| 00:11.55 | maths22 | brlcad: can you give me the help text at the top of http://www.google-melange.com/gci/bulk/google/gci2014/brlcad | 
| 00:12.12 | maths22 | I obviously don't have permssions to pull it up, but it should explain the format | 
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| 00:16.05 | starseeker | brlcad: this one? https://www.softaculous.com/demos/TaskFreak | 
| 00:25.26 | starseeker | suspects it is some serious web-guruism involved to sync something like tackfreak with melange, but would be super-cool and who knows, perhaps it would be of use more widely in future GCI years (hint, hint web devs ;-) | 
| 00:27.10 | starseeker | maths22: are you familiar with taskfreak? I stubled across it when looking for "good" solutions to the GCI "manage a pile of tasks" problem, but I don't know much about it | 
| 00:27.34 | maths22 | I have not. | 
| 00:27.52 | maths22 | How customizable is taskfreak? | 
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| 00:30.18 | starseeker | maths22: not sure - I'm not much of a web programmer ;-) | 
| 00:33.19 | clock | do you know some software that uses brl-cad to render machine generated models? | 
| 00:33.46 | clock | Like for example electronic printed circuit board CAD which would output a machine generated model of the board and visualise it using BRL-CAD? | 
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| 00:44.10 | maths22 | OK | 
| 01:13.30 | brlcad | starseeker: yep, that's the one | 
| 01:13.32 | brlcad | thanks | 
| 01:17.55 | brlcad | maths22: http://picpaste.com/bulk_upload_text-PoxDWICl.png | 
| 01:18.56 | brlcad | clock: from brl-cad's perspective, that's just geometry import | 
| 01:19.33 | brlcad | we have several procedural geometry tools that "machine-generate" geometry | 
| 01:20.05 | brlcad | you wrote one in C several years ago (and unfortunately made it gpl, so it could never be incorporated) | 
| 01:20.20 | brlcad | the bolt tool | 
| 01:21.36 | brlcad | starseeker: can you think of any sets of gci tasks related to qt? | 
| 01:39.56 | maths22 | That format looks really nice | 
| 01:50.25 | clock | brlcad, do you know other softwares like that then? | 
| 02:04.40 | brlcad | clock: I'm not sure what you mean because I just told you "yes, our software" or pretty much any CAD software with a rendering ability | 
| 02:05.30 | brlcad | perhaps you really meant to ask whether I know of any EDA software? | 
| 02:06.57 | brlcad | to which the answer is "yes, that's a huge industry" | 
| 02:07.00 | brlcad | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_design_automation | 
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| 06:28.32 | maths22 | brlcad: I imported 2-300 tasks from last year and implemented an export function | 
| 06:29.05 | maths22 | I don't think this can help with changing the status of tasks. | 
| 06:29.27 | maths22 | However, it can be used to replicate a task (I will implement that now) | 
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| 12:08.21 | starseeker | brlcad: urm. the only one that leaps immediately to mind would be to have someone use QTextBrowser to see if our man pages and help texts can be successfully displayed with it | 
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| 12:12.34 | starseeker | Once I'm done getting the basic framework in place we could set up a command survey that has them hook up and test commands systematically, but I don't know if I'll be ready for that by the time GCI kicks off or not... | 
| 12:15.53 | starseeker | O.o Visual Studio Community and open sourcing .NET stack? wow | 
| 12:18.53 | starseeker | wow - they're even letting enterprise organizations use VS community edition if they're working on open source projects | 
| 12:20.02 | starseeker | picks jaw up off floor | 
| 12:27.38 | ``Erik | starseeker: yeah, they've had small isolated fits of this direction, but they seem to be committing to it lately | 
| 12:28.20 | ``Erik | wix wasn't exactly a huge deal in itself, but vs, .net, ios office, ... | 
| 12:29.44 | starseeker | nods - even wix was pretty cool | 
| 12:30.53 | starseeker | if VSc really has their debugging tools in it, it may spectacularly change the development experience for open source on Windows | 
| 12:31.39 | starseeker | watches the install progress and sighs - well, at this rate I may find out tonight... | 
