| 00:04.44 | brlcad | andrei__: I didn't just say "investigate dbl_epsilon" ... |
| 00:04.47 | brlcad | andrei__: I said "look for other uses of NEAR_ZERO and IF you cannot find any, use dbl_epsilon" |
| 00:05.18 | andrei__ | I know, but I don't understand what to use NEAR_ZERO for? |
| 00:05.36 | andrei__ | I assume NEAR_ZERO is a macro that checks if a value is very close to zero |
| 00:07.24 | brlcad | starseeker: fft is actually a good example of a succinct set of routines that stand on their own ... |
| 00:07.29 | brlcad | I also don't think it's a good idea to end up with monolithic libraries |
| 00:08.35 | brlcad | if something is organized enough that it could very well live on it's own, especially dependency-wise (it does not depend on libbu or libbn structures) we should let it ... it's a move towards library modularity |
| 00:11.54 | andrei__ | I was looking in librt/primitives/ell/ell.c on how NEAR_ZERO it's used, but I would need to subtract and then compare to zero with that. I'm probably missing the point, but this way doesn't make any sense to me |
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| 00:32.42 | raj12lnm | hi brlcad ! |
| 00:33.07 | raj12lnm | do you think that email which I sent on the group. Is that a bug ? |
| 00:33.52 | raj12lnm | Also, When I change that on my local machine and run the build. And then try to run the python code. (it works :)) |
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| 02:26.08 | brlcad | hcurtis: you must build before you can link against and use BRL-CAD functions |
| 02:27.40 | brlcad | hcurtis: don't bother with creating a cmakelists.txt file, it's important to build by hand first so you understand how compilation and linking work and what the options mean |
| 02:28.15 | hcurtis | brlcad: Ok |
| 02:28.39 | brlcad | raj12lnm: ignore mk_constraint for now, that's new API that will likely change |
| 02:29.09 | brlcad | hcurtis: you don't need to install, but you do need to build and know where/how to link against the libs you built |
| 02:30.29 | hcurtis | The good news is that I started the build quite a while ago. The bad news is that it's still going. It takes hours. |
| 02:30.33 | brlcad | raj12lnm: haven't gotten a chance to look into whether it's a bug yet |
| 02:30.50 | brlcad | it will take a while |
| 03:12.00 | hcurtis | brlcad: It is still building. To find and use bu.h for my program, I considered using the gcc -I option, but my research seemed to say that it wouldn't be "clean" enough of a technique. A lot of information sources named the use of a cmakelists.txt file as a good alternative. |
| 03:22.08 | hcurtis | To tell the compiler where to find bu.h for use with my program, should I use the command gcc -I? If not, would any of you be willing to steer me in the right direction? |
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| 03:38.49 | brlcad | hcurtis: i'm not sure I understand what is unclean about using the -I option |
| 03:40.19 | brlcad | you only need gcc, stick to using the compiler |
| 03:40.28 | brlcad | tell it what to compile and how to compile it |
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| 04:01.47 | hcurtis | brlcad: Ok |
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| 09:15.57 | pandrei | meh, can't remember infobot command |
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| 10:50.11 | d_rossberg | andrei__: to find out where rtip->rti_tol.dist_sq you could try: grep -R "\.dist_sq =" * |
| 10:50.54 | andrei__ | in brlcad or rt^3? |
| 10:51.23 | d_rossberg | in src/librt |
| 10:53.50 | d_rossberg | you'll see it's a product, then what is your next grep search? |
| 10:54.06 | andrei__ | src/librt/tol.c |
| 10:54.08 | andrei__ | it's here |
| 10:55.06 | andrei__ | I am very confused at this point. I don't understand if the tolerance is something hardcoded of a certain value(in Arb8 it's 0.0001) in tol.c it's 0.0005 |
| 10:55.24 | andrei__ | or if it s something I have to get from the database, something that the database functions set |
| 10:55.36 | andrei__ | cause you have that Object parameters that are inherited |
| 10:55.40 | andrei__ | like m_internalp |
| 10:56.30 | d_rossberg | it's really hardcoded, and the bad news is the result of "grep -R rt_tol_default *" |
| 10:57.19 | andrei__ | then it's much, much simpler than I imagined |
| 10:58.04 | andrei__ | rt_tol_default is in the same file |
