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| 07:59.31 | YatharthROCK | I really need to talk to a mentor regarding my task... brlcad mandeep https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264 | 
| 08:32.29 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: You there? | 
| 08:35.45 | YatharthROCK | What you, ``Erik? | 
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| 11:46.37 | YatharthROCK | I really need to talk to a mentor regarding my task... brlcad mandeep starseeker https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264 | 
| 11:49.38 | ``Erik | !notify ask | 
| 11:49.39 | Notify | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 
| 11:54.38 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: Sorry. Any in this task: <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264> | 
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| 11:54.46 | YatharthROCK | I'm not really sure what is being asked. | 
| 11:55.35 | YatharthROCK | I think I just have so whip out a few command-line utilities to replace "<imageobject> <imagedata align="center" fileref="../../lessons/en/images/img.png" format="PNG"/> </imageobject>" with "<imageobject role="html"> <imagedata align="center" fileref="../../books/en/images/img.png" format="PNG"/> </imageobject> <imageobject role="fo"> <imagedata align="center" fileref="../../books/en/images/img.png" format="PNG"/> </ | 
| 11:55.59 | YatharthROCK | What's the hard part in that? It's just itarating over the files and doing a regex replace. | 
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| 12:02.45 | ``Erik | that might be all there is, it looks like every image should have both 'html' and 'fo' roles (I'm guessing for quality differences down the road... 72dpi vs 300dpi, etc)... looks like brlcad added it so he'd be the best to verify that, starseeker may have good input as well | 
| 12:02.49 | ``Erik | doh | 
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| 12:07.34 | tbrowder2 | Ref this task: <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264>, the intent IS to prepare for the next step which is to apply separate formatting for html versus pdf, so it would be helpful to keep the new code in the same format as the old so the two blocks can be compared easily vertically by eye, i.e., watch to preserve spacing with any regex replace. So, e.g. | 
| 12:12.54 | YatharthROCK | tbrowder2: So I just do the regex replace and I'm done? | 
| 12:16.29 | tbrowder2 | Yes, as long as "make doc" shows valid code (if I were checking it, I would check the patches looking for the format as in the task description). | 
| 12:17.17 | ``Erik | 07:02 <``Erik> that might be all there is, it looks like every image should have both 'html' and 'fo' roles (I'm guessing for quality differences down the road... 72dpi vs 300dpi, etc)... looks like brlcad added it so he'd be the best to verify that, starseeker may have good input as well | 
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| 12:23.31 | YatharthROCK | tbrowder2: Whether I modified files or not, 'make doc' just says 'nothing to be done' | 
| 12:43.16 | tbrowder2 | Are you using the setup in the VM? | 
| 12:44.24 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: if you whip up a tool to do the replacements correctly, that would be an awesome way to complete the task! | 
| 12:45.31 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Du-oh! Did you think I'd do it manually? | 
| 12:45.43 | starseeker | some people would | 
| 12:45.49 | starseeker | either way, so long as it gets done! | 
| 12:45.58 | YatharthROCK | How about a follow-up task asking for the tool, and this task just asking for 4 documents? ;) | 
| 12:46.06 | YatharthROCK | Pleease... | 
| 12:46.09 | starseeker | heh - sure | 
| 12:46.52 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: are you set up to compile? (i.e. did you do the build steps for CMake configuring?) | 
| 12:47.31 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: No. I downloaded the source, but installed from the deb. | 
| 12:47.40 | YatharthROCK | I dunno how to build it. | 
| 12:47.47 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: one thing about automated tools - you want to make very sure it changed only what you intended | 
| 12:47.51 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: that's why | 
| 12:48.01 | starseeker | go to the soure directory and do the following: | 
| 12:48.06 | starseeker | mkdir build | 
| 12:48.07 | starseeker | cd build | 
| 12:48.13 | starseeker | cmake .. | 
| 12:48.43 | starseeker | if you don't have CMake, you may need to install that from your distro's package archive | 
| 12:49.35 | YatharthROCK | I had to do this last year, so i have that : | 
| 12:49.38 | YatharthROCK | It's building. | 
| 12:51.03 | starseeker | OK, so once it's built you should see it re-building as you make changes to the xml files | 
| 12:51.22 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Ohhh... till now I was using 'make' for some stupid reason. | 
| 12:51.33 | starseeker | you use make to actually build | 
| 12:51.35 | YatharthROCK | No wonder it was showing me that stupid error. | 
| 12:51.40 | starseeker | but you need to run cmake first | 
| 12:51.43 | YatharthROCK | Wait, what? | 
