IRC log for #brlcad on 20140224

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00:54.03 *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || GCI winners: Jacob Burroughs and Peter Amidon! Thanks to all of our participants for the awesome work; stay in touch! || We're applying to GSoC 2014
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06:39.08 brlcad freenode is getting DDoS of late
07:06.50 zxq9 Yeah, some folks are over on oftc.net talking about it.
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16:48.10 *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || GCI winners: Jacob Burroughs and Peter Amidon! Thanks to all of our participants for the awesome work; stay in touch! || We're applying to GSoC 2014
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16:55.14 *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || GCI winners: Jacob Burroughs and Peter Amidon! Thanks to all of our participants for the awesome work; stay in touch! || We're applying to GSoC 2014
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17:16.18 *** topic/#brlcad is BRL-CAD || http://brlcad.org || logs: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23brlcad/ || GCI winners: Jacob Burroughs and Peter Amidon! Thanks to all of our participants for the awesome work; stay in touch! || We're applying to GSoC 2014
17:31.23 brlcad ``Erik_: notify silent
17:32.30 brlcad also, may have been used for ntp amplification attack (I assume given cpu usage), but I squashed it (disable monitor in conf)
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18:45.36 brlcad unfracking believable
18:45.52 brlcad brlcad.org's ISP is currently unreachable
18:52.44 brlcad right as gsoc goes live too
18:52.48 ``Erik traceroute from home is giving a routing problem in baltimore
18:52.56 ``Erik on the verizon network, looks like
18:53.05 brlcad can you reach sagonet.com?
18:53.45 ``Erik no, it wedges up on verizons baltimore area
18:53.55 brlcad I tried two different nets
18:54.55 brlcad wonders if anyone can get to brlcad.org?
18:55.34 brlcad http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/brlcad.org says everyone...
18:57.07 brlcad maybe should put up a "sorry but our isp just asploded" page somewhere
18:57.22 ``Erik quick redirect to an s3 static image?
18:57.48 ``Erik or a little heroku or wordpress.com dealie?
18:57.54 brlcad s3?
18:58.01 ``Erik http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/dev/WebsiteHosting.html
18:58.05 brlcad ah
18:58.33 ``Erik (still have the server in germany?)
18:58.45 brlcad no, that was shut down a couple years ago now
18:59.10 brlcad I don't have a live mirror running, but do have a backup
18:59.32 brlcad so I could have the site back up but as widespread an outage as this seems, it "should" get fixed quickly I would have thought
19:00.21 ``Erik wordpress can probably get a trivial "technical difficulties" page in a matter of minutes, but will have the wordpress decorations and might have issues with host name type stuff... heroku is designed for dynamic pages and would probably take a little more work (very geared towards ruby on rails startups)
19:01.24 ``Erik and s3 will be a year of trivial utilization for free, then pay as you go... I used to think of them as "simply there", but Colin has been reporting quite a few service issues for his 'tarsnap' service
19:02.13 brlcad I can put up a simple html page in a few minutes, but am more concerned that our ideas list isn't up
19:02.22 ``Erik of course, with comcast business or something at home, crank up your own temporary server :)
19:03.20 ``Erik hm, maybe import into a google docs and make it publically viewable?
19:04.38 ``Erik you're talking about the orange static ideas page you can easily (if not quickly) pull from the dump, not a database stored wiki page, right?
19:07.00 ``Erik looks like my analytics stopped between 1200 and 1300, several users pinging out at 1303
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19:08.39 kesha_ Congratulations BRL-CAD !! :)
19:09.55 brlcad thanks kesha_
19:10.22 kesha_ Hi Sean ..
19:11.02 kesha_ A task has been pending in our ToDo list from a long time .. ;)
19:11.53 ``Erik brlcad: http://paste.lisp.org/display/141352
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19:12.36 Kunda hey congrads for your GSoC 2014 acceptance
19:12.44 Kunda your website is down btw
19:12.46 brlcad Kunda: thanks!
