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| 00:13.09 | starseeker | phew | 
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| 02:05.33 | hcurtis | Sean has asked me to give updates, so here goes. I have been working on some programs he asked me to do. I have run into a problem with one of them, and I am doing some research in order to solve it. | 
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| 02:41.56 | maths22 | ankesh11: You have been added | 
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| 04:12.45 | ankesh11 | maths22: Thanks! :) | 
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| 07:34.06 | hcurtis | The GSoC checklist says that we are to agree to the acceptance requirements, but I can't find any information saying how. | 
| 07:34.33 | hcurtis | Do you know? | 
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| 09:32.46 | mihaineacsu | brlcad, any news/updates on socis results? | 
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| 11:52.30 | vladbogo | d_rossberg: hi | 
| 11:53.01 | vladbogo | sorry that I didn't answer the other day but I was away | 
| 11:53.24 | vladbogo | I currently started working at the qt framebuffer | 
| 11:54.34 | vladbogo | I started like in the display manager's case with a text one that just logs calls | 
| 11:55.06 | vladbogo | and I want to start working at the open funtion | 
| 11:55.57 | d_rossberg | hi vladbogo, nice to hear you are working on the completion of the Qt integration | 
| 12:01.39 | vladbogo | as a final goal I think it would be great to have Qt fully decoupled from Tk | 
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| 12:03.08 | vladbogo | but first I want to have the framebuffer done and integrated with display manager | 
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| 13:29.58 | brlcad | mihaineacsu: I believe selections are announced on Monday | 
| 13:31.02 | brlcad | vladbogo: that sounds like a solid plan to me | 
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| 13:33.35 | maths22 | brlcad: thinking about unified login | 
| 13:33.57 | maths22 | Do we want to login with external services (github, google+, etc.)? | 
| 13:34.18 | maths22 | Or do we want to have "brlcad" user accounts that work on all brlcad sites? | 
| 13:40.10 | brlcad | "yes"? :) | 
| 13:41.14 | brlcad | maths22: I think it needs to be a mix of both, no? some local accounts (primarily for administrators) and external service logins for social interaction | 
| 13:41.56 | brlcad | it could be entirely external I suppose, would there be a downside? | 
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| 13:44.48 | maths22 | I was actually thinking that internal would be easier | 
| 13:45.05 | maths22 | Or maybe using external for authenitcaion, but having an internal profile with email, etc | 
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| 13:58.15 | brlcad | maths22: that sounds good too | 
| 14:12.40 | Zhao_Anqing | brlcad: hi, Sean. Excuse me. Could I get a commit access now or please tell me if I need do someting else? Daniel build a branch for me to do the nmg-removing task. But I am not sure whether I can commit now. ^-^ | 
| 14:18.43 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: did you read HACKING about commit access? | 
| 14:24.43 | Zhao_Anqing | Yes, and I noticed the sentense 'there is usually no need to ask'. I just cannot help to ask after my two patches are accepted and hope to start to commit my changes. Ok, that's my fault. | 
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| 14:37.04 | ``Erik | looks at the clock | 
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| 14:59.38 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: just checking :) | 
| 15:00.05 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: you already have commit access, Tom already vouched for you ;) | 
| 15:00.44 | brlcad | please do re-read over the contributor responsibilities section, but welcome and thanks | 
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| 15:02.34 | Zhao_Anqing | brlcad: Thank you! I will cherish it. It's my honor to get it. :) | 
| 15:02.46 | Zhao_Anqing | I will read them again. | 
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| 15:19.31 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: no problem and do speak up if you have any questions, even basic ones on svn | 
| 15:19.59 | brlcad | since you're working on a branch but are making major restructuring changes, it's going to be very important that you keep the branch up-to-date with trunk commits | 
| 15:20.19 | brlcad | sync from trunk to your branch should probably be a daily (or more freuquent) activity | 
| 15:23.04 | starseeker | suspects he has finally hit a hard problem with the multi-dirbuild in one program situation | 
| 15:23.54 | Zhao_Anqing | brlcad:OK. to achieve this point, I should get the newest version of trunk, then copy them to the branch in local machine, then update the branch. Am I right? | 
| 15:24.38 | starseeker | FOR_ALL_DIRECTORY_START(dp_right, right) ends up putting a directory pointer into dp_right that has the expected contents, but db_lookup on right for dp_right->d_namep does not return a valid pointer | 