| 12:51.45 | YatharthROCK | Ohh... | 
| 12:52.01 | starseeker | make didn't have any Makefiles to tell it what to do, because CMake generates them | 
| 12:52.22 | YatharthROCK | I foud cmake using apropos. Reading the man page, I though it made the CMakeLists files for make to use. | 
| 12:52.41 | YatharthROCK | Oh, you just typed that before me. | 
| 12:52.53 | starseeker | so the error "nothing to be done" was because there were no Makefiles - if you run make in a totally empty directory, you'll see the same error | 
| 12:52.53 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: So will i have to run make after this | 
| 12:52.57 | starseeker | yep | 
| 12:53.12 | YatharthROCK | Will it take a sh*t-load of time? | 
| 12:53.22 | YatharthROCK | I don't exactly have top-notch hardware. | 
| 12:53.31 | starseeker | since you are focused on the docbook, I'd suggest changing directories into build/doc/docbook | 
| 12:53.45 | starseeker | then type "make" and it'll build just the documentation | 
| 12:53.58 | starseeker | and whatever tools it needs to generate it | 
| 12:54.03 | YatharthROCK | Uhh... you mean ./doc/docbook/build right | 
| 12:54.04 | YatharthROCK | ? | 
| 12:54.07 | starseeker | nope | 
| 12:54.15 | starseeker | let's say your source is in /home/user/brlcad | 
| 12:54.31 | starseeker | you should have made a directory "build" at /home/user/brlcad/build/ | 
| 12:54.45 | starseeker | then cd /home/user/brlcad/build && cmake .. | 
| 12:54.50 | starseeker | that's what's running initially | 
| 12:55.02 | starseeker | once that's done, you cd into /home/user/brlcad/build/doc/docbook/ | 
| 12:55.19 | starseeker | that's where the Makefiles specific to DocBook have been placed | 
| 12:56.11 | YatharthROCK | Oh, OK. 10x | 
| 12:56.18 | YatharthROCK | And how do you do a SVN diff? | 
| 12:56.34 | YatharthROCK | Why don't you guys use git? Historical reasons? | 
| 12:56.49 | starseeker | from the directory /home/user/brlcad run the command 'svn diff' | 
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| 12:56.59 | starseeker | that'll show you what has been changed. | 
| 12:57.22 | YatharthROCK | So redirect it to a file and upload? | 
| 12:57.25 | starseeker | I usually pipe that into a patch file: svn diff > /home/user/brlcad_doc_changes.patch | 
| 12:57.30 | starseeker | er, yeah | 
| 12:58.21 | starseeker | lot of reasons - we stick to a centralized development model | 
| 12:58.33 | starseeker | svn is very good for that scenario | 
| 12:59.06 | starseeker | everyone has to stay up with the latest changes, rather than working in isolation | 
| 12:59.18 | starseeker | which we view as a Good Thing | 
| 12:59.48 | starseeker | open source software is a collaborative process, but lots of times people prefer to go off into their own corner and work until their piece is "done" | 
| 13:00.37 | starseeker | we try to encourage people to interact with the community as part of the development process - faster learning, easier integration of work, can help to avoid pursuit of "blind alleys" | 
| 13:02.01 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: if you are comfortable with DocBook, would you be interested in other "follow-on" DocBook tasks? The image command updating is just the first step - after that, we need to get the images correctly sized and positioned | 
| 13:03.52 | starseeker | that'll require having Apache FOP installed and working (I believe there is an 'fop' package for most of the Debian based distros) | 
| 13:04.25 | starseeker | OK, I gotta run - thanks YatharthROCK for your work on this task! | 
| 13:04.44 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: I dunno about the image one, | 
| 13:04.47 | YatharthROCK | kk bye | 
| 13:04.57 | YatharthROCK | What about the follow-up task for a sciprt to this task? | 
| 13:05.12 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: The one that asks for the script, not just the files. | 
| 13:05.43 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: I think that sounds reasonable, if you do in fact have a script that can do the update for *all* the xml files and change only what you're intending to change | 
| 13:06.04 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Uhhh... 'python script' belongs to 'script', right? | 
| 13:06.14 | starseeker | is wary of unintended consequences with regex expressions and xml files ;-) | 
| 13:06.17 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: sure | 
| 13:06.35 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: this is a "one time" change, ideally, since new documents should adhere to the new standard | 
| 13:06.45 | YatharthROCK | I use grep using os.popen and pretty constrained re, so it should be OK. | 
| 13:06.52 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: 10x a lot :D | 
| 13:06.58 | YatharthROCK | How will you keep me updated? | 
| 13:07.24 | starseeker | the task would be "create a script that automatically updates all image tags to the html+fo" format - I'll try to define such a task quickly | 
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| 13:13.57 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: I tried to submit a task for the script - keep an eye out for it appearing on the list | 
| 13:14.19 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Will Notify tell me? | 