19:12.49 brlcad we know
19:12.59 brlcad it's not the website, it's the entire ISP
19:13.06 Kunda yikes
19:13.24 brlcad there's some major outage going on, because they're one of the largest hosting providers
19:13.36 Kunda who is it ?
19:15.50 ishwerdas brlcad: I can set up a html page, also I have a copy of whole Deuces page at my local, will that help?
19:16.18 ishwerdas and getting started with gsoc page too.
19:16.30 ``Erik brlcad: their twitter was last updated on feb17
19:18.13 ishwerdas I also happen to have GSOC 2012 page
19:19.29 ``Erik their facebook was dec14 (and the reviews are not exactly glowing), https://www.facebook.com/sagonet
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19:29.13 brlcad ishwerdas: if you have an up-to-date copy of the ideas page, that would be fantastic, but the deuces page won't help much
19:29.30 brlcad the last backup on archive.org is too old
19:30.17 brlcad i just put up a quick "we're experiencing shit" page linked through our melange profile
19:30.22 brlcad just to let folks know what's up
19:30.48 brlcad ishwerdas: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas is the one I need a cached copy of
19:32.02 ``Erik I find it kinda weird that traceroutes from two seperate networks both fail before getting anywhere close :/ be almost amusing of someone forgot to mail the iana check to icann :)
19:32.52 ishwerdas No, I don't have the Ideas page. :( GSOC page, Deuces and GSOC 2012 page
19:33.03 ishwerdas google cache shows page as it appeared on 14th feb
19:33.18 brlcad oh, that might work
19:33.42 brlcad yeah, that'll do
19:33.43 ``Erik ooh, goog cache, good idea, ishwerdas :)
19:33.46 brlcad oof
19:33.57 ishwerdas \m/
19:35.20 ishwerdas http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas
19:35.44 brlcad yep, already got it
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19:41.23 Kunda you guys have serious ideas page..very nice
19:41.28 Kunda well done
19:41.41 ishwerdas agreed
19:44.36 ishwerdas I don't see any project concerning OGV though :(
19:53.01 brlcad ishwerdas: the full set of project ideas isn't in the cached version either
19:53.28 brlcad it was set to go live around the same time as the announcement, but have been dealing with this … issue
19:53.46 ishwerdas oh!
19:54.35 ishwerdas we can make this one live until we get the latest version
20:01.09 brlcad i've updated the page it links to, simplified cached version
20:01.18 brlcad can someone check and make sure it renders okay?
20:01.35 brlcad unflecking believable that it's still down
20:02.20 ishwerdas checking
20:03.36 ishwerdas It renders fine Phew!
20:04.12 ishwerdas No projects under LibreCAD and OpenSCAD
20:04.23 ishwerdas Checked LibreCAD website, nothing there too
20:05.02 ishwerdas OpenSCAD have the Ideas page at github https://github.com/openscad/openscad/wiki/Ideas%3A-GSoC-2014
20:10.25 brlcad took care of the dead project links (I'm not downloading and fixing 100 sub-pages just yet)
20:10.41 ishwerdas :P
20:13.06 ishwerdas we can add a link to OpenSCAD Ideas page at github, won't take much time.
20:13.25 ishwerdas Tell me, if I can be of some use.
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20:23.32 brlcad it already links to openscad's github in two places
20:24.05 brlcad stubbed in the sections for all three umbrella orgs
20:28.10 ishwerdas great!
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21:14.56 brlcad so are any gsoc candidates thinking about projects yet?
21:36.09 javampire brlcad: hi Sean, is python-brlcad counting ? :-)
21:37.45 javampire kanzure: I added wrapper for sketch primitive, would be happy for feed-back...
21:37.51 kanzure none
21:37.54 kanzure it is merged
21:38.02 javampire wow
21:38.11 kanzure ?
21:38.15 kanzure i am on the phone, but it looked like okay code
21:38.20 kanzure is there something i missed?
21:38.26 javampire ok, thanks...
