IRC log for #brlcad on 20140207

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02:11.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59740 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bitv-tests.cmake brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_bitv.c brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/test_funcs.c): src/libbu/tests/bitv-tests.cmake+ add a new test intended to be the master bitv test+ remove commented out codesrc/libbu/tests/bu_bitv.c+ add a new test intended to be the master bitv testsrc/libbu/tests/test_funcs.c+ various corrections and improvements+ add
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02:22.53 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59741 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_bitv.c: add back code erroneously removed in revision 59740
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05:20.02 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59742 brlcad/trunk/regress/repository.sh: add two more tests for bio.h and bin.h redundancy header inclusions. there's a lot of hits now, so don't make them be failures until they can be sorted out.
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06:15.22 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59743 brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/tclcadAutoPath.c: nobody paying attention, these includes for itcl.h and itk.h are no longer necessary. once upon a time, functions were being called. now, they just pull a version, which is set in the config header.
06:18.09 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59744 brlcad/trunk/src/libtclcad/CMakeLists.txt: that means we no longer need to specify our bundled include directories in order to gain access to private/internal Tcl/Tk headers used by incrTcl.. we can eliminate them and simplify the build.
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12:30.14 starseeker hrm. bitv.c:639:5: error: ISO C90 forbids variable length array 'abyte'
12:32.06 starseeker little surprising, since the definition is char abyte[BITS_PER_BYTE + 1];
12:33.02 starseeker BITS_PER_BYTE is #defined in bu.h... what qualifies it as a vla?
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12:42.53 starseeker ah, nevermind
12:42.55 starseeker I see
12:43.15 starseeker not actually #define based, but a global int
12:45.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59745 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: These need to be define statements or we get errors about variable length arrays in C90
12:47.29 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59746 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/test_funcs.c: Fix bu_log statement
12:51.30 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59747 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bitv-tests.cmake brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_bitv.c): improve bitv test 'bu_hex_to_bitv'; clean up test code some; check for NULLs; there is more to be done here
12:59.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59748 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/test_funcs.c: replace 'magic' numbers with appropriate defined macro names
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16:18.14 masterkorp hwllo
16:18.20 masterkorp *hello
16:25.49 masterkorp I want to start designing a Power Take Off Unit, for my Nissan Patrol and eventually a PTO winch
16:26.34 masterkorp Does brlcad has some stress testing ?
16:26.59 masterkorp i would like to make some simulations before making some prototypes
16:52.17 starseeker O.o http://www.cs.uoi.gr/~fudos/smi2013.html
16:56.27 masterkorp Also i like to keep my CADs under git
16:56.44 masterkorp any recomendations or advices i shall have about that ?
16:56.53 starseeker masterkorp: are you thinking FEM stress modeling?
16:57.19 masterkorp yes, on the long run
16:57.42 starseeker we don't have support for that in BRL-CAD, unfortunately
16:58.26 masterkorp awww
16:58.43 masterkorp i am currently using openscad
16:59.20 masterkorp and I am strugling to finding finite element apss
16:59.28 starseeker you might check out something like http://www.salome-platform.org...
17:00.21 masterkorp http://www.calculix.de/
17:00.26 masterkorp i found calculix
17:00.36 starseeker http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Finite_Element_Analysis
17:02.31 masterkorp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_finite_element_software_packages
17:02.41 masterkorp funny that salome does not show here
17:02.56 starseeker salome uses other solvers
17:03.08 starseeker dunno if it'll do what you want, but that'd be where I'd start looking
17:04.14 masterkorp does salome allos import of STEP files and such ?
17:04.44 starseeker I believe it can import STEP files
17:05.16 masterkorp "Create/modify, import/export (IGES, STEP, BREP), repair/clean CAD models"
17:05.19 masterkorp sweet thanks
17:05.27 masterkorp so i can use my current openscad models
17:05.32 masterkorp thank you
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17:18.28 starseeker Out of curiosity, does this relate in any way to the web-based CAD work our guys are doing? https://github.com/bjnortier/shapesmith.next
17:24.31 starseeker adds SolveSpace to his list of interesting looking things that are GPL only... http://solvespace.com/index.pl
17:30.38 starseeker recent work... might be worth discussing with him whether he considered using gecode
17:48.39 starseeker dev who did this would also be interesting to talk to: http://free-cad.sourceforge.net/SrcDocu/dir_fb1c9c07e71953aeebae47afc0fb8941.html
18:01.31 starseeker makes a note to dig deeper into the http://www.cs.uoi.gr/~fudos/smi2013.html code...
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19:06.21 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59749 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: Start working on figuring out the right search filters to tell whether we have a tree that will work for STEP export.
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19:12.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59750 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: fix parens
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20:29.48 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59751 brlcad/trunk/src/librt/search.c: only set bool after path is initialized (thanks Richard)
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20:37.03 brlcad starseeker: no problems whatsoever building with tcl/tk 8.6
20:37.57 brlcad but looks like there is some disconnect between itcl and tcl
20:38.13 brlcad main windows come up fine, but any itcl window is crashing
21:48.06 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59752 (brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_fullpath.c): Add a function that allows for extra information to be printed when converting full paths to strings. So far, can print out boolean ops and object types. Currently useful for debugging, but it may prove to have other uses as well.
21:55.52 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59753 (brlcad/trunk/NEWS brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/search.xml brlcad/trunk/src/libged/search.c): Add a -v option to print more information in the full path reporting strings for search. This is primarily intended as a debugging tool to allow easy examination of the properties of the results that satisfied a given set of search filters.
21:56.19 starseeker brlcad: system itcl/itk, or our copy?
