IRC log for #brlcad on 20140912

00:18.18 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62685 (brlcad/branches/dm-work/src/libdm/axes.c Property Changed: and 3 others): Pull axes.c fix from trunk - updated to r62684
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03:12.19 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62688 (brlcad/trunk/include/fb/fb_platform_specific.h brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-qt.cpp and 2 others): Get the Qt dm/fb building again, but not yet working for the embedded framebuffer - need to rework that logic to fit in the new setup.
03:29.38 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62689 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-qt.cpp: Begin the rework of the Qt framebuffer logic for the new API.
03:47.09 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62690 brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_qt.cpp: Closer, but not working yet for embedded Qt framebuffer.
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14:11.01 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 62691 (brlcad/trunk/src/libfb/if_qt.cpp brlcad/trunk/src/libged/display_list.c): fix spelling, and remove trailing blanks/tabs
14:15.46 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62692 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-qt.cpp: Make the qimg assignment match the one in the older qt_openFb code
14:17.57 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62693 brlcad/trunk/src/libdm/dm-qt.cpp: Actually, no reason to do the cast over and over...
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14:48.10 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62695 (brlcad/trunk/src/libged/simulate/simrt.c Property Changed: and 3 others): Merge change in r62518 from bullet branch.
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15:22.16 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62698 NIL: Fully merged - deleting bullet branch, since from here it should be practical to complete the simulate work and Windows bullet building in trunk.
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19:50.25 sofat hi
19:50.48 sofat i want to start the work on brlcad ,please guide me
19:50.57 sofat i am php developer
19:55.20 brlcad sofat: hi
19:55.51 sofat hello
19:55.53 brlcad open source development is all about self-motivation than being told what to do -- what interests you?
19:56.16 sofat I am a web developer by interest.
19:56.59 sofat I would love to contribute to brlcad web.
19:58.28 brlcad okay, but that can mean oh so many things :)
19:58.42 sofat I have done some work for brlcad web so far my interest is concerned and I have left you a PM regarding that.
19:58.44 brlcad you can put anything on the web .. and we have a lot :)
19:59.03 brlcad yes, the benchmark db
19:59.22 sofat yes, I have made a mediawiki extension of that.\
19:59.53 sofat I would be pleased if you spare some time for that and review work.
20:00.11 brlcad I did review it, but I'm not sure what to make of it
20:00.28 brlcad what's the next step? how does it pertain to the other implementation?
20:01.05 brlcad have you talked to ankesh at all?
20:01.15 sofat Not, yet
20:02.18 sofat I had checked the work of Ankesh, and I have made some improvements in the compare graphs
20:15.31 Notify 03BRL-CAD:vladbogo * 62703 (brlcad/branches/qtged/INSTALL brlcad/branches/qtged/NEWS and 102 others): Merged latest trunk changes to qtged
20:18.48 sofat i have improve the graphs comparison as follows
20:18.49 sofat http://202.164.53.122/~hitesh/media/index.php/Special:Benchmark_compare_two?mode=/home/hitesh/public_html/media/extensions/Benchmark/logfiles/39482.log&file=/home/hitesh/public_html/media/extensions/Benchmark/logfiles/84946.log
20:19.33 sofat http://202.164.53.122/~hitesh/media/index.php/Special:Benchmark_compare_one
20:21.03 brlcad sofat, those links seem broken
20:21.15 brlcad or does one have to be logged in?
20:21.29 sofat please log in first
20:21.37 sofat user name: Harry
20:21.38 brlcad I get an empty page for the first and an error for the second
20:21.52 sofat password: harry@123
20:22.03 sofat Then open the above link.
20:22.31 brlcad okay, that's better
20:23.19 brlcad second is still an error
20:23.33 sofat http://202.164.53.122/~hitesh/media/index.php/Special:Benchmark_compare
20:23.44 sofat Please have a look now.
20:27.08 brlcad that works
20:27.17 brlcad so walk me through what you did
20:27.37 brlcad what does this correspond to on http://202.164.53.122/benchmark/
20:27.44 sofat through the overall efforts?
20:27.48 brlcad sure
20:27.55 sofat okay
20:29.02 sofat I have used CGI for calling the parser (in python developed in previous GSoC)
20:29.58 sofat Then I made an interface for uploading the .log file and the parser parses that file and stores the value in DB
20:30.41 sofat Then from the DB the values are read and graphs are plotted.
