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| 02:10.06 | ignacio|sleep | back tomorrow |
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| 02:34.15 | maths22 | I will kill it: I didn't realize it might be a problem |
| 02:35.28 | maths22 | I was messing with fisheye, and I forgot to take it out |
| 02:35.42 | maths22 | Done |
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| 03:14.04 | maths22 | are the irc issues on freenode's end or on ours |
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| 03:47.46 | brlcad | maths22: not seeing any issues here, so more than likely a particular freenode node |
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| 04:07.37 | brlcad | maths22: any progress on the website? |
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| 14:13.32 | kesha | Hi brlcad |
| 14:13.35 | kesha | LTNS |
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| 14:53.10 | ignacio|here | Good bye Gcibot :'( |
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| 16:24.16 | brlcad | hi kesha |
| 16:24.26 | brlcad | ignacio|here: thanks for running it |
| 16:24.31 | brlcad | ignacio|here: you applying for gsoc? |
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| 17:47.55 | ignacio|here | hey brlcad |
| 17:48.07 | ignacio|here | brlcad, is a org in gsoc? |
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| 17:51.46 | ignacio|here | yeah i see |
| 17:51.47 | ignacio|here | xD |
| 17:55.56 | brlcad | ignacio|here: for many years running |
| 17:56.11 | brlcad | that list is not yet updated for this year |
| 17:56.25 | brlcad | some is the same, some different |
| 18:01.17 | ignacio|here | cool |
| 18:01.29 | ignacio|here | I need wait few gci's for be a gsoc student :P |
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| 18:05.37 | brlcad | ignacio|here: ah excellent then, maybe we can get you for gci next year then :) |
| 18:05.40 | brlcad | hi trailhand |
| 18:05.50 | ignacio|here | brlcad, yay! |
| 18:05.53 | ignacio|here | I need to learn about it |
| 18:06.04 | ignacio|here | btw, the source are > 800mb! |
| 18:06.25 | brlcad | not the last time I checked |
| 18:06.32 | brlcad | compiled sources are |
| 18:07.04 | ignacio|here | But |
| 18:07.06 | brlcad | a single checkout should be less |
| 18:07.15 | ignacio|here | as I see |
| 18:07.18 | ignacio|here | the tasks are for program things no? |
| 18:07.53 | brlcad | what do you mean? |
| 18:07.57 | brlcad | gsoc? |
| 18:08.12 | brlcad | gsoc is all about programming, writing code |
| 18:08.38 | trailhand | [non gsoc related] Hello, can BRL-CAD do distributed ray tracing using CUDA? |
| 18:08.38 | ignacio|here | brlcad, about gci :P |
| 18:08.48 | brlcad | unlike gci in that regard, no design doc outreach etc tasks |
| 18:09.07 | brlcad | our gci tasks spanned the gamut |
| 18:09.12 | ignacio|here | col |
| 18:09.14 | ignacio|here | *cool |
| 18:09.36 | ignacio|here | try to download brl cad |
| 18:09.45 | brlcad | web work, testing, modeling, writing, blogging, graphics, design, coding, artwork |
| 18:10.24 | brlcad | trailhand: short answer: no |
| 18:10.26 | ignacio|here | 15 mins for download Brl Cad |
| 18:10.26 | ignacio|here | haha |
| 18:11.23 | brlcad | trailhand: I'm much more a fan of OpenCL for a variety of reasons, but not opposed to CUDA |
| 18:12.10 | trailhand | @brlcad, I like OpenCL better too, but might have a chance to do it in CUDA, then later OpenCL |
| 18:12.11 | brlcad | trailhand: we do have an experimental opencl branch that implements some basic infrastructure |
| 18:13.14 | brlcad | working for our ellipsoid shapes, and basically grunt work to convert some others |
| 18:13.41 | brlcad | big effort to convert all of our 24+ entities |
| 18:13.53 | brlcad | trailhand: a chance to do what? |
| 18:15.00 | trailhand | @brlcad, "chance" meaning funding via a university, still working on the details--the funding is for CUDA |
| 18:15.23 | brlcad | also speaking of gsoc, we'll almost certainly have an opencl gsoc project |
