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| 01:52.58 | maths22 | ankesh11_: you probably need to add something to the cmake files to dump those settings into a text file |
| 01:53.09 | maths22 | I think the cmake summary is a good starting point |
| 01:53.46 | maths22 | If those are in a text file, the benchmark program can read them in |
| 01:54.31 | maths22 | I don't know of any currently generated file that has that information easily acessable, but someone else may be more knowledgeable on that point |
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| 04:07.38 | richa | I wish to do submit some patches for http://brlcad.org/wiki/Synchronize_Wiki_with_Docbook |
| 04:08.16 | richa | As of now, there is no existing code, what else can I do for my initial contribution? |
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| 05:18.09 | brlcad | richa: any patch is better than no patch, or consider different code to patch |
| 05:18.39 | brlcad | if you know other languages, lots of options for Python, C, C++, Tcl, and posix shell |
| 05:19.23 | brlcad | plus there's the previous benchmark database web work, the online geometry viewer work, and the model repository code |
| 05:19.33 | brlcad | (see prior gsoc years on our wiki) |
| 05:20.57 | brlcad | ankesh11: run.sh file?? |
| 05:21.06 | brlcad | ah, benchmark! |
| 05:21.49 | brlcad | ankesh11: you can't/don't .. the compiled tool needs to somehow have it recorded at compile-time |
| 05:23.55 | brlcad | ankesh11: note that while run.sh might be able to read the cmake configuration, an installed version of brl-cad (where run.sh becomes "benchmark"), you have no such access to that information |
| 05:24.01 | brlcad | the closest you have is brlcad-config |
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| 06:16.02 | ankesh11 | brlcad: I created a bash script to get the compiler info(https://gist.github.com/ankeshanand/9542880). Now, what would be the right place to put it into the run.sh file? I am thinking just after collecting CPU information. |
| 06:58.14 | ankesh11 | Okay, I think I have a patch ready, I will add support for CFLAGS and submit the patch this evening. |
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| 07:27.48 | ankesh11 | Can anyone guide on submitting a patch? |
| 07:28.10 | ankesh11 | I created a svn diff in my working directory |
| 07:28.48 | ankesh11 | I think the next step is to submit it as an attachment here : http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/patches/new/ |
| 07:29.31 | ankesh11 | But I can't understand the options to be set in Milestone, Status, Owner etc. |
| 07:36.12 | ankesh11 | I figured it out. |
| 07:36.28 | ankesh11 | brlcad: The patch is here https://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/patches/258/ |
| 07:40.10 | ankesh11 | brlcad: The run.sh file eventually becomes benchmark, and we have compiler info in the build-dir/CMakeFiles directory, which benchmark can access. So, I just used that. |
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| 14:25.10 | brlcad | happy friday! |
| 14:26.03 | brlcad | ankesh11: did you read what I wrote? :) an installed version of the benchmark does not have access to the build system (and might not even be running on the same computer) |
| 14:26.37 | brlcad | ah, I see you did reply to that point |
| 14:26.56 | brlcad | i'll take a look at your patch to see what you did ;) |
| 14:28.20 | richa | I am willing to fix some bugs of http://brlcad.org/wiki/User:Harman052/Proposal/WebInterface Where is the source code of this project? |
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| 14:38.49 | brlcad | richa: have you read http://brlcad.org/wiki/Online_Geometry and http://brlcad.org/wiki/Online_Geometry/TODO ? |
| 14:40.39 | brlcad | it's on github |
| 14:41.06 | brlcad | you should get in touch with harmanpreet to see what would make a good simple patch |
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| 14:44.02 | richa | brlcad: Looking at the links, will try to get in touch with harmanpreet |
