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01:00.30 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to...
01:00.40 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task to...
01:00.41 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo: Scalable? - Same as said before: It should be scalable. Look at the magnifying glass example at the css-tricks website to get an...
01:00.45 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo: Scalable? - Same as said before: It should be scalable. Look at the magnifying glass example at the css-tricks website to get an...
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01:31.11 Notify 03GCI:Andrew * Implement a centroid function for right hyperbolic cylinders (RHC): Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
02:19.08 Notify 03GCI:Daniel Rossberg * Implement a centroid function for right hyperbolic cylinders (RHC): Not bad - I havn't teted it yet but it looks not bad. However, first you need to fix some coding style...
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04:29.09 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo #2: good for the task - Yatharth, Nice work. This is good enough to close the task, but more work will be needed to actually use this. Here...
04:29.15 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo #2: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
04:34.44 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Design BRL-CAD sticker: i like it - Nicely done, I like the end result. The only issue I saw remaining is the black link is "lumpy". The two red ones are nice circles, but the black...
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04:34.50 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Design BRL-CAD sticker: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
04:37.59 Notify 03GCI:Sam * Create a web based interactive timeline giving historical tour of BRL-CAD: Question - Hi Sean, it would be great if I could receive a reply as soon as possible so that I can work on...
04:42.19 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #2: peculiar design - Oleg, Per our project guidelines, our official name is "BRL-CAD" and it's to be treated as a proper noun. Your design emphasizes our...
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04:42.59 Notify 03GCI:Sharan * Model a toy car with wheels and axles in BRL-CAD: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
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04:57.10 Notify 03GCI:Mandeep Kaur * Model a toy car with wheels and axles in BRL-CAD: Task Assigned - This task has been assigned to Sharan. You have 72 hours to complete this task, good luck!
05:00.30 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Write article on BRL-CAD's code hardening efforts: too long - Tan, the article is actually too long. It needs to be a much more succinct summary, less than half the length you...
05:00.31 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Write article on BRL-CAD's code hardening efforts: too long - Tan, the article is actually too long. It needs to be a much more succinct summary, less than half the length you...
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05:17.15 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #2: effort? - Pulkit, the amount of effort involved in your design is rather lacking. It looks like...
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05:29.22 Notify 03GCI:Sharan * Model a toy car with wheels and axles in BRL-CAD: made it - I have made it but it does not look good because of the word TOY in the car I will upload the work as soon as possible.
05:31.17 Notify 03GCI:Johannes Schulte * Implement a volume function for triangle meshes (BOT): Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
05:31.47 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Create a book layout for Doc Camp Book: Deep Inder Singh - I really wanted to claim this task, but it wasn't possible because Sean ahdn't approved of my previous task. If...
05:32.13 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Theiceman458 * 6325 /wiki/Community_Publication_Portal: /* Tan YuGin: BRL-CAD's Code Hardening Efforts */ Shortened the article substantially.
05:33.08 Notify 03GCI:YuGin * Write article on BRL-CAD's code hardening efforts: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
05:35.58 Notify 03GCI:YuGin * Write article on BRL-CAD's code hardening efforts: Resubmitted - Hi Sean, I originally wrote the article to such a length because the task description stipulated a maximum of 900...
05:36.33 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Write an article soliciting a Windows platform maintainer: tighten - Alex, this is looking good, but can you tighten it up a little bit. You repeat your points a little bit in the...
05:36.38 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Write an article soliciting a Windows platform maintainer: tighten - Alex, this is looking good, but can you tighten it up a little bit. You repeat your points a little bit in the...
05:36.39 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Write an article soliciting a Windows platform maintainer: Task Needs More Work - One of the mentors has sent this task back for more work. Talk to the mentor(s) assigned to this task...
05:36.48 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Write an article soliciting a Windows platform maintainer: Deadline extended - The deadline of the task has been extended with 1 days and 0 hours.
05:38.03 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Create a CSS only version of BRL-CAD Logo #2: Follow-up Task - I would be interested, but I don't think I can solve these issues:- you mentioned there are still small...
05:38.24 YatharthROCK brlcad: Isn't there already another version of this task? <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5081237563637760>
05:38.54 YatharthROCK GCIBot needs to learn to capture links within angle brackets.
05:48.28 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents): Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
05:52.57 YatharthROCK Is there any mentor online? brlcad mandeep
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06:12.00 Notify 03GCI:Sharan * Model a toy car with wheels and axles in BRL-CAD: Incomplete - this has overlaps when doing rtcheck So please give me suggestions to improve it more.... I also haven't joined the...
06:18.24 Notify 03GCI:Sean * Create a CAD inspired icon-set for BRL-CAD website: describe - Luke, what can you tell me about your icon set? Why'd you pick those particular icons vs so many possibilities?
06:26.00 Notify 03GCI:Mandeep Kaur * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents): Task Assigned - This task has been assigned to Yatharth Agarwal. You...
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07:37.03 Notify 03GCI:Sharan * Model a toy car with wheels and axles in BRL-CAD: Overlapps - I removed all the overlapps rtcheck isnt giving any overlapps now.. Any suggestions for joining the O in the toy with...
