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04:24.08 starseeker http://code.google.com/p/include-what-you-use/
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06:10.24 brlcad starseeker: did you run it?
06:10.28 brlcad sounds interesting
06:11.44 brlcad would have to be careful that using its hints don't undo self-encapsulation
06:13.29 brlcad like if bu.h needs stdio for FILE, and some main.c file calls bu_log and printf .. it "should" include both bu.h and stdio.h because it directly utilizes both, NOT skip stdio.h just because bu.h also needed it
06:14.08 brlcad then of course that rule is true with headers like common.h and bio.h that are meant to be replacement headers .. but it can't know that
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12:50.38 ``Erik @gitHater: if ping was designed by the git people: net-ping host --no=dns,bind --proto=TCP,rfc:492 eth0@ipv4::http://t.co/U
12:50.41 ``Erik IcBl2MN-ADDR.ARPA --stats -v
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12:57.41 ries starseeker: a good ide will also help...
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13:58.11 maths22 ``Erik: that should say net-ping host --no=dns,bind --proto=TCP,rfc:492 eth0@1.0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA --stats -v
13:58.20 maths22 twitter messing w/ urls :(
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14:19.09 ankesh11 brlcad: I shot a mail on the Mailing List a couple of days regarding the Bechmark Performance Database project. Would be great to have inputs from you.
14:24.00 ``Erik maths22: yeh, I copied it into a vim window for keeping, that split it funny... ya'll should be smart enough to figure the accidental line break ;)
14:31.45 brlcad ``Erik: hehe (git-ping)
14:33.02 brlcad ankesh11: please don't wait for open-ended inputs
14:33.08 brlcad ankesh11: did you have a specific quesiton?
14:48.16 ankesh11 brlcad : Agree. But I thought the community's perspective on this project could have been valuable. A few questions were open-ended and a few specific(types of analytics, categorization of processors, visualization framework).
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15:01.44 brlcad ankesh11: understood, point is just not to wait for it
15:02.24 brlcad that's a long and potentially very involved discussion, so having you research and propose what is interesting to you is actually more important
15:03.11 brlcad my desire is to capture *everything* into database form (which the prior work did well), have excellent import/export options, and a slick user interface (pretty graphs)
15:06.18 brlcad ankesh11: if you like, you can start your proposal on the wiki too where you can keep updating it and feedback can be ongoing
15:08.19 ankesh11 brlcad: Right. A wiki would be great. Will try to research on the import/export options and create some UI mock-ups in the meantime.
15:14.18 brlcad ankesh11: a wiki?? I don't think that would be a priority
15:14.32 brlcad what would users be editing?
15:15.48 brlcad you should really become intimately familiar with what was previously worked so that you can pick up and continue from where that effort stopped
15:21.02 ankesh11 brlcad: Okay, but I will have to create a wiki of the proposal some time soon anyways. Yes, I am getting familiar with Suryajith's repository. He has done a nice job of documenting things, so I think it should go on well.
15:23.57 ``Erik ankesh11: brlcad.org has a wiki available, you're expected to create an account on it and typically the user page for gsoc students includes a copy of the proposal as well as a "log" section. http://brlcad.org/wiki/
15:27.22 ankesh11 ``Erik: Thanks. I already created one a while back. Will put a copy of the proposal there when I am done.
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15:29.50 ``Erik cool beans, just wanted to make sure there was no confusion :)
15:30.45 ``Erik if you do your proposal with the wiki, we'll see updates and may be able to offer suggestions or guidance... early feedback can help you from spending too much effort on the wrong things
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18:04.16 andrei__ Hello
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18:56.35 raj12lnm_ javampire : hi
18:56.47 raj12lnm_ Its too late in here.
18:57.02 raj12lnm_ So i will probably try to adjust my schedule.
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18:57.15 javampire raj12lnm: Hi Raj, sorry but I can only be here at this hour :-(
18:57.27 javampire or in the weekends :-)
18:57.31 raj12lnm_ javampire its okay :)
18:57.51 javampire anyway, if you want to figure out installing it now, I can help
18:57.59 raj12lnm_ wait.
