IRC log for #brlcad on 20140813

00:17.21 brlcad kanzure: do not know
00:20.44 kanzure okay
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02:38.31 yukonbob hello #brlcad
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02:45.29 clock brlcad, "if you get the right maintainer, it's not an issue .. just a matter of whom you work with (it's almost entirely political)" - very interesting idea for me
02:45.43 clock brlcad, I notice on BRL-CAD I always meet perceived respect and friendliness
02:45.57 clock and on many other OSS projects I meet perceived disrespect, hostility and abuse
02:46.41 clock brlcad, what do you exactly mean with "political"?
02:52.04 yukonbob clock: I suspect "political" nearly always == "ego".
02:59.19 clock yukonbob, I don't know the exact meaning of the term ego although I heard it used in similar context few times. Do you mean arrogance?
02:59.50 yukonbob clock: you're on the right track.
02:59.59 clock I would say it like this
03:00.50 clock If you use 37 PFLOPS supercomputers designed for the task of surviving in evolution, for a task which they weren't designed for (programming), I would suggest to understand how these supercomputers work first
03:01.39 clock In other ways, in the setting of programming, the complexity and computational power of the programmed computer is negligible to that of the programming computer (human brain), so I would suggest it be neglected ;-)
03:02.17 clock So I think it basically reduces to the psychology of interpersonal regulation
03:02.25 clock I think the US Navy already did a research on this topic
03:02.45 clock Because they wanted their people to do assigned job, not spend energy in interpersonal quarrels
03:03.00 yukonbob Your "psychology of interpersonal regulation" is probably syn for "politics"
03:03.04 clock The research was done by J. J. Gibb and I find his categories very useful
03:04.17 clock yukonbob, no with "psychology of interpersonal regulation" I mean the Chapter 15 of Mikulincer, Shaver: Attachment in Adulthood (Structure, Dynamics, and Change
03:04.56 clock Titled Application of Attachment Theory and Research in Gropu and Organizational Settings
03:05.33 clock Shaver said in his lecture that some research in cooperation with the military showed, that when you have an avoidant leader, the subordinates will get a psychological breakdown
03:05.49 clock First the insecure attached subordinates break down, but eventually even the securely attached subordinates break down
03:07.45 yukonbob clock: well, you've lost me -- I haven't read these papers. Surely interesting, but probably a bit heady for what (I guess) Sean was trying to express. But I can't speak for him; only guessing. One oughtn't need a psych degree to get the jist of the sentiment.
03:07.59 yukonbob anyway -- I'm out. have fun.
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11:25.36 Zhao_Anqing d_rossberg: excuse me, daniel.
11:27.34 Zhao_Anqing I am thinking about the nurb_xxx.c files and nmg_rt_XXX.c.
11:28.38 Zhao_Anqing I hope to move the former to an independent lib and move the latter back to librt.
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12:05.58 d_rossberg Zhao_Anqing: did you already teted how hard it is to create a libnurb?
12:08.37 Zhao_Anqing d_rossberg: I'm trying it, seems need to move geometry struct of nmg into it at the same time.
12:09.46 Zhao_Anqing I mean the edge_g_XXX and face_g_XXX...
12:11.16 Zhao_Anqing But I am not sure is it necessary to do this..it's also OK stay in libnmg if you don't mind there are something not like nmg_XXX.c
12:17.39 d_rossberg but nurb is a different primitive (bspline) which functionality is used in nmg, isn't it?
12:23.55 Zhao_Anqing So, you also agree to move them out of libnmg, and create a new libnurb?
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12:26.05 d_rossberg at least they define a different set of functionalities which is used seperately too, i wouldn't put them in libnmg
12:33.41 Zhao_Anqing OK. I am glad to do the move work which will make libnmg more clear :)
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15:17.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:zhaoanqing * 62120 (brlcad/branches/nmgreorg/src/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/branches/nmgreorg/src/libnmg/CMakeLists.txt): move nurb_XXX.c files used by libnmg into an new-created libnurb.
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17:07.03 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62121 (brlcad/branches/framebuffer-experiment/include/bu/magic.h brlcad/branches/framebuffer-experiment/include/fb.h and 12 others): Move magic numbers to bu/magic.h
17:24.23 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 62122 brlcad/trunk/src/util/mac-pix.c: provide some initial values; otherwise, it's possible to use these in computation without their having been given values
18:01.34 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62123 brlcad/branches/framebuffer-experiment/src/libfb/fb_generic.c: With the type magic number in the structure, don't need the string nonsense.
18:11.44 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62124 (brlcad/branches/osg/include/bu/magic.h brlcad/branches/osg/include/fb.h and 18 others): Merge in changes from framebuffer-experiment through 62123 and adapt osg fb code.
18:11.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 62125 brlcad/trunk/src/util/mac-pix.c: add not that standard output must be redirected
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18:27.41 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62127 (svn:ignore ## -0,0 +1,2 ## and 2 others): Framebuffer API is (hopefully) close enough for now, so shifting focus to libdm
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19:02.14 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62129 brlcad/trunk/include/dm.h: Remove old notes on dm API.
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21:09.05 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62135 (brlcad/branches/dm-work/include/dm/dm-Null.h brlcad/branches/dm-work/include/dm.h and 22 others): Start working through the process of hiding struct dm the same way we hid struct fb. Work in progress, code will not currently compile.
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23:49.06 pandrei is there a BU_LIST macro to delete a specific node in a bu_list?
23:49.14 pandrei can't seem to find it in bu.h
23:50.27 pandrei ah, found it :)

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