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07:59.31 YatharthROCK I really need to talk to a mentor regarding my task... brlcad mandeep https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264
08:32.29 YatharthROCK starseeker: You there?
08:35.45 YatharthROCK What you, ``Erik?
08:40.51 Notify 03GCI:Alexandra Covor * Design BRL-CAD phone/tablet back cover: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
08:40.56 Notify 03GCI:Alexandra Covor * Design BRL-CAD phone/tablet back cover: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
09:23.53 Notify 03GCI:Harmanpreet * Design BRL-CAD phone/tablet back cover: Need more work - Hi Covor, This is good start by we expect a more creative design. You changed BRL-CAD logo (put eyes in logo) that is...
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10:24.15 Notify 03GCI:Pulkit Mehta * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #2: None - No Problem sir i will try again actually that BRL-CAD was just for a sample....
11:46.37 YatharthROCK I really need to talk to a mentor regarding my task... brlcad mandeep starseeker https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264
11:49.38 ``Erik !notify ask
11:49.39 Notify Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
11:54.38 YatharthROCK ``Erik: Sorry. Any in this task: <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264>
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11:54.46 YatharthROCK I'm not really sure what is being asked.
11:55.35 YatharthROCK I think I just have so whip out a few command-line utilities to replace "<imageobject> <imagedata align="center" fileref="../../lessons/en/images/img.png" format="PNG"/> </imageobject>" with "<imageobject role="html"> <imagedata align="center" fileref="../../books/en/images/img.png" format="PNG"/> </imageobject> <imageobject role="fo"> <imagedata align="center" fileref="../../books/en/images/img.png" format="PNG"/> </
11:55.59 YatharthROCK What's the hard part in that? It's just itarating over the files and doing a regex replace.
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12:02.45 ``Erik that might be all there is, it looks like every image should have both 'html' and 'fo' roles (I'm guessing for quality differences down the road... 72dpi vs 300dpi, etc)... looks like brlcad added it so he'd be the best to verify that, starseeker may have good input as well
12:02.49 ``Erik doh
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12:07.34 tbrowder2 Ref this task: <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264>, the intent IS to prepare for the next step which is to apply separate formatting for html versus pdf, so it would be helpful to keep the new code in the same format as the old so the two blocks can be compared easily vertically by eye, i.e., watch to preserve spacing with any regex replace. So, e.g.
12:12.54 YatharthROCK tbrowder2: So I just do the regex replace and I'm done?
12:16.29 tbrowder2 Yes, as long as "make doc" shows valid code (if I were checking it, I would check the patches looking for the format as in the task description).
12:17.17 ``Erik 07:02 <``Erik> that might be all there is, it looks like every image should have both 'html' and 'fo' roles (I'm guessing for quality differences down the road... 72dpi vs 300dpi, etc)... looks like brlcad added it so he'd be the best to verify that, starseeker may have good input as well
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12:23.31 YatharthROCK tbrowder2: Whether I modified files or not, 'make doc' just says 'nothing to be done'
12:43.16 tbrowder2 Are you using the setup in the VM?
12:44.24 starseeker YatharthROCK: if you whip up a tool to do the replacements correctly, that would be an awesome way to complete the task!
12:45.31 YatharthROCK starseeker: Du-oh! Did you think I'd do it manually?
12:45.43 starseeker some people would
12:45.49 starseeker either way, so long as it gets done!
12:45.58 YatharthROCK How about a follow-up task asking for the tool, and this task just asking for 4 documents? ;)
12:46.06 YatharthROCK Pleease...
12:46.09 starseeker heh - sure
12:46.52 starseeker YatharthROCK: are you set up to compile? (i.e. did you do the build steps for CMake configuring?)
12:47.31 YatharthROCK starseeker: No. I downloaded the source, but installed from the deb.
12:47.40 YatharthROCK I dunno how to build it.
12:47.47 starseeker YatharthROCK: one thing about automated tools - you want to make very sure it changed only what you intended
12:47.51 starseeker YatharthROCK: that's why
12:48.01 starseeker go to the soure directory and do the following:
12:48.06 starseeker mkdir build
12:48.07 starseeker cd build
12:48.13 starseeker cmake ..
12:48.43 starseeker if you don't have CMake, you may need to install that from your distro's package archive
12:49.35 YatharthROCK I had to do this last year, so i have that :
12:49.38 YatharthROCK It's building.
12:51.03 starseeker OK, so once it's built you should see it re-building as you make changes to the xml files
12:51.22 YatharthROCK starseeker: Ohhh... till now I was using 'make' for some stupid reason.
12:51.33 starseeker you use make to actually build
12:51.35 YatharthROCK No wonder it was showing me that stupid error.
12:51.40 starseeker but you need to run cmake first
12:51.43 YatharthROCK Wait, what?
12:51.45 YatharthROCK Ohh...
12:52.01 starseeker make didn't have any Makefiles to tell it what to do, because CMake generates them
12:52.22 YatharthROCK I foud cmake using apropos. Reading the man page, I though it made the CMakeLists files for make to use.