| 10:58.06 | andrei__ | in tol.c |
| 10:59.04 | d_rossberg | it's the function defined in tol.c, and this file is the only hit for the search, this means ...? |
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| 10:59.59 | andrei__ | that the epsilon I should use is |
| 11:00.10 | andrei__ | rt_tol_default(my_tol_var) |
| 11:00.23 | andrei__ | so that if the hardcoded value changes |
| 11:00.29 | andrei__ | my code still fits to it? |
| 11:01.53 | d_rossberg | no, the functionality defined in tol.c is nowhere used ==> you have to look again for the right place in the code |
| 11:02.52 | andrei__ | I tend to consider brlcad(collection of sources) and rt^3 two separate entities |
| 11:03.45 | andrei__ | in rt^3, there were two places I found anything connected to that tolerance |
| 11:03.48 | d_rossberg | this is not the question, you want to find out what the value of dist_sq is in sphere.c |
| 11:03.48 | andrei__ | the ConstDatabase |
| 11:04.09 | d_rossberg | so you serch with grep for it |
| 11:04.25 | d_rossberg | you found one promising place in tol.c |
| 11:04.41 | d_rossberg | but this is dead code, nowhere used in librt |
| 11:04.53 | d_rossberg | so, how to prceed? |
| 11:05.28 | d_rossberg | you already know that dist_sq = dist * dist |
| 11:05.44 | d_rossberg | therefore lets look for dist: |
| 11:05.46 | andrei__ | so I need to look for dist? |
| 11:05.55 | andrei__ | cause there's no other result for dist_sq |
| 11:06.18 | d_rossberg | "grep -R "\.dist =" *" or "grep -R ">dist =" *" |
| 11:06.59 | d_rossberg | most of the hits are special settings for primitives, one is in tol.c |
| 11:07.18 | andrei__ | ok, 1 min, I'll reboot,got an kernel oops |
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| 11:09.23 | pandrei | there, ok, let me see |
| 11:10.22 | pandrei | ok, that grep returned a few primitives |
| 11:10.30 | pandrei | but not the one I'm looking for |
| 11:11.45 | d_rossberg | yes, you are looking for the one in prep.c |
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| 11:12.22 | pandrei | sorry for asking but, why? |
| 11:12.48 | pandrei | I mean, how could I have figured this on my own |
| 11:14.15 | pandrei | nevermind, I'll note it down somewhere and ask you when there's more time |
| 11:14.40 | d_rossberg | at the end you had only two choises: prep.c and wdb.c |
| 11:15.36 | pandrei | there is a nmg/nmg_* |
| 11:16.04 | d_rossberg | yes, but this is only relevant for the nmg primitive |
| 11:17.09 | d_rossberg | and in prep.c you have the rt_new_rti() function which gives you exactly the stucture you handle with in rt_sph_prep() |
| 11:17.42 | pandrei | well, thanks. I doubt I would've figured without you |
| 11:18.02 | d_rossberg | :) it's called lerning |
| 11:18.13 | d_rossberg | the solution for your code is simple: 0.0005 * 0.0005 |
| 11:18.22 | pandrei | yes, I was updating the patch |
| 11:18.25 | pandrei | just now |
| 11:18.29 | d_rossberg | the way to get the solution isn't |
| 11:19.25 | pandrei | well, now I know not to look necessarily for a direct connection when searching for an answer |
| 11:19.39 | pandrei | maybe that'll help at some point |
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| 11:31.39 | clock | read first "change chest routines" |
| 11:31.45 | clock | maybe does too much gym |
| 11:31.59 | pandrei | hahaha |
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| 11:32.57 | Zhao_Anqing | d_rossberg: hi, daniel. I find some warning C4251, should I try to fix them? |
| 11:33.12 | Zhao_Anqing | in librt |
| 11:33.35 | clock | I was wondering about writing an article about modeling in BRL-CAD |
| 11:38.40 | d_rossberg | Zhao_Anqing: it looks like it's a cmake thing which is changing frequently |
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| 11:39.14 | d_rossberg | something with dll-interface |
| 11:42.25 | Zhao_Anqing | Yes, It appears when dll-export class using stl classes, e.g. list<>, queue<>.. I search the solution from the webpage which suggest just disable the warning C4251. |
| 11:45.39 | d_rossberg | you should ignore this warning |
| 11:46.04 | Zhao_Anqing | Ok. I see. |
| 11:48.21 | d_rossberg | stl via dll can rally be a problem, but with a c-runtime dll and sam version of the stl on both sides as in BRL-CAD it should be ok |
| 11:51.20 | Zhao_Anqing | Fine. |