| 13:14.39 | starseeker | I don't think it will - you may have to watch the task list itself | 
| 13:14.50 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: If you're not out of time, could you review this task? <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264> | 
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| 13:15.08 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: What's the other task's title? | 
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| 13:15.38 | starseeker | the title I suggested was: "Write a script to complete all DocBook image tag updates" | 
| 13:15.51 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: What happens if I interrupt a make build in between? | 
| 13:16.09 | starseeker | just type make again and it should resume where it left off | 
| 13:16.29 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Really? Ctrl-C, then run it again? | 
| 13:16.36 | YatharthROCK | That's so cool... | 
| 13:16.54 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: can you add a couple more files to your patch? | 
| 13:17.14 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: kk, wait | 
| 13:20.52 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: I modified the 4 files with the most occurrences of mediaobject that weren't already modified. Enough? | 
| 13:21.00 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: yes | 
| 13:21.28 | YatharthROCK | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5377263889547264 | 
| 13:21.40 | YatharthROCK | I miss GCIBot. | 
| 13:22.13 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: mged15 was already updated by an earlier task | 
| 13:22.28 | starseeker | did you do "svn update" in your tree? | 
| 13:23.23 | YatharthROCK | No. | 
| 13:23.38 | starseeker | ah - yeah, make sure you do that periodically so you see what has already been done | 
| 13:23.52 | starseeker | 4 of the lesson files have been updated | 
| 13:23.55 | YatharthROCK | Please tell me I won't have to resolve merge conflicts. | 
| 13:24.17 | starseeker | just svn revert doc/docbook/lessons/en/mged15_creating_a_toy_truck.xml | 
| 13:24.24 | starseeker | then do svn update | 
| 13:24.30 | YatharthROCK | I already did. | 
| 13:24.36 | YatharthROCK | Now its asking me how to resolve it. | 
| 13:24.43 | starseeker | "theirs full" | 
| 13:24.45 | starseeker | tf | 
| 13:25.05 | YatharthROCK | It's saying tc | 
| 13:25.09 | YatharthROCK | Oh, for all of them | 
| 13:25.30 | starseeker | you're wiping out your local changes and applying theirs | 
| 13:26.01 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Uploaded the updated patch file. | 
| 13:26.22 | starseeker | that's the three article files? | 
| 13:26.31 | starseeker | can you update one more of those to make 4? | 
| 13:26.37 | YatharthROCK | <facepalm> OK. | 
| 13:27.08 | ``Erik | can also do an 'svn revert -R .' to get back to an 'unmodified' checkout, so an update should work without conflict (but local changes will be tossed out) | 
| 13:27.11 | YatharthROCK | Dammit, I lost the regex I was using. | 
| 13:27.23 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: I've *really* got to go | 
| 13:27.26 | ``Erik | if there is a good reason to use git, we have a read only git repo | 
| 13:27.30 | starseeker | ``Erik: can you take him the rest of the way? | 
| 13:27.41 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: thanks for the great work! | 
| 13:27.45 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Please just accept it. It said 1 large or 4 small. | 
| 13:27.49 | ``Erik | starseeker: I can try, but I'm not big on the docbook stuff :) | 
| 13:28.31 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: OK, I guess that'll do :-) | 
| 13:28.42 | YatharthROCK | :D | 
| 13:29.04 | Notify | 03GCI:starseeker * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents): Task Closed - Congratulations, this task has been completed successfully. | 
| 13:29.07 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: keep up the good work! | 
| 13:29.15 | ``Erik | I think the '1 large or 4 small' was intended to limit the scope for people doing it by hand... if your script can bash it all out in one whack, why not? | 
| 13:29.26 | starseeker | ``Erik: that's why he wants a script task | 
| 13:29.27 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Will the new task be there by now? | 
| 13:29.36 | starseeker | I tried to submit one via that form, but I don't see it yet | 
| 13:30.15 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: Not for long :/ I have my ISEEs, SSATs and TOEFLs coming up, as well as an MUN and school exams. All in the same 30 days along with GCi which I'd been waiting a year for to ace. | 
| 13:30.29 | ``Erik | 'that form' being the google doc one? I think sean has to manually export, import it to melange, resolve the conflicts, and manually add it to the wiki... centralized, but not automated? | 
| 13:30.34 | YatharthROCK | I'll have to stop after some tasks this year too. | 
| 13:30.35 | starseeker | bah | 
| 13:31.04 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: tell you what - grab one of the other DocBook tasks for this work, and use that to submit the script | 
