IRC log for #brlcad on 20140417

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12:30.28 drv_ Hi :) If I will start to work on raytracing I should use OpenCL branch instead main trunk? I have some problems with it... For example CL kernel have syntax errors (?). Was this branch tested?
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13:02.15 teepee drv_: maybe also post the error, I guess that increases the chances someone can help
13:10.04 drv_ Will I post error as bug ticket on sourceforge?
13:13.15 teepee drv_: if it's a compile problem which might be on your system, you could post it on something like fpaste.org and post the link here
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13:29.02 drv_ Ok. And do you know how to copy mged output? In help is written that "ButtonPress-2" will begin "text operation". It's about copying? I've tried it with C, Ctrl-C, Ctrl+Shift+C... I misunderstand something?
13:48.00 teepee drv_: sorry, no idea
13:51.31 drv_ So maybe you know how to raytrace a file from command line?
13:52.17 teepee not really, I'm hanging around here mostly because of GSoC
13:52.32 teepee my BRL-CAD knowledge is very much limited right now
13:52.52 drv_ ok, thanks a lot ;)
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18:35.19 dli_ brlcad, do we have to attend this meeting? Friday, 18 April at 19:00 UTC in #gsoc
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19:44.45 javampire hi all, anybody knows by heart where I find the BRL-CAD primitive parameters explained on an image ? I'm playing with ASCII-art versions of that, which possibly can be included directly in the source code, like this one:
19:44.51 javampire http://codepad.org/QDcJR7J3
19:52.28 teepee javampire: that http://brlcad.org/~gcibhlegm/piwigo/_data/i/galleries/diagrams/primitives-me.png ?
19:53.57 javampire teepee: nope, I think there were somewhere images for example with the order of the points of an ARB8
19:54.10 javampire or the meaning of the parameters of a torus
19:54.12 javampire and similar
19:56.09 teepee ahh, that I don't know
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21:39.47 javampire this the kind of thing I had in mind:
21:39.48 javampire http://codepad.org/1lNAzM17
21:40.23 javampire the advantage against images is that it can be pasted directly in the source code too
21:40.46 javampire so whoever does anything on the primitive's code, can see what it looks like
21:42.25 javampire if it's marked appropriately, the same can be included in any other kind of documentation, ASCII-art is something which can be displayed anywhere a fixed size font is available...
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21:49.05 starseeker javampire: nice!
21:49.47 starseeker are you doing that by hand?
21:50.03 javampire starseeker: I use jave for the basic shape then fix by hand
21:50.29 ``Erik I always used the ascii when needing that info... there might be some buried in various reports, but I don't think there's a canonical graphical repo of that :/
21:50.50 javampire well why not including in the code ?
21:50.54 javampire in some way
21:51.13 javampire so that it can be automatically included in the man page too perhaps
21:51.46 starseeker javampire: my first guess as to where to put those would be include/rtgeom.h
21:52.24 javampire ok, will have a look
21:54.15 javampire hmm, rtgeom.h is indeed a good place, but I would like to do it in a way which allows a man page of all primitives explained
21:54.38 javampire and that generated by a script if possible
21:54.46 starseeker javampire: you'll want to wrap them so they show up in the doxygen output - see, for example, src/libbrep/libbrep_brep_tools.h
21:55.31 javampire yep, that looks good !
21:56.21 starseeker javampire: um. We've looked a little bit a generating such pages from the source code - see the attributes man page in doc/docbook/system/man5/en - but for now we aren't ready with the infrastructure that would let us generate such a page properly
21:57.02 starseeker I'd put them in rtgeom.h for now (which *is* where the canonical internal structures live) and we'll figure out how to generate DocBook from it later
21:57.28 starseeker in the meantime, the doxygen page for rtgeom.h will be a decent start on a "primitives explanation" page
21:59.54 javampire yes, it sounds like a good plan
22:00.50 javampire but I would still like to find again the work already done in this area, at least to be consistent with it...
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22:01.07 javampire anybody remember where those pictures live ? I'm sure I have seen something already
22:01.39 javampire but can't find it now on google or brlcad site
22:05.13 javampire starseeker: OK, there is one small problem with the rtgeom -> for example the arb4-7 are all mapped to arb8, but they need the most an explanation of how that mapping is done...
22:06.21 javampire so basically that would mean that all that info is put to ARB8 in rtgeom.h, I don't think there's any other good solution
22:06.49 javampire but the actual code of mapping is in wdb.c
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22:41.57 brlcad javampire: there's an appendix at the end of the mged tutorial (on the website, under documentation) .. it has most of the common ones
22:42.22 brlcad there are also several gci tasks that visually documented the parameters for most primitives, but they're not organized or easily accessible right now
22:42.36 javampire brlcad: thanks, will have a look
22:43.03 javampire would it be possible to publish those gci results somewhere ?
22:43.21 brlcad the source files actually often have a diagram or description too, in src/librt/primitives/[obj]/[obj].c
22:43.38 javampire ok, will look there too
22:43.51 brlcad yeah, the intent IS to make them part of our docs as a "primitive overview" document
22:44.10 brlcad but they're not easily accessible right now
22:44.49 brlcad (the gci site won't let us get to our list of completed tasks, so have to do a google site: search)
22:45.45 brlcad http://www.google.com/search?q=primitives+diagram+site:google-melange.com
22:48.17 javampire OK, that works too, found some of them
22:48.58 javampire brlcad: what do you think about ASCII art instead of images ?
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