20:31.34 sofat And when we upload second file, then we can compare the graphs of two files we / someone else uploaded.
20:32.41 brlcad did you branch from the git repo? it looks like your modifications are somewhat behind where ankesh ended up
20:32.56 sofat yes I did
20:33.13 sofat and one more thing I added is that
20:34.16 brlcad it all looks pretty good, but I have some of the same concerns that I shared with ankesh months ago
20:34.31 sofat The values of plotted .log file are compared with the minimum, maximum and average values picked for that log file from DB.
20:34.47 sofat This is yet another feature I developed.
20:34.52 brlcad e.g., I don't think the individual tests should be exposed anywhere except perhaps on a detailed sheet for a given run
20:35.13 brlcad looks like you've done quite a lot of work
20:35.27 sofat yes I tried my level best.
20:35.34 brlcad so now we have to figure out how to combine these efforts and how that makes sense
20:36.02 sofat would be pleasure and encouragement. :)
20:36.07 brlcad where'd you come up with the idea about running the whole thing as a mediawiki Special?
20:36.27 sofat I kept an idea on the mailing list and IRC
20:36.31 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 62704 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/nirt.xml brlcad/trunk/src/nirt/nirt.c): touchup (includes insertion of missing options) for nirt
20:38.56 brlcad "File In Wrong Format plase use .log file" <-- when I try to upload a log file
20:39.05 brlcad (and I did select a .log file)
20:39.51 sofat let me check it.
20:40.16 sofat Could you please send me the file?
20:40.26 sofat I am able to upload
20:42.11 brlcad sure, http://brlcad.org/tmp/run-34770-benchmark.log and http://brlcad.org/tmp/run-47061-benchmark.log
20:42.45 sofat thanks, just wait a second please
20:43.44 brlcad sofat: I have a particular web project in mind if you're interested in trying to tackle it, but it might require you expanding your knowledge beyond php a little
20:45.45 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62705 (brlcad/trunk/CMakeLists.txt brlcad/trunk/INSTALL and 14 others): Work towards completeing the 'ogl using openscenegraph' version of the dm/fb work with OpenSceneGraph - not done yet, but looking promising. This approach treats OpenSceneGraph as a portable OpenGL context and uses the existing ogl dm and fb drawing code (for the most part), rather than leveraging the actual scene graph
20:45.47 Notify features of OSG (which is considerably more invasive.) Adding this work for two reasons - 1) even though it is not a major functionality boost, it does have the potential to collapse the ogl and wgl dm/fb systems into a single, portable dm/fb and 2) it makes other efforts to actually use the scenegraph simplier from a changeset management perspective. Controlled by the BRLCAD_ENABLE_OSG flag, which is off by default.
20:46.04 sofat sure brlcad
20:46.31 brlcad we need a dynamic About page
20:46.43 brlcad right now we have this: http://brlcad.org/d/about
20:47.20 sofat yeah
20:47.31 sofat I would be pleased to do so.
20:48.01 brlcad in our source tree, we have this: http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/HEAD/tree/brlcad/trunk/README
20:48.25 brlcad and this: http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/HEAD/tree/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/en/about.xml
20:50.15 sofat and what would I need to do exactly or where would I need to extend my knowledge to?
20:50.44 sofat if you could make clearer
20:50.50 Notify 03BRL-CAD:carlmoore * 62706 brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/system/man1/en/nirt.xml: put more punctuation outside parentheses
20:51.21 brlcad moreover, we're currently in the middle of migrating to a completely different website platform... :)
20:52.05 brlcad docbook/xml is probably the extension of knowledge
20:52.37 brlcad we want the docbook xml file to get rendered into the website
20:52.48 sofat okay
20:53.03 sofat fine, I will do that.
20:53.39 brlcad and we want this to happen automatically, regularly
20:53.56 brlcad we can set up a job on the server to do updates overnight or on-demand
20:54.05 brlcad but it gets a little more complicated
20:54.15 brlcad note we have that document in different translations: http://sourceforge.net/p/brlcad/code/HEAD/tree/brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/articles/ru/about_ru.xml
20:55.02 brlcad we have 4 or 5 and I'd expect that to grow to many more ... all getting committed to the repo and getting exposed on the website with as minimal to no intervention necessary as possible
20:55.24 brlcad the idea will be to have a checkout of BRL-CAD on the server that you can read/use
20:56.04 brlcad and either that xml file is compiled into something the web server can use (e.g., docbook to html)
20:57.29 sofat okay I have got an Idea of what to do, could you please give me the pointers where to begin?