| 13:31.12 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: Nooo... Sean comes online when it's night for me. I won't be able to claim it. | 
| 13:31.24 | starseeker | https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5007157967716352 | 
| 13:31.30 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: There are many tasks like that? | 
| 13:31.31 | ``Erik | starseeker, get the fuck out of here | 
| 13:31.32 | starseeker | use that one | 
| 13:31.40 | YatharthROCK | Why didn't you guys just ask for the script before-hand? | 
| 13:31.46 | YatharthROCK | Oh right, one-time stuff. | 
| 13:31.52 | YatharthROCK | Still, you could've told them to modify all the files. | 
| 13:32.12 | starseeker | YatharthROCK: use that last open task for the script | 
| 13:32.15 | ``Erik | YatharthROCK: if you're down with git, you can always make a github project for holding it and toss it in there... then when you're jobseeking and someone checks your github profile, you have this gem of usefulness :) | 
| 13:32.17 | starseeker | ``Erik: heh, k - later all | 
| 13:32.27 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: You told me half an hour ago that you *really8 needed to go. You should better do that. 10x for everything :D | 
| 13:33.20 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: Why would anyone value a simple script that does a regex replace all on all files in a directory that contain that string? | 
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| 13:33.58 | ``Erik | YatharthROCK: because it solves a very real problem, and there are a lot of "developers" and "software engineers" who couldn't manage it and would do it by hand | 
| 13:34.00 | Notify | 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Fix Image Formatting in BRL-CAD's DocBook Documentation (any ONE large document or 4 smaller documents) #2: Task Claimed - I would like to work on this task. | 
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| 13:34.35 | ``Erik | that you thought to script it instead of manually doing it already puts you above the median | 
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| 13:35.46 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: Uhh... right. What exactly do those poor sods *do* in their job then? | 
| 13:36.23 | ``Erik | piss off those of us that are competent *cough* I mean, um, slog crap code that satisfies mgmt | 
| 13:37.45 | ``Erik | people who are good enough and care enough to do scripts and code for fun are already "rock stars" in the greater scheme of things, srry :) | 
| 13:40.09 | YatharthROCK | How come BRL-CAD got open-sources BTW? And does the US army still use it? | 
| 13:42.31 | ``Erik | the BRL-CAD developers are open source weenies. it's always has the source code distributed, but there was a multi-year effort by the coders to make it unhindered (when I first heard of it, you had to fill out a form and agreement to fax to the army and they'd send you an encrypted tarball and the key). | 
| 13:43.51 | ``Erik | the army research lab still uses it, it's the geometry interrogation engine for the simulations to test new armor and weapons, um, https://www.arl.army.mil/slad/ is mostly built ontop of librt down in the guts | 
| 13:47.15 | ``Erik | (if you have some time to waste and want to see how bad the worst of the worst is, http://thedailywtf.com is an amusing blog of horror stories :) | 
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| 14:07.49 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: Definitely lives up to its name. | 
| 14:08.15 | YatharthROCK | and what do you mean exactly by 'open source weenies'? Like they whined for it or against it? | 
| 14:10.16 | ``Erik | we like open source... a lot | 
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| 14:13.53 | YatharthROCK | :D | 
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| 14:15.50 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: I'll see if we can get starseeker's submitted task past Sean. Could you review this task till then? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5007157967716352 | 
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| 14:17.18 | YatharthROCK | gjeet: You there? | 
| 14:17.27 | gjeet | yes | 
| 14:17.39 | YatharthROCK | Could you review my task? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5007157967716352 | 
| 14:17.47 | YatharthROCK | You assigned it to me. | 
| 14:20.58 | YatharthROCK | gjeet: | 
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| 14:22.36 | gjeet | YatharthROCK: wait, I am reviewing some other task, after that I will review this one | 
| 14:22.51 | YatharthROCK | gjeet: kk, no prob. 10x :) | 
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| 14:32.54 | YatharthROCK | Can someone explain to me how exactly the Google Charts wrapper is supposed to behave? <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696> | 
| 14:33.53 | YatharthROCK | ``Erik: Are you like a ChanOp or something? You show up at the top of the user list... | 
| 14:34.04 | YatharthROCK | Oh, the backticks must be sorted first... | 
| 14:37.29 | YatharthROCK | Is any mentor here who can review my task? https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696 | 
| 14:37.42 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: Are you there? | 
