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03:29.44 brlcad after 10 years, the trifecta is finally complete
03:29.52 brlcad acquires brlcad.com
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08:09.47 pandrei d_rossberg : hey, I've discussed a bit with brlcad yesterday about the interface gsoc project, the C++ one which you've been working on. He mentioned that there are a few easy primitives left to implement, and that I could implement one as a patch. Which one do you suggest? Can you give me a bit of detail about what it should have?
08:09.48 pandrei Thanks!
08:11.15 d_rossberg pandrei: i've just read you conversation at rikers ;)
08:11.23 pandrei oh\
08:12.41 d_rossberg first, i recommend to play around with the core interface a little bit
08:13.25 d_rossberg yesterday i mentioned rt^3/tests/coreInterface
08:13.54 d_rossberg try "make printTitle" in rt^3
08:14.18 d_rossberg you should run this program
08:15.54 d_rossberg implement and run the examples from http://brlcad.org/wiki/BRL-CAD%27s_core_C%2B%2B_interface
08:17.00 d_rossberg possible pathes are a "test" in rt^3/tests/coreInterface which creates a primitive of every kind
08:18.10 d_rossberg or maybe the interface for the hrt primitive
08:19.00 pandrei thanks, I'll look into what you said and I'll probably write the test first
08:19.09 pandrei then see how the heart primitive would look
08:19.26 d_rossberg however, most important: get familar with the core interface and its philosophy
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08:40.03 kspitale Hi! I am Kartik Pitale, a second year Computer Science undergrad from BITS Pilani, India. I am interested in the project General Tree Walker. Could someone please guide me as to what I should do next ?
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09:09.19 binbin Hello everyone! Binbin here
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12:49.11 ``Erik http://www.cube20.org/ brute force analysis of rubics cube solutions to find the maximum required moves for any configuration O.o
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15:13.57 _echelon_ Hi there. I will like to take part in this years gsoc under brlcad. The project i am interested in doing is "Add exec option to search"
15:15.31 _echelon_ Please how do i go from here to download the working copy of the source code of brlcad
15:15.34 _echelon_ ?
15:16.40 teepee_ _echelon_: have you seen http://brlcad.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code/Checklist
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15:44.33 starseeker ~svn
15:44.33 infobot Subversion (aka SVN) is version control software that aims to be a better CVS than CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/.
15:45.19 starseeker _echelon_: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Building_from_SVN
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16:11.58 ishwerdas brlcad: for mediawiki and docbook synchronization do we need to build a new mediawiki extension ? There's a collection extension by mediawiki that converts from wiki syntax to Docbook and another script by blender that does the vice versa. Do we need to build new one or improve on these ?
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16:16.31 Notify 03BRL-CAD Wiki:Brad Eric Hollister * 0 /wiki/User:Brad_Eric_Hollister:
16:16.59 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 60120 brlcad/trunk/include/bu/debug.h: Add BEGIN/END_DECLS to debug.h
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16:17.28 andrei___ what type of file should the Load method in ConstDatabase use? It doesn't work with a dsp
16:17.35 andrei___ I'm trying to play with PrintTitle a bit
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16:32.45 d_rossberg andrei___: *.g?
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17:00.02 andrei___ If it's not already, maybe you could put this on the GSoC page http://brlcad.org/MGED_Quick_Reference_Card.pdf
17:00.37 andrei___ at least to me, it seemed very useful and clarified several aspects
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18:52.22 starseeker ishwerdas: do those work?
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19:01.55 brlcad andrei___: "the GSoC page" means what?