| 18:16.15 | brlcad | trailhand: that's cool, which U.? |
| 18:16.28 | trailhand | @brlcad, Wichita State |
| 18:16.51 | brlcad | well let me know how/if I can help |
| 18:17.33 | brlcad | ideally, any infrastructure implemented would be sufficiently abstracted without hurting performance and letting us leverage cuda or opencl accordingly |
| 18:18.17 | trailhand | @brlcad, well I'm learning CUDA and OpenCL, but I'm pretty good at BRL-CAD internals |
| 18:18.43 | trailhand | and I would be willing to mentor a GSOC student when I can |
| 18:20.40 | trailhand | By the way I announced our "Tovero" BRL-CAD DSL on the devel mailing list but didn't seem to be much interest |
| 18:21.24 | trailhand | and abstraction of parallel processing architecture is a really good idea |
| 18:25.06 | brlcad | trailhand: don't take mailing list response as a lack of interest! |
| 18:25.55 | trailhand | @brlcad, I know--I didn't phrase my posting in the form of a question ;) |
| 18:25.57 | brlcad | responses are often conversely proportional to interests -- harder questions take more time to respond to and fewer people are qualified to answer |
| 18:26.05 | brlcad | that also helps ;) |
| 18:26.47 | brlcad | I guarantee that your message is in my reply queue |
| 18:26.48 | maths22 | brlcad: I started with the header work, but I won't really have time until my robotics tournament happens next week |
| 18:27.38 | brlcad | maths22: everything committed that you worked on? I might be in that area over the weekend as we're getting ready for gsoc |
| 18:27.50 | brlcad | don't want to stomp on anything you've done |
| 18:27.58 | ignacio|here | *chan chan* |
| 18:28.01 | ignacio|here | ignacio@estudiante-laptop:~/Descargas$ sudo dpkg -i brlcad_7.24.0-0_i386.deb |
| 18:28.08 | maths22 | not yet. I'll try to do that today, but I was having a bit of trouble with it |
| 18:28.30 | maths22 | I had problems setting the necessary properties on all the files |
| 18:28.32 | brlcad | ignacio|here: looks like current checkout is about 700mb (oof, we've gotten bigger or svn files have gotten bigger or both) |
| 18:28.43 | brlcad | ~cadsvn |
| 18:28.43 | infobot | To obtain BRL-CAD from Subversion: svn checkout https://svn.code.sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/brlcad/trunk brlcad |
| 18:29.09 | ignacio|here | ouch |
| 18:29.18 | ignacio|here | brlcad, How I can start brlcad? |
| 18:29.21 | ignacio|here | I installed the package |
| 18:29.32 | ignacio|here | ooooh, this have a menu in the apps menu |
| 18:29.32 | ignacio|here | xD |
| 18:29.43 | brlcad | yeah, the linux maintainer is pretty swank |
| 18:29.55 | brlcad | he set up menus, icons, double-click, .. |
| 18:30.51 | ignacio|here | how works brlcad |
| 18:30.52 | brlcad | trailhand: on the surface what's needed is more restructuring how rays our fired within our application front-end and tracking the data differently in the API (so we can bundle coherently) |
| 18:30.53 | ignacio|here | idk D: |
| 18:31.29 | brlcad | ignacio|here: brl-cad is NOT easy to just browse and "figure out" .. it usually takes training and tutorials |
| 18:31.53 | ignacio|here | I think this have a interface like blender :( |
| 18:32.08 | brlcad | it's also a big system, so it's really easy to get lost |
| 18:32.18 | brlcad | ignacio|here: we're changing everything |
| 18:32.34 | ignacio|here | D: |
| 18:32.39 | brlcad | you could lead up a project to make it better, once you know what's what |
| 18:32.53 | brlcad | so a couple things to check out, I assume you ran mged |
| 18:33.00 | brlcad | that's the old workhorse |
| 18:33.51 | brlcad | EXTREMELY powerful and flexible, but probably one of the hardest interfaces you'll ever encounter .. we make emacs look easy |
| 18:33.57 | trailhand | @brlcad, I will look more at your experimental OpenCL branch. I have a meeting tomorrow about the project. |
| 18:34.22 | trailhand | [for the record] I like mged |