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| 15:05.19 | YatharthROCK | starseeker: You back? | 
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| 15:07.38 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: same as last year | 
| 15:07.40 | brlcad | ~ask | 
| 15:07.40 | infobot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Don't ask if a person is there; just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily or against our will. | 
| 15:08.00 | brlcad | if you can't wait, then you shouldn't be using irc here | 
| 15:08.43 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: Well, it's not a question, is it? More like a request. I'm sorry, I'll try be more patient now. | 
| 15:08.48 | brlcad | tasks are reviewed in a queue, not based on who asks the most | 
| 15:09.12 | YatharthROCK | LOL, sorry again. | 
| 15:09.18 | YatharthROCK | BTW, for this task: https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696 | 
| 15:09.30 | YatharthROCK | What exactly is the GCharts code supposed to do? | 
| 15:09.32 | brlcad | that means it's important to make sure you ask useful questions that don't require going back and forth several times, each time you get back in line | 
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| 15:09.41 | YatharthROCK | As in, why can't it just return a PNG? | 
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| 15:10.54 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: You mean get all the possible required info from before only so you don't have to be told to fix your submission later? | 
| 15:11.25 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: no, not at all | 
| 15:11.56 | MartinHermida | brlcad: Could I use some SVG just to draw the interconnecting portions directly written in the HTML? I mean: the SVG code, not an image itself | 
| 15:11.57 | brlcad | I mean be careful about what questions you ask and how you ask them | 
| 15:12.10 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: And whaddaya' mean, same as last year? You actually remember me doing that last year too? (I really need to learn after just being told once...) | 
| 15:12.16 | brlcad | some questions that are much more easily answered than others | 
| 15:12.32 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: yes, last year you failed the "~ask" many time | 
| 15:12.39 | YatharthROCK | :$ | 
| 15:12.48 | brlcad | stop asking if people are here, just ask your question and be on irc for a response | 
| 15:12.55 | brlcad | which may be seconds or hours later | 
| 15:13.26 | brlcad | pretty much all irc tools have tools to help you keep track of discussions directed at you even if it's a really busy channel | 
| 15:13.40 | brlcad | e.g., /last YatharthROCK | 
| 15:13.48 | YatharthROCK | And this channel has logs too, so i won't miss out even when I'm gone. | 
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| 15:14.52 | YatharthROCK | '/last YatharthROCK' doesn't do anything for me. Is a client-specific thing? My client is pretty primitive. | 
| 15:16.07 | YatharthROCK | Could you tell me what exactly is expected in this task? I want to work on it after my current one is reviewed. <https://google-melange.appspot.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5277586288541696> | 
| 15:16.34 | MartinHermida | brlcad: I'd also like to know if scaling the CSS logo using "transform:scale();" will be right | 
| 15:16.37 | brlcad | except we won't answer questions for people that are not here | 
| 15:16.39 | YatharthROCK | I won't fail ~ask again, brlcad. | 
| 15:16.43 | brlcad | so logs aren't helpful there | 
| 15:17.07 | brlcad | and yes, /last was just an example -- every client is a little different | 
| 15:17.18 | brlcad | (learn your client's features being the suggestion) | 
| 15:17.41 | Notify | 03GCI:Tan Di Sheng * Design a coffee mug for BRL-CAD: Ready for review - The work on this task is ready to be reviewed. | 
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| 15:18.22 | YatharthROCK | My client is built on Chrome's API and doesn't do much, but I get the drift. | 
| 15:18.24 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: Also, did you see starseeker's task proposal to write a script to format all the image tags? | 
| 15:18.33 | brlcad | by the way -- "what exactly is expected" is not a good question, if it's unclear to you state what you do understand of the task and what you do not understand | 
| 15:18.46 | brlcad | that said, that task is not written very well, it should be more clear | 
| 15:19.18 | brlcad | so I suggest putting a comment there for the task's author and/or the benefit of others to clarify the deliverable(s) | 
| 15:20.03 | brlcad | MartinHermida: I don't know if that will be right, but I know a great way to find out (try it) | 
| 15:20.53 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: at a glance, that task says that code wraps gchart and gchart has changed, so assumedly the task is to update it to the new gcharts API | 
| 15:21.17 | brlcad | or as it states, use the new API "more optimally" than it currently does | 
| 15:21.23 | MartinHermida | brlcad: Don't you know if will be right scaling it that way, writing SVG directly in HTML or borth? | 
| 15:21.42 | MartinHermida | brlcad: both* | 