18:58.08 raj12lnm_ I will have to start my linux machine
18:58.11 javampire ok
18:58.19 raj12lnm_ can i get back to you in 5 minutes ?
19:00.00 raj12lnm_ so should i refork the directory (i mean from github python-brlcad_
19:00.06 raj12lnm_ or i can do some merge ?
19:00.19 raj12lnm_ javampire :
19:00.40 javampire you can add my fork as another remote
19:00.45 javampire just a moment
19:01.15 javampire git remote add ncsaba https://github.com/ncsaba/python-brlcad
19:01.37 javampire then you can list all branches:
19:01.54 javampire git branch -a
19:03.00 raj12lnm_ just a moment
19:03.00 javampire and then I would say you can merge my master by:
19:03.32 javampire git merge ncsaba/master
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19:04.37 javampire Bryan didn't merge it yet, but he will surely do as it is needed to work with latest dev version of BRL-CAD
19:04.47 javampire if you missed my last entry:
19:04.56 javampire git merge ncsaba/master
19:06.19 raj12lnm_ cant add this merge
19:06.45 raj12lnm_ it says fatal : 'nscaba/master' does not point to a commit
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19:07.10 raj12lnm it says this fatal: 'ncsaba/master' does not point to a commit
19:07.38 raj12lnm javampire : cant add the repository.
19:08.10 javampire you mean the "add remote" doesn't work ?
19:08.21 raj12lnm no i was able to get the list
19:08.28 raj12lnm add remote worked
19:08.31 javampire so you see my branches ?
19:08.37 javampire ah, ok, you need to do a fetch too
19:08.40 raj12lnm but later when i used merge command it gave that mesage
19:08.58 javampire git fetch --all -v
19:09.22 javampire that will fetch the repository contents
19:09.25 javampire then you can merge
19:09.52 javampire I'm also not a git expert, I learned using python-brlcad...
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19:16.14 raj12lnm indeed it is giving an error
19:16.26 raj12lnm I am not sure it is because of my system or
19:16.43 raj12lnm <PROTECTED>
19:17.01 raj12lnm javampire :
19:17.24 javampire ok, it's a typo
19:17.28 javampire pythn
19:17.32 javampire python
19:18.21 javampire try copy and paste ;-)
19:18.36 javampire but I guess now you have the remote wrong
19:18.52 raj12lnm ok.
19:18.59 raj12lnm there are lot of hassles.
19:19.03 raj12lnm i will take care of them
19:19.17 javampire http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2432764/how-to-change-a-remote-repository-uri-using-git
19:19.22 javampire to fix remote URL
19:20.37 raj12lnm ok, thanks
19:21.47 javampire let me know what fails next :-)
19:22.27 javampire this is the problem with projects in early stage, they are mostly working only on the developers environment, that's why we need more users !
19:28.18 raj12lnm javampire : It worked
19:28.32 javampire so you have it installed now ?
19:28.49 raj12lnm yes
19:29.11 javampire if so, you can try to run the test cases in the tests directory
19:29.56 javampire perhaps also setting the DEBUG_TESTS environment variable, then the .g files will not be deleted at the end of the test (see the source code)
19:30.00 raj12lnm javampire : yes i think there was some error
19:30.17 raj12lnm let me start pycharm
19:30.30 javampire paste-bin the log of the install
19:30.46 javampire there are some errors which can be ignored, others not...
19:34.25 raj12lnm javampire : http://tny.cz/e2ddb553
19:35.18 javampire it looks good Raj !
19:35.24 raj12lnm i have run python setup.py install --user 2> file.txt
19:35.24 javampire you should have it installed properly
19:35.29 raj12lnm ok
19:36.32 javampire if you push the "sync" button in PyCharm, and then try to "CTRL-(left-mouse-button)" on one of the "libwdb.*" symbols in wdb.py, you will see the result :-)
19:36.52 javampire pycharm will take you to the generated code
19:36.52 raj12lnm tests also run succesully.
19:36.56 javampire cool
19:37.05 javampire well then you're set up now !
19:37.23 raj12lnm where is the sync button ?