12:52.41 YatharthROCK Oh, you just typed that before me.
12:52.53 starseeker so the error "nothing to be done" was because there were no Makefiles - if you run make in a totally empty directory, you'll see the same error
12:52.53 YatharthROCK starseeker: So will i have to run make after this
12:52.57 starseeker yep
12:53.12 YatharthROCK Will it take a sh*t-load of time?
12:53.22 YatharthROCK I don't exactly have top-notch hardware.
12:53.31 starseeker since you are focused on the docbook, I'd suggest changing directories into build/doc/docbook
12:53.45 starseeker then type "make" and it'll build just the documentation
12:53.58 starseeker and whatever tools it needs to generate it
12:54.03 YatharthROCK Uhh... you mean ./doc/docbook/build right
12:54.04 YatharthROCK ?
12:54.07 starseeker nope
12:54.15 starseeker let's say your source is in /home/user/brlcad
12:54.31 starseeker you should have made a directory "build" at /home/user/brlcad/build/
12:54.45 starseeker then cd /home/user/brlcad/build && cmake ..
12:54.50 starseeker that's what's running initially
12:55.02 starseeker once that's done, you cd into /home/user/brlcad/build/doc/docbook/
12:55.19 starseeker that's where the Makefiles specific to DocBook have been placed
12:56.11 YatharthROCK Oh, OK. 10x
12:56.18 YatharthROCK And how do you do a SVN diff?
12:56.34 YatharthROCK Why don't you guys use git? Historical reasons?
12:56.49 starseeker from the directory /home/user/brlcad run the command 'svn diff'
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12:56.59 starseeker that'll show you what has been changed.
12:57.22 YatharthROCK So redirect it to a file and upload?
12:57.25 starseeker I usually pipe that into a patch file: svn diff > /home/user/brlcad_doc_changes.patch
12:57.30 starseeker er, yeah
12:58.21 starseeker lot of reasons - we stick to a centralized development model
12:58.33 starseeker svn is very good for that scenario
12:59.06 starseeker everyone has to stay up with the latest changes, rather than working in isolation
12:59.18 starseeker which we view as a Good Thing
12:59.48 starseeker open source software is a collaborative process, but lots of times people prefer to go off into their own corner and work until their piece is "done"
13:00.37 starseeker we try to encourage people to interact with the community as part of the development process - faster learning, easier integration of work, can help to avoid pursuit of "blind alleys"
13:02.01 starseeker YatharthROCK: if you are comfortable with DocBook, would you be interested in other "follow-on" DocBook tasks? The image command updating is just the first step - after that, we need to get the images correctly sized and positioned
13:03.52 starseeker that'll require having Apache FOP installed and working (I believe there is an 'fop' package for most of the Debian based distros)
13:04.25 starseeker OK, I gotta run - thanks YatharthROCK for your work on this task!
13:04.44 YatharthROCK starseeker: I dunno about the image one,
13:04.47 YatharthROCK kk bye
13:04.57 YatharthROCK What about the follow-up task for a sciprt to this task?
13:05.12 YatharthROCK starseeker: The one that asks for the script, not just the files.
13:05.43 starseeker YatharthROCK: I think that sounds reasonable, if you do in fact have a script that can do the update for *all* the xml files and change only what you're intending to change
13:06.04 YatharthROCK starseeker: Uhhh... 'python script' belongs to 'script', right?
13:06.14 starseeker is wary of unintended consequences with regex expressions and xml files ;-)
13:06.17 starseeker YatharthROCK: sure
13:06.35 starseeker YatharthROCK: this is a "one time" change, ideally, since new documents should adhere to the new standard
13:06.45 YatharthROCK I use grep using os.popen and pretty constrained re, so it should be OK.
13:06.52 YatharthROCK starseeker: 10x a lot :D
13:06.58 YatharthROCK How will you keep me updated?
13:07.24 starseeker the task would be "create a script that automatically updates all image tags to the html+fo" format - I'll try to define such a task quickly
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13:10.50 Notify 03GCI:Sharan * Model a toy car with wheels and axles in BRL-CAD: New Pair of wheels - I just went to your site and found that MGED had a tire function built into into it
13:13.57 starseeker YatharthROCK: I tried to submit a task for the script - keep an eye out for it appearing on the list
13:14.19 YatharthROCK starseeker: Will Notify tell me?
13:14.39 starseeker I don't think it will - you may have to watch the task list itself
13:14.50 YatharthROCK starseeker: If you're not out of time, could you review this task? <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264>
13:15.06 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents): Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
13:15.08 YatharthROCK starseeker: What's the other task's title?
13:15.10 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents): Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
13:15.38 starseeker the title I suggested was: "Write a script to complete all DocBook image tag updates"
13:15.51 YatharthROCK starseeker: What happens if I interrupt a make build in between?
13:16.09 starseeker just type make again and it should resume where it left off
13:16.29 YatharthROCK starseeker: Really? Ctrl-C, then run it again?
13:16.36 YatharthROCK That's so cool...