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| 14:57.41 | brlcad | harmanpreet: on that note, we're using github for web work, so I added you to our project page: github.com/BRL-CAD |
| 14:58.42 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.13 | richa | brlcad: I cannot find the link to the source code of the above project |
| 15:06.21 | richa | brlcad: Its not there in the links which you gave me |
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| 15:12.02 | brlcad | richa: those links were to read about the background information (quite important) |
| 15:12.08 | brlcad | hi gaganjyot |
| 15:12.26 | gaganjyot | hello brlcad |
| 15:18.08 | gaganjyot | brlcad: I had a talk with ries and I guess we will add more stuff to be done during GSoC period |
| 15:18.40 | gaganjyot | I will be submitting code for the copy also by today |
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| 15:28.24 | andrei | Hello |
| 15:29.44 | harmanpr1et | hi richa! |
| 15:30.12 | harmanpr1et | Code of OGV is here: https://github.com/harman052/geometry_viewer/ |
| 15:30.27 | harmanpr1et | nick harmanpreet |
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| 15:31.41 | harmanpr1et | to work on current implementation or submit patch for OGV, read: https://github.com/harman052/geometry_viewer/wiki/Todo-List |
| 15:33.11 | d_rossberg | hi andrei |
| 15:36.12 | ishwerdas | harmanpr1et: How much browser support are we aiming at for OGV ? |
| 15:37.05 | andrei | d_rossberg : what do you think about the geometry kernel and gsoc? |
| 15:37.25 | andrei | I'm not talking about all of it, obviously, but the idea |
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| 15:37.54 | gaganjyot | brlcad: ping |
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| 15:38.28 | brlcad | gaganjyot: just a bit |
| 15:38.41 | d_rossberg | there is not such a big difference between "gemetric kernel" and "core interface"; they are very much the same |
| 15:39.31 | d_rossberg | the rename/movement could be done before the coding phase starts |
| 15:40.16 | andrei | I'm not sure how the 'community bonding soon' period should be handled |
| 15:40.56 | andrei | but, yeah, since I do have commit access and some BRL-CAD knowledge, I think I could do that part during the first phase |
| 15:41.23 | d_rossberg | i could do it by myself too ;) |
| 15:41.42 | harmanpr1et | ishwerdas: Mainly focus is on modern browsers, but it would be good if ThreeJS could support their older versions. |
| 15:41.43 | andrei | however, you mentioned 'independent of brlcad'. coreInterface is relying on /usr/bin/brlcad-x.y.z/include aswell |
| 15:43.34 | d_rossberg | "independent" means independent from a BRL-CAD installation, i.e. you have a libgeometrykernel.so which contains all what's needed (or almost ...) |
| 15:43.48 | d_rossberg | similar to the brlcad.dll |
| 15:44.47 | andrei | So, then, while the transition takes place before coding phase, during code phase I need to figure out which primitives to implement |
| 15:44.49 | d_rossberg | there is an SDK where you can program on it whithout any other dependencies |
| 15:45.05 | d_rossberg | in general: yes |
| 15:45.18 | andrei | my main concern(based on my previous experience) is to be able to switch between tasks |
| 15:45.33 | andrei | so I don't get into the situation of not being able to do anything |
| 15:45.55 | andrei | i.e having an "easy" and a more advanced primitive implementation periods overlapping |
| 15:46.14 | andrei | so if I get stuck with something at the more complicated one and there's no one available on IRC/I can't get it fixed |
| 15:46.20 | andrei | I shift to the easier one |
| 15:47.38 | andrei | I was looking, for example, at bspline(librt/primitives) and it seems complicated |
| 15:47.45 | andrei | or at least complex |
| 15:48.45 | andrei | is there a priority in the primitives implementation? Aside of hrt(I'll take care of it this weekend, probably), which others do you consider relatively simple? |
| 15:50.07 | d_rossberg | from my experience: the hard part is the design of the interface class, i.e. understanding how the primitive works and to present it in an easy to understand way |