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| 11:53.37 | Zhao_Anqing | d_rossberg: Then, I hope to consult you about how to change the function nmg_merge_regions(nmgregion*, nmgregion*, const struct bn_tol *) |
| 11:54.03 | Zhao_Anqing | now, there is no nmgregion struct. |
| 11:54.15 | Zhao_Anqing | so should I replace it by struct tree*? |
| 11:55.14 | Zhao_Anqing | It become nmg_merge_regions(union tree*, union tree*, const struct bn_tol *)? |
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| 12:11.39 | d_rossberg | as far as i can see nmg_merge_regions() isn't an nmg-shell function, it's simply the union of two combinations |
| 12:13.03 | d_rossberg | if you need it as a function it would be something for the comb/ |
| 12:13.21 | d_rossberg | with tho rt_comb_internal as parameters |
| 12:15.42 | d_rossberg | i.e. rt_comb_merge(r1, r2) |
| 12:18.09 | Zhao_Anqing | OK. So is it true that I can use the method you taught me yesterday to deal with this function? |
| 12:18.57 | Zhao_Anqing | and where should this function located at? still in nmg_mod.c or any other place? |
| 12:20.12 | d_rossberg | the place would be src/librt/comb because it operates on combinations |
| 12:22.02 | d_rossberg | and yes, the function would have to be similar to _ged_combadd2(), but with adding a whole boolean tree |
| 12:25.13 | Zhao_Anqing | OK. Thank you. Now I understand and will try it. |
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| 16:22.41 | Zhao_Anqing | hi, I want to ask the description of a routine should be writen in *.h file, not at *.c. Am I right? |
| 16:44.50 | clock | ThI would guess so, in h is where the using programmer looks |
| 16:53.09 | Zhao_Anqing | clock: thank you. I ask this because I find most descriptin about nmg part is at *.c, not *.h. |
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| 17:14.32 | ``Erik | interface should be in the .h file, implementation documentation can live in the .c files where it makes sense... (and nmg is not exactly a golden example. Check out libbu for a better "how to do it" for those kinds of questions) |
| 17:19.21 | clock | Zhao_Anqing, to be 100% sure, write two mutually contradictory descriptions, place one into *.c and another into *.h :) |
| 17:20.36 | ``Erik | /* that jackass in nmg.h doesn't know what he's talking about, the REAL deal is ... */ O:-) |
| 17:21.25 | Zhao_Anqing | @@ |
| 17:22.39 | Zhao_Anqing | OK. So should I take some time to move the comments about nmg from .c to .h? |
| 17:23.25 | Zhao_Anqing | clock: I don't understand, you mean write two mutually contradictory description...should be avoid? |
| 17:23.38 | ``Erik | if the comments are about the exposed interface, yes... the .h is where you go to see how to use it, the .c is where you go to see how it works inside |
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| 17:25.46 | Zhao_Anqing | Yes, that's my point. |
| 17:26.40 | clock | Zhao_Anqing, I meant it as a joke... of course contradition in descriptions is wrong |
| 17:29.35 | Zhao_Anqing | Aha~, I guess that's a joke, but not quite sure. I am not good at English enough. you know that's not my mother tongue. however, thanks for your help. :) |
| 17:30.06 | Zhao_Anqing | I understand this question completely now. :) |
| 17:34.33 | ``Erik | sorry if my 'jackass' joke contributed to the confusion.. libbu would be the example to look at if you need to see 'the right way', a lot of attention was paid to making it 'right' as far as style, documentation, convention, etc |
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| 20:12.46 | pandrei | anyone else familiar with the coreinterface? Except Daniel? |
| 20:21.51 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 61168 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/mann/en/search.xml brlcad/trunk/src/librt/db_diff.c and 3 others): Add a -param option to search (needs more testing.) This will allow searching based on internal parameters of an object (as opposed to general attributes) provided those internal attributes have a tcl list representation. It has so far successfully used 'mode' as a filter for listing |
| 20:21.53 | Notify | volume and plate BoT primitives, and a couple other parameters. Probably will need to add a table listing the valid parameters available for the various primitives to the search man page, since it's not immediately obvious what the possibilities are. |
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