13:16.54 starseeker YatharthROCK: can you add a couple more files to your patch?
13:17.14 YatharthROCK starseeker: kk, wait
13:20.52 YatharthROCK starseeker: I modified the 4 files with the most occurrences of mediaobject that weren't already modified. Enough?
13:21.00 starseeker YatharthROCK: yes
13:21.28 YatharthROCK https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264
13:21.40 YatharthROCK I miss GCIBot.
13:22.13 starseeker YatharthROCK: mged15 was already updated by an earlier task
13:22.28 starseeker did you do "svn update" in your tree?
13:23.23 YatharthROCK No.
13:23.38 starseeker ah - yeah, make sure you do that periodically so you see what has already been done
13:23.52 starseeker 4 of the lesson files have been updated
13:23.55 YatharthROCK Please tell me I won't have to resolve merge conflicts.
13:24.17 starseeker just svn revert doc/docbook/lessons/en/mged15_creating_a_toy_truck.xml
13:24.24 starseeker then do svn update
13:24.30 YatharthROCK I already did.
13:24.36 YatharthROCK Now its asking me how to resolve it.
13:24.43 starseeker "theirs full"
13:24.45 starseeker tf
13:25.05 YatharthROCK It's saying tc
13:25.09 YatharthROCK Oh, for all of them
13:25.30 starseeker you're wiping out your local changes and applying theirs
13:26.01 YatharthROCK starseeker: Uploaded the updated patch file.
13:26.22 starseeker that's the three article files?
13:26.31 starseeker can you update one more of those to make 4?
13:26.37 YatharthROCK <facepalm> OK.
13:27.08 ``Erik can also do an 'svn revert -R .' to get back to an 'unmodified' checkout, so an update should work without conflict (but local changes will be tossed out)
13:27.11 YatharthROCK Dammit, I lost the regex I was using.
13:27.23 starseeker YatharthROCK: I've *really* got to go
13:27.26 ``Erik if there is a good reason to use git, we have a read only git repo
13:27.30 starseeker ``Erik: can you take him the rest of the way?
13:27.41 starseeker YatharthROCK: thanks for the great work!
13:27.45 YatharthROCK starseeker: Please just accept it. It said 1 large or 4 small.
13:27.49 ``Erik starseeker: I can try, but I'm not big on the docbook stuff :)
13:28.31 starseeker YatharthROCK: OK, I guess that'll do :-)
13:28.42 YatharthROCK :D
13:29.04 Notify 03GCI:starseeker * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents): Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
13:29.07 starseeker YatharthROCK: keep up the good work!
13:29.15 ``Erik I think the '1 large or 4 small' was intended to limit the scope for people doing it by hand... if your script can bash it all out in one whack, why not?
13:29.26 starseeker ``Erik: that's why he wants a script task
13:29.27 YatharthROCK starseeker: Will the new task be there by now?
13:29.36 starseeker I tried to submit one via that form, but I don't see it yet
13:30.15 YatharthROCK starseeker: Not for long :/ I have my ISEEs, SSATs and TOEFLs coming up, as well as an MUN and school exams. All in the same 30 days along with GCi which I'd been waiting a year for to ace.
13:30.29 ``Erik 'that form' being the google doc one? I think sean has to manually export, import it to melange, resolve the conflicts, and manually add it to the wiki... centralized, but not automated?
13:30.34 YatharthROCK I'll have to stop after some tasks this year too.
13:30.35 starseeker bah
13:31.04 starseeker YatharthROCK: tell you what - grab one of the other DocBook tasks for this work, and use that to submit the script
13:31.12 YatharthROCK ``Erik: Nooo... Sean comes online when it's night for me. I won't be able to claim it.
13:31.24 starseeker https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5007157967716352
13:31.30 YatharthROCK starseeker: There are many tasks like that?
13:31.31 ``Erik starseeker, get the fuck out of here
13:31.32 starseeker use that one
13:31.40 YatharthROCK Why didn't you guys just ask for the script before-hand?
13:31.46 YatharthROCK Oh right, one-time stuff.
13:31.52 YatharthROCK Still, you could've told them to modify all the files.
13:32.12 starseeker YatharthROCK: use that last open task for the script
13:32.15 ``Erik YatharthROCK: if you're down with git, you can always make a github project for holding it and toss it in there... then when you're jobseeking and someone checks your github profile, you have this gem of usefulness :)
13:32.17 starseeker ``Erik: heh, k - later all
13:32.27 YatharthROCK starseeker: You told me half an hour ago that you *really8 needed to go. You should better do that. 10x for everything :D
13:33.20 YatharthROCK ``Erik: Why would anyone value a simple script that does a regex replace all on all files in a directory that contain that string?
13:33.55 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents) #2: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
13:33.58 ``Erik YatharthROCK: because it solves a very real problem, and there are a lot of "developers" and "software engineers" who couldn't manage it and would do it by hand
13:34.00 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents) #2: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
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13:34.35 ``Erik that you thought to script it instead of manually doing it already puts you above the median
13:35.01 Notify 03GCI:Gauravjeet Singh * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents) #2: Task Assigned - This task has been assigned to Yatharth Agarwal....