| 15:50.57 | d_rossberg | my first priorities are bot and pipe |
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| 15:51.56 | andrei | (I haven't checked if it's implemented) could pipe be a superclass of rcc, for example? |
| 15:52.05 | andrei | or they have to inherit only object |
| 15:52.07 | d_rossberg | for the patch a "test" would be nice |
| 15:52.28 | andrei | a test for the hrt? |
| 15:52.41 | d_rossberg | pipe only inherits object |
| 15:53.05 | d_rossberg | no, a test for what is already there |
| 15:53.24 | andrei | I've submitted a test for Ellipsoid a couple of days ago |
| 15:53.30 | d_rossberg | see your patch thread on sourceforge |
| 15:53.34 | andrei | oh |
| 15:53.42 | d_rossberg | yes, i commented it there |
| 15:54.03 | andrei | oh, sorry |
| 15:54.03 | ishwerdas | maths22: what happened to http://beta.brlcad.org/wiki/Main_Page ? |
| 15:54.08 | andrei | I'll check now |
| 15:54.19 | ankesh11 | brlcad: Sorry about that, I totally misunderstood your point, and drifted in a wrong direction. So, if I understand correctly, an install version of BRL-CAD may not have access to CMake dumps or the build-directory might not be present? |
| 15:54.54 | d_rossberg | the hrt primitive is something where we could practise designing an interface |
| 15:56.48 | d_rossberg | has to leave now |
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| 16:03.12 | brlcad | gaganjyot: pong |
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| 16:03.59 | brlcad | richa: do you have access to a Mac? |
| 16:04.37 | brlcad | or Windows |
| 16:04.45 | kspitale | Hi ! I would like to know more about the project General Tree Walker. |
| 16:04.53 | brlcad | kspitale: welcome :) |
| 16:04.57 | brlcad | what would you like to know? |
| 16:05.55 | kspitale | brlcad: I read the details on the page for this project. Apart from C,C++ what else am I supposed to know ? |
| 16:07.49 | brlcad | kspitale: the general tree walker does not involve C++ |
| 16:08.34 | brlcad | that's way too broad of a question .. you need to know english, you need to know how to use your thumbs, how to turn on a computer... ask something specific |
| 16:09.01 | brlcad | what do YOU think you'll need to know, or what do you NOT know if you were to get started today |
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| 16:10.35 | brlcad | andrei: do not implement bspline -- that's a deprecated primitive (or will be soon) |
| 16:11.18 | andrei | I was just pointing out it seems massive, do you have a point of view on primitives prioritization |
| 16:11.23 | andrei | aside of what d_rossberg mentioned? |
| 16:11.49 | brlcad | well his priorities are bot and pipe, so I'd start there ;) |
| 16:12.03 | gaganjyot | brlcad: I was saying |
| 16:12.09 | brlcad | maybe start by understanding what those two are and how to create one manually |
| 16:12.17 | gaganjyot | that I will submit code for copy too by today |
| 16:12.29 | brlcad | gaganjyot: yep, saw that |
| 16:12.38 | brlcad | and you're expanding your proposal (good) |
| 16:12.39 | gaganjyot | oh alright :) |
| 16:13.02 | brlcad | it's rare that we have to tell people to add more work, so you're doing a good job ;) |
| 16:13.46 | brlcad | ankesh11: the build directory will definitely not be present |
| 16:14.01 | gaganjyot | brlcad: thanks :) |
| 16:14.26 | brlcad | ankesh11: you can test this yourself, build and install brl-cad, then cd /tmp and run the "benchmark" tool |
| 16:16.07 | kspitale | How do I get started ? How do I set up the code on my machine ? |
| 16:21.20 | gaganjyot | brlcad: I will be soon posting the proposal. |
| 16:21.43 | gaganjyot | Actually I and ries are discussing what more to be added |
| 16:21.57 | gaganjyot | expected to post it till 16th :) |
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| 16:22.44 | richa | brlcad: I have access to windows |
| 16:25.08 | brlcad | gaganjyot: okay -- there's no reason to wait really, as you can keep updating it, it'll be "officially submitted" if anything happens (your computer catches fire), and we don't really evaluate them until after the deadline |
| 16:26.23 | gaganjyot | brlcad: well in that case I'd be posting by tomorrow :) |