| 12:32.58 | starseeker | did successfully do a basic test with wix, and long term it'd be nice to generate both NSIS .exe packages and WiX msi packages | 
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| 12:34.26 | starseeker | wonders if it would be a GCI task to test out WiX with the new VS Community 2013 - the generator logic is in there, you'd just have to set BRLCAD_ENABLE_WIX to ON in the CMake GUI | 
| 12:35.00 | starseeker | have to make sure it builds first | 
| 12:35.46 | starseeker | brlcad: was that procedure you had for doing a Mac package bundle boiled down enough that a GCI student could put it through its paces? | 
| 12:36.07 | starseeker | knows CMake has a lot of stuff for that, but I don't think that's how you did your version... | 
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| 14:59.52 | brlcad | they're basically pulling a Sun ... open sourcing everything in a last ditch effort to maintain market dominance | 
| 15:00.08 | brlcad | (this all revolves around the promotion of .net) | 
| 15:02.07 | brlcad | and the corporate/community edition change will actually net them money in the long run, lots of groups were using express (on an enterprise level) and now that's expressly prohibited with the community edition (except for teams < 5 and open source) | 
| 15:02.41 | brlcad | still nice to see the full dev chain finally unleashed if 10 years late | 
| 15:07.57 | maths22 | brlcad: how do you want duplicating to work? | 
| 15:11.25 | brlcad | I'm thinking of specifically how we managed tasks like the facebook banners where there's a base task, then it's copied and title is changed to #2, #3, ... etc to some range | 
| 15:12.42 | brlcad | basically want to say something like, "I want 5 more copies of this task" and then have it automatically create those copies, sets the title copy # to the next available | 
| 15:14.13 | brlcad | even if you select the base task or some intermediate (e.g., there is a "create facebook banner task" and "create facebook banner #2" and "create facebook banner #3", I'm looking at #2 and fill in a field to replicate it 3 more times, so it creates #4, #5, and #6) | 
| 15:14.30 | maths22 | ok | 
| 15:15.28 | maths22 | is there anytging else you want implemented that I haven't? | 
| 15:15.54 | brlcad | the real value is going to be in the upload/merging once tasks are created and several on melange have been closed, how doable is that? | 
| 15:16.06 | maths22 | also, do you want changes on the copies tracked? | 
| 15:16.17 | brlcad | what do you mean by tracked? | 
| 15:17.01 | maths22 | I think it will just skip closed ones, but i can see about a test meange instance | 
| 15:17.26 | brlcad | don't bother setting up a test melange, oof! you can test right on melange | 
| 15:17.30 | maths22 | tracked-ie if you change one the others do to | 
| 15:19.05 | brlcad | ahh, that'd be nice but not necessary .. and I'm not sure other orgs would want that | 
| 15:21.39 | maths22 | Ok. | 
| 15:21.43 | brlcad | will the upload interface let you delete a task? | 
| 15:21.58 | brlcad | hasn't read the new version instructions yet | 
| 15:22.01 | maths22 | I dont think so | 
| 15:22.36 | brlcad | what about change their status (e.g. to published? | 
| 15:22.38 | maths22 | i just skimmed through the logic at https://melange.googlesource.com/soc/+/v2-1-20141112/app/soc/modules/gci/tasks/bulk_create.py | 
| 15:23.08 | maths22 | you have to manually perform status changes | 
| 15:23.45 | maths22 | put in a feature request and see what they say | 
| 15:24.39 | brlcad | er, my reading around line 173 is that status updates are allowed as long as the task is not claimed | 
| 15:25.31 | brlcad | we can test it | 
| 15:25.51 | brlcad | did the data dump from 2013 include status? | 
| 15:28.19 | maths22 | it did, but the text in that image indicates we cant | 
| 15:31.19 | brlcad | hm, indeed ... let's see if it's just additional columns | 
| 15:32.56 | maths22 | i can try to get you a file to test | 
| 15:32.57 | brlcad | ahh, I see | 
| 15:33.29 | brlcad | it's indeed not changing the status, but just making sure you're not changing the title/description/etc of tasks actively claimed | 
| 15:33.36 | brlcad | duh | 
| 15:33.55 | brlcad | line 147 is where it's set | 