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13:35.46 YatharthROCK ``Erik: Uhh... right. What exactly do those poor sods *do* in their job then?
13:36.23 ``Erik piss off those of us that are competent *cough* I mean, um, slog crap code that satisfies mgmt
13:37.45 ``Erik people who are good enough and care enough to do scripts and code for fun are already "rock stars" in the greater scheme of things, srry :)
13:40.09 YatharthROCK How come BRL-CAD got open-sources BTW? And does the US army still use it?
13:42.31 ``Erik the BRL-CAD developers are open source weenies. it's always has the source code distributed, but there was a multi-year effort by the coders to make it unhindered (when I first heard of it, you had to fill out a form and agreement to fax to the army and they'd send you an encrypted tarball and the key).
13:43.51 ``Erik the army research lab still uses it, it's the geometry interrogation engine for the simulations to test new armor and weapons, um, https://www.arl.army.mil/slad/ is mostly built ontop of librt down in the guts
13:47.15 ``Erik (if you have some time to waste and want to see how bad the worst of the worst is, http://thedailywtf.com is an amusing blog of horror stories :)
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14:07.49 YatharthROCK ``Erik: Definitely lives up to its name.
14:08.15 YatharthROCK and what do you mean exactly by 'open source weenies'? Like they whined for it or against it?
14:10.16 ``Erik we like open source... a lot
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14:13.53 YatharthROCK :D
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14:15.50 YatharthROCK ``Erik: I'll see if we can get starseeker's submitted task past Sean. Could you review this task till then? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5007157967716352
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14:17.18 YatharthROCK gjeet: You there?
14:17.27 gjeet yes
14:17.39 YatharthROCK Could you review my task? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5007157967716352
14:17.47 YatharthROCK You assigned it to me.
14:20.58 YatharthROCK gjeet:
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14:22.36 gjeet YatharthROCK: wait, I am reviewing some other task, after that I will review this one
14:22.51 YatharthROCK gjeet: kk, no prob. 10x :)
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14:32.54 YatharthROCK Can someone explain to me how exactly the Google Charts wrapper is supposed to behave? <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696>
14:33.53 YatharthROCK ``Erik: Are you like a ChanOp or something? You show up at the top of the user list...
14:34.04 YatharthROCK Oh, the backticks must be sorted first...
14:37.29 YatharthROCK Is any mentor here who can review my task? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696
14:37.42 YatharthROCK brlcad: Are you there?
14:51.55 Notify 03GCI:Pulkit Mehta * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #2: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
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15:05.19 YatharthROCK starseeker: You back?
15:05.50 Notify 03GCI:Pulkit Mehta * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #2: None - sir, i hope you like it this time.
15:07.38 brlcad YatharthROCK: same as last year
15:07.40 brlcad ~ask
15:07.40 infobot Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will.
15:08.00 brlcad if you can't wait, then you shouldn't be using irc here
15:08.43 YatharthROCK brlcad: Well, it's not a question, is it? More like a request. I'm sorry, I'll try be more patient now.
15:08.48 brlcad tasks are reviewed in a queue, not based on who asks the most
15:09.12 YatharthROCK LOL, sorry again.
15:09.18 YatharthROCK BTW, for this task: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696
15:09.30 YatharthROCK What exactly is the GCharts code supposed to do?
15:09.32 brlcad that means it's important to make sure you ask useful questions that don't require going back and forth several times, each time you get back in line
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15:09.41 YatharthROCK As in, why can't it just return a PNG?
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15:10.54 YatharthROCK brlcad: You mean get all the possible required info from before only so you don't have to be told to fix your submission later?
15:11.25 brlcad YatharthROCK: no, not at all
15:11.56 MartinHermida brlcad: Could I use some SVG just to draw the interconnecting portions directly written in the HTML? I mean: the SVG code, not an image itself
15:11.57 brlcad I mean be careful about what questions you ask and how you ask them
15:12.10 YatharthROCK brlcad: And whaddaya' mean, same as last year? You actually remember me doing that last year too? (I really need to learn after just being told once...)
15:12.16 brlcad some questions that are much more easily answered than others
15:12.32 brlcad YatharthROCK: yes, last year you failed the "~ask" many time
15:12.39 YatharthROCK :$
15:12.48 brlcad stop asking if people are here, just ask your question and be on irc for a response
15:12.55 brlcad which may be seconds or hours later
15:13.26 brlcad pretty much all irc tools have tools to help you keep track of discussions directed at you even if it's a really busy channel
15:13.40 brlcad e.g., /last YatharthROCK
15:13.48 YatharthROCK And this channel has logs too, so i won't miss out even when I'm gone.
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15:14.52 YatharthROCK '/last YatharthROCK' doesn't do anything for me. Is a client-specific thing? My client is pretty primitive.