| 18:34.28 | brlcad | ignacio|here: there's a newer interface in alpha status called "archer" that is a little better, should look more familiar and is a lot easier but still has huge room for improvement |
| 18:34.40 | ignacio|here | how I can install it |
| 18:34.54 | brlcad | ignacio|here: we have a third inteface in a design / requirements phase that is being built on Qt |
| 18:35.24 | brlcad | I like mged too, but I remember learning it 15+ years ago and really have a hard time with learning it |
| 18:35.36 | ignacio|here | :o |
| 18:35.37 | brlcad | especially knowing other modeling software, it's unlike anything else |
| 18:35.51 | brlcad | you have to go through the tutorials |
| 18:36.44 | brlcad | ignacio|here: here are 400+ pages of tutorials that just touch on the basics of mged: http://brlcad.org/w/images/c/cf/Introduction_to_MGED.pdf |
| 18:37.03 | brlcad | suggest going through at least one or two of them |
| 18:37.27 | brlcad | (going through all of them can be done in less than a day) |
| 18:37.57 | brlcad | ignacio|here: for installing: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Compiling |
| 18:38.00 | ignacio|here | brlcad, thx! |
| 18:38.51 | ignacio|here | I downloaded the de |
| 18:39.11 | ignacio|here | *deb |
| 18:39.55 | ignacio|here | brlcad, what is "mged"? |
| 18:41.51 | brlcad | Multi-Device Geometry Editor (MGED) |
| 18:42.55 | brlcad | that third generation interface I mentioned will just be called "brlcad" or "BRL-CAD" |
| 18:43.17 | brlcad | ignacio|here: BRL-CAD is really a suite of 400 tools... mged is just one of them |
| 18:44.04 | brlcad | there are geometry converters, image converters, various processing tools, rendering tools, modeling tools, ... |
| 18:44.10 | ignacio|here | but |
| 18:44.16 | ignacio|here | mged have a graphical interface? |
| 18:44.19 | ignacio|here | I start it and do nothing |
| 18:44.35 | brlcad | hm? |
| 18:44.43 | brlcad | yes, mged has a graphical interface |
| 18:44.54 | brlcad | didn't start? |
| 18:44.56 | ignacio|here | This didn't start anything in my laptop |
| 18:45.05 | ignacio|here | this open a terminal |
| 18:45.07 | ignacio|here | but nothing more |
| 18:45.21 | brlcad | huh, that sounds like a bug .. what's in the terminal? |
| 18:45.44 | ignacio|here | nothing |
| 18:45.48 | brlcad | this would be something for the linux maintainer, he makes that .deb |
| 18:45.59 | brlcad | not even a command prompt? |
| 18:47.20 | brlcad | I still suggest compiling from source and running that |
| 18:48.05 | trailhand | @brlcad, I have to get back to work or my boss will dock my pay, but I'll come back here later when I know more. Bye. |
| 18:48.53 | ignacio|here | brlcad, I'll try to run mged in terminal |
| 18:52.29 | ignacio|here | brlcad, it start from terminal and no from launcher |
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| 18:56.03 | brlcad | ignacio|here: so something in the launcher has changed or something in mged has changed |
| 18:56.10 | brlcad | either way, that should be trivial to fix :) |
| 18:56.20 | brlcad | that's gci-scope ;) |
| 18:56.26 | ignacio|here | :) |
| 18:56.31 | ignacio|here | i think if you remove %f |
| 18:56.32 | ignacio|here | its works |
| 18:56.52 | brlcad | that's probably so you can drop a .g file on it and have it open it |
| 18:57.11 | brlcad | or maybe needed for double-click |
| 18:57.44 | ignacio|here | :$ |
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| 20:43.30 | starseeker | considers researching what a heated driveway would cost... |
| 20:45.47 | starseeker | that's pretty cool: http://brlcad.org/~starseeker/brlcad-doxygen-r59869/d7/db1/bool_8c.xhtml |
| 20:46.10 | starseeker | the svg viewer actually makes the graphviz outputs useful |
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| 21:23.40 | andromeda-galaxy | I participated in the recent GCI session and was granted commit access for some of my work, so I want to work more on BRL-CAD. Unfortunately, I have been really busy with schoolwork for the past month and have not had a chance to work on BRL-CAD at all. I was wondering if anyone hade a particular project for BRL-CAD that I could help with, as I am not sure what would be useful for me to do right now... |