19:02.57 brlcad notes /wiki/Building_from_SVN is pretty much identical to /wiki/Compiling .. should be consolidated
19:04.51 andrei___ http://brlcad.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/
19:05.13 andrei___ but it might be a good idea to add a reference to it on the ideas page, hence that's where the link from melange takes you first
19:05.37 brlcad it's only relevant for a few of the projects though
19:06.05 andrei___ I thought it's more relevant to what BRL-CAD is and what it works with
19:07.08 brlcad but it's not, it's just what mged is and how to work with mged
19:07.48 brlcad mged is an important app, but it's not representative of brl-cad (nor would I want to encourage that view)
19:08.30 brlcad our third gen interface will make that leap, and when that happens .. it'll be called "BRL-CAD" or "brlcad" or similar
19:08.48 brlcad but at that point, the quick ref will me somewhat obsolete
19:09.38 andrei___ I mentioned it because it seems to aggregate a lot of information
19:10.02 brlcad about mged :)
19:10.03 andrei___ file formats and what they are(they are for mged, indeed) and the Groups->Regions->Primitive Shapes
19:10.11 brlcad yes, that is true
19:10.29 brlcad maybe add it to the resources list on the checklist
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19:10.59 andrei___ as I said, it just seemed very useful for me, maybe because I already have some info and it helped me make some connections
19:11.09 brlcad nods
19:11.18 brlcad don't dispute that it'
19:11.33 brlcad it's valuable/useful .. just have to be careful at what point it's introduced
19:11.43 brlcad especially if it's not 100% relevant to a given audience
19:12.04 brlcad there's already a LOT of 100% necessary content to get through
19:12.46 brlcad andrei___: you want to try and add it to the checklist, reading into where it might make sense?
19:12.55 andrei___ sure thing
19:12.56 ishwerdas starseeker: At-least there's a partial support in collection extension, I will just try it out and get back to you.
19:13.46 brlcad andrei___: I'd expect step 13 or 18 .. probably the latter
19:14.41 brlcad like "go through the mged tutorial (cheat sheet here)" with 'tutorial' and 'here' being hyperlinks
19:21.22 andrei___ just to make sure, this is the link to mged tutorial : http://brlcad.org/VolumeII-Introduction_to_MGED.pdf ?
19:21.40 brlcad nods
19:21.51 brlcad try to make it as clear and concise as possible
19:22.02 brlcad fewer unambiguous words, the better
19:26.44 andrei___ I'll use the text you mentioned, I'm just fighting with the formatting a bit
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19:31.07 andrei___ http://brlcad.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code/Checklist
19:35.31 ishwerdas starseeker: Fedora Community uses the same extension for converting wiki to Docbook, and they have listed what clean up needs to be done after conversion on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Converting_wiki_to_DocBook_XML. I guess automating this clean up could be a comparatively easier task than creating our own mediawiki extension from scratch.
19:36.21 starseeker ishwerdas: does that look like less work than finishion Beacon?
19:37.05 ishwerdas sorry din't get you.
19:37.46 starseeker finishing this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocBook_Editor_Documentation
19:38.07 starseeker just wondering how the relative efforts compare
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19:38.52 starseeker I'm wary of translating to/from markup languages myself, but if doing a straight-up DocBook editing plugin is too much effort that may be what has to be done
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19:46.43 ishwerdas mw-render (mwlib) claims to export in DocBook XML V4.5. format, I was trying to find an example of the output to see how well it works ? If some work has been done on such a conversion wouldn't it be easy to continue from there rather than to begin from scratch ?
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20:29.23 andrei___ where is the Vector3D class definition, I can't find it in brlcad trunc, /usr/bin or rt^3d
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21:14.07 andrei___ does anyone know where the Vector3D class definition is, I wasn't able to find it using grep. I'm trying to print the content(coordinates) of the Vector3D
21:14.10 andrei___ Thanks!
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21:37.45 andrei___ nevermind, I found it
21:39.46 andrei___ also, d_rossberg: Is there any particular reason why you haven't used BRLCAD namespace, or just because it wasn't needed in the hello world test?
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23:11.34 TCD Evening,
23:16.18 brlcad howdy TCD
23:18.24 TCD I would love to say 'I've had all these great ideas for project proposals' but...the 7drl challenge got in the way, so I've not got anything interesting to say unfortunatel.y
23:18.27 TCD *unfortunately
23:53.42 brlcad TCD: hehe, well you have some work cut out for you -- let me know how we can help you narrow down
23:56.45 TCD Sure. I'm planning on taking the day off the challenge tomorrow to see if I can almost clear up my proposals and everything
23:57.13 TCD I still need to see about getting a patch/fix/thing done at some point too, heh

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