20:57.47 brlcad or the front-end web code pulls the xml file, processes it, caches the result (the website must deliver static content most of the time)
20:58.36 brlcad I think our current plan is to utilize wordpress, so you could probably create a wordpress module for this
20:58.47 sofat wonderful
20:59.05 sofat I have good experience in wordpress.
20:59.23 brlcad we don't want it to be completely stand-alone .. if we add a search field or want to involve user/group permissions, integrating with the CMS will be better than something fully custom
21:00.21 brlcad in the end, I think we want to end up with a http://brlcad.org/about that includes the text contents of the xml file and whatever other content it describes (there could be images)
21:00.39 brlcad the about page needs to look impressive ;)
21:01.08 sofat okay fine. do I need to put my efforts for this in wordpress?
21:03.23 sofat I have a few live projects I developed in WP
21:03.25 sofat http://ieilc.org/
21:04.08 sofat http://monumentaldeals.com/deals/?mode=home
21:09.10 brlcad this is a particularly relevant example to keep in mind for the final result: http://www.blender.org/about/
21:09.49 brlcad (note that it's a responsive design)
21:10.58 sofat okay I got that. ;)
21:11.04 Notify 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 62707 (brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/resources/brlcad/brlcad-article-xhtml-stylesheet.xsl.in brlcad/trunk/doc/docbook/resources/brlcad/brlcad-book-xhtml-stylesheet.xsl.in and 4 others): Finally - figured out where to put the encoding setting so our HTML output doesn't end up rendering with funny characters visible due to UTF-8
21:11.08 Stragus Looks rather similar to me... Not even an animated cursor trail, shessh
21:11.10 Stragus :)
21:11.11 starseeker does happy dance
21:11.34 starseeker that's been driving me nuts for *years*, off and on
21:12.10 brlcad cool
21:12.55 brlcad starseeker: note that encoding will necessarily have to be something else for almost any other language
21:13.39 starseeker nods - maybe we can set up something a little more sophisticated, but at least the default doesn't look broken now
21:13.50 brlcad yeah
21:13.57 brlcad it should be outputting utf-8 everywhere
21:14.17 starseeker uh - that doesn't work out of the box in firefox...
21:14.25 starseeker is pretty sure that's what it was doing
21:15.08 starseeker I suppose I can try explicitly setting UTF-8 and see if it generates better HTML that firefox will handle correctly...
21:15.24 Stragus Does it output a <meta charset=""> header? It should work everywhere, including Firefox
21:15.47 Stragus But a bunch of HTML pages lack the encoding/charset headers/tags
21:16.40 starseeker it's all up to what the xsl stylesheets and DocBook want to do - I'm sure there's some sort of "correct" setting, but (like most things DocBook) the documentation, where it exists at all, could give neutronium a run for its money...
21:18.11 Stragus Don't rely on browsers having the "correct" default encoding or recognizing/guessing the encoding, the proper solution is an explicit header/tag
21:18.42 starseeker sure - that just leaves the question of how to do that in DocBook ;-)
21:18.58 Stragus Hum... write a script to fix DocBook's output? :)
21:19.46 brlcad docbook doesn't really do anything, it's just xml -- it's the stylesheet and whatever processor is being used (fop, xsltproc)
21:20.00 starseeker right, which takes xsl as its input
21:21.43 brlcad your xsl:output encoding directive should do the trick
21:22.14 starseeker will try UTF-8 in a second...
21:22.15 brlcad just instead of ISO-8859-1, it should be UTF-8
21:22.17 brlcad <xsl:output method="xml" encoding="UTF-8"/>
21:24.05 sofat brlcad, regarding the document in different translations, I need some more light thrown
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21:45.58 sofat thanks brlcad
21:45.58 starseeker nope - setting UTF-8 doesn't work
21:45.58 sofat i will come with some work done
21:46.05 starseeker ah - method="html" works
21:46.05 starseeker (with UTF-8)
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21:48.00 starseeker sweet
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22:26.58 brlcad starseeker: did method=xml not work?
22:27.07 brlcad what about method=xhtml?

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