| 00:35.44 | kanzure | mpictor: i'm sure almost everything in OCC was built to contract, there was the original CASCADE components but i don't know if any of them remain.. |
| 00:43.19 | mpictor | kanzure: what I mean is, it's sorta funny that those ops didn't make it back into occ |
| 00:43.57 | mpictor | they must have been required to licence the code they were contracted to write exclusively under lgpl |
| 00:44.01 | kanzure | has anyone made a dependency graph of occ? i'm really curious to see which modules are the root modules. |
| 01:29.56 | mpictor | kanzure: look in OCE's CMakeFiles. for example: https://github.com/tpaviot/oce/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L1170 |
| 01:39.57 | kanzure | okay |
| 03:19.34 | starseeker | mpictor: I haven't had a chance to dig into that doc - are the SALOME booleans functional for NURBS BReps or just meshes? |
| 05:22.55 | brlcad | starseeker: so note that the header breakout is not just code movement |
| 05:23.26 | brlcad | the headers should be properly encapsulated |
| 05:23.50 | brlcad | meaning they include only and exactly what they need (and do so without an include cycle) |
| 05:26.38 | brlcad | e.g., new bu/magic.h is no longer encapsulated, missing the connection through for NO_BOMBING_MACROS, UNLIKELY, and BU_IGNORE |
| 05:27.06 | brlcad | at a glance, looks like others have similar issues |
| 07:14.17 | brlcad | ``Erik: notify deaded agains |
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| 12:42.42 | Amitoj | hello I am Amitoj Singh I want to take part in GSOC 2014 in BRL-CAD so suggest me where to start |
| 12:44.42 | starseeker | brlcad: noted. My plan was to start adjusting unit tests for libbu to use only the headers they need and use that effort to spot/fix any such issues |
| 12:45.40 | starseeker | Amitoj: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code/Checklist |
| 12:46.00 | starseeker | Or, more broadly, http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code |
| 12:52.38 | starseeker | _caleb: if you're interested in BRL-CAD you want to be discussing in #brlcad |
| 12:53.09 | starseeker | _caleb: community participation is vital |
| 12:53.46 | _caleb | startseeker: thanks for the advice |
| 12:54.00 | starseeker | for search exec, the main thing is going to be how to execute commands on search results |
| 12:54.28 | starseeker | so as a first step, I would study how the UNIX find command's exec option works |
| 12:55.01 | starseeker | we will be "launching" internal libged commands instead of programs, but the behavior we're after will be similar in many other respects |
| 12:56.06 | starseeker | the BRL-CAD file that contains most of our search implementation is in src/librt/search.c |
| 12:57.16 | starseeker | You'll notice that it re-uses a fair bit of find code from the NetBSD and OpenBSD find implementations |
| 12:58.21 | starseeker | but we are working with database objects and hierarchies rather than file systems |
| 12:58.41 | _caleb | yes i actually got there and tried studying the code!! kind of interestig! |
| 12:58.41 | starseeker | _caleb: was that what you were looking for? |
| 12:59.15 | _caleb | yup i thinks that will be a good start for me!!! thanks alot! |
| 12:59.35 | starseeker | OK, then the other side of the coin is understanding how a libged function is executed, what its arguments need to be, and how to handle its results |
| 12:59.58 | starseeker | I would suggest discussing that aspect with brlcad when he is around |
| 13:00.19 | _caleb | ok! |
| 13:03.11 | starseeker | my expectation is that a lot of the "thorny" issues will be there - how to convert a "search plan" request into a libged function call, what to do with the results of the libged command when stringing multiple -exec options together to allow proper processing, etc. |
| 13:04.25 | starseeker | it may require some supporting bits that aren't fully in place yet - brlcad will have the best idea about what we need to get that aspect working |
| 13:05.52 | starseeker | _caleb: remember IRC isn't truly interactive - people will come and go, so stay logged in and you may get answers to your questions hours after they are posted |
| 13:05.57 | starseeker | that's normal and expected |
| 13:07.21 | Amitoj | I am interested in web development so can i get project related to it i want to contribute in brl-cad |
| 13:08.30 | _caleb | ok! i really find the libged functions not very easy to understand though i am trying hard to have a grip of it day an night! |
| 13:08.48 | _caleb | i mean its functioning! |
| 13:14.43 | _caleb | Amitoj try surveying through this project ideas and you may see something interesting on the Web part!! http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas |
| 13:15.04 | ``Erik | brlcad, starseeker: notify itself seems to be running ok, mail delivery doesn't seem to be happening (or procmail or spamd are jammed)... system load seems to be at 120, which is a bit high... a lot of www git-remote-https procs jamming it all up :/ |
| 13:15.26 | Amitoj | ok thanks |
| 13:18.46 | ``Erik | brlcad, starseeker: issue started monday evening (ls -ltr /var/mail/), not sure if the insane load (which is somehow related to https://code.google.com/p/soc/) is the cause of the mta issue |
| 13:33.17 | ``Erik | "sendmail: rejecting connections on daemon MSA: load average: 104 (sendmail)" so I'd imagine those git processes to the gsoc thing are the culprit |