| 15:34.41 | brlcad | and if sync_key matches, it uses the task it matched | 
| 15:35.01 | brlcad | darn | 
| 15:35.15 | brlcad | well, so we can either live with it or modify melange | 
| 15:35.23 | maths22 | yep. do you want to put in a ticket? | 
| 15:35.33 | maths22 | or i can | 
| 15:36.02 | brlcad | they're not going to do it in time, but they will take a patch from us that makes it work | 
| 15:36.32 | brlcad | that task from arcriley you came across, it was closed so quickly because he gave them a patch that implemented it ;) | 
| 15:36.45 | maths22 | that is true. unpublished should work | 
| 15:36.57 | brlcad | in fact, that's why it was surprising -- I was just talking with Arc about that feature the week before | 
| 15:37.05 | maths22 | nevermind that tatement | 
| 15:37.14 | maths22 | i will take a look | 
| 15:39.40 | brlcad | maths22: it's totally up to you, but I think we can live with it as-is, to not worry about the state | 
| 15:40.17 | brlcad | if the interface still lets us create all our tasks more quickly, track these copies, and lets us keep a copy in sync on our website, it'll be a huge win | 
| 15:40.46 | maths22 | ok. will do replication soon | 
| 15:41.23 | brlcad | auto-assigning the sync_id alone will help because it'll mean I can keep hitting an upload button without fear of creating 200 copies of all tasks | 
| 15:41.43 | maths22 | this is true | 
| 15:42.44 | brlcad | the last useful bit (for much later) is probably to tie in your script that downloads all the upload data into folders :) | 
| 15:42.59 | brlcad | was that your script or someone else's? | 
| 15:43.32 | maths22 | it was mine | 
| 15:43.54 | maths22 | where is it? | 
| 15:44.28 | brlcad | i've used it a few times since last year | 
| 15:44.35 | brlcad | it's where you last left it ;) | 
| 15:44.45 | brlcad | if only there were a script to download the download script | 
| 15:45.55 | maths22 | was it a gci task? | 
| 15:54.15 | maths22 | found it | 
| 15:56.43 | maths22 | by the way, does bz have java 7? | 
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| 16:22.54 | brlcad | maths22: heh, you do recall fisheye, atlassian, jenkins, ... | 
| 16:26.22 | ankesh11 | I need a MySQL account on the server to set up the benchmark site, would be great if any of the admins, maths22 ``Erik et all can help with that. | 
| 16:27.56 | brlcad | hi ankesh11! | 
| 16:28.05 | ankesh11 | hi brlcad! | 
| 16:30.00 | ankesh11 | I am also a bit late in seeing the GCI mail, but let me know how I can be involved. | 
| 16:30.21 | brlcad | you're already helping :) | 
| 16:30.37 | maths22 | brlcad: what about them? | 
| 16:30.52 | brlcad | once we get everything set up and confirm it's working, the next step will be to define a set of tasks for improving it | 
| 16:31.03 | brlcad | maths22: what about what? | 
| 16:31.17 | maths22 | what tabout those tools? | 
| 16:32.53 | brlcad | ankesh11: creating your mysql instance | 
| 16:33.05 | brlcad | maths22: you'd asked about java | 
| 16:33.07 | brlcad | they're all java | 
| 16:33.25 | maths22 | I found java 6 | 
| 16:33.28 | brlcad | ooh, java *7*! | 
| 16:33.30 | maths22 | I was asking about java 7 | 
| 16:33.33 | maths22 | Yep | 
| 16:33.40 | brlcad | i just saw the 7 .. looked like ?? | 
| 16:33.42 | maths22 | I figure 8 is too new | 
| 16:33.52 | maths22 | OK | 
| 16:34.04 | brlcad | probably but /usr/ports is what tracks all that | 
| 16:34.09 | ankesh11 | brlcad: Great, while you are at it, can you also install virtualenv? | 
| 16:35.03 | brlcad | ankesh11: already installed | 
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| 16:35.17 | brlcad | maths22: there's openjdk7 and 8 | 
| 16:35.23 | brlcad | is that what you need? | 
| 16:35.36 | brlcad | maths22: have you used freebsd ports before? | 
| 16:35.40 | maths22 | I have not | 
| 16:35.50 | maths22 | but that is what I need | 
| 16:35.53 | brlcad | cd /usr/ports and browse around ... it's the package management system for freebsd | 
| 16:36.13 | maths22 | I know that they are there, but how does that help me? | 
| 16:36.22 | maths22 | I don't think I can just install them to my homedir | 
| 16:36.26 | brlcad | you "should" be able to download and compile anything in there | 
| 16:36.31 | ankesh11 | Great! | 