19:37.37 javampire CTRL-ALT-Y
19:37.49 javampire or near the upper-left corner
19:38.02 javampire next to the save icon
19:39.03 raj12lnm ok. done.
19:39.19 raj12lnm javampire
19:39.49 raj12lnm I have to modify /usr/brlcad to /usr/brlcad/dev-7.24.1
19:40.40 raj12lnm in python-brlcad.cfg
19:40.54 raj12lnm i am not sure u had to the same.
19:41.05 javampire if you put it on the PATH, you don't have to do that
19:41.30 javampire also, you can put it in your ~/.python-brlcad.cfg
19:41.40 javampire that will override the default !
19:41.57 raj12lnm ok.
19:42.13 raj12lnm Also you were saying regarding the VOM bindings
19:42.20 raj12lnm can u guid me regarding that.
19:42.32 raj12lnm so that i can spend some time after class tommorow.
19:42.38 javampire I have this in mine:
19:42.39 javampire http://pastebin.com/wBb5YhuF
19:43.03 raj12lnm ok.
19:43.13 javampire ok, you can look in the brlcad/primitives/table.py
19:43.28 javampire and look for ID_VOL
19:44.18 javampire then you can look in the BRL-CAD source for the internal strucutre: rt_vol_internal
19:44.28 javampire I use this command to do that:
19:44.56 javampire find include/ -name '*.h' -exec grep -l 'rt_vol_internal' \{\} \;
19:45.26 javampire then you could look in include/wdb.h for a mk_... method which creates one
19:45.42 javampire it is "mk_vol", I just looked
19:46.08 javampire then just look at the examples in wdb.py and the corresponding python wrappers in primitives/...
19:46.26 raj12lnm ok.
19:46.38 javampire any questions, just ask...
19:46.51 raj12lnm also, I wanted to ask regarding the process brl-cad follows
19:47.09 raj12lnm Am I late or early for the applications ?
19:47.27 javampire well I'm not an official mentor or anything, but if you start sending code you're definitely doing well :-)
19:47.35 raj12lnm ok.
19:47.48 raj12lnm if i chose this project who are the prospective mentors ?
19:47.58 javampire for the formalities, please ask Sean or the other mentors...
19:48.05 raj12lnm or its a community which helps all the participants ?
19:48.12 javampire well I think this year the community helps
19:48.17 raj12lnm ok.
19:48.24 javampire but you definitely can count on my help
19:48.27 raj12lnm sean : are u there ?
19:48.34 raj12lnm ok. javampire.
19:48.52 raj12lnm is caen23 sean's handle ?
19:49.06 javampire I don't think so
19:49.19 javampire try brlcad ;-)
19:49.25 raj12lnm perhaps let me try to talk and introduce myself to other tommorow.
19:49.30 javampire yep
19:49.31 raj12lnm ok, javampire
19:50.00 raj12lnm in the meanwhile goodbye to all.
19:50.08 javampire see you Raj !
19:50.10 raj12lnm Its 1:19 here
19:50.17 javampire well go get some sleep !
19:50.20 raj12lnm bye all.
20:27.35 brlcad any gsoc questions?
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20:27.51 helo was fosscookie just in here?
20:32.37 kesha brlcad, what do u think of "Planet BRL-CAD" as I described in a mail few days ago ?
20:38.58 brlcad helo: a little bit a go, yes
20:39.26 brlcad kesha: I've not gotten to mail in a few days ...
20:39.41 brlcad setting up a planet sounds like a good idea though
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21:02.00 brlcad oof, been too many months without living/breathing c++ ...
21:12.48 kesha yes, a personalized place, where developers and user share blogs, updates and any news related to the community and the product.
21:13.14 kesha Could it be a potential idea for GSoC this year ?
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21:39.47 brlcad kesha: gsoc idea?
21:39.56 brlcad you mean implement some sort of planet infrastructure?
21:40.01 brlcad there are a bunch we could just use
21:40.30 kesha_ like ?
21:43.54 brlcad kesha_: erm, like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_feed_aggregators
21:44.22 brlcad some are OS based, some app, some web
21:44.43 brlcad there are literally .. a lot of them :)
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