| 13:33.37 | ``Erik | goes whacky with his doom][ pid shotgun |
| 13:38.16 | ``Erik | yup, the mail is flowing now |
| 13:42.15 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Vaibhavgupta495 * 0 /wiki/User:Vaibhavgupta495: |
| 13:42.15 | ``Erik | heh, wasn't a notify problem for once, was a cascade error started by someones web git thingymajigger :D |
| 13:42.40 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 59839 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/bitv.c: use all capitals for NULL |
| 13:42.42 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59816 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/vls.c: always false |
| 13:42.46 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59815 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/CMakeLists.txt: Tell CMake about bitv-tests.cmake |
| 13:43.10 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59841 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: Make a note to check out solid_replica in AP214 |
| 13:43.22 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59838 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: update some more file references |
| 13:43.31 | ``Erik | heh http://freecode.com/articles/stop-the-autoconf-insanity-why-we-need-a-new-build-system |
| 13:44.17 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59824 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: A few tweaks and notes |
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| 13:44.26 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59837 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: update some file references |
| 13:44.32 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59836 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: Walk over region trees |
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| 13:44.45 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59833 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/magic.c brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/xxx/xxx.c brlcad/trunk/src/librt/primitives/xxx/xxx.h): Fix references and includes for magic.h in src |
| 13:44.50 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59825 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/vls.c): note that the input to bu_vls_substr() is const. also, make the return pointer from bu_vls_cstr() return const, distinguishing it from bu_vls_addr() so we can weed out those few places that write to the memory (instead of making a copy) while callers are migrated. |
| 13:44.54 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59842 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_vls_vprintf.c): add two new tests to prove revision 58221 and disprove its reversion at revision 58231 |
| 13:45.10 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:r_weiss * 59819 (brlcad/trunk/src/util/bw-ps.c brlcad/trunk/src/util/bwhisteq.c brlcad/trunk/src/util/pix-ps.c): Improve fixes to quieting windows build warnings. |
| 13:45.16 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59831 (brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/tests/bn_poly_add.c brlcad/trunk/src/libbn/tests/bn_poly_cubic_roots.c and 5 others): don't include magic.h explicitly |
| 13:45.19 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59834 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/magic.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Consolidate other magic header stuff into bu/magic.h |
| 13:45.31 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59820 brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp: Rework the 'check for problem objects' logic a bit more |
| 13:45.36 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59818 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_bitv.c: make tests a little easier to interpret |
| 13:45.39 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59826 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Set up bu include dir |
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| 13:45.48 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59829 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Break out vlb |
| 13:45.52 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59840 (brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/AP214e3.h brlcad/trunk/src/conv/step/g-ap214/Add_Tree.cpp and 7 others): Explose the manifold_solid_brep as well - will need it for boolean_result |
| 13:45.54 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59817 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/CMakeLists.txt: split bu_vls tests into an include file for ease of maintenance |
| 13:45.56 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59830 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Break conversion code into cv.h |
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| 13:46.01 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59835 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Break out bitv from libbu |
| 13:46.03 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59828 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Break list code out into list.h |
| 13:46.05 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59827 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Break avs and vls out into individual .h files |