| 16:37.26 | brlcad | no, they don't install into your home dir (though I think that might be configurable), but the point is to system-install them | 
| 16:37.46 | maths22 | I can't install them, though; i don't think I have the right permissions | 
| 16:37.46 | brlcad | if you think you can be careful, I'll set your bit so you can do installs | 
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| 16:38.52 | maths22 | I will be careful-at this point I will check before I do anything | 
| 16:39.03 | brlcad | maths22: done, just try to announce any installations here for the sanity of myself and the other admins | 
| 16:39.25 | brlcad | ports can be very unforgiving if you mess something up or override or ignore something it warned you about | 
| 16:40.17 | brlcad | the whole hierarchy is built for old-school devs -- it's a massive Makefile system | 
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| 16:41.01 | brlcad | you'll want to cd to the dir of interest and run "make" ... read the output, especially near the end and if everything looks good, run "make install" (after making any manual backups if you're not sure, and asking questions if messages are strange) | 
| 16:41.28 | brlcad | you can run "make search key=something" for a simple poor man's search | 
| 16:41.45 | brlcad | there are about 1000 other tips and tricks that you can search the web or ask about too ;) | 
| 16:41.52 | maths22 | Thanks | 
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| 16:55.25 | brlcad | maths22: I must say, our level of spam this past year has been pheneomenally low, awesome | 
| 16:55.42 | maths22 | That is nice | 
| 16:57.18 | brlcad | ``Erik: any reason all of /usr/ports is 755 instead of 775? | 
| 16:57.31 | brlcad | fixes | 
| 17:01.34 | brlcad | maths22: it's still in the middle of repairing the perms, so it'll be a little slow | 
| 17:01.39 | brlcad | that's a huge tree | 
| 17:02.18 | maths22 | Ok | 
| 17:02.22 | maths22 | hopefuly that will fix it | 
| 17:09.41 | brlcad | yikes, careful with rm -rf in the main web root! | 
| 17:10.31 | brlcad | sometimes good idea to move somewhere like the attic dir, and then remove there | 
| 17:10.43 | brlcad | ankesh11: apparently, you've had mysql set up for a LONG time | 
| 17:12.36 | maths22 | what did I do? | 
| 17:15.32 | brlcad | maths22: ah, my misread, you were in /usr/home/www, not /usr/web | 
| 17:16.03 | maths22 | yep | 
| 17:16.12 | brlcad | running rm -rf is always disconverting, but even doubly dangerous in /usr/web/*/ | 
| 17:16.27 | brlcad | especially via your new sudo powers ;) | 
| 17:16.34 | maths22 | I'm trying to svnsync the repo, and I wanted to clear out the first try | 
| 17:16.42 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> | 
| 17:17.14 | maths22 | There isn't already a synced copy on the server, is there? | 
| 17:18.53 | maths22 | actually, there is one in backup that is not too old-that will serve my purposes | 
| 17:20.01 | brlcad | maths22: yes, there is, the one your found | 
| 17:21.20 | ankesh11 | brlcad: Oh, wasn't aware of that. Where should I look for credentials? | 
| 17:22.39 | ``Erik | brlcad: (re ports 755/775) nope, artifact of umask | 
| 17:23.34 | brlcad | ``Erik: no worries, found out that's all been changed anyways .. can no longer run make as a peon without setting INSTALL_AS_USER | 
| 17:23.51 | brlcad | which I don't want to do .. I want to build as user, install as root | 
| 17:24.03 | brlcad | wonders if sudo make install will do the right thing | 
| 17:24.13 | ``Erik | I typically use portmaster for all that stuff | 
| 17:24.33 | ``Erik | "sudo portmaster catagory/port" | 
| 17:25.04 | brlcad | still navigate/build/install manually | 
| 17:25.11 | ``Erik | sudo make install SHOULD work fine, but you'll have to do the sudo make clean-recursive or something to clean up | 
| 17:25.18 | brlcad | portnewb | 
| 17:25.21 | ``Erik | clean-dependancies? something | 
| 17:25.36 | brlcad | i'm just wondering how that all plays with INSTALL_AS_USER | 
| 17:26.06 | brlcad | since that seems to put the files down in /usr/db/ports/USER/package or somesuch | 
| 17:26.11 | ``Erik | INSTALL_AS_USER is an extra for the new staging stuff | 
| 17:27.18 | ``Erik | fbsd ports now install to a staging directory to make sure it works, then moves it to the final destination... I'd, uh, avoid that stuff if you don't have a very specific reason... :) | 
