a second
16:40.39 kesha like dxf-g enf-g euclid-g iges-g
16:40.40 brlcad yes the *-g are the importers
16:41.31 brlcad so pick a few of the importers, say dxf-g, 3dm-g, and stl-g
16:41.45 brlcad find some geometry, import them, view them
16:42.06 brlcad you need to know what you're importing to know whether it imported correctly
16:42.18 brlcad so you need a picture or need to open it in some other program
16:42.24 brlcad make sense?
16:42.27 kesha what do you mean by "view" exactly ?
16:42.33 brlcad i mean look at it
16:42.36 brlcad see what the geometry looks like
16:42.44 brlcad this is 3d geometry, so it better look like something 3d ;)
16:42.50 kesha in mged/archer ?
16:42.52 kesha :P
16:43.04 brlcad that's one of many ways to look at it, sure
16:43.27 brlcad if you've read IV and parts of II, you should know how to look at it
16:43.36 brlcad if you don't, ask questions
16:44.09 brlcad archer+rt or mged+rt are perfectly viable to view the import
16:44.51 brlcad but again, its' not just to look at it -- it's to understand what you imported, how you specified that import, what hierarchy resulted after import
16:44.58 brlcad you'll notice each of the tools is a little different
16:45.29 brlcad mged file.g ls
16:45.31 brlcad mged file.g tops
16:45.48 brlcad mged file.g tree some-top-lvl-obj
16:46.03 brlcad mged file.g rt some-obj
16:46.10 brlcad or you can do that all within mged/archer
16:46.19 brlcad comprendes?
16:46.53 kesha okay. I am trying
16:47.14 kesha don't know spanish
16:47.32 kesha Understood
16:48.50 brlcad great
16:48.54 brlcad so try that for a bit
16:49.01 brlcad grabcad.com has a ton of stuff
16:49.48 brlcad google can give you lots of stuff (just search for "filetype:obj truck" or "filetype:dxf boat" for example)
16:50.03 brlcad and there's a bunch in that url I gave you earlier, brlcad.org/private/geometry
16:50.59 brlcad once you're comfortable and AFTER you've used three other converters, give the step-g importer a try on something 1) using 7.22.0 then 2) using trunk
16:51.14 brlcad please write this all down if you're not going to remember....
16:52.18 brlcad please ask questions, encourage you to, but having to repeat the exact same info would get very frustrating ;)
16:52.25 brlcad sounds good?
16:52.34 kesha sounds great :)
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19:42.08 whyesse brlcad: ok I tried making a version of nmg_extrude_face that returns the new faceuse it created, and then calling it twice
19:42.55 whyesse brlcad: then converted an extrude to stl. looks like the face got made in the right place, but the edges are hooked up wrong
20:31.49 ``Erik there's a src/conv/Formats.csv that is probably way out of date, but is a quick view of importers and exporters
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22:14.43 FLOSSrookie Just how does BASIC fit in in the open source community? Or is it mainly a hobby language anymore?
22:14.44 FLOSSrookie In order to become proficient with brlcad will I need to learn Tcl?
22:19.35 FLOSSrookie I continually get berated on the Internet every time people discover that Tcl is on my to-do list. And it is only there because I thought it might be useful with brlcad.
22:21.15 FLOSSrookie Hurry before this junk AT&T connection goes down.
22:50.22 ``Erik BASIC doesn't fit any more, it's mostly a historic artifact... tcl is "mostly obsolete" by most OSS weenies standards
22:54.14 FLOSSrookie ``Erik: I apologize, I do not know how I accidentally pasted that first line. That was for the freebasic forum. I am so sorry.
22:54.14 FLOSSrookie ``Erik: My main question was those last three lines.
22:54.14 FLOSSrookie So would it be wise to learn Tcl for use with brlcad?
22:57.28 FLOSSrookie I do not want to learn too many languages. Especially learning one just to work with one program which then may not be used elsewhere.
23:08.16 FLOSSrookie Just how is Tcl used in brlcad anyway? Is it just the mged window or can Tcl be used for scripting things inside brlcad?
23:14.05 FLOSSrookie Anyone?
23:28.31 mpictor FLOSSrookie: if you google "brl-cad scripting", you'll get some results. Looks like perl is more popular
23:29.03 mpictor also, you might want to ask on a weekday - more people are active then
23:31.41 FLOSSrookie mpictor: So any scripting language can be used, right?
23:32.06 FLOSSrookie "in classic console mode without a GUI, which is perfect for scripting from most any language including Perl." http://brlcad.org/wiki/Spiral
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