| 16:26.49 | gaganjyot | today I will write the description part |
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| 16:32.14 | brlcad | richa: there was a bug with the OGV in Safari where geometry wouldn't display -- you could see if you can reproduce the bug with Safari on Windows and if you can, fix it |
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| 16:48.13 | brlcad | kspitale: where did you go? |
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| 16:50.57 | kspitale | brlcad: May I know what will the deisgn of the interface be like and on what platform it will be developed ? |
| 16:53.09 | harman052 | brlcad: Have you checked the OGV project pages: http://brlcad.org/wiki/Online_Geometry_Viewer_Back-end and http://brlcad.org/wiki/Online_Geometry_Viewer_Interface? |
| 16:53.38 | harman052 | I recently added content to both of them. |
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| 16:57.36 | ishwerdas | harman052: where to submit patch for OGV ? |
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| 16:59.52 | harman052 | ishwerdas: all patches should go to sourceforge. |
| 17:00.07 | ishwerdas | thanks! |
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| 17:02.57 | ankesh11 | brlcad: Tried it, and it all makes sense now. The installed version would generally be installed in /usr/brlcad/ (root installation) and it wouldn't have access to the build dir from there. |
| 17:03.40 | brlcad | kspitale: the design will like however you make it (working with us for feedback) and developed on whatever platform you want to use (but will be portable) |
| 17:03.52 | brlcad | harman052: yes, I did |
| 17:04.15 | harman052 | So I hope they are OK. |
| 17:04.18 | brlcad | a patch can also be a pull request for code on github |
| 17:04.42 | ankesh11 | I grep-ed the installation folder, and there is no compiler info there. Any alternative approach? |
| 17:04.59 | brlcad | ankesh11: that is the problem |
| 17:05.37 | brlcad | i.e., that is the problem to be figured out |
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| 17:06.03 | brlcad | you need rt or a lib or some other tool to report the information about how it was compiled |
| 17:06.27 | todor_nikolov | can you help me find adaptagrams library |
| 17:06.37 | brlcad | then you make the benchmark suite obtain that info and write it to the log |
| 17:06.50 | brlcad | in all, this is like 20 lines of code, but you have to figure out where/how ;) |
| 17:07.08 | brlcad | many possible ways to make that work |
| 17:07.14 | starseeker | http://www.adaptagrams.org/ |
| 17:07.23 | brlcad | todor_nikolov: heh, you mean do a web search for you? |
| 17:07.40 | brlcad | certainly you must be joking |
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| 17:11.15 | brlcad | todor_nikolov: how's the proposal coming along? |
| 17:11.56 | todor_nikolov | slow, had internet outage and chose to spend my time reading |
| 17:12.10 | todor_nikolov | ls |
| 17:12.16 | hsrai | Harman052 Move your code to https://github.com/orgs/BRL-CAD and then patches can at GitHub. Ishwerdas can note it. |
| 17:12.19 | todor_nikolov | oops, thats for console :D |
| 17:14.35 | brlcad | I/O Error |
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| 17:19.20 | raj12lnm | hi all. |
| 17:19.30 | harman052 | hsrai: done. :) |
| 17:19.40 | raj12lnm | hi javampire, brlcad and kanzure |
| 17:22.41 | hsrai | Harman: Impressive. Very prompt ;-) |
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| 17:28.06 | hsrai | Those who wish to work on OGV, may like to review web-based geometry viewer at https://github.com/OpenMDAO/pyV3D |
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| 17:51.15 | todor_nikolov | sweet, the build has been fixed |
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| 18:58.12 | ankesh11 | brlcad: I am having a tough time figuring out the solution, and after going through a bit reading on topic, it's a general suggestion that figuring out the compilation info from the binary is tricky and there isn't a standard solution for it. |