| 17:30.58 | brlcad | oof, for an 8-core machine, it's REALLY slow right now | 
| 17:31.04 | brlcad | disk I/O is killing | 
| 17:31.10 | brlcad | hopefully not a dying drive | 
| 17:31.44 | maths22 | that is probably the combination of ports and fisheye | 
| 17:31.48 | maths22 | I will pause fisheye for now | 
| 17:32.21 | brlcad | and the recurseive permissions change (still running... ) | 
| 17:33.49 | maths22 | Oh. 3 disk intesive things probably makes things angry | 
| 17:38.38 | brlcad | nods | 
| 17:39.31 | ``Erik | user www seems to be running a bunch of svn processes, as well | 
| 17:40.23 | maths22 | those are fisheye (I hope...) | 
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| 17:42.10 | ``Erik | I thought fisheye was the big java process? | 
| 17:42.41 | ``Erik | these svn procs are being launched from httpd, not java | 
| 17:43.11 | maths22 | that is fisheye. | 
| 17:43.20 | maths22 | Let me see what httpd is doing to spawn svn | 
| 17:43.27 | maths22 | by that i mean the big java thing | 
| 17:48.55 | brlcad | maths22: when you run into kernel module issues like that, talk to ``Erik | 
| 17:49.08 | ankesh11 | How much background do we except the GCI students to have? | 
| 17:49.08 | brlcad | he's in the know on most advanced questions | 
| 17:49.19 | brlcad | ankesh11: minimal to none | 
| 17:49.41 | brlcad | we tell them the background we expect and that background should be min or at least very well-defined | 
| 17:49.49 | brlcad | see some of the existing tasks | 
| 17:49.58 | ankesh11 | Okay, defining coding tasks is tough then I suppose. | 
| 17:50.07 | maths22 | Thanks | 
| 17:50.07 | ankesh11 | Alright, looking into them now | 
| 17:50.31 | brlcad | not at all, we have had lots of coding tasks, and we say "basic familiarity with C" or whatever language is expected | 
| 17:50.56 | brlcad | some of the students are quite advanced | 
| 17:55.20 | ``Erik | hopefully we have a number of non-coding tasks as well... documentation, art resources, stuff like that. Even as document testers (please go through this documented procedure and take notes on anything confusing, that didn't work right, etc) | 
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| 18:56.35 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:starseeker * 63423 brlcad/branches/qtged/src/qbrlcad/QAccordianWidget.cxx: Add open/close images to accordian buttons to indicate their status and to let the user know they can be toggled. | 
| 19:04.06 | starseeker | indeed - for documentation verification it is actually best to have inexperienced users. | 
| 19:04.33 | starseeker | user interface testing too, for that matter, once we have an interface that doesn't make even experienced experts wince | 
| 19:07.28 | starseeker | if someone can figure out the comgeom importer, we can define lots of those PDF->ascii tasks. | 
| 19:07.56 | starseeker | I got as far as bringing in shapes, but something about the matrix stuff wasn't quite right (on my end, I think) | 
| 19:12.11 | starseeker | ah, right - doc/csv_to_comgeom.txt | 
| 19:12.38 | maths22 | starseeker: I can try to work on the comgeom stuff with you | 
| 19:12.51 | starseeker | maths22: it's fairly close | 
| 19:12.54 | maths22 | I made the trascript for gci last year | 
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| 19:14.00 | starseeker | maths22: if we can get all the way to the "final" model, we can actually define tasks that will allow for correctness checking | 
| 19:14.20 | starseeker | not to mention actually rewarding the students with cool visuals... | 
| 19:15.11 | starseeker | grumbles... should have checked in the transcripts | 
| 19:15.58 | starseeker | puts together a script - will want to have this "pre-packaged" for students anyway | 
| 19:16.41 | starseeker | maths22: did you develop a set of "best practices" when you were doing the transcript last year that might be helpful to students this year? | 
| 19:17.12 | maths22 | No-I just ran it through an OCR tool and hand-tweaked the results | 
| 19:17.15 | maths22 | Lots of busy work | 
| 19:17.25 | starseeker | nods | 
| 19:17.35 | starseeker | (thanks again for your dedication on that effort, bty) | 
| 19:17.48 | starseeker | which OCR tool? | 
| 19:18.06 | maths22 | I don't remember now-I think a trial of some pro one | 