15:16.07 YatharthROCK Could you tell me what exactly is expected in this task? I want to work on it after my current one is reviewed. <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696>
15:16.34 MartinHermida brlcad: I'd also like to know if scaling the CSS logo using "transform:scale();" will be right
15:16.37 brlcad except we won't answer questions for people that are not here
15:16.39 YatharthROCK I won't fail ~ask again, brlcad.
15:16.43 brlcad so logs aren't helpful there
15:17.07 brlcad and yes, /last was just an example -- every client is a little different
15:17.18 brlcad (learn your client's features being the suggestion)
15:17.41 Notify 03GCI:Tan Di Sheng * Design a coffee mug for BRL-CAD: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed.
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15:18.22 YatharthROCK My client is built on Chrome's API and doesn't do much, but I get the drift.
15:18.24 YatharthROCK brlcad: Also, did you see starseeker's task proposal to write a script to format all the image tags?
15:18.33 brlcad by the way -- "what exactly is expected" is not a good question, if it's unclear to you state what you do understand of the task and what you do not understand
15:18.46 brlcad that said, that task is not written very well, it should be more clear
15:19.18 brlcad so I suggest putting a comment there for the task's author and/or the benefit of others to clarify the deliverable(s)
15:20.03 brlcad MartinHermida: I don't know if that will be right, but I know a great way to find out (try it)
15:20.53 brlcad YatharthROCK: at a glance, that task says that code wraps gchart and gchart has changed, so assumedly the task is to update it to the new gcharts API
15:21.17 brlcad or as it states, use the new API "more optimally" than it currently does
15:21.23 MartinHermida brlcad: Don't you know if will be right scaling it that way, writing SVG directly in HTML or borth?
15:21.42 MartinHermida brlcad: both*
15:21.51 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Loading Google charts from API: Clarification on the deliverables - Could you state what exactly is required of the code? Is it supposed to entirely follow the specs of...
15:21.56 Notify 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Loading Google charts from API: Clarification on the deliverables - Could you state what exactly is required of the code? Is it supposed to entirely follow the specs of...
15:22.13 YatharthROCK brlcad: Yeah. That API will be deprecated by 2015, I think.
15:22.15 brlcad MartinHermida: I am not familiar with the particulars of that task, but you could ask that question as a comment to the task
15:22.24 brlcad YatharthROCK: so then .. what's unclear?
15:23.07 YatharthROCK Why don't you just use a library? Googling for 'google charts python' gave lots of comprehensive and easy-to-use libraries with minimal dependencies.
15:23.39 ishwerdas hi MartinHermida
15:24.08 YatharthROCK I just want to know, can we return the chart as a finished PNG?
15:24.10 MartinHermida ishwerdas: hi
15:24.27 ishwerdas MartinHermida: can you give me a link to your task
15:24.41 MartinHermida Here it is: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664
15:24.42 ishwerdas MartinHermida: so that i can see what you have done till now
15:24.49 YatharthROCK That way, I just have to write some middle-man code between BRLCAD and the library and it'll be done.
15:25.06 ishwerdas MartinHermida: will get back to you soon in a minute :)
15:25.30 Notify 03GCI:Harmanpreet * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #2: Need to be Impressive - It looks you put your effort but design still lacks creativity...
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15:25.37 YatharthROCK The only problem being of dependencies.
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15:29.08 YatharthROCK brlcad: Also, did you see starseeker 's task proposal to write a script to format all the image tags?
15:32.38 ishwerdas MartinHermida: what we mean by scaling is that when we increase the size of the container the logo would be able to scale itself
15:33.38 ishwerdas MartinHermida: making it somewhat responsive probably by using fluid widths, can you do that?
15:33.51 ishwerdas MartinHermida: percentage in widths and heights
15:36.19 MartinHermida ishwerdas: I'll try, but if I can't do it that way will it be right scaling it with the CSS property 'transform:scale();'
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15:40.25 brlcad YatharthROCK: whats the current output of that class? if it ultimately is used to get a png, then you probably could just return an image
15:40.46 brlcad you'll have to look at the callers of that class
15:40.46 Notify 03GCI:Alex * Write an article soliciting a Windows platform maintainer: Will improve - Ok thanks for the feedback i will make sure i improve on what you said
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15:42.51 brlcad and again, asking me if i saw something isn't very useful -- ask what you're intending to ask in followup
15:43.47 ishwerdas MartinHermida: Yes, but then you would have to add slight javascript so that it checks the width and height of the container div and whenever browser is resized, it scales accordingly.
15:45.02 MartinHermida ishwerdas: By using transform:scale(); I think I won't have to use javascript
15:45.21 MartinHermida ishwerdas: it's a CSS property
15:48.05 ishwerdas MartinHermida: Yes, you can also use media queries to have that effect, what I want to say is firstly try it without transform scale, I am sure you will be able to do that.
15:48.47 ishwerdas MartinHermida: Also, I guess transform:scale() has limited browser support for only webkit browsers (if I am not wrong)
15:49.13 Notify 03GCI:ISRanjith * Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #3: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
15:49.18 Notify 03GCI:ISRanjith * Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #3: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
15:50.22 MartinHermida ishwerdas: It also works on firefox. OK, I'll try doing it with CSS, SVG and JS
15:51.02 ishwerdas MartinHermida: SVG for what?