| 13:56.05 | brlcad | starseeker: the only danger with that approach is that a header might happen to work if another header precedes it ... but then it still might not be properly encapsulated itself |
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| 13:57.35 | mpictor | starseeker: pretty sure they are BRep only. IIRC, SALOME only converts to mesh immediately before running an FEA tool. |
| 13:58.14 | brlcad | having those kinds of issues biting us post-release are usually a little costly to deal with |
| 13:58.30 | ``Erik | brlcad: can you verify that I'm not talking out my arse with https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7224208 ? the build did work and the equipment is what I said? |
| 13:59.26 | brlcad | _caleb: also note that our project ideas page is going to change, get updated with a few more ideas |
| 13:59.37 | brlcad | a few completed ones will go away |
| 14:00.35 | _caleb | ok! so when will the new ideas be posted? |
| 14:02.17 | ``Erik | _caleb: you can propose new ideas, or you can tell us what kinds of things you're interested in and we can come up with ideas together :) |
| 14:02.33 | brlcad | ``Erik: ahhh, huh -- that might be maths22 GCI interface |
| 14:03.46 | ``Erik | brlcad: I did some kill fu on quite a few of them, but that's a temporary fix and the issue will return... |
| 14:05.33 | brlcad | ``Erik: close enough on the write-up |
| 14:06.00 | brlcad | cmake did run cleanly |
| 14:06.18 | ``Erik | the build didn't work? |
| 14:06.49 | brlcad | yeah sources were another issue, mostly our C++ code using features that gcc 2.95 didn't support |
| 14:07.08 | brlcad | code in src/other at that (re2c for example) |
| 14:08.14 | ``Erik | ah, hardly an issue with cmake, *shrug* the counterpoint is undamaged, I think *shrug* :) |
| 14:08.23 | brlcad | still have to try mipspro with stl installed and gcc3.3 |
| 14:08.34 | brlcad | suspect both will work mostly fine |
| 14:08.45 | brlcad | also, I think it's a 200mhz |
| 14:09.05 | ``Erik | heh, tegtmeyers obj parser would probably stop 99% of "old" systems :) |
| 14:10.31 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59843 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/vls_vprintf.c: revert r58231 (unreverting r58221) because it's wrong on many levels. this is inside a %s, it's a width specifier, not octal, not hex, specifying zero-padding. tom was right, just read the number. |
| 14:10.48 | ``Erik | the gsoc git www issue is something we should look at immediately, though... imho |
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| 15:59.50 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59844 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_vls_vprintf.c: retain the test, but comment no longer necessary |
| 16:01.00 | brlcad | maths22: do you know where git-remote-https is coming from? |
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| 16:31.43 | starseeker | brlcad: so we need a manual review, or is there an automated tool I can/should be using to confirm encapsulation? |
| 16:38.08 | starseeker | mpictor: I don't suppose the boolean bits in SALOME could be made into a small independent library? |
| 16:38.50 | brlcad | basks in the awesomeness that is dtruss |
| 16:39.07 | brlcad | starseeker: the compiler will tell you to some extent |
| 16:40.45 | brlcad | try: cd include/bu ; gcc -dP defines.h |
| 16:41.03 | brlcad | that will succeed, then try vls.h |
| 16:41.17 | brlcad | you'll get a .gch (precompiled header) if it passes |
| 16:41.55 | brlcad | it's a little more complex if the header refers to headers in other dirs (avoid that for now) |
| 16:42.18 | brlcad | but you will probably need -I.. to get common.h |
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| 16:44.04 | starseeker | brlcad: ok. Part of it is just that I hadn't moved a few things to defines.h that I knew needed to be moved. Let me do that quick, then I'll see what's still busted |
| 16:44.30 | brlcad | that frankly might make a good gsoc project, not as easy as it seems |
| 16:45.23 | starseeker | brlcad: even if we can't yet assert that headers in subdirs are 'stand alone' and everybody needs to still use bu.h for everything, the readibility improvement is a win |
| 16:47.51 | ``Erik | heh, dtruss? a dtrace variant of the old school bsd truss? :) |
| 16:48.42 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59846 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/defines.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Put more of the common definions that should be in defines.h into defines.h |
| 16:54.59 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59847 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/defines.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Move genptr_t definition to bu/defines.h - part of me is include to just remove this, since it was deprecated back in 7.16, but one thing at a time. |
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| 17:26.54 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59848 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/avs.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu/bitv.h and 5 others): Using the gcc -dP test Sean suggested, make sure all the headers have what they need to be self contained. I don't think we want to use bio.h here (at a minimum, a definition of pipe in librt's pipe.c conflicts when it is used) but need to make sure. |