21:56.37 starseeker from what I recall, 8.6 had its own newer version of itcl/itk
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22:21.58 Notify 03BRL-CAD:r_weiss * 59754 brlcad/trunk/include/dg.h: Quiet windows build warning.
22:22.48 Notify 03BRL-CAD:r_weiss * 59755 brlcad/trunk/src/canon/canonize.c: Quiet windows build warning.
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22:27.09 Notify 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59761 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_bitv.c: fix clang-detected error, result vars are used uninitialized if some of the following if-statements are true
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22:28.12 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59764 brlcad/trunk/NEWS: keith's nurbs improvements pretty much affect everything including ray tracing and tesselation robustness. his changes affect evaluation of nurbs surfaces where edges and trims 'wrap around' from one side of the uv-domain to the other side.
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22:30.23 brlcad our copy
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23:03.59 ``Erik go, richard, go! O.o
23:05.07 Notify 03BRL-CAD:r_weiss * 59766 (brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm_obj.c brlcad/trunk/src/libged/dg_obj.c brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwcrop.c): Fixes to linux build which worked on windows.
23:20.27 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59767 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/search.xml brlcad/trunk/src/librt/search.c): Add a convenience type 'shape' to the search -type option that will match all primitives defining 2D or 3D shapes without using booleans. 'solid' might be more appropriate but would need to exclude sketch...
23:30.59 starseeker brlcad: do we have a means of recognizing circular trees?
23:32.13 ``Erik *cough* cyclic graph
23:32.28 starseeker ``Erik: er, yeah ;-)
23:32.57 starseeker ``Erik: how goes it?
23:33.11 ``Erik d'no if we have it, but it's not too difficult... "mark&sweep" is a fairly common approach
23:33.26 ``Erik it goes, just finishing off a nasty flu
23:33.32 starseeker wines
23:33.37 starseeker winces rather
23:33.41 starseeker that's not good
23:34.12 ``Erik reckon the lapse in health insurance may've been a mistake :/ erin's open enrollment isn't until may, though
23:34.14 starseeker got it just in time for all the snow and ice eh?
23:35.12 ``Erik yeh, county has decided that it doesn't even need snow to cancel the last couple weeks, so not only have I been sick, I've been at home with a 6yo, who was also sick for part of it :/
23:35.41 ``Erik (seriously, a couple days, clear roads, no snow... school cancels.)
23:36.09 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59768 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: More note scribbling for searches for 'things that cause assemblies problems'
23:36.19 starseeker was that back in the "super cold" week?
23:36.58 ``Erik one of 'em, the other was this week when it was 2[0-9]
23:37.23 starseeker votes to declare winter done
23:38.15 ``Erik I'd second that, but this is md, and there is no spring, it'll go from snow to 100 degrees :/
23:38.23 starseeker heh
23:38.36 ``Erik makes me miss seattle :)
23:38.50 starseeker well, at least we do get sunshine from time to time...
23:39.33 starseeker notes with some bemusement that FreeCAD has an item in their FAQ about not doing GSoC...
23:40.47 ``Erik gsoc can be a sapping experience, I'd think if BRL-CAD were purely volunteer, there'd be a lot more deliberation before applying
23:41.35 starseeker ``Erik: so, what's new in the iPhone world?
23:41.42 ``Erik I broke mine
23:41.45 ``Erik does that count?
23:41.49 starseeker urk
23:42.00 starseeker you're just having a crappy few weeks here aren't you
23:42.13 ``Erik back plate is shattered, but the rubber bumper is holding it together :)
23:42.18 starseeker unless that was a ploy to get your hands on the latest/greatest...?
23:42.30 ``Erik next time I'm in forest hill, I'll try to find my old back plate and put it back on
23:42.39 starseeker ah, not a ploy
23:43.31 ``Erik nah, I'm not terribly interested in the latest model... if I'm coding, I kinda want to be using the oldest weakest model I'd target, just to make sure it runs ok there
23:44.31 ``Erik d'no if you watch the news articles, a game called "flappy bird" is the hot new thing, incredibly trivial, yet makes $50k/day O.O insane stuff
23:44.50 ``Erik but the long tail falloff is very aggressive, #1 and #2 make money, #5 loses
23:45.07 starseeker can't help thinking that's kind of a lottery - still have no clue why Angry Birds took off
23:45.25 ``Erik it is
23:45.59 starseeker should probably read some research on why certain things "go viral"
23:46.21 starseeker not entirely sure I *want* to know, but still...
23:49.52 ``Erik 'viral' is a strange thing... rovio put out several dozen games before they did angry birds... notches first solo game was minecraft... it doesn't seem very predictable, but there're many models to hindsight it
23:50.38 ``Erik candy crush is yet another match 3 game, it took off like gangbusters and makes 900k/day
23:51.48 ``Erik Erin believes I should be coming down to aberdeen for a social lunch soon
23:52.16 starseeker grins - sounds like a plan, if it's not a forced march ;-)
23:52.51 ``Erik mebbe lees hunan or something, I dont' get chinese often anymore :D
23:53.10 starseeker sounds like a plan
23:53.21 ``Erik anyway, still need a few days to finish shedding this cough
23:53.50 starseeker nods
23:55.10 starseeker urk, almost 7
23:55.50 starseeker time flies when you're writing converter code
23:55.57 ``Erik if you're still in the office, you need a whuppin
23:56.14 starseeker heh
23:56.59 ``Erik 12 hour day? O.o
23:58.00 starseeker not quite
23:59.04 starseeker is getting closer to a point where some things "click" and good stuff happens - keeps you pushing
23:59.35 starseeker that stupid search bug was a wrench in the gears, but I think that's been delt with now

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