| 15:21.51 | Notify | 03GCI:Yatharth Agarwal * Loading Google charts from API: Clarification on the deliverables - Could you state what exactly is required of the code? Is it supposed to entirely follow the specs of... | 
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| 15:22.13 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: Yeah. That API will be deprecated by 2015, I think. | 
| 15:22.15 | brlcad | MartinHermida: I am not familiar with the particulars of that task, but you could ask that question as a comment to the task | 
| 15:22.24 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: so then .. what's unclear? | 
| 15:23.07 | YatharthROCK | Why don't you just use a library? Googling for 'google charts python' gave lots of comprehensive and easy-to-use libraries with minimal dependencies. | 
| 15:23.39 | ishwerdas | hi MartinHermida | 
| 15:24.08 | YatharthROCK | I just want to know, can we return the chart as a finished PNG? | 
| 15:24.10 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: hi | 
| 15:24.27 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: can you give me a link to your task | 
| 15:24.41 | MartinHermida | Here it is: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664 | 
| 15:24.42 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: so that i can see what you have done till now | 
| 15:24.49 | YatharthROCK | That way, I just have to write some middle-man code between BRLCAD and the library and it'll be done. | 
| 15:25.06 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: will get back to you soon in a minute :) | 
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| 15:25.37 | YatharthROCK | The only problem being of dependencies. | 
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| 15:29.08 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: Also, did you see starseeker 's task proposal to write a script to format all the image tags? | 
| 15:32.38 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: what we mean by scaling is that when we increase the size of the container the logo would be able to scale itself | 
| 15:33.38 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: making it somewhat responsive probably by using fluid widths, can you do that? | 
| 15:33.51 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: percentage in widths and heights | 
| 15:36.19 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: I'll try, but if I can't do it that way will it be right scaling it with the CSS property 'transform:scale();' | 
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| 15:40.25 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: whats the current output of that class? if it ultimately is used to get a png, then you probably could just return an image | 
| 15:40.46 | brlcad | you'll have to look at the callers of that class | 
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| 15:42.51 | brlcad | and again, asking me if i saw something isn't very useful -- ask what you're intending to ask in followup | 
| 15:43.47 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: Yes, but then you would have to add slight javascript so that it checks the width and height of the container div and whenever browser is resized, it scales accordingly. | 
| 15:45.02 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: By using transform:scale(); I think I won't have to use javascript | 
| 15:45.21 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: it's a CSS property | 
| 15:48.05 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: Yes, you can also use media queries to have that effect, what I want to say is firstly try it without transform scale, I am sure you will be able to do that. | 
| 15:48.47 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: Also, I guess transform:scale() has limited browser support for only webkit browsers (if I am not wrong) | 
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| 15:50.22 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: It also works on firefox. OK, I'll try doing it with CSS, SVG and JS | 
| 15:51.02 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: SVG for what? | 
| 15:52.30 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: It returns some HTML and embedded JS code. I now see why: it makes for higher-resolution, faster, possibly-interactive and expected code. | 
| 15:52.37 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: For the 'bridges' between the two white circles in the pink shape | 
| 15:53.20 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: the pt function tests are taking ~3hrs for half of them due to the necessity of coming up with test cases | 
| 15:53.29 | YatharthROCK | MartinHermida: It is possible to approximate it with only CSS, | 
| 15:53.47 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: you can do it without SVG and only CSS, can't you? | 
| 15:54.00 | brlcad | tbrowder2: greetings | 
| 15:54.31 | brlcad | tbrowder2: it's not acceptable, but I don't see what you spoke of in my immediate lot -- checking further back but feel free to PM me any names involved | 
| 15:54.37 | brlcad | s/lot/log/ | 
| 15:55.19 | brlcad | andromeda-galaxy: thanks for the feedback | 