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| 21:36.14 | brlcad | andromeda-galaxy: hi! |
| 21:36.33 | brlcad | andromeda-galaxy: absolutely .. what interests you? |
| 21:36.57 | starseeker | andromeda-galaxy: know anything about doxygen? :-P |
| 21:37.00 | brlcad | you certainly earned your commit status (for some that takes years to achieve), so glad to hear you're taking advantage of it |
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| 22:23.06 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: I can't think of a particular part that interests me more than the rest of work on BRL-CAD; I was wondering if you had a particular initiave that I could help with... |
| 22:23.24 | andromeda-galaxy | starseeker: a little... |
| 22:40.19 | andromeda-galaxy | brlcad: one thing that I can think of now specifically is the idea of factoring most of the TCL/TK code out into a separate module so that BRL-CAD could theoretically operate using an interface other than TK. Would that be of any interest to anyone else? |
| 22:40.20 | ``Erik | starseeker: heated driveway might be the least optimal approach... a small frontloader or a plow for your truck might do better ... (or just drive the truck over it if you're willing to feel a bit offroady.. drove mine out of the driveway in 2wd, but then had to go shovel it for erin's car, so'z now I have a dead arm) |
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| 22:55.41 | ``Erik | (or go missoura style, put some 2.5ton axles on the truck and get some pulling tires and rims *cough*) |
| 22:57.42 | ``Erik | http://www.racingjunk.com/Tires/182137169/DICK-CEPEK-GIANT-PULLERS.html aw yeah, hillbilly to the max :D |
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| 23:22.19 | pulkitiiit | Hi, I was installing BRL-CAD on my Linux machine and when i entered the command make test there were 10 errors. As mentioned in Compiling page to do "make > build.log 2>&1" next I did that and saw the complete build.log and there was no error. What should i do? |
| 23:23.53 | andromed` | pulkitiiit: make test just runs the tests for BRL-CAD commands and libraries (after BRL-CAD is compiled); some of the tests fail currently, since during GCI many tests were added but failures weren't necessarily fixed. |
| 23:26.45 | pulkitiiit | Ok. Just wanted to make sure whether i shall proceed further or not. Thanks |
| 23:27.19 | andromed` | pulkitiiit: you're welcome |
| 23:31.33 | pulkitiiit | Can you provide me some resource using whick i can build my first quick project. |
| 23:32.52 | andromed` | pulkitiiit: for building BRL-CAD the wiki/Compiling and wiki/Bulding_from_SVN pages are very good; if you just mean a reference for build tools in general I'm afraid I can't help you there apart from pointing you to the GCC manual |
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| 23:37.02 | pulkitiiit | I just wanted to know how to run BRL-CAD . How to test the changes i have made and all other prior knowledge. Ok, I will first read the documentation provided. |
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| 23:39.18 | andromed` | pulkitiiit: The short answer to that is that you can run most of the BRL-CAD libraries out of the build directory, i.e. build/bin/archer or build/bin/mged; there is lots more documentation on the wiki --- for starters, see the Quick Test section on the Compiling page |
| 23:39.33 | andromed` | but you can install into a central directory and put the executables in $PATH you want |
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| 23:55.11 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59879 (brlcad/trunk/include/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/include/bu.h): Break malloc out from bu.h |