| 15:25.19 | starseeker | it looks like db_dirhash is hashing correctly for db_left but not on db_right for a 3-way merge | 
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| 15:58.15 | GuMiner | All: I've used BRL-CAD for some of my design projects and am currently looking at helping develop the project. I've looked at the 'Implement parallel support for Windows' task on the 'Contrubiter Quickies' wiki, however it seems to me that the hooks are already present in parallel.c and semaphore.c. Is this the case, or am I overlooking the actual task to be done? | 
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| 17:49.18 | ``Erik | shakes fist at starseeker for ditching *burp* :) | 
| 17:50.05 | starseeker | ``Erik: wish I could have gone :-/ | 
| 17:50.22 | starseeker | house keeps breaking | 
| 17:51.36 | ``Erik | old houses do that :) | 
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| 18:32.17 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: no no ... | 
| 18:32.37 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: you should use svn to merge changes from trunk | 
| 18:34.19 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: for example, I know that daniel just recently merged trunk changes through revision 60763 to that branch | 
| 18:35.04 | brlcad | Zhao_Anqing: so to merge any trunk changes since then, you'd make sure your work is first all committed, run svn up, and then merge: | 
| 18:35.52 | brlcad | svn merge -r60763:HEAD https://svn.code.sf.net/p/brlcad/code/brlcad/trunk . | 
| 18:36.44 | brlcad | do within the branch dire, that will merge all the changes from r60763 to whatever the latest is (HEAD) from trunk | 
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| 18:37.43 | brlcad | GuMiner: Hi! | 
| 18:38.41 | brlcad | GuMiner: I'd love to see some examples of your design projects, but welcome and fantastic to hear that your interested in getting involved | 
| 18:39.32 | brlcad | the parallel support on windows quickie subtasks are mostly in place now but they're not confirmed to be working .. you could confirm that they are working and/or fix them | 
| 18:39.49 | brlcad | or I'm sure any number of other tasks that would be great starting points too | 
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| 19:25.21 | GuMiner | brlcad: I can do the confirmation/testing; thanks for the clarification. I've been using BRL-CAD for my 3D printing design projects, such as the case design listed here: http://g-cnp.rhcloud.com/3dp/printing.html#GCF. | 
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| 19:42.06 | ``Erik | pretty good overview http://blog.libtorrent.org/2012/12/principles-of-high-performance-programs/ | 
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| 20:00.11 | brlcad | GuMiner: that's really cool. I'd love to showcase your work on our site after you get that printed. | 
| 20:01.12 | brlcad | ``Erik: oo, daddy likes | 
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| 20:08.45 | GuMiner | brlcad: See http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:191113 for the print images and files. I've also put higher-resolution photos on Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96321741@N08/sets/72157638087784656/). | 
| 20:09.39 | ``Erik | brlcad: devs@brlcad.org doesn't seem to be routing correctly, does it need an entry in /etc/mail/virtualusers to bounce to the sourceforge list or something? | 
| 20:13.41 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:n_reed * 60774 brlcad/trunk/src/libbrep/intersect.cpp: Take another stab at fixing calculation of overlap parameters (went from bad to worse in r60299). We actually needed to do fewer boundary checks to support the full range of possible cases. | 
| 20:14.15 | brlcad | ``Erik: how's it routing incorrectly? They're moderated through another account to keep spam off the list. | 
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| 20:24.24 | ``Erik | Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 5.1.1 <devs@brlcad.org>... User unknown | 
| 20:25.09 | ``Erik | /tmp/erik/mailer-daemon is the full transcript mail | 
| 20:25.57 | brlcad | ahh, interesting .. that's because you're ON brlcad.org probably | 
| 20:26.05 | brlcad | DNS routes that e-mail elsewhere | 
| 20:27.14 | brlcad | maybe an /etc/mail/virtualusers entry is needed to bounce it is needed | 
| 20:29.05 | ``Erik | "sudo make all restart" should rebuild and reload the tables and get it fired up | 
| 20:29.39 | brlcad | from where? | 
| 20:29.46 | brlcad | /etc/mail? | 
| 20:30.02 | brlcad | oh neat, there is a makefile | 
| 20:30.23 | brlcad | there, done .. try again? | 
| 20:31.57 | ``Erik | it's not something I was doing, those mails just show up in my mailbox once in a while | 
| 20:33.08 | ``Erik | looks like "... sent a message using the contact form at http://brlcad.org/d/contact." | 
| 20:33.40 | ``Erik | (which'd explain the dns rerouting not working) | 
| 20:33.43 | brlcad | huh, wonder what changed because I used to get those .. maybe you set something up proper | 