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| 20:07.12 | ishwerdas | harmanpreet: , harman052: where can I read details abouth "the mac bug" for OGV |
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| 21:11.57 | mpictor | is finally getting around to updating the STEPcode GSoC projects :/ |
| 21:13.10 | mpictor | starseeker: do you know why the AP242 parser is listed as easy? I suspect that it would be quite hard. |
| 21:13.24 | starseeker | doesn't, actually |
| 21:13.49 | mpictor | I think it was listed that way last year, and I never changed it |
| 21:14.39 | teepee | and it already got a student :) |
| 21:14.52 | mpictor | yes |
| 21:15.55 | mpictor | wish I'd updated that wiki page first, because I suspect vegantrex is looking for something less difficult |
| 21:17.02 | mpictor | also, I doubt cstirk and I would be able to answer many questions about step-g/g-step |
| 21:17.42 | mpictor | I wonder if someone from brl-cad would be a better mentor for that project |
| 21:18.18 | starseeker | mpictor: if you want to move that over to the BRL-CAD section that would be fine - I'd wondered myself |
| 21:18.28 | mpictor | ok |
| 21:18.52 | mpictor | and it shouldn't be classified as easy, should it? |
| 21:19.02 | starseeker | personally I would say no |
| 21:20.22 | mpictor | isn't sure how many entities in ap214 have a similarly named analog in 242, so it could be quite hard IMO |
| 21:20.29 | starseeker | someday needs to take those lists of AP entities and categorize them - metadata, various types of geometry, hierarchical structure objects, etc... |
| 21:20.44 | mpictor | yes |
| 21:21.41 | mpictor | wonders if it would be easier to do on the small schemas that APs are built from |
| 21:21.53 | mpictor | can't think of the correct term for them |
| 21:22.36 | starseeker | so the larger exp files are built on smaller ones? |
| 21:25.09 | mpictor | yes, the low-level stuff in ap209/210/242 is mostly common - and when it is, it comes from smaller modules |
| 21:25.36 | mpictor | sometimes you'll see comments in the files that state "comes from <schema>" |
| 21:26.26 | mpictor | https://github.com/stepcode/stepcode/blob/master/data/ap214e3/AP214E3_2010.exp#L23 |
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| 21:27.40 | mpictor | look at line 49 and 135 |
| 21:27.56 | starseeker | ah - interesting! |
| 21:28.35 | mpictor | sometimes you'll see something like "xxx unused and omitted" |
| 21:28.53 | mpictor | I think each of those schemas has to do with one topic |
| 21:30.05 | starseeker | wonder what resources are availalbe for the smaller schemas |
| 21:31.52 | mpictor | Integrated Resource is what I was thinking of, but that's one of several related terms apparently: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_10303_Application_Modules |
| 21:33.04 | starseeker | http://www.steptools.com/support/stdev_docs/express/step_irs/ |
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| 21:40.43 | starseeker | mpictor: do we have the step_irs exp files in stepcode? |
| 21:41.55 | mpictor | no |
| 21:42.15 | starseeker | wonder if they're worth adding... |
| 21:42.32 | mpictor | not sure how useful they are on their own, but it would be nice to have documentation |
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| 21:42.50 | starseeker | was thinking they might be handy if you wanted to test a file for specific kinds of errors... |
| 21:43.00 | starseeker | might make for easier debugging, but not sure |
| 21:43.04 | mpictor | also, I think they are express v2 which the parser isn't 100% compatible with |
| 21:43.10 | starseeker | ah |
| 21:45.38 | starseeker | huh - constraints http://www.steptools.com/support/stdev_docs/express/step_irs/html/schema.html#assembly_constraint_schema |
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| 21:48.19 | starseeker | probably worth adding to the constraints page: http://www.nist.gov/manuscript-publication-search.cfm?pub_id=822720 |
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| 21:58.51 | mpictor | nist has some useful stuff, but I wish it was easier to find |
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