| 15:55.26 | MartinHermida | ishwerdas: I'll try to improve the 'connection' between, because brlcad told me it has to be smother | 
| 15:55.42 | brlcad | that's pretty good then -- basically if you had to write it again, you'd probably easily come in under 2 hours | 
| 15:56.01 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: can we break this one into two tasks? since the first half has taken so long? | 
| 15:56.06 | brlcad | heh, don't smother me! | 
| 15:56.08 | ishwerdas | MartinHermida: It can be done only with CSS, our last claimant 'binaryking' was able to do that, he just quit before he could make it responsive. He didn't upload that file on melange, but he shared it on IRC, and it was smooth :) | 
| 15:56.10 | brlcad | smoother would be good though | 
| 15:56.22 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: 'Have you seen it?' -> 'What do you think of it'? -> 'Is the task going to be added to the list?' -> 'I had written some code for it already while completing another task. Will the task be added?' | 
| 15:56.57 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: The problem is that coming up with the testcases takes a certain amount of time, even when familiar with the code, because you have to make sure that you can actually put the right results in your testcases | 
| 15:57.13 | YatharthROCK | ishwerdas: 'smooth' in which sense? No discontinuities? | 
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| 15:57.42 | MartinHermida | Sorry brlcad, I meant 'smoother', forgive me :) | 
| 15:57.55 | brlcad | YatharthROCK: now you're getting it .. those first questions are pretty much irrelevant -- you just want to know if/when it'll be added, to which I can easily say "yes, it'll be added soon -- new tasks are processed throughout the day most days" | 
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| 15:58.14 | brlcad | MartinHermida: I know, just play on words with the spelling error | 
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| 15:58.57 | ishwerdas | YatharthROCK: yes no space between various sub-modules and also the curves in the bridge between the various subparts need to be good (which binary king was able to do with a bit of assistance) | 
| 15:59.56 | brlcad | binaryking's was off a little bit too, but some mentor let it pass | 
| 16:00.40 | YatharthROCK | Even mine... :$ | 
| 16:01.41 | ishwerdas | brlcad: Yes, but here at IRC he had a good amount of chat with me and during that he was able to improve, he also shared a screenshot of the results which were just what I wanted in the task (while I was writing it) | 
| 16:01.43 | YatharthROCK | BTW I found the fix to the transparency problem: use a negative border-radius for the bridge using CSS3 gradients!! | 
| 16:02.04 | ishwerdas | YathartROCK: exactly! | 
| 16:02.37 | ishwerdas | YatarthROCK: can you share a screenshot of your best output here? | 
| 16:03.00 | YatharthROCK | ishwerdas: I didn't implement the negative border radius thing. | 
| 16:03.09 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: I can give you bn_3pts_collinear through bn_distsq_pt3_lseg3_v2 right now (the first half) | 
| 16:03.31 | ishwerdas | YatharthROCK: Ok :) | 
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| 16:07.42 | YatharthROCK | ishwerdas: Here it is: <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/60644193/BRL-CAD.png> | 
| 16:08.29 | brlcad | needs a dash, BRL-CAD | 
| 16:08.36 | brlcad | official has it | 
| 16:08.43 | brlcad | contest image did not | 
| 16:09.44 | brlcad | slight discontinuity on the links (at least the top red, bottom connection) | 
| 16:09.45 | YatharthROCK | brlcad: I guess so. There was this URL on the BRL-CAD site containing '*/angelov*.png' | 
| 16:09.56 | brlcad | yep, that's the contest image | 
| 16:10.08 | brlcad | you wouldn't have known (now you do) :) | 
| 16:11.02 | YatharthROCK | Did the other submission support transparent backgrounds? | 
| 16:11.30 | YatharthROCK | Oh yeah, I remember seeing a link to creating fake in-bevels on the task page. | 
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| 16:23.34 | kanzure | "Mikhail Kazakov from OpenCascade SAS just announced at the Salome User's Day that next OCCT version will be LGPL" | 
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| 18:11.52 | MartinHermida | I've just finished the CSS logo but the only way to make the separation between the pink and black things is with a circle with a JS script to make it change the color matching the container div's one. Will it be right making it that way? Thanks | 
| 18:23.35 | Deepak_ | brlcad : I want to discuss about new tasks for GCI need your suggestions. | 
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| 18:40.19 | MartinHermida | Maybe I'll need more time in my task, please, could you extend the time if the task is not right? http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664 | 
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| 20:19.39 | brlcad | back in a bit | 
| 20:58.18 | maths22 | For http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5597236545191936 | 
| 20:58.29 | maths22 | I have completed transcription of table 2 | 
| 21:03.36 | MartinHermida | brlcad: Fixed the "bridge", now it's quite smooth, and scaling: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664 | 