15:52.30 YatharthROCK brlcad: It returns some HTML and embedded JS code. I now see why: it makes for higher-resolution, faster, possibly-interactive and expected code.
15:52.37 MartinHermida ishwerdas: For the 'bridges' between the two white circles in the pink shape
15:53.20 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: the pt function tests are taking ~3hrs for half of them due to the necessity of coming up with test cases
15:53.29 YatharthROCK MartinHermida: It is possible to approximate it with only CSS,
15:53.47 ishwerdas MartinHermida: you can do it without SVG and only CSS, can't you?
15:54.00 brlcad tbrowder2: greetings
15:54.31 brlcad tbrowder2: it's not acceptable, but I don't see what you spoke of in my immediate lot -- checking further back but feel free to PM me any names involved
15:54.37 brlcad s/lot/log/
15:55.19 brlcad andromeda-galaxy: thanks for the feedback
15:55.26 MartinHermida ishwerdas: I'll try to improve the 'connection' between, because brlcad told me it has to be smother
15:55.42 brlcad that's pretty good then -- basically if you had to write it again, you'd probably easily come in under 2 hours
15:56.01 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: can we break this one into two tasks? since the first half has taken so long?
15:56.06 brlcad heh, don't smother me!
15:56.08 ishwerdas MartinHermida: It can be done only with CSS, our last claimant 'binaryking' was able to do that, he just quit before he could make it responsive. He didn't upload that file on melange, but he shared it on IRC, and it was smooth :)
15:56.10 brlcad smoother would be good though
15:56.22 YatharthROCK brlcad: 'Have you seen it?' -> 'What do you think of it'? -> 'Is the task going to be added to the list?' -> 'I had written some code for it already while completing another task. Will the task be added?'
15:56.57 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: The problem is that coming up with the testcases takes a certain amount of time, even when familiar with the code, because you have to make sure that you can actually put the right results in your testcases
15:57.13 YatharthROCK ishwerdas: 'smooth' in which sense? No discontinuities?
15:57.14 Notify 03GCI:Alec * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #3: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
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15:57.42 MartinHermida Sorry brlcad, I meant 'smoother', forgive me :)
15:57.55 brlcad YatharthROCK: now you're getting it .. those first questions are pretty much irrelevant -- you just want to know if/when it'll be added, to which I can easily say "yes, it'll be added soon -- new tasks are processed throughout the day most days"
15:58.04 Notify 03GCI:Harmanpreet * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #3: Task Assigned - This task has been assigned to Alec. You have 72 hours to complete this...
15:58.14 brlcad MartinHermida: I know, just play on words with the spelling error
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15:58.25 Notify 03GCI:ISRanjith * Design a BRL-CAD Sticker #3: Where is the upload button? - I can't find the upload button please help.
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15:58.57 ishwerdas YatharthROCK: yes no space between various sub-modules and also the curves in the bridge between the various subparts need to be good (which binary king was able to do with a bit of assistance)
15:59.56 brlcad binaryking's was off a little bit too, but some mentor let it pass
16:00.40 YatharthROCK Even mine... :$
16:01.41 ishwerdas brlcad: Yes, but here at IRC he had a good amount of chat with me and during that he was able to improve, he also shared a screenshot of the results which were just what I wanted in the task (while I was writing it)
16:01.43 YatharthROCK BTW I found the fix to the transparency problem: use a negative border-radius for the bridge using CSS3 gradients!!
16:02.04 ishwerdas YathartROCK: exactly!
16:02.37 ishwerdas YatarthROCK: can you share a screenshot of your best output here?
16:03.00 YatharthROCK ishwerdas: I didn't implement the negative border radius thing.
16:03.09 andromeda-galaxy brlcad: I can give you bn_3pts_collinear through bn_distsq_pt3_lseg3_v2 right now (the first half)
16:03.31 ishwerdas YatharthROCK: Ok :)
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16:07.42 YatharthROCK ishwerdas: Here it is: <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60644193/BRL-CAD.png>
16:08.29 brlcad needs a dash, BRL-CAD
16:08.36 brlcad official has it
16:08.43 brlcad contest image did not
16:09.44 brlcad slight discontinuity on the links (at least the top red, bottom connection)
16:09.45 YatharthROCK brlcad: I guess so. There was this URL on the BRL-CAD site containing '*/angelov*.png'
16:09.56 brlcad yep, that's the contest image
16:10.08 brlcad you wouldn't have known (now you do) :)
16:11.02 YatharthROCK Did the other submission support transparent backgrounds?
16:11.30 YatharthROCK Oh yeah, I remember seeing a link to creating fake in-bevels on the task page.
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16:23.34 kanzure "Mikhail Kazakov from OpenCascade SAS just announced at the Salome User's Day that next OCCT version will be LGPL"
16:37.29 Notify 03GCI:Mandeep Kaur * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #4: Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully.
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16:37.35 Notify 03GCI:Mandeep Kaur * Design a cover image or banner for our Facebook page (and other social media sites) #4: Good Work - Ethan you did good work and this design looks nice.