| 17:27.15 | starseeker | brlcad: I get gch files for all of the bu headers now |
| 17:29.39 | starseeker | search.h in rt will take a little more time - need to split out bu/ptbl.h and rt_wdb at a minimum, |
| 17:30.11 | starseeker | unless I go ahead and include all of bu.h in the rt sub-headers, which I'm guessing is not ideal |
| 17:32.41 | starseeker | brlcad: that gch file thing might be a nifty regression test to add, unless it's too compiler specific for you to want to include it |
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| 17:44.13 | starseeker | looks like the clang version would be clang -I.. -dP -Qunused-arguments |
| 17:44.23 | starseeker | vs gcc -I.. -dP |
| 17:44.32 | starseeker | both generate a gch file |
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| 19:11.57 | brlcad | starseeker: looking better .. though "stdio.h" isn't right |
| 19:12.07 | brlcad | sys headers are always <> |
| 19:12.22 | brlcad | and we don't need bio.h for just FILE |
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| 19:55.42 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59849 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/bu_vls_vprintf.c: change test 66 to one that is POSIX defined; use CTEST_* macros to clarify test results |
| 20:08.59 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59850 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/vlb.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu/vls.h): Fix stdio include and comment - definitely not using bio.h for this |
| 20:12.09 | mpictor | starseeker: I don't know but I think I know a couple people who can give an answer |
| 20:22.07 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59851 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/CMakeLists.txt: simplify adding vls_vprintf tests (could do others easily if we remove comments) |
| 20:42.09 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59852 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/avs.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu/bitv.h and 3 others): Make sure magic numbers are available. |
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| 20:43.06 | brlcad | they all use magic? |
| 20:46.07 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 59854 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/CMakeLists.txt: ignoring non-existent file |
| 20:47.48 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59855 brlcad/trunk/include/rt/search.h: Add a few basics to search.h - need struct rt_wdb, struct db_i and struct directory broken out |
| 20:51.09 | brlcad | starseeker: I think we can cleanly get away with just "dir/header.h" instead of relative paths since we already search our include dir |
| 20:51.33 | starseeker | brlcad: rt_wdb and db_i both reference each other - how do I break them out? |
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| 20:51.34 | brlcad | simplifies things a little bit and avoids implicitly requiring them to reside next to each other |
| 20:52.44 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59856 brlcad/trunk/include/rt/search.h: Don't do relative parent path for bu headers. |
| 20:54.18 | starseeker | brlcad: fixed |
| 20:54.51 | starseeker | (good point about not requiring relative locations) |
| 20:55.03 | starseeker | bbiab |
| 21:13.52 | brlcad | same for defines.h |
| 21:23.03 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:tbrowder2 * 59857 brlcad/trunk/src/libbu/tests/CMakeLists.txt: go ahead and simplify other tests (the test source files also have the comments so they shouldn't be missed) |
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| 22:13.36 | n_reed | http://www.chrisj.com.au/ |
| 22:13.59 | starseeker | brlcad: for defines.h - don't we want to make sure libbu is getting the libbu defines.h and not the librt version? |
| 22:14.14 | starseeker | or should we use a prefix, e.g. bu_defines.h? |
| 22:18.11 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59858 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/avs.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu/bitv.h and 6 others): Use bu_defines rather than a generic 'defines.h' for clarity. |
| 22:19.01 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59859 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu/bu_defines.h): Update cmake and header |
| 22:19.33 | starseeker | sees he needs to build up to librt - will need a lot of libbu and libbn stuff |
| 22:21.41 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59860 brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h: Don't forget bu.h |
| 22:25.12 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59861 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu/avs.h and 9 others): Actually, given the right include path, the directory *is* the prefix. revert, try again... |
| 22:29.04 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59862 (brlcad/trunk/include/bu/avs.h brlcad/trunk/include/bu/bitv.h and 6 others): There we go - just use the dir prefix at all times. |
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| 23:35.48 | starseeker | humph. tetgen finally opted to adopt a standard open source license, and went with the Affero GPLv3 |