| 21:03.41 | maths22 | Also, is there any documentation of the Com-Geom type itselft? | 
| 21:04.11 | starseeker | maths22: um. I think the GIFT reports might have something... | 
| 21:04.46 | maths22 | just so you know, after I had run it through ocr, table 2 (I think the easiest) took about an hour | 
| 21:05.01 | maths22 | Thank you | 
| 21:05.10 | starseeker | nods - yeah, it's tedious | 
| 21:05.29 | starseeker | maths22: give me a second, I'm checking the GIFT stuff... | 
| 21:06.06 | starseeker | maths22: could we write a script or something to help? (like, say, converting five characters consisting of either 0 or O to all 0?) | 
| 21:07.59 | starseeker | maths22: try this - http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADB006037 | 
| 21:09.27 | starseeker | maths22: if we need to scope the tasks to parts of the PDF file, that's fine too | 
| 21:10.03 | maths22 | Does brlcad do anything with the names themselves, or do they not matter? | 
| 21:11.04 | starseeker | which names? | 
| 21:11.24 | maths22 | The comments/remarks fields | 
| 21:12.03 | maths22 | I also cannot figure out a relationship between table 3 and the document's Reigion idendification information | 
| 21:12.46 | maths22 | Sorry about the bad spelling-typing with one hand does that | 
| 21:13.28 | starseeker | the Region Identification information being table 4? | 
| 21:14.43 | starseeker | maths22: the tool that we'll be using to import these is comgeom-g | 
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| 21:16.23 | starseeker | maths22: for the transcription tasks, even a literal ascii text transcription of the report would be fine - if we need to, we can make subsequent tasks to assemble "valid" comgeom files | 
| 21:19.18 | maths22 | ok | 
| 21:19.26 | maths22 | Would an excel/csv file work? | 
| 21:19.39 | starseeker | maths22: in my opinion, it's worth preserving the contents of the REMARKS column - it won't (currently) be reflected in the object names, but the converter should preserve it as an attribute even if it isn't doing it now | 
| 21:20.03 | starseeker | I'd go with csv - excel is a commercial format - but that's a fine place to start | 
| 21:20.21 | maths22 | OK | 
| 21:20.59 | starseeker | maths22: and yes, it's expected that the solids table will take more time due to the density of the numerical information | 
| 21:21.27 | starseeker | if you want to do your work in excel and then export CSV, that's fine | 
| 21:22.00 | starseeker | or gnumeric, or libreoffice - whatever you prefer ;-) | 
| 21:23.17 | starseeker | you might even be able to get acrobat reader to spit out a text file you could import into the spreadsheet as a starting point... | 
| 21:24.41 | maths22 | I am using an ocr file to start | 
| 21:24.50 | starseeker | cool | 
| 21:26.02 | maths22 | Does table 2 actually have the descr in the final file | 
| 21:26.41 | starseeker | you mean the remarks column in table 2? | 
| 21:26.55 | maths22 | yes | 
| 21:27.09 | starseeker | I'm not sure if comgeom-g currently preserves them, but if it doesn't it should | 
| 21:27.18 | maths22 | . | 
| 21:27.20 | maths22 | [4~ | 
| 21:28.32 | starseeker | maths22: once we have this file transcribed properly, it's slated to become a test file for the comgeom-g importer | 
| 21:29.12 | MartinHermida | starseeker: Could you review my task?: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/6023159862001664 | 
| 21:30.12 | starseeker | <PROTECTED> | 
| 21:31.15 | MartinHermida | starseeker: Oh sorry, never mind | 
| 21:31.38 | starseeker | MartinHermida: no need to apologize, I just have a really bad artistic eye | 
| 21:32.26 | starseeker | looks like you're getting a lot of interest and feedback - someone should be able to look at it fairly soon | 
| 21:33.14 | MartinHermida | starseeker: OK, so I'll wait for someone 'qualified' to do it ;-) | 
| 21:33.48 | maths22 | I did not see it in the pdf you posted in the comgeom | 
| 21:33.58 | starseeker | maths22: which "it"? | 
| 21:34.06 | starseeker | the file format definition? | 
| 21:34.25 | maths22 | the prsence of the remarks column | 
| 21:35.32 | starseeker | ah - are you hoping that you won't have to review that column for accuracy? ;-) | 
| 21:36.33 | maths22 | no- I just have to re-ocr it then | 
| 21:36.54 | starseeker | maths22: take a look at page 47 (page 48 in my PDF reader) - Figure 25 | 
| 21:37.33 | maths22 | That is table 3 | 
| 21:37.50 | maths22 | I mean am refering to the one on 44 | 
| 21:38.46 | starseeker | Ah, OK. so for that one, it looks like the "REMARKS" column corresponds to the "Comments" section, 70-80 | 
| 21:41.53 | starseeker | maths22: ultimately, we want comgeom-g to handle the file as-is - my take on it is that means we should strive to be as accurate as possible in preserving what's in the data file as seen in the report | 
| 22:07.52 | maths22 | OK thank you | 
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| 22:20.39 | brlcad | maths22: awesome to hear you taking that one on .. there's practically an unlimited supply of comgeom data that could be converted | 
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| 23:00.55 | maths22 | OCR run | 
| 23:01.01 | maths22 | I will proof it later | 
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