| 20:34.04 | ``Erik | I probably messed up the aliases file, I kept getting them... | 
| 20:34.06 | brlcad | and those contact form things do need moderated... 99% crap | 
| 20:34.23 | ``Erik | this one kinda looked legit, so I figured I'd pass it on :) | 
| 20:37.53 | brlcad | huh, looks like I"m getting them too | 
| 20:38.13 | brlcad | you're referring to the most recent greenwold? | 
| 20:38.19 | ``Erik | yeah | 
| 20:38.29 | brlcad | so yeah, somehow we're both getting them :) | 
| 20:39.02 | ``Erik | postmaster points to root and I set up root to deliver to both of us | 
| 20:39.16 | brlcad | yeah, I just found that | 
| 20:39.44 | brlcad | so, let's see if the alias fixes it | 
| 20:40.24 | brlcad | message recieved ... | 
| 20:40.32 | brlcad | "yay" ... (ugh) | 
| 20:40.48 | ``Erik | hm, virtual user... alias is 'machine wide', virtual user can filter on recipient hostname :) | 
| 20:41.56 | brlcad | no comprendo el implicacione | 
| 20:43.54 | ``Erik | if you put dev in the alias file, it'll match dev@brlcad.org dev@bz.bzflag.bz dev@elfga.com dev@... if you JUST want dev@brlcad.org, it's /etc/mail/virtualusertable, not /etc/mail/aliases | 
| 20:53.08 | brlcad | not usurping all possible uses of the name is fine :) | 
| 20:53.55 | ``Erik | crosses his fingers and flushes swap after shooting a couple java processes O.o | 
| 20:54.37 | teepee | mourns the poor java processes | 
| 20:56.40 | brlcad | hehe | 
| 20:59.07 | ``Erik | http://www.blacktoptens.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Pulp-Fiction-Samuel-Jackson-560.jpg | 
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| 21:16.00 | hcurtis | I am trying to write the C programs that Sean has asked me to write. That has led me to do research on pointers, malloc(), and variable-length arrays. To implement dynamic memory allocation in my GSoC programs, should I use malloc (which is often mentioned in the information I've been given) or variable-length arrays (because they are newer)? | 
| 21:30.00 | mihaineacsu | hcurtis: did you read/get an ideea about variables on the heap or on the stack ? | 
| 21:33.41 | ``Erik | hcurtis: malloc. some compile flags that might help you are "-W -Wall -Werror -ansi -pedantic --std=c89" | 
| 21:33.49 | ``Erik | (if you're using gcc) | 
| 21:34.18 | ``Erik | they work with clang, too :) | 
| 21:35.46 | hcurtis | mihaineacsu: I don't know whether they are on the heap or the stack. | 
| 21:36.48 | hcurtis | ``Erik: Right now I am using Visual Studio 2010. | 
| 21:37.26 | mihaineacsu | hcurtis: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3697299/passing-command-line-arguments-in-visual-studio-2010 | 
| 21:38.04 | brlcad | do either, or better: do both | 
| 21:38.48 | brlcad | it's only slightly more work for you (like two lines of code change), but to be productive, you really need to understand the difference | 
| 21:40.22 | brlcad | more importantly, get it working in any possible way you can manage first .. | 
| 21:40.26 | hcurtis | Thank you to all of you. | 
| 21:40.35 | hcurtis | brlcad: Yes. | 
| 21:40.53 | hcurtis | brlcad: I am sorry that this is taking so long. | 
| 21:44.24 | hcurtis | brlcad: Here are details. The first program (normal fixed-sized array) was easy, of course. The second one, not so much...which is why you gave it to me--so that I could learn from the problems it would give me. | 
| 21:45.15 | brlcad | lets see the first one | 
| 21:47.17 | hcurtis | And then I found out the hard way that Visual Studio is VERY fussy about certain things that I don't have a deep understanding of, and I had to take a lot of time coming up with workarounds. | 
| 21:48.07 | hcurtis | [17:45] <brlcad> lets see the first one -- With the pastebin method you told me about? | 
| 21:48.22 | brlcad | yes | 
| 21:49.32 | hcurtis | Ok. I'm on it. Please bear with me, though. I'll go as fast as I can. | 
| 21:53.24 | hcurtis | brlcad: That first program is in C++ (whereas the second one I tried to do in C from the get-go). Do you want me to convert that first program to C before I do pastebin? | 
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| 21:54.40 | brlcad | nope, paste what you got first | 
| 21:55.16 | hcurtis | Ok | 
| 21:59.59 | hcurtis | brlcad: still waiting for the VM to load | 
| 22:12.43 | hcurtis | brlcad: Please forgive my ignorance. I'd dig for the answer to this myself, but I know you're waiting on my code. I have the code in http://pastebin.ca ("point A"), and I know I'm supposed to use something like this to compile in the VM: gcc -W -Wall -Werror -o test1 myfile.c ("point B"). However, I don't understand how to get from "point A" to "point B". | 
| 22:14.53 | mihaineacsu | hcurtis: just paste the source code on pastebin for now | 
| 22:15.41 | hcurtis | Ok | 
| 22:16.30 | hcurtis | Ugh, the pastebin just gives me a blank screen now. | 
| 22:17.46 | hcurtis | As in a blank window | 
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| 22:19.28 | hcurtis | I'll try a different pastebin and a different browser. | 
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