| 19:18.33 | maths22 | http://www.abbyy.com/ | 
| 19:18.47 | maths22 | I tried with free ones first-and it was horribly awful | 
| 19:18.56 | starseeker | heh - tesseract et. al.? | 
| 19:19.05 | maths22 | Yep | 
| 19:19.12 | maths22 | They do not do well on tables | 
| 19:19.19 | starseeker | maths22: do you happen to have a link handy to your transcripts? | 
| 19:19.56 | maths22 | http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2013/5597236545191936 | 
| 19:20.11 | starseeker | awesome, thanks | 
| 19:33.04 | ``Erik | heh, rowing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDvMBPZ5Bik | 
| 19:33.19 | starseeker | maths22: humph. I wasn't as close as I though, looks like | 
| 19:36.59 | starseeker | maths22: we need to make it look like something the code in src/conv/comgeom-g can read | 
| 19:37.17 | brlcad | ``Erik: haha, how'd you come across that? | 
| 19:37.24 | ``Erik | cheezburger | 
| 19:37.45 | brlcad | it made the rounds yesterday in our rowing club | 
| 19:38.02 | brlcad | so many levels of epic fail and bad parents | 
| 19:38.05 | ``Erik | ah, cool :) seems like a whole lot of "what not to do" | 
| 19:38.51 | brlcad | like they literally threw some kids into boats and said "go row down the river together" | 
| 19:40.18 | brlcad | the sad thing is that we're at the end of the rowing season and they've probably been rowing at least one season | 
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| 19:42.40 | ``Erik | seems like something abnormal happened at the beginning and no one knew how to cope (inexperience?), but I'm sure I only saw a fraction of what was going on and going wrong, not being a rower :) | 
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| 19:45.25 | starseeker | shakes his head - probably have to reconstruct what a "valid" form of that file is according to comgeom-g and figure out a template from there | 
| 19:48.37 | Stragus | Ahah Erik, nice | 
| 20:03.52 | brlcad | hi Izakey, thanks for adding the curvature tasks | 
| 20:03.53 | brlcad | good ones | 
| 20:04.18 | Izakey | Thanks brlcad | 
| 20:04.40 | Izakey | I also added some Documentation tasks | 
| 20:08.03 | brlcad | excellent | 
| 20:08.58 | Izakey | is now scouring for some kids who can participate in the GCI '15 under BRL-CAD | 
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| 20:19.07 | brlcad | six hungry java procs | 
| 20:19.46 | Stragus | nominates the kids from ``Erik's video | 
| 20:21.04 | starseeker | growl | 
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| 20:42.17 | starseeker | maths22: I'm probably going to have to step through a debugger with this to figure it out - the program vdeck can produce examples from existing .g files if that's helpful, but I think it may be using a somewhat newer version of COMGEOM than the one you transcribed | 
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| 21:22.08 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 63427 brlcad/trunk/TODO: add a handful of tasks prompted by prioritization notes from 2007 that are still relevant today. document the features our interfaces need, integrate adrt, improved vol support, mesh and nurbs editing, overlap reporting, and image underlay. | 
| 21:22.42 | brlcad | woah, about time to do a filesystem audit .. less than 8% left on the main hard drive and it's a 500GB drive | 
| 21:45.59 | ``Erik | meh, /usr has 42G left, probably not that big of a concern just yet... | 
| 21:53.33 | maths22 | The space free has increased | 
| 21:53.49 | maths22 | Some of it is probably me cleaning my homedir, but not all of it | 
| 21:54.29 | ``Erik | I deleted some old cl-store files, that was uhhh, 2% O:-) | 
| 21:56.01 | ``Erik | looks like another 4% has disappeared | 
| 22:22.13 | maths22 | I installed the nano editor on BZ | 
| 22:59.31 | Notify | 03BRL-CAD:brlcad * 63428 (brlcad/trunk/src/conv/jack/g-jack.c brlcad/trunk/src/conv/jack/jack-g.c): got a reply from the jack technomatix guys, they say support for that format is still in there. | 
| 23:06.32 | brlcad | maths22: what? you're not an emacs pro by now? :) | 
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| 23:29.38 | deekay | brlcad: Hi | 
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| 23:59.27 | ``Erik | sudo ln -sf /bin/ed /usr/local/bin/nano | 
| 23:59.38 | ``Erik | O:-) |