21:38.39 javampire nope, I'm just simply still learning python :-)
21:38.47 javampire so I'm never sure it's all OK
21:39.09 javampire I will go and add then extrude and revolve
21:40.48 javampire kanzure: I would actually like to get some feedback regarding running the test cases in the tests directory, to be sure there's nothing implemented in a specific way that only works on my environment
21:41.19 kanzure nosetests or py.test would be the place to start
21:41.31 javampire nosetests gives me lots of errors
21:41.39 javampire regarding imports
21:41.53 javampire it can't find the _bindings thing
21:42.28 javampire but I'm able to runt the tests, that's not what I meant - I would like you to run them so it is a different environment than mine
21:43.19 javampire point is that ctypes has lots of machine specific code and I want to be sure it works everywhere
21:44.33 brlcad javampire: sure ;)
21:45.07 javampire brlcad: well then I could come up with some tasks there, if that would be of interest
21:45.23 brlcad kanzure: if you have an idea for a gsoc project that propels python-brlcad to the next level, all for it
21:45.30 brlcad just need a brief description
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21:45.50 brlcad oh sago is back!
21:45.52 kanzure brlcad: of python-brlcad or of a python-brlcad subtask?
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22:25.47 starseeker huh - cool: http://code.google.com/p/boar/
22:28.51 starseeker https://github.com/yorikvanhavre/FreeCAD-library
22:29.03 starseeker mmm step files
22:40.26 kanzure brlcad: various python-brlcad subtasks include: setting up circle-ci.org (continuous integration testing) for windows and linux for incoming pull requests; improving or writing tests; making a small repl (something that uses ipython but also renders an image of whatever shape you're constructing); general examples/demos of using python-brlcad (translation of previous brlcad examples, probably)
22:57.40 javampire brlcad: running the rt equivalent directly from python and display the result (this mostly involves discovering and wrapping the ray-trace related part of librt); investigate what it would need to set up and use libged from python (this one is fairly difficult)
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23:17.29 javampire hmm, looks like nurb segments are not supported for extruding ?
23:18.05 javampire I could create sketch with nurb segment, but if I extrude it and try to ray-trace, I get:
23:18.06 javampire ERROR: rt_extrude_shot: unrecognized segment type in solid
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23:27.06 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 59935 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-osg.cpp: remove trailing blank/tab
23:27.22 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:190.9.171.121 * 6447 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Project_Ideas: /* LibreCAD Projects */
23:27.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 59936 (brlcad/trunk/AUTHORS brlcad/trunk/NEWS): fixed a bug that's been in rtweight since it was introduced in 1991, noticed and reported on brlcad-devel by Daniel Hyams. credit with special thanks for reporting such an old issue.
23:27.43 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Sean * 6448 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2013:
23:27.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Sean * 6449 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2013:
23:27.49 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Sean * 6450 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code: 2013 summary
23:27.51 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Sean * 6451 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code: 2014
23:27.55 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Sean * 6452 /wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2014: stub in 2014
23:28.00 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59938 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-osg.cpp: Use the matrix as defined in dm-ogl.c (with the dmp->dm_aspect multiplication)
23:28.08 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59940 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-osg.cpp: aspect ratio in the matrix causes rotation distortion in this configuration, and x/y aren't const in this application. Resizing the window in ortho seems to be working now.
23:28.15 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59939 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-osg.cpp: Activate window reshaping, try to use only Tk api for window sizes for portability.
23:28.17 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 59937 brlcad/trunk/include/raytrace.h: Gah - TIE global variables. Do we need to send these through deprecation?
23:37.07 javampire OK, I can confirm by looking into the code that NURB segments in a sketch are not supported for ray tracing
23:37.22 javampire I mean in an extrusion primitive
23:38.38 javampire brlcad: fixing that could be an interesting GSOC task
23:40.06 javampire also: editing in mged a sketch with NURB segment will delete that segment when you save
23:40.42 javampire it is clear that the editor does not support it for editing, but why not just leaving it alone instead of dropping ?
23:48.21 brlcad probably doesn't know what to do with it and it's simply lost in translation

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