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18:11.52 MartinHermida I've just finished the CSS logo but the only way to make the separation between the pink and black things is with a circle with a JS script to make it change the color matching the container div's one. Will it be right making it that way? Thanks
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18:40.19 MartinHermida Maybe I'll need more time in my task, please, could you extend the time if the task is not right? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664
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20:58.18 maths22 For http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5597236545191936
20:58.29 maths22 I have completed transcription of table 2
21:03.36 MartinHermida brlcad: Fixed the "bridge", now it's quite smooth, and scaling: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664
21:03.41 maths22 Also, is there any documentation of the Com-Geom type itselft?
21:04.11 starseeker maths22: um. I think the GIFT reports might have something...
21:04.46 maths22 just so you know, after I had run it through ocr, table 2 (I think the easiest) took about an hour
21:05.01 maths22 Thank you
21:05.10 starseeker nods - yeah, it's tedious
21:05.29 starseeker maths22: give me a second, I'm checking the GIFT stuff...
21:06.06 starseeker maths22: could we write a script or something to help? (like, say, converting five characters consisting of either 0 or O to all 0?)
21:07.59 starseeker maths22: try this - http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADB006037
21:09.27 starseeker maths22: if we need to scope the tasks to parts of the PDF file, that's fine too
21:10.03 maths22 Does brlcad do anything with the names themselves, or do they not matter?
21:11.04 starseeker which names?
21:11.24 maths22 The comments/remarks fields
21:12.03 maths22 I also cannot figure out a relationship between table 3 and the document's Reigion idendification information
21:12.46 maths22 Sorry about the bad spelling-typing with one hand does that
21:13.28 starseeker the Region Identification information being table 4?
21:14.43 starseeker maths22: the tool that we'll be using to import these is comgeom-g
21:15.22 Notify 03GCI:alebcay * Create a graphical mock-up for BRL-CAD's Blog: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task.
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21:16.23 starseeker maths22: for the transcription tasks, even a literal ascii text transcription of the report would be fine - if we need to, we can make subsequent tasks to assemble "valid" comgeom files
21:19.18 maths22 ok
21:19.26 maths22 Would an excel/csv file work?
21:19.39 starseeker maths22: in my opinion, it's worth preserving the contents of the REMARKS column - it won't (currently) be reflected in the object names, but the converter should preserve it as an attribute even if it isn't doing it now
21:20.03 starseeker I'd go with csv - excel is a commercial format - but that's a fine place to start
21:20.21 maths22 OK
21:20.59 starseeker maths22: and yes, it's expected that the solids table will take more time due to the density of the numerical information
21:21.27 starseeker if you want to do your work in excel and then export CSV, that's fine
21:22.00 starseeker or gnumeric, or libreoffice - whatever you prefer ;-)
21:23.17 starseeker you might even be able to get acrobat reader to spit out a text file you could import into the spreadsheet as a starting point...
21:24.41 maths22 I am using an ocr file to start
21:24.50 starseeker cool
21:26.02 maths22 Does table 2 actually have the descr in the final file
21:26.41 starseeker you mean the remarks column in table 2?
21:26.55 maths22 yes
21:27.09 starseeker I'm not sure if comgeom-g currently preserves them, but if it doesn't it should
21:27.18 maths22 .
21:27.20 maths22 [4~
21:28.32 starseeker maths22: once we have this file transcribed properly, it's slated to become a test file for the comgeom-g importer
21:29.12 MartinHermida starseeker: Could you review my task?: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664
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21:31.15 MartinHermida starseeker: Oh sorry, never mind
21:31.38 starseeker MartinHermida: no need to apologize, I just have a really bad artistic eye
21:32.26 starseeker looks like you're getting a lot of interest and feedback - someone should be able to look at it fairly soon
21:33.14 MartinHermida starseeker: OK, so I'll wait for someone 'qualified' to do it ;-)
21:33.48 maths22 I did not see it in the pdf you posted in the comgeom
21:33.58 starseeker maths22: which "it"?
21:34.06 starseeker the file format definition?
21:34.25 maths22 the prsence of the remarks column
21:35.32 starseeker ah - are you hoping that you won't have to review that column for accuracy? ;-)
21:36.33 maths22 no- I just have to re-ocr it then
21:36.54 starseeker maths22: take a look at page 47 (page 48 in my PDF reader) - Figure 25
21:37.33 maths22 That is table 3
21:37.50 maths22 I mean am refering to the one on 44
21:38.46 starseeker Ah, OK. so for that one, it looks like the "REMARKS" column corresponds to the "Comments" section, 70-80
21:41.53 starseeker maths22: ultimately, we want comgeom-g to handle the file as-is - my take on it is that means we should strive to be as accurate as possible in preserving what's in the data file as seen in the report
22:07.52 maths22 OK thank you
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22:20.39 brlcad maths22: awesome to hear you taking that one on .. there's practically an unlimited supply of comgeom data that could be converted
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23:00.55 maths22 OCR run
23:01.